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[2017-06-28 11:47:55] baboom : Just wanted to say thanks to @freaky123 for opening this up, and for others helping. Ramping up there, see if I can be of any help with respect to the FW /rooting aspect!

[2017-06-28 11:48:43] freaky123 : nice tnx :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-06-28 11:51:06] freaky123 : @baboom what are you currently already doing the with Mavic?

[2017-06-28 11:54:42] rulppa : he has root already :confused:

[2017-06-28 11:55:19] baboom : freaky123: having fun with sport mode, videos, 360 VR panos (I wonder if we could add that feature out of the box), and started to look at 3D mapping.

[2017-06-28 11:55:44] freaky123 : Cool!

[2017-06-28 11:56:22] baboom : you?

[2017-06-28 11:58:59] freaky123 : Currently trying to figure out how to talk to the esc's directly so that I can control my own PWM/RPM for a custom firmware

[2017-06-28 11:59:25] freaky123 : But having a lot of problems getting into the FC to figure out te correct commands there

[2017-06-28 12:00:48] baboom : hopefully you can avoid bricking your baby :grin:

[2017-06-28 12:08:21] freaky123 : I have until now..

[2017-06-28 12:08:26] freaky123 : did you brick yours?

[2017-06-28 12:09:16] baboom : No, I have yet to get started. I'll see if I get any success. Not sure if DJI Care will cover this :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-06-28 12:10:12] ender : Yes, good place. THANK YOU (bowing down).

[2017-06-28 12:10:55] ender : I’d like to have root to run crosscopiled binaries. Downlink of FLIR images…

[2017-06-28 12:11:13] freaky123 : depending on how you root it ^^

[2017-06-28 12:11:20] freaky123 : brick it *

[2017-06-28 12:21:41] freaky123 : that is a cool project

[2017-06-28 12:21:56] freaky123 : and could be possible

[2017-06-28 12:22:10] ender : working on bebop. PC GUI still sucks :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-06-28 12:22:32] freaky123 : yeah bebop is so easy, since they sort of support these kind of things

[2017-06-28 12:22:43] freaky123 : DJI works against it

[2017-06-28 12:23:25] ender : yes, they go through the motion of beeing law abiding but leave holes & possibilities as large as an aircraft carrier. But who am i telling that :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-06-29 23:56:18] darksimpson : @freaky123 Hi and thank you! I glad to join and to help with reversing. I'm not so social (facepalm), spent a week of free time to dig in my fresh Mavic internals. Now I see your GitHub repository and lol about that we've done almost same work )) I try write a some kind of convenient universal Java tool to manipulate firmware. Already implemented derive_key, ftp_decypher (with removal of padding and descrambling first 16 bytes) and now in progress of image verifier and extractor.

[2017-06-29 23:56:49] darksimpson : Also sorry for my bad english (I'm from Russia) :wink:

[2017-06-29 23:59:06] darksimpson : BTW question. I trying to find a way to connect to terminal (to enter derived debug activation key and switch on adb), but I found no references for this time. I think it can be on hardware UART, maybe...

[2017-06-30 00:02:44] darksimpson : I want to try to descramble kernel and ramdrive to get more hints maybe (with IAEK key as far I can see, so will try tomorrow to extract IAEK from bootarea.img and descramble normal.img). I want ask may be you already try it? If positive, and not found something interesting, please let me know, as in this case it will be better to focus on some other things may be...

[2017-06-30 00:07:51] darksimpson : Also I want to dig in flashing things with tools from Xiaomi Redmi 2A using LC ROM bootcode, but still in very early stage of this task. May be we can join efforts in this.

[2017-06-30 00:40:27] hostile : @darksimpson do you know where hardware UART pinout is on Mavic?

[2017-06-30 00:42:47] darksimpson : I suspect I know where its on RC. But need to test it.

[2017-06-30 00:54:40] darksimpson : When get to work I'll post some detailed internals photos of RC and will mark pins if somebody also want to try it.

[2017-06-30 01:28:09] hostile : thx

[2017-06-30 07:46:56] freaky123 : The IAEK isn't inside the bootarea and is really hard to get. Thus that way I shouldn't advice

[2017-06-30 07:47:47] freaky123 : Also in the encrypted parts of the kernel is nothing special

[2017-06-30 07:50:35] freaky123 : Flashing the LC isn't one of the options since they boot in a secure verified boof which mean you need to sign it using the PREK private key.

[2017-06-30 09:14:32] darksimpson : @freaky123 Do you mean sign it with PRAK? They use asymmetrical signing afaik?

[2017-06-30 09:17:40] darksimpson : Hmm, I found a part 'key' in bootarea.img, signed with PRAK (if I remember it right) and scrambled with RREK (also if I remember right), usual DJI image with only one chunk named 'IAEK'... It is not IAEK?

[2017-06-30 09:22:35] hdnes : Darksimpson maybe move to ~mavic_rooting

[2017-06-30 09:22:37] darksimpson : According secure boot, unfortunately I can't find any datasheets/code for this LC platform, so I don't know anything about how booting works. What can I see is that it similar to Redmi 2A, and on Redmi there is no secure booting. I can speculate that all secure thing lies in u-boot itself, need to disassemble thoroughly when get sufficient time for this. Or I am not right?

[2017-06-30 09:23:23] darksimpson : May be, I am new to this messenger and it's organization.

[2017-06-30 09:23:50] hdnes : Cool. Yeah. I think your conversation fits there best and will help consolidate

[2017-07-03 13:22:13] hostile : @darksimpson there is indeed gold in the u-boot... a silly error makes it semi worthless.

[2017-07-03 13:43:25] darksimpson : @hostile uh?

[2017-07-03 13:43:58] hostile : "I can speculate that all secure thing lies in u-boot itself, need to disassemble thoroughly when get sufficient time for this"

[2017-07-03 13:44:20] hostile : yes... there is indeed fun stuff in u-boot. But you can extract it (once you have root).

[2017-07-03 13:47:13] darksimpson : Unfortunately as @freaky123 found out, we can't simply change uboot as rom mask code in LC checks it for consistency also, so I've dropped my attempts on uboot for now.

[2017-07-03 13:48:31] freaky123 : There are scripts in my repo that can sign the u-boot image but you need the private key. There is also a script that can extract the public key from the uboot image

[2017-07-03 13:49:10] darksimpson : Yes, but unfortunately we do not have pk on hands (

[2017-07-03 13:51:38] darksimpson : I was hoped that chip security (secure boot) functionality is not used, but it is enabled so witnout chances.

[2017-07-03 15:03:07] hostile : hehe @darksimpson yeah... he found that out on MY Mavic =] I was the first brick

[2017-07-03 15:03:49] hostile : @the_lord just leveled up and bricked his P4

[2017-07-03 15:04:09] darksimpson : Ah ) Not wise. Recovered?

[2017-07-03 15:10:32] darksimpson : Btw I have some LC tools to recover from brick, but need to test it and possibly do slight modifications in configs.

[2017-07-03 15:12:00] hostile : nice we will first need pins on the LC? or can do via USB?

[2017-07-03 15:12:10] hostile : LOL we are counting bricks over with the Count! We up to 2 bricked Mavics and one P4 so far! <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AoxCkySv34> AH AH AH AH

[2017-07-03 15:12:28] the_lord : hahahaha

[2017-07-03 15:13:09] the_lord : weird thing is this P4 can reply ping but not responding to USB DUML

[2017-07-03 15:13:27] the_lord : i always forget chmod 755

[2017-07-03 15:18:37] darksimpson : Over USB. You can see that if you connect turned off device to pc, then turn on, a new unknown device appears for several seconds, then disappears completely. It is used to flash LC using factory tools (I have it). Windows only, btw.

[2017-07-03 15:22:40] darksimpson : Also it can be way to hard-downgrade device to needed fw.

[2017-07-03 15:27:43] darksimpson : And as we have u-boot sources, we can implement it fully opensource if someone will do that work. I think this tools use protocol like in Allwinner devices: read mem, write mem, execute. Then uploads specially crafted uboot (included in tools as binary). So we can sniff and reverse usb protocol and then modify uboot for our needs. Also I think like in Allwinner, any code can be executed instead of efuses and secure boot. So btw another universal root possibility. But I'm so lazy to all this work (at least alone). @hostile @freaky123 interested?

[2017-07-03 15:28:28] hostile : I'd certainly eyeball the protocol and the tool...

[2017-07-03 15:28:39] hostile : LC stuff was on my list, but their info is hard to obtain so I did not waste much time

[2017-07-03 15:31:05] darksimpson : Got this tools with fw for xuaomi redmi 2a from my phone serviceman friend. Also saw it once published on our russian 4pda forum. That's all. 2a is some limited model for chinese market only. And mavic hardware looks 1-1 like this 2a )

[2017-07-03 15:31:27] darksimpson : May be some employees goes from xiaomi to dji...

[2017-07-03 15:32:15] hostile : more likely that LeadCore gives all their customers similar tools. DJI probably has their own **branded** version.

[2017-07-03 15:32:27] hostile : but all same code for all customer using LC.

[2017-07-03 15:33:01] darksimpson : Oh, no brands. All the tool inside is full of LEADCORE and Chinese hyeroglyphs.

[2017-07-03 15:33:16] darksimpson : Not any 'xiaomi' ever.

[2017-07-03 15:34:10] freaky123 : Would be interesting to look at

[2017-07-03 15:34:20] darksimpson : Hardware design I mean the same. May be some derivative from reference LC design.

[2017-07-03 15:34:44] darksimpson : Np :wink: (learned this abbrev yeah)

[2017-07-03 15:35:04] freaky123 : Problem though with bricking your device is that you need this special iaek key partition in order to reflash again.. so first need to read before flashing

[2017-07-03 15:35:07] darksimpson : Need to get to my pc first

[2017-07-03 15:35:38] darksimpson : Yes, or not touch iaek part when bricking )

[2017-07-03 15:36:48] darksimpson : Anyway, anytime when want to fly we can load kernel thru usb from uploaded uboot thru tool ) Better than brick )

[2017-07-03 15:36:49] freaky123 : Yeah id you do that you're screwed and can't unbrick anymore

[2017-07-03 15:37:53] darksimpson : Even can make some portable usb hardware for this task, from raspi, for example.

[2017-07-03 15:38:44] ender : Only Mavic with HW dongle. ULTRA SECURE :wink:

[2017-07-03 15:39:04] darksimpson : Yeah )

[2017-07-03 15:41:00] darksimpson : Anyway, cant understand why they include iaek placeholder in bootarea, and, main questiob, why it is not filled with zeros (FFs) but with something looks like useful info), if it is unrelated at all.

[2017-07-03 15:58:54] freaky123 : That is because it is the iaek for the factory kernel

[2017-07-03 15:59:11] freaky123 : So prolly just still there in the code

[2017-07-03 16:00:37] darksimpson : Different iaek?

[2017-07-03 16:23:49] darksimpson : Mean for factory kernel. Oh, why so complicated.

[2017-07-03 16:32:28] hostile : to hide GPL / Apache license violations and protect their Intellectual Property...

[2017-07-03 17:07:02] darksimpson : So string their up from the yardarm, yo-ho-ho!

[2017-07-04 14:35:06] d51 : Sierra 10.12.5 with Assistant already installed, DONT REMOVE "Assistant2" FROM FINDER...IF YOU NEED TO CHANGE VERSION, JUST INSTALL "Assistant2" PAKCAGE AGAIN. I CANNOT INSTALL ASSISTANT2 ANYMORE AGAIN. NEED TO HARD WIPE MY OSX. SUX

[2017-07-04 14:36:03] d51 : it showing 'update' process . even if i wipe horndis manually, Assistant2 manually.

[2017-07-04 14:36:33] d51 : onyx, deeper does not helps anymore lol

[2017-07-08 06:56:45] hessamx : hi guyz is there any guide for users to disable nfz or height limited ?

[2017-07-08 06:59:24] hostile : we don't make "guides" here. you probably want to be in #websocket_work though. I suggest reading the source code... <https://github.com/fvantienen/dji_rev/blob/master/tools/websocket_tool.py>

[2017-07-08 07:03:49] hessamx : <https://github.com/droner69/MavicPro>

[2017-07-08 07:03:50] coldflake : You can also volunteer and test my app when it's ready for testing in like 12 hours from now. It's for windoze.

[2017-07-08 07:04:46] hessamx : sounds intresting ...

[2017-07-08 23:31:18] hotelzululima : can it run in a windows 8 vm?

[2017-07-09 00:02:36] coldflake : yep

[2017-07-09 16:51:51] peppo-online : What's the purpose of your app? :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-09 16:54:11] coldflake : To make anyone do the g_config values regardless of fw

[2017-07-09 16:54:36] coldflake : They are a little different from fw build to fw build

[2017-07-09 16:55:54] coldflake : I will get back to those of you who contacted me later today. I got a little delayed because of my kids, they are now off to their mom so now it's PARTY TIME! :)

[2017-07-10 08:38:27] ender : volunteering :wink:

[2017-07-10 12:19:57] vk2fro : I volunteer as well - although I can do it from dev parameters in DJI A, I'll give your app a go.

[2017-07-10 18:18:40] hotelzululima : volunteering

[2017-07-10 18:45:24] kilrah : +1 if wasn’t registered already :sweat_smile:

[2017-07-11 01:58:14] jjofthedrums : @coldflake volunteering!

[2017-07-11 18:39:06] dreadwing007 : @coldflake would like to volunteer as well.

[2017-07-11 19:05:14] solution : It also works with the Spark, then would like to volunteer

[2017-07-11 22:44:58] dragosr : Greets

[2017-07-11 22:58:47] dragosr : Has anyone found any jtag points on the Mavic?

[2017-07-11 22:59:48] dragosr : (Might be a way to unbrick)

[2017-07-11 23:03:11] hdnes : go over to ~hardware

[2017-07-11 23:03:32] hdnes : jtag research going on there

[2017-07-12 01:55:42] martinbogo : Yep .. I have found almost all the JTAG points

[2017-07-12 01:55:52] martinbogo : Still poling around for TRST

[2017-07-12 01:56:09] martinbogo : and no .. it won't help with bricking. The CPU is efused out from JTAG

[2017-07-13 01:09:03] rainman : Ditto on volunteering if I can get my Spark to activate in the DCSA NFZ. Tried all the way up to v22 without success. :disappointed:

[2017-07-13 01:11:06] rainman : .. And before ya'll think I'm anti-gubbment or something.. NO. It's my OWN freakin backyard 13 miles from Trump's house. :open_mouth:

[2017-07-13 01:12:15] hostile : hey I work for a counter drone company... so not judging here... we all have our own legit motives for being here, and if we choose to not be responsible humans when we know better, we are responsible for our own actions.

[2017-07-13 01:13:39] rainman : ty, bro. My lot has a dense but 90 foot tree canopy over all of it anyway, lol.

[2017-07-13 01:41:49] dpitman : Absolutely. Schulman, when asked directly multiple times by me and others, could not give an answer why dji feels it should insert itself between a certified operator (in my case) when not mandated by law. Crickets.

[2017-07-13 02:05:41] hostile : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd0fBXwDBmo>

[2017-07-13 02:10:11] dpitman : haha...exactly.

[2017-07-13 02:50:12] devi0us : Has anyone looked into where the NFZ exemption data is being stored (cloudwise, not locally)? Seems like that'd be kind of valuable to mainland china, as well as all the log imagery, even if it doesn't include primary imagery. (i'm probably late to the party on this one). I'd really like to get a view into what the live view drill downs are in the DJI OC in Shenzhen.

[2017-07-13 03:02:41] hostile : Airmap... and <https://github.com/MAVProxyUser/dji.nfzdb>

[2017-07-13 09:47:21] bin4ry : @devi0us there are many places, on the bird in the app and also it tries to get some info online if possible :wink:

[2017-07-13 09:47:47] bin4ry : @rainman ok, good you are here another one to test for me :smile:

[2017-07-13 09:48:28] bin4ry : @rainman PLEASE make sure you have removed ALL dji folders before you try. So: remove the APK

[2017-07-13 09:48:30] bin4ry : then delete: /sdcard/dji

[2017-07-13 09:48:42] bin4ry : then delete /sdcard/android/data/dji.go.v4

[2017-07-13 09:48:53] bin4ry : also, which firmware on the spark?

[2017-07-13 09:49:16] bin4ry : please come to ~android_apk_patching to discuss this, so i can keep track of it properly :smile:

[2017-07-13 11:41:00] devi0us : @bin4ry I mean when you apply for an exemption the traditional manner through DJI, where DJI s storing and indexing the list of exemptions, and if those then get flagged as more interesting for debug data.

[2017-07-13 11:42:57] bin4ry : there is the whitelist, it gets generated in the apk. what they do is, they go online, submit your serial number, token etc. and store it to a whitelist/unlock list. have not looked further into this because i chose to do another way do it, better not seeing the NFZ in first place than asking for unlock.

[2017-07-13 11:43:34] bin4ry : flycontroller serialnumber that is btw

[2017-07-13 11:44:02] devi0us : yup.. i agree.. that's the better methodology. I just wonder what protections are around the server side data of who asked for what exemption, and then if there's more diligence about pulling blackbox data for flights in exempted zones

[2017-07-13 11:44:30] bin4ry : take a look into the apk, it is all ther

[2017-07-13 11:44:41] bin4ry : atleast the client part, you can understand much of this already

[2017-07-13 11:44:43] bin4ry : ;D

[2017-07-13 11:44:48] devi0us : I'm not talking drone sie.. i'm talking server side

[2017-07-13 11:45:14] bin4ry : yeah

[2017-07-13 11:45:32] bin4ry : you can mess with the unlock scripts on the server

[2017-07-13 11:45:33] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-13 11:45:50] devi0us : i haven't had time to pull apart the client side yet to see what it touches, and then see what's up with the server sida data protection..

[2017-07-13 11:47:03] devi0us : i'm not looking at it from the perspective of doing further unlocks.. more that you should be able to run a report on "which 107 pilots requested unlocks around the White House?" Pull down all flight data for flights in that unlock zone and poll for anamolies and cached imagery.

[2017-07-13 11:47:47] devi0us : I just want to find the front end.. eyeball it quick with showdan to see if its susceptible to the standard query overruns, etc

[2017-07-13 11:47:51] bin4ry : well, they don't need that, they are transferring your telemetry to their servers anyway

[2017-07-13 11:48:00] devi0us : that's what i mean

[2017-07-13 11:48:24] devi0us : i want to see the content and volume of that telementry, and how they're data mining it

[2017-07-13 11:48:38] bin4ry : thats the http and https addresses that are inside the apk

[2017-07-13 11:48:43] bin4ry : in the java code

[2017-07-13 11:48:49] bin4ry : there is more in precompiled SO files

[2017-07-13 11:48:52] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-07-13 11:49:29] devi0us : yeah.. i'm sure more and more is going to be compiled stripped code rather than java in the future

[2017-07-13 11:50:19] bin4ry : here this is the stuff happeing in libSDKRelativeJNI.so

[2017-07-13 11:50:20] devi0us : also wonder if it's possible to fuzz the server side with irrelevant data

[2017-07-13 11:50:21] bin4ry : <http://flysafe.aasky.net/api/v3/geofence/sdk_static_data> <https://flysafe-api.dji.com/api/v3/geofence/sdk_static_data> <https://flysafe-api.dji.com/api/v1/geo_fence/list_unlimited_areas> <https://flysafe-api.dji.com/api/release_limitarea.json/?updated_at=> <https://flysafe-api.dji.com/api/v1/geo_fence/fetch_corrections?updated_at=> <https://flysafe-api.dji.com/api/mobile_unlock_areas/>? <https://flysafe-api.dji.com/api/v1/geo_fence/noflyzone_params/>? <https://flysafe-api.dji.com/api/v1/geo_fence/get_geo_file> <https://flysafe-api.dji.com/api/unlimit_license_list> <https://dev.dji.com/sdk>? <https://upgrade.bgcentre.com/links/links/pilot_v2> <http://upgrade.dj2006.net/redirect/links/GO_Test> <http://upgrade.dj2006.net/redirect/links/GO_Debug> <https://upgrade.bgcentre.com/getdayv3> <http://upgrade.dj2006.net/redirect/links/pilot_br> <http://upgrade.dj2006.net/redirect/links/pliot_br_DEBUG> <https://app-service.skypixel.com/api/invalid_sn_list> <https://analytics.mobile.stage.dji-usrd.com/api/v1/> <https://analytics.mobile.dev.dji-usrd.com/api/v1/> <https://api.dji-services.com/api/v1/>

[2017-07-13 11:50:31] devi0us : start mapping satellite flights and whatnot

[2017-07-13 11:50:47] bin4ry : the flysafe stuff is what you look for most problaly

[2017-07-13 11:50:48] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-13 11:52:23] bin4ry : in the so they force the db update from the online server if the version is older f.e. also they try to grab the unlock list reference from the java code ofc

[2017-07-13 11:52:42] bin4ry : but we were busy in removing this stuff rather than looking to understand what they collect exactly

[2017-07-13 11:52:43] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-13 13:30:29] hostile : In an SQLiteDB on the the drone...

[2017-07-13 13:31:02] hostile : You **could** in theory fly sans the app with a modded db bird side...

[2017-07-13 13:32:11] hostile : not **legally**....

[2017-07-13 13:45:30] fldatatek : Might just be easier to spoof their NFZ unlock system..

[2017-07-13 13:49:34] bin4ry : i am in the code of the NFZRedAlert right now

[2017-07-13 13:49:47] bin4ry : i try to make it think red is yellow

[2017-07-13 13:49:54] fldatatek : lol

[2017-07-13 13:49:54] bin4ry : would be best imho

[2017-07-13 13:49:56] fldatatek : nice

[2017-07-13 13:50:00] bin4ry : so users get warning

[2017-07-13 13:50:00] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-07-13 13:50:01] fldatatek : very true

[2017-07-13 13:50:07] fldatatek : good idea

[2017-07-13 13:50:16] bin4ry : or if i cannot

[2017-07-13 13:50:26] bin4ry : i will try to force CAN_UNLOCK to the acc

[2017-07-13 14:22:13] triangular : I like that idea very much. It is best to still be warned when you are in a NFZ, just not lock you out arbitrarily. Doing it this way is safer for everyone to be aware of the environment, and does not make it easy for media to say our efforts are reckless and dangerous.

[2017-07-13 14:39:34] hostile : all we need is ONE user with a legit unlock to dump their disk images for us with the tools we provided.

[2017-07-14 00:29:00] fldatatek : Hummm.... I may be able to make that happen.. We have 107 pilots so we can get DJI to unlock airspace for us.

[2017-07-14 17:33:01] jcarlo : Yeah I think NFZ warning is good

[2017-07-14 19:04:54] guest : ** n00d alert! @the_lord @hdnes trying to understand the pyduml. it should be executed like ./pyduml <usb-port> am I correct?

[2017-07-14 19:05:36] guest : hmmm posted in wrong channel...

[2017-07-14 19:23:12] the_lord : correct

[2017-07-14 19:26:22] guest : tnx

[2017-07-16 14:16:10] dpitman : take a break <https://youtu.be/XaTApDuYX4o>

[2017-07-16 14:26:30] vk2fro : LOL

[2017-07-16 14:26:40] hostile : that is funny as fuck

[2017-07-16 14:26:48] vk2fro : Agreed :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-16 14:29:36] kilrah : Hahaha :laughing:

[2017-07-16 14:29:47] kilrah : Only 2040? They're improving

[2017-07-16 15:55:52] vk2fro : I'll have to buy the hmmm fly heaps more one if I want to actually charge it :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-16 15:56:21] vk2fro : or pin out the batteries and use my imax B6 :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-16 20:32:13] uavop : Guys I'm after the Wikipedia link for the DJI log file header explanations .. any ideas? I'm sure it was posted in here :+1:

[2017-07-16 21:56:09] digital1 : Danny Boi

[2017-07-17 16:20:42] guest : funny as hell... (i think)

[2017-07-17 16:20:46] guest : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg73GKm7GgI>

[2017-07-17 16:35:27] hotelzululima : laughed till I cried!!!

[2017-07-17 16:47:22] martinbogo : That story is from "Sled Driver" ( a rather expensive, but awesome book -- I have a copy )

[2017-07-17 18:50:37] avg.bob : sled driver is so good

[2017-07-17 20:18:46] rainman : Ya think my AC just needs a f/w "cleaning"??

[2017-07-17 20:21:41] kilrah : re-read what you were given

[2017-07-17 20:21:54] rainman : Crap.. just noticed g_config_airport_limit_cfg_cfg_r1 is 6000. Is that it??

[2017-07-17 20:22:16] rainman : I thought I did..

[2017-07-17 20:22:30] kilrah : you were given 2 things to change, is it that hard? :wink:

[2017-07-17 20:23:09] rainman : No.. but I did.. lemme check again. Maybe I'm going blind

[2017-07-17 20:24:39] rainman : SHIT. Ok, i AM going blind. 2 fuck.

[2017-07-17 20:26:23] rainman : Well.. I AM getting cataracts. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Cheeze us Crispy. ... sorry

[2017-07-17 20:28:07] rainman : ... also blaming it on my ASUS 10" tablet PC.

[2017-07-17 20:29:34] kilrah : lol

[2017-07-17 20:54:40] rainman : It's pronounced "Doom Ahhs". I am a happy param camper now. Will be able to walk out into my backyard in my shorts :scream: and tweak my Spark, now. Sorry to be a dork @bin4ry @kilrah. Onward & <ahem> upward.

[2017-07-17 22:45:10] gcbrent : ahhh the good ol iris

[2017-07-17 22:45:14] gcbrent : sold mine last year

[2017-07-17 22:45:28] gcbrent : they were so good to the dev's

[2017-07-17 22:45:41] gcbrent : break something and they fedex'd the parts for free

[2017-07-17 22:48:06] hotelzululima : mines in the backroom in its pelican box(HUGE)

[2017-07-17 22:51:01] rainman : @the_lord .. ty. I finally got my eyes to focus and saw it. Changing my name to Ima Dumbass (it's pronounced .. well, you know.)

[2017-07-18 02:38:54] martinbogo : @hotelzululima : I powered up the blackbird this afternoon ... it still works. Needs new batteries.

[2017-07-18 02:39:33] martinbogo : @hotelzululima : If I can find the @$%@#^ solo controller ( which is buried in a box somewhere ) I can flash the controller and get the blackbird prototype up and running for documentation

[2017-07-18 02:39:43] martinbogo : That thing would have changed the game for 3DR, I swear.

[2017-07-18 02:46:06] hotelzululima : not if we talking about running on APM.. that code was pitiful with race conditions and other bugs.. shit just dropping out of the sky…

[2017-07-18 02:48:14] hotelzululima : I performed a formal SQA for a municipal entity in oakland to see if these could be safely employed even with LEO indemnification..stuff was way too unstable.. DJI was making the grade before all the GEO/NFZ crap tried to remove the legal obligation of a pilot in command to always be in control of their craft.. not depts are dropping the DJI crap like flys

[2017-07-18 02:48:36] hotelzululima : s/not/now/g

[2017-07-18 02:50:02] hotelzululima : not to mention the dev crew was toxic and opposed to formalized SDLC compliant SQA.. instead agile was used and safety critical bugs simply covered over…

[2017-07-18 02:50:40] hotelzululima : I was NOT impressed at all by ANYONE at 3DR and joined @hostile s side soon after

[2017-07-18 02:51:41] hotelzululima : wrong CEO, wrong company wrong devs shitty code…

[2017-07-18 02:53:56] hotelzululima : personally I wish the 3dr dream had been real… I was VERY disappointed to find out it was not

[2017-07-18 02:53:59] hostile : lol @martinbogo didn't you work with the Ardu team? :wink:

[2017-07-18 02:57:24] hotelzululima : and I am sure he has a much more positive view of things… i was simply disappointed that so little progress had been made since paparazzi designs were forked?

[2017-07-18 03:00:31] hotelzululima : as you know at the time I really wanted equipment COTS that I could pull in and customize for my local customers I was even more disappointed to see OpenPilot fold as that code was actually under a FORMAL SDLC and I still fly release 15? on my CC3D Hero…

[2017-07-18 03:01:43] hotelzululima : heh heh when the Solo WITH gimbal hits 150.00 :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-18 03:37:52] martinbogo : @hostile : Yep... and then shifted to working on ARM code pretty quickly ( once the STM32 came out )

[2017-07-18 03:38:12] martinbogo : First I helped port ArduPilot, then we rewrote things in new bases

[2017-07-18 09:50:30] freaky123 : Aha you worked in ardupilot.. are you still working on that @martinbogo

[2017-07-18 13:51:09] martinbogo : No... moved on. Arduino Isn't The Way(tm)

[2017-07-18 13:51:29] martinbogo : It's a cute microcontroller and all .. and being able to make Ardupilot work AT ALL was a bit of a miracle.

[2017-07-18 13:51:39] martinbogo : But ARM and RTOS is the way forward

[2017-07-19 06:43:31] nvar : Hello

[2017-07-19 06:45:12] nvar : After height limit removal, is it safe to fly at 1000 alttitude ?? I hear some about autolanding problem

[2017-07-19 06:47:01] hans112 : No no.. don't fly the high

[2017-07-19 06:47:15] hans112 : The = that

[2017-07-19 06:47:30] hans112 : :)

[2017-07-19 08:34:03] ender : feet = yes, meters = no, km = report to NASA

[2017-07-19 08:41:34] gcbrent : awww ender you ruin all my fun

[2017-07-19 08:49:39] kilrah : :joy:

[2017-07-19 09:00:33] ender : DOnt want to seem like we all got a stick up our derrieres :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-19 09:10:20] hans112 : :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[2017-07-19 12:17:32] nvar : But the mountain I want to fly near by is already 1000+ high

[2017-07-19 12:18:03] cs2000 : Then fly there

[2017-07-19 12:18:21] nvar : What about the auto landing problem

[2017-07-19 12:18:40] cs2000 : Wel all know the rules/regulations of our countries, for me, even leaving visible line of sight is illegal, its the operators choice if he breaks these

[2017-07-19 12:18:51] nvar : I live in iraq

[2017-07-19 12:18:53] nvar : Hahahha

[2017-07-19 12:18:55] cs2000 : When testing, mine ayto landed at 2000metres

[2017-07-19 12:18:58] nvar : 1 airplane per day

[2017-07-19 12:18:59] cs2000 : auto*

[2017-07-19 12:19:01] nvar : LOL

[2017-07-19 12:19:18] nvar : Did it land safely?

[2017-07-19 12:20:25] cs2000 : Yes, the auto land feature waaaaay over compensated. When it did eventually land, i still had 30% battery left, but remember its a forced land as it detected it would only have enough battery to RTH, so i couldn't cancel it, but you do have control over positioning

[2017-07-19 12:21:05] cs2000 : there are ways around this, but for 99% of people and uses, the potential of loosing the bird just isnt worth it

[2017-07-19 12:22:15] cs2000 : flying at 1000m isnt safe, it may be illegal, you cant see the bird, or your surroundings, but if you wanted to, it is possible to 1, get that high and 2, fly around for a very short while at that altitude before you need to think about getting home.

[2017-07-19 12:22:52] nvar : Yeah right. Its not worth it

[2017-07-19 12:23:15] nvar : Is there any nfz removal for the lastest version p4p?

[2017-07-19 12:24:20] cs2000 : thats your call :slightly_smiling_face:. As i say, io tested the height at 2000m in a known clear air space (using flight radar 24 to check for planes) purely as a verification that the height bypass worked and also to try and see if there was a bug in the app once at those heights, but i wont do it again, i dont want to risk a 1,000gbp drone!

[2017-07-19 12:24:44] cs2000 : Im not 100% on that, probably somewhere, but we tend to have been focussed on the mavic, and to a lesser extent the spark

[2017-07-19 12:25:07] nvar : Why is that?

[2017-07-19 12:25:24] nvar : P4p is way more greater than mavic

[2017-07-19 12:26:22] cs2000 : Its just how this all kicked off. The original Copter safe hacks were for Mavic, and people wanted that without paying $600. so it began from there. The Mavic and Spark are very similar hardware wise and so exploits for the mavic tend to work on the spark and so on.

[2017-07-19 12:27:29] aciid : I was a few meters away from the landing location. In 1.5 meters. RTH triggered due low, mavic decided to go into 50meters , move 2meters and land. Sometimes it feels that the added sensors and stereo-cameras are just a marketing gimmick

[2017-07-19 12:28:15] cs2000 : weird, inside of 5m radius from the home point, its supposed to just land...

[2017-07-19 12:28:41] nvar : I mean whats still left to unlock? Rather than sport+ ? What is left to be explored yet?

[2017-07-19 12:29:10] aciid : well, a dozen of GPIO pins that be hooked into added functionality.

[2017-07-19 12:29:33] nvar : Can you explain GPIO?

[2017-07-19 12:30:01] aciid : well imagine your mavic with a microcontroller breadboard. thats exactly what can be done now that the filesystem is wide open

[2017-07-19 12:30:24] cs2000 : Its true, we have got more height, more speed, no NFZ's, offline app functionality, firmware upgrade and downgrade without Assistant App, Rooting.... The community i think now is looking at custom firmwares, i think thats all there is left to play with

[2017-07-19 12:30:58] aciid : you can add stuff as you go, like well doppler radars and shit

[2017-07-19 12:31:07] nvar : %99 of my city is NFZ

[2017-07-19 12:31:18] nvar : and %80 of my country

[2017-07-19 12:31:24] cs2000 : fun....

[2017-07-19 12:31:34] cs2000 : Tell me, does the Phantom 4 use Assistant 2 app?

[2017-07-19 12:31:45] nvar : For which purpose?

[2017-07-19 12:31:57] cs2000 : for anything, firmware upgrades etc?

[2017-07-19 12:32:01] nvar : Yes

[2017-07-19 12:32:06] nvar : I enabled the debugger

[2017-07-19 12:32:11] nvar : Theres a panel

[2017-07-19 12:32:17] nvar : Called factory test

[2017-07-19 12:32:29] nvar : Tried it to factory reset from there

[2017-07-19 12:32:39] kilrah : P4/P4P are same as mavic/spark.

[2017-07-19 12:32:39] nvar : After all pf tje process it says failed

[2017-07-19 12:32:44] cs2000 : OK, then assuming you can get it to an exploitable firmware, you can disable the NFZ's. Getting a copy of firmware thats exploitable would be the issue i guess. I dont have any of them

[2017-07-19 12:33:01] cs2000 : As in, with the mavics, you need fw version .400 > .700

[2017-07-19 12:33:04] kilrah : latest P4P version has nfz disable parameter removed, like mavic

[2017-07-19 12:33:16] nvar : Disabled?

[2017-07-19 12:33:18] kilrah : need one version before

[2017-07-19 12:33:24] nvar : I cant take off

[2017-07-19 12:33:32] cs2000 : @kilrah do you know the version number?

[2017-07-19 12:33:32] nvar : I have it .bin

[2017-07-19 12:33:34] nvar : File

[2017-07-19 12:33:39] aciid : @nvar I think you can go into parameters and disable nfz from there if you have enabled debug .

[2017-07-19 12:33:50] kilrah : yes the last good firmware is the one P4P firmware that's in the repo, which I supplied

[2017-07-19 12:33:51] nvar : But in the latest version

[2017-07-19 12:33:57] aciid : theres a dozen "airport" eg parameters

[2017-07-19 12:33:58] nvar : It does not exist

[2017-07-19 12:34:05] cs2000 : Hmm OK, then...2 secs

[2017-07-19 12:34:16] nvar : K

[2017-07-19 12:34:36] kilrah : V01.03.0509

[2017-07-19 12:34:37] cs2000 : @kilrah V01.03.0509_P4P_dji_system.bin ?

[2017-07-19 12:34:56] cs2000 : lol same time. OK then nvar its possible, probably....

[2017-07-19 12:35:28] cs2000 : As the devices are so similar, id suspect that you could use Jezzab's tool.

[2017-07-19 12:35:39] cs2000 : <https://github.com/jezzab/DUMLdore> (this is public now)

[2017-07-19 12:36:22] nvar : What is jezzab

[2017-07-19 12:36:23] cs2000 : Download that tool, grab this firmware <https://github.com/MAVProxyUser/dji_system.bin/blob/master/V01.03.0509_P4P_dji_system.bin> Connect the Aircraft up and press load firmware

[2017-07-19 12:36:37] cs2000 : Jezzab is a user in this slack

[2017-07-19 12:37:04] nvar : Does it work?

[2017-07-19 12:37:12] cs2000 : Then you can use the developer mode in assistant 2 to disable the NFZ stuff.

[2017-07-19 12:37:49] nvar : Old version you mean

[2017-07-19 12:37:50] nvar : Nice

[2017-07-19 12:37:56] cs2000 : Yeah, its been tested for a few days by members of this place, BUT again only on Sparks and Mavics. GIve it a try, at worst it will just fail to detect the craft

[2017-07-19 12:38:12] cs2000 : yeah sorry i meant the special version of assistant 2

[2017-07-19 12:38:26] nvar : You mean the beta 112?

[2017-07-19 12:38:30] cs2000 : correct

[2017-07-19 12:38:35] nvar : It does not recognise my p4p

[2017-07-19 12:38:38] nvar : Idk what toso

[2017-07-19 12:38:41] nvar : Todo

[2017-07-19 12:39:42] cs2000 : OK, well now we know. Like i said, as the crafts (P4, Mavic, Spark) are so similar, maybe send Jezzab a message asking him, you two could work together, you getting him the info he needs, to add P4 functionality into the app :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-19 12:40:07] nvar : What about thw jezzab thingy?

[2017-07-19 12:40:10] jezzab : Works fine on P4 and p4p

[2017-07-19 12:40:17] jezzab : I have a P4

[2017-07-19 12:40:24] cs2000 : ahh welcome lol

[2017-07-19 12:40:40] nvar : Thank you jezzabb

[2017-07-19 12:40:41] jezzab : Been tested on a couple of p4ps u just can't do the remote

[2017-07-19 12:40:46] jezzab : Nothing can atm

[2017-07-19 12:40:53] nvar : For the remote

[2017-07-19 12:41:03] nvar : Reseting will turnit back to 0.3000

[2017-07-19 12:41:07] nvar : So its okay

[2017-07-19 12:41:08] jezzab : Download the entire zip and read the readme

[2017-07-19 12:41:59] jezzab : The readme is on the front page of the git too

[2017-07-19 12:42:15] cs2000 : FWIW, works for me amazingly on the Mavic :thumbsup:

[2017-07-19 12:49:56] nvar : What if I reset the rc to factory

[2017-07-19 12:50:15] nvar : Will it go back to 0.300

[2017-07-19 12:50:20] nvar : Last time I did it

[2017-07-19 12:50:22] ender : nope

[2017-07-19 12:50:26] nvar : It went back to it

[2017-07-19 12:50:31] ender : huh

[2017-07-19 12:50:38] ender : resetting does not change FW version

[2017-07-19 12:50:48] nvar : Factory settings

[2017-07-19 12:50:51] nvar : *

[2017-07-19 12:51:04] nvar : The factory is 0.300

[2017-07-19 12:51:16] ender : yes. I mean of course a “default fw revert” would be possible only its hard to believe.

[2017-07-19 12:52:14] nvar : The flashing does not work on rc's?

[2017-07-19 12:52:17] nvar : Right?

[2017-07-19 12:52:33] nvar : P4p

[2017-07-19 12:52:57] jezzab : No

[2017-07-19 12:53:13] jezzab : That's why there is no bin files in the repo

[2017-07-19 12:53:27] jezzab : Different kettle of fish

[2017-07-19 12:53:35] cs2000 : works on the AC though

[2017-07-19 12:53:36] jezzab : For the RC

[2017-07-19 12:53:40] jezzab : Yup

[2017-07-19 12:53:57] nvar : But i can remove nfz with the aircraft right?

[2017-07-19 12:54:07] nvar : After downgrade

[2017-07-19 12:54:32] cs2000 : Yes, get the AC onto a vulnerable FW version, then modify the NFZ parameters in assistant 2 (beta 112)

[2017-07-19 12:54:41] cs2000 : which there are guides for around here somewhere

[2017-07-19 12:54:47] nvar : I know that

[2017-07-19 12:54:52] nvar : But in the dji go

[2017-07-19 12:54:58] nvar : It will still show nfz right?

[2017-07-19 12:55:05] nvar : But will fly

[2017-07-19 12:56:22] cs2000 : Yes, the controller will still complain its a NFZ, but the AC wont care

[2017-07-19 12:57:19] nvar : It rebooted

[2017-07-19 12:57:25] nvar : Can I check the ver now?

[2017-07-19 12:57:28] nvar : Ac

[2017-07-19 12:57:56] cs2000 : If youve flashed the downgraded firmware, yeah i guess so. Remember i dont have a P4 :wink:

[2017-07-19 12:59:15] jezzab : Yes

[2017-07-19 13:05:16] hostile : fwiw @nvar no one here really cares about NFZ... and we have removed NFZ bypass from our .apk work.... so if you are super concerned with that.... you best seek out Danny Gypsy, as this is really not the place to have NFZ concerns @here <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4ue_o0Uah9mvydD9viByQ/videos>

[2017-07-19 13:05:42] hostile : and from your posts yesterday and today... this seems all you are concerned with. I may suggest there are better places to be

[2017-07-19 13:05:50] hostile : that suit your crowd...

[2017-07-19 13:05:58] hostile : just to be clear

[2017-07-19 13:07:19] fldatatek : I do.. But that is because we operate in those NFZ areas with the FAA's blessing, this just keeps me from having to ask uncle DJI for permission also. :slightly_smiling_face: But the A2 perimeter unlock is enough for me.

[2017-07-19 13:14:21] aciid : @hostile cut the guy some slack, @nvar lives in iraq afterall and could get into real trouble if ATC spots his drone. since 99% of his premises is nfz

[2017-07-19 13:14:43] hostile : I did cut him some slack...

[2017-07-19 13:14:51] hostile : don't come in here begging for NFZ bypasses... come in here to learn

[2017-07-19 13:14:57] hostile : I ALMOST insta banned him yesterday

[2017-07-19 13:15:02] aciid : i read that he is intesrted in it not begging for it

[2017-07-19 13:15:27] hostile : there is a different in wanting to understand how the system works and simply trying to bypass the NFZ...

[2017-07-19 13:16:07] aciid : I get your point, also I watched your keynote, I think you might be interested in submitting your talk to <http://www.gcsp.ch/> if you ever fancy travelling EU

[2017-07-19 13:16:27] hostile : and I don't think I need to explain the political sensitivity of helping someone from Iraq...

[2017-07-19 13:16:48] aciid : yes I think this reflects on what we were on abouts yesterday

[2017-07-19 13:17:41] hostile : @nvar let me be VERY clear here... I am going to let you stick around, but I need for you to take a different approach to your learning style.

[2017-07-19 13:18:16] nvar : Look hostile

[2017-07-19 13:18:24] nvar : The ISIS is over

[2017-07-19 13:18:27] nvar : And I am a kurdish

[2017-07-19 13:18:40] nvar : We are far away from the problems

[2017-07-19 13:19:26] hostile : as a brown man I **hate** saying this... BUT there is of course sensitivity to the middle east... **knowing** that you are from Iraq... I've got to take extra sensitivity. I can see you are at an American University based on the email you provided, so I am going to not make assumptions and be **racist** as it were, as an American black man I've been subject to THAT all my life.

[2017-07-19 13:19:35] hostile : but please... this place intentionally has a non NFZ focus.

[2017-07-19 13:19:51] hostile : there is PLENTY of public info on which firmware versions allow paramater changes...

[2017-07-19 13:19:57] hostile : PLENTY of info on how to use Assistant, etc...

[2017-07-19 13:20:07] nvar : I fixed it done.

[2017-07-19 13:20:13] nvar : Thank you for this

[2017-07-19 13:20:15] hostile : so just absorb what you need... but really... don't focus on NFZ so much here.

[2017-07-19 13:20:17] hostile : **salute**

[2017-07-19 13:20:33] hostile : and sorry for any offense... that was not my intent... but this is of course a very touchy subject as it is.

[2017-07-19 13:20:42] nvar : I know you're right

[2017-07-19 13:20:55] nvar : I have licence here

[2017-07-19 13:21:02] aciid : I think you are enough well spoken to be respected on even though it's a touchy subject

[2017-07-19 13:21:24] hostile : cool... to this is the last I will speak of it... welcome and enjoy your stay

[2017-07-19 13:22:14] nvar : Thank you hostile. And thank you aciid

[2017-07-19 13:24:50] triangular : Interesting conversation in here I just followed.

[2017-07-19 13:29:26] triangular : I've been in Iraq. I understand the situation with the Kurdish area. But really, I personally feel that anyone near a war zone looking to bypass nfz shouldn't receive help for that in here. Because once it gets out in those places, it'll be out to everyone in those areas. It's not about being a kurd or a student or a journalist or even a fighting rebel, but it's about proliferation in the wrong places.

[2017-07-19 13:31:25] hostile : nailed it... and if I see any over tones or hints of that... unfortunately I need to cut it off at the bud.

[2017-07-19 13:31:42] hostile : I'd hate to have to geofence slack :wink:

[2017-07-19 13:32:21] hostile : they can go pay CopterSafe or talk to Danny... this isn't why we are here, regardless of information being "free" as it were

[2017-07-19 13:37:03] ender : posibly the bad guys would FIRST try to cover their location THEN ask but of course thats just an assumption.

[2017-07-19 13:48:03] hans112 : Maybe we should start a political channel ?

[2017-07-19 13:48:20] hans112 : So that this and that do not mix ?

[2017-07-19 13:48:58] cs2000 : or just drop it for now, whats needed to been said has been said IMO

[2017-07-19 13:50:32] triangular : It was just a stray topic of the moment

[2017-07-19 13:51:44] hostile : @triangular "But proliferation itself is truly the problem. " yes... I have covered this here for anyone curious. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s63QPLTKPSY>

[2017-07-19 13:51:53] triangular : Actually the topic was about proliferation of nfz bypass tools, and yeah I think that is very relevant discussion.

[2017-07-19 13:52:33] hostile : "or just drop it for now, whats needed to been said has been said IMO" I think ~random is a good place for it... and glad we are all loosely on the same page in understandign that the world sucks

[2017-07-19 13:52:40] hostile : I am a misanthropist... so nothing new here

[2017-07-19 13:53:40] ender : <---- likes girl with baseball club better :tongue:

[2017-07-19 13:56:35] cs2000 : I think its fairly obvious that as a community, we like to push the boundaries, thats why were all here right? We played and tinkered to get around the NFZ restrictions because it was a challenge. Now that challenge was bypassed its trivial for anyone to do, we have moved away from it because were now all thinking "yeah, but what if MY work in the hands of some 3rd party actually has some tragic consequences" and have therefore stepped away from NFZ mods. Its not a challenge anymore, nor is it important, or something that we as a group want to be held responsible for.

[2017-07-19 13:59:23] hostile : FWIW... i've had these thoughts for 20 years of my career... Full Disclosure, vs. Partial Discosure, vs. Non disclsoure are HUGE topics...

[2017-07-19 13:59:44] hostile : <https://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/08/scada_exploit_released/>

[2017-07-19 13:59:44] hostile : I was the first to release SCADA exploits...

[2017-07-19 13:59:53] hostile : I've heard the "people will die" arguement many times before

[2017-07-19 14:00:14] hostile : I've also participated in the vulnerability market well before it was a **thing**. <http://www.econinfosec.org/archive/weis2007/papers/29.pdf>

[2017-07-19 14:00:20] bin4ry : i don't think prevention techniques are the right way, the right way is to punish people with the law

[2017-07-19 14:00:21] hostile : "weaponized" info is ALWAYS a hot topic...

[2017-07-19 14:01:10] bin4ry : i can go an buy a knife and throw it in anyones head, should knifes be forbidden ?

[2017-07-19 14:01:14] hostile : The flip side of the pdf above.. is my former business partner went throught **THIS** <https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gv5knx/italian-cops-raid-surveillance-tech-company-area-spa-selling-spy-gear-to-syria>

[2017-07-19 14:01:20] hostile : so yes.. Dual use tech... IS a problem

[2017-07-19 14:01:36] hostile : BUT IMHO... the bigger issue in this specific topic is proliferation into said areas in the first place

[2017-07-19 14:01:47] cs2000 : true, it must be difficult to choose the right method. For example, Hostile, you could easily have taken all of this to DJI directly and made then patch their work, kept the GPL violations hidden etc

[2017-07-19 14:01:51] bin4ry : BAN STONES THEY CAN BE THROWN!

[2017-07-19 14:01:55] hostile : <https://twitter.com/d0tslash/status/864362237296648192>

[2017-07-19 14:02:07] hostile : THIS... is DJI's problem... NOT **mine** by sharing information -^

[2017-07-19 14:03:01] triangular : Well it's not exactly that simple. There is good need for many to bypass nfz, and nobody would have thought it important in the first place if that weren't true. If you live inside one of dji's careless circles or if you're a commercial pilot losing work over it, you'll change your priorities. That work has real value in owning your own device and being responsible for yourself. But the most responsible person will take effort to learn. If it's easily handed out, that is proliferation 101. No effort needed usually means no personal responsibility.

[2017-07-19 14:03:17] hostile : and YES for those that don't know... gyros, accelerometers and cameras ARE export controlled.

[2017-07-19 14:03:26] hostile : I must run for now tho! family stuff to attend

[2017-07-19 14:03:53] cs2000 : Yeah i agree, absolutely. But as soneone (you) who has worked extremely hard to dig up this info (along with other here, and others not here). Its a hard decision to go privately to the company or go full public exposure

[2017-07-19 14:04:01] bin4ry : everything is proliferation

[2017-07-19 14:04:07] bin4ry : form the right perspective

[2017-07-19 14:04:11] hostile : "There is good need for many to bypass nfz" and those symantecs are NOT why we are here... nor am I here to worry about scruples... hence.. lets keep the tech talk where it is best. NFZ is passeè

[2017-07-19 14:04:37] bin4ry : who stops you from shooting at airplanes with a air-rifle?

[2017-07-19 14:04:49] cs2000 : Common sense

[2017-07-19 14:04:53] bin4ry : yeah

[2017-07-19 14:04:55] hostile : @bin4ry and this is why my line of work is now subject to Wassenaar conversations FWIW.

[2017-07-19 14:04:57] cs2000 : sadly lacking in modern society

[2017-07-19 14:05:03] hostile : information proliferation is hard.

[2017-07-19 14:05:09] hostile : ok back later

[2017-07-19 14:05:14] cs2000 : cu later

[2017-07-19 14:05:33] bin4ry : yeah

[2017-07-19 14:05:41] bin4ry : thats what i think

[2017-07-19 14:05:46] triangular : Never a dull day in slack town

[2017-07-19 14:05:51] bin4ry : if you put up blocks it will not change th enature

[2017-07-19 14:05:56] bin4ry : of this people doing the stuff

[2017-07-19 14:06:22] bin4ry : what we need is not more blocks in software, we need people being punished correctly for what they do

[2017-07-19 14:06:30] bin4ry : like in every other aspect of life too

[2017-07-19 14:06:41] bin4ry : thats why drone registrations is a good thing in my eyes

[2017-07-19 14:07:05] bin4ry : you register a gun too

[2017-07-19 14:07:40] cs2000 : It wasnt proposed in this country, but fundimentally, i had/have no issue registering my drone in the same way i do my car...

[2017-07-19 14:07:47] triangular : Registration isn't the problem for me. But regulations might be, even though it will never stop people that really want to do terrible or stupid things. That's like gun laws.

[2017-07-19 14:07:57] cs2000 : It youre not an asshat, you shouldnt have to worry

[2017-07-19 14:07:57] bin4ry : exactly

[2017-07-19 14:29:11] cs2000 : Lol @hotelzululima far from it, i have been in here since day 1 :wink: Im not thinking differently, but plenty security researchers make a living privately disclosing bugs to companies and not worrying about small issues such as GPL's (smal in their eyes)

[2017-07-19 14:30:30] cs2000 : Sure, not ALL of them fix bugs, some ignore them for months, or for ever, but if people make money via that method, it damn well sure does pay as a job, companies must occasionally take heed of warnings

[2017-07-19 14:30:35] martinbogo : cs2000 : GPL violators almost /never/ comply without social pressure.

[2017-07-19 14:30:49] martinbogo : cs2000 : This is different than bug-bounty hunting ( which you're talking about )

[2017-07-19 14:31:41] martinbogo : cs2000 : When you do bug bounty hunting ( which I do as part of my living ) the results of your research DIRECTLY benefit the company, and public disclosure can hurt that company as their product becomes exploited.

[2017-07-19 14:33:17] martinbogo : cs2000 : Now -- that said -- I have opened up three CVE's against DJI's non-GPL code. They have some exploits that are harmful, don't lead to root, but to lead to DJI leaking private information and/or exposing people to that kind of harm.

[2017-07-19 14:33:39] martinbogo : I have also opened up two CVE's against eHang's GhostDrone for the same reason.

[2017-07-19 14:34:36] martinbogo : I use the process of disclosure that most security researchers use in that case. ( read <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsible_disclosure> )

[2017-07-19 14:35:06] cs2000 : RE GPL, yeah, companies seem to think they can ignore it as its an "open" license, sadly the truth is that its just as bad as counterfeiting a commercially licensed product, i get that. It takes social pressure to get them to see the error of their ways, and luck! RE Bug/bounty hunting, are we not talking about the same thing? It may be a long shot, but if we are to be seen as the"bad guys" hacking DJI' S products, and one of these products causes a crash, lets say with an airliner, DJI would look bad if the unlocked doors that let us in had been reported to them and they hadnt fixed them?

[2017-07-19 14:35:21] cs2000 : Not being awkward, just an alternate point of view :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-19 14:35:57] martinbogo : However -- GPL violation is a >> breach of contract << They have been contacted by numerous people about the violation, given plenty of time, and now the legal wheels are turning. Bruce ( Author of busybox ) has standing to challenge them, and has legal representation to do it.

[2017-07-19 14:36:27] cs2000 : And so he should! DJI should be forced to comply with the terms of the license, simple as that!

[2017-07-19 14:36:41] martinbogo : No, that's not what we are doing. We aren't "bug bounty" hunting... we're full-on modifying products that we own.

[2017-07-19 14:36:59] martinbogo : This is similar to .. say .. purchasing a car and adding a nitrous booster.

[2017-07-19 14:37:15] cs2000 : lol, odd, but fair comparison

[2017-07-19 14:37:30] martinbogo : Or removing the speed limiter from a Toyota Prius to allow it to operate in EV-mode at higher than 50kph.

[2017-07-19 14:38:05] hotelzululima : @cs2000 I was referring to the slack group just to the problem of GPL compliance(worked in the area since the first release of GPL in the early 80's and security issues been doing security issues both HW and SW since 68.. what you are talking about simply does NOT happen voluntarily..

[2017-07-19 14:38:15] martinbogo : I've been doing this a long, long time cs2000. The reason my arguments are well-practiced, is experience.

[2017-07-19 14:38:15] hotelzululima : s/was/wasnt/g

[2017-07-19 14:38:46] martinbogo : *introduces himself, properly...*

[2017-07-19 14:39:41] cs2000 : But lets say that the car manufacturer has put efforts in place to specifically stop you modifying the car. Just like DJI has done by attempting to lock things down. If your car caused a crash and killed/hurt people when fitted with Nitrous, despite the company being told there was a way around their blocks, would the company then not look bad?

[2017-07-19 14:39:52] martinbogo : I am the founder and chairperson emeritus of the Open Hardware Alliance since 2002. Our organization seeks to make sure that Open Source licenses are legally valid, and enforced by signatories, around the world.

[2017-07-19 14:41:01] martinbogo : I also was the Director of Operations for [Andover.net](http://Andover.net) / VA Linux systems ... put together the network architecture and software architecture for Slashdot, Freshmeat, Sourceforge ... which formed the core of Open Source development discussions and storage of projects :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-19 14:41:14] cs2000 : BTW, i hope i dont seem argumentative, im just looking at another point of view :wink:

[2017-07-19 14:41:21] martinbogo : Today we have github too :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-19 14:41:32] cs2000 : and im not saying i dont agree with your point of view either FWIW lol

[2017-07-19 14:42:44] martinbogo : cs2000 : Once you buy something, the principle of 'first sale' means that hardware is YOURS to do with as you please. We are seeing companies try to hide behind the DMCA and a mash of software patent attempts and lobbying. Tesla is doing this ( vis-a-vie their cars being totally software/firmware dependent )

[2017-07-19 14:42:49] martinbogo : This is _bad_ for everyone

[2017-07-19 14:43:18] martinbogo : cs2000 : I did my "composition and rhetoric" back in school. I have very little interest to debate a matter for it's own sake.

[2017-07-19 14:43:58] cs2000 : Ahh, thats what im missing. YOu are right however, many modern companies agree, you own the hardware, but they OWN the software and as such can dictate how you use your hardware. Is a pain in the butt

[2017-07-19 14:44:14] martinbogo : This particular issue has been properly debated in public forums on a number of levels .. I therefore refer you to the Internet/Google for further research.

[2017-07-19 14:45:34] cs2000 : Lol no worries, was just shooting the breeze so to speak :slightly_smiling_face: As for your professional work, its important, communities like ours need someone to make sure the big boys play by the rules, :thumbsup:

[2017-07-19 14:51:31] ender : @cs2000 they play by the rules… THEIR rules…

[2017-07-19 14:52:15] cs2000 : lol, sadly thats true

[2017-07-19 14:52:39] cs2000 : hence why we need organisations like Martin's that try to police them when they think theyre above the law

[2017-07-19 15:25:19] martinbogo : @kilrah : guess what? DJI won't sell me one of their shiny new Crystal-thingamajiggies

[2017-07-19 15:25:30] martinbogo : **whistles lightly** I wonder why? **grin**

[2017-07-19 15:29:49] hotelzululima : heheheheheh.. your reputation precedes you @martinbogo ! (btw how did they know it was you??)

[2017-07-19 15:30:31] hotelzululima : ie wondering at same time about FTC

[2017-07-19 15:30:47] kilrah : bahahaha

[2017-07-19 15:31:13] kilrah : how was that? did you just place an order on the dji online store and saw your order cancelled?

[2017-07-19 15:32:08] kilrah : Do you want my P4P+ RC dump? should be very close :laughing:

[2017-07-19 15:33:03] ender : He asked them to give him one for free for his good work :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-19 15:33:08] hotelzululima : ah

[2017-07-19 15:37:47] jan : i can recommend a doogee Y6max. It's FullHD dispaly is fairly bright, it has 3 Gbyte RAM, 32 Gbyte ROM, is easily rootable and costs just around 150 dollars/euros - good for GO and various tools

[2017-07-19 15:47:03] martinbogo : @hotelzululima : I think DJI was purely going on "this is an elite device, and we're only selling it to people with a _registered_ I2.

[2017-07-19 15:47:32] martinbogo : They don't have enough of those Crystal devices yet

[2017-07-19 16:06:02] kilrah : but what kind of message did you get?

[2017-07-19 16:06:04] kilrah : funny

[2017-07-19 16:10:21] hotelzululima : “heh not ‘leet??? well DJI you just got handed your freaking ass by this non ‘leet slack group”

[2017-07-19 16:11:52] hotelzululima : thats pretty ‘leet from my peanut gallery opinion!!

[2017-07-19 16:30:34] hotelzululima : @hostile wonder what even happened to the author of NC/the hobbit??

[2017-07-19 19:16:00] kilrah : *is printing spark prop guards*

[2017-07-19 19:17:35] kilrah : is an image visible there? slack still complaining of no space left even thought lots of stuff was cleared

[2017-07-19 19:19:55] ender : image OKAY

[2017-07-19 19:20:11] ender : but not showing progress, i thought you link your octopi :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-19 19:20:51] kilrah : heh nopes :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-07-19 19:21:11] kilrah : haven't exposed it, I vpn in

[2017-07-19 19:21:30] ender : hehe

[2017-07-19 19:22:38] kilrah : really happy with that printer though - received 2 weeks and some ago

[2017-07-19 19:22:50] kilrah : it's been running like crazy since :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-07-19 21:08:34] aciid : just dont stuck ABS in there and you are golden

[2017-07-19 21:09:38] kilrah : abs is fine

[2017-07-19 21:10:06] ender : PETG is my thing :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-19 21:10:47] kilrah : yup that's PETG :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-19 21:11:46] aciid : I lost all interest in ABS, it's just so much fine-tuning. and gunks the nozzles too often, probably should change them already

[2017-07-19 21:12:25] ender : actually by now ABS runs plain vanilla on mine PETG is a bit harder for me but the results are so much more rewarding…

[2017-07-19 21:13:18] kilrah : PETG is a bitch to find the right temp to avoid stringing

[2017-07-19 21:13:21] kilrah : other than that, great

[2017-07-19 21:14:06] ender : I always go from good bridging to less stringing back & forth :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-19 21:14:21] guest : now just give the abs a nice vapor treatment

[2017-07-19 21:14:37] ender : haha old school

[2017-07-19 21:15:05] ender : by now i got used to nice digital look, dont bother to vapor anymore although i miss the easy glueing of ABS

[2017-07-19 21:15:20] guest : love the smell

[2017-07-19 21:15:33] ender : @kilrah the plane looks perfect, how large is it ?

[2017-07-19 21:15:39] aciid : acetone vapor?

[2017-07-19 21:15:45] aciid : best trick

[2017-07-19 21:15:45] guest : yep

[2017-07-19 21:15:55] guest : acetone

[2017-07-19 21:17:12] kilrah : 240mm

[2017-07-19 21:17:23] kilrah : 0.1mm layers

[2017-07-19 21:17:45] ender : For PETG i use Cyclohexanon but its smells awful and is only half as good as acetone but the best you can get for PETG.

[2017-07-19 21:17:48] ender : nice

[2017-07-19 21:18:46] kilrah : frankly at 0.1 I'm happy with the finish

[2017-07-19 21:19:00] guest : any of you guys plaid with a SLA printer

[2017-07-19 21:19:09] kilrah : if I want really nice I take wood filament, and there the "grain" completely hides the layers

[2017-07-19 21:19:25] kilrah : even "fine" wood, not the one with the coarse bits

[2017-07-19 21:19:54] ender : well short of vapor you could just use a brush with Acetone to make it shiny…

[2017-07-19 21:20:50] aciid : pure acetone could turn ugly

[2017-07-19 21:20:54] aciid : run it down first

[2017-07-19 23:44:17] fldatatek : Nice print @kilrah..

[2017-07-19 23:46:09] fldatatek : two of my printers... Folgertech FT-5 and a Tronxy X3A, I also have a second FT-5 being built now as well.

[2017-07-20 06:17:56] bin4ry : i cannot see the print @kilrah :cry: which version did you print a own one or one from thingiverse?

[2017-07-20 06:30:52] kilrah : the spark guard? from thingiverse

[2017-07-20 06:31:53] bin4ry : this one or the other one? <https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2389945/>

[2017-07-20 06:33:28] kilrah : <http://imgur.com/a/r4u88>

[2017-07-20 06:33:33] kilrah : yea this

[2017-07-20 06:34:22] kilrah : but then I sent the photo to a friend who reminded me that the fly more combo comes with a set of guards already, so it will probably remain alone :joy:

[2017-07-20 06:37:25] bin4ry : haha

[2017-07-20 07:50:28] kilrah : ok, printing a spark holder instead

[2017-07-20 07:51:18] kilrah : <https://www.helicomicro.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/DSC01262_large.jpg>

[2017-07-20 07:53:42] bin4ry : hmm, there is the foam case for that, foam case can also hold additional props and batts

[2017-07-20 07:53:54] bin4ry : i am printing the stick holder for the RC

[2017-07-20 07:55:14] kilrah : yeah, but might want even smaller than the foam case

[2017-07-20 07:55:55] kilrah : heh <http://imgur.com/a/iZ1qz>

[2017-07-20 07:56:04] kilrah : already have a stick protector for the mavic

[2017-07-20 07:56:24] kilrah : <https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2246365>

[2017-07-20 08:03:44] bin4ry : aha, now i understand

[2017-07-20 08:03:48] bin4ry : might print that aswell :smile:

[2017-07-20 08:06:25] bin4ry : got a link to that spark holder?

[2017-07-20 08:08:46] kilrah : <https://cults3d.com/en/gadget/etui-pour-dji-spark>

[2017-07-20 08:09:25] kilrah : <http://imgur.com/a/75Gkl>

[2017-07-20 08:09:32] kilrah : printing the clip right now, ABS

[2017-07-20 08:09:39] bin4ry : ah i see 7,2€:D

[2017-07-20 08:09:44] kilrah : yea :confused:

[2017-07-20 08:09:58] bin4ry : tell me how it works before i buy it

[2017-07-20 08:10:30] kilrah : might take a few days, expect to get the spark only at the end of the month lol

[2017-07-20 08:10:35] bin4ry : haha :smile:

[2017-07-20 08:11:49] bin4ry : don't want to spend 7,2 € if it does not fit good

[2017-07-20 08:12:51] ender : keep refreshing thingyverse, will be up sooner or later in an improved version. Then download there and tip the author, (7,20 is hilariuos, but $3 might be fair)

[2017-07-20 08:13:25] bin4ry : yeah, i don't have problems with tipping. but atm i am short on money, waiting for my new job to start so keeping my € together until then

[2017-07-20 08:14:08] kilrah : I nearly redesigned one

[2017-07-20 08:14:27] bin4ry : not that we don't have enough money, but we are currently living of my wife and i feel bad to spend money on such things :smile: :smile: :smile:

[2017-07-20 08:14:45] kilrah : but meh, have had to do enough CAD this week for work already, so :laughing:

[2017-07-20 08:17:19] bin4ry : just in transition from job to job tho :wink:

[2017-07-20 08:17:32] bin4ry : @kilrah design an improved one

[2017-07-20 08:17:35] bin4ry : c'mon :smile:

[2017-07-20 08:18:23] kilrah : if this doesn't fit well I will

[2017-07-20 08:18:27] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-07-20 08:18:42] kilrah : we bought becasue it's going to be for 2 of us, so well...

[2017-07-20 08:22:29] bin4ry : yeah, if it fits well i will buy one

[2017-07-20 08:23:43] kilrah : clip done in 10 mins

[2017-07-20 08:23:54] bin4ry : whats your printer ?

[2017-07-20 08:23:59] kilrah : robo r2

[2017-07-20 08:24:03] bin4ry : cool

[2017-07-20 08:24:49] bin4ry : i "only" have a da vinci duo 2.0A modded, to take non original filaments

[2017-07-20 08:24:53] bin4ry : works well for me

[2017-07-20 08:25:09] kilrah : nice

[2017-07-20 08:25:23] aciid : I have a wanhao duplicator x2 thing now sits in the garage, fucking nozzles man ;_;

[2017-07-20 08:25:27] kilrah : what's the mod? firmware change?

[2017-07-20 08:25:51] bin4ry : mod is simple, removed the chip from original catridge and found an ino file to reset the counter

[2017-07-20 08:25:55] kilrah : saw the XYZ things several times but pissed off at their lock

[2017-07-20 08:26:07] bin4ry : so i soldered all together and soldered the chip to the reader in the printer

[2017-07-20 08:26:20] bin4ry : and everytime the counter hits zero i can just hit the arduino to reset it :smile:

[2017-07-20 08:26:37] kilrah : actually last week one of those "one day one deal" sites here had their SLA printer for a good price - but again locked to their supplies, which are additionally known to be crap

[2017-07-20 08:26:44] kilrah : and didn't find a hack

[2017-07-20 08:27:15] ender : i had the wnahao v2.1 after tons of mods it was great for the mony but i needed bigger bed, now i have 30cmx30cmx40cm :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 08:27:38] kilrah : stupid, seems the machine is great, it's cheap, but everybody complains that their resins are shit and expensive, you get others that cost 1/3rd and get better results - but their lock is now "good" it seems

[2017-07-20 08:27:48] bin4ry : the cables are going to the original chip reader

[2017-07-20 08:28:37] bin4ry : the chips from the catridges that come with the printer are placed inside this small housing toegether with and arduino and a very simple circuit to switch between connection chip<->printer and chip<->arduino to reset it if needed

[2017-07-20 08:28:52] kilrah : so people were buying BOTH the original bottles, emptying them then refilling with better resin - then you get awesome prints, but it costs you 3x what it should for the resin

[2017-07-20 08:28:59] kilrah : ok

[2017-07-20 08:29:37] kilrah : for SLA it's non-programmable NFC tags from what I've seen, and it's the printer blacklisting them once empty

[2017-07-20 08:32:02] kilrah : looking forward to the 2nd extruder upgrade on my robo

[2017-07-20 08:32:38] bin4ry : @kilrah this is the base of the hacks, voltivo forums and this sketch

[2017-07-20 08:32:40] bin4ry : <http://wonderfulengineering.com/how-to-reset-the-da-vinci-1-0-filament-counter-using-an-arduino/>

[2017-07-20 08:32:50] bin4ry : works on mine 2.0A too

[2017-07-20 08:33:03] bin4ry : found some nice case on thingiverse but seems it is gone

[2017-07-20 08:33:20] bin4ry : and build everything together into a nicer box and ripped the chips, so i don't need to keep the catrigdes

[2017-07-20 08:33:28] kilrah : hahaha seems they have the same problem with filament, crud quality

[2017-07-20 08:33:30] bin4ry : litle solderwork and very fine

[2017-07-20 08:33:31] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-20 08:34:00] kilrah : >What creates more problems is the fact that the filament that comes with this printer has some diameter inaccuracies that show up on the surface of the printed models in the form of small blobs.

[2017-07-20 08:34:30] kilrah : I can understand wanting to lock people into your supplies, IF they are good

[2017-07-20 08:34:52] bin4ry : yes indeed. the 3rd party filaments are way better

[2017-07-20 08:34:59] bin4ry : xyz filaments are crap

[2017-07-20 08:34:59] kilrah : weird that a company would diminish the value of their entire product becasue of it :laughing:

[2017-07-20 08:36:30] bin4ry : <https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:990138>

[2017-07-20 08:36:30] bin4ry : found the project i did modify

[2017-07-20 08:36:38] bin4ry : this is the one i used, just adapted it for Duo

[2017-07-20 08:37:25] ender : probably someone overriding marketings choice of filament provider as its 1 cent cheaper per ton :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 08:37:40] bin4ry : so if you get a xyz printer cheap, go for it and use this :wink:

[2017-07-20 08:37:47] ender : i went through that with UP! mini… (my first 3DP)

[2017-07-20 08:44:25] kilrah : good to know

[2017-07-20 08:44:37] kilrah : even if I'm pretty much sorted with the R2 for now

[2017-07-20 08:45:18] kilrah : haha

[2017-07-20 08:45:21] kilrah : yep

[2017-07-20 08:45:34] bin4ry : yeah, but can never hurt to have smth like this in bookmarks :smile:

[2017-07-20 08:46:04] kilrah : the first printer I saw in action was an Up Plus2

[2017-07-20 08:46:44] kilrah : indeed

[2017-07-20 08:47:17] hotelzululima : wondering how state farm and other insurance carriers insuring personal and business drones think of our activities??

[2017-07-20 08:47:22] kilrah : ok, clip finished and nice, started 2nd part

[2017-07-20 08:58:36] aciid : well you shouldnt drive a circuit car in the streets, even if you could and have it under insurance

[2017-07-20 09:10:20] aciid : should an accident happen, bird dropping on someones head eg. I think they would dissect the drone proper and dump nand and the SD-card. Having jailbroken the device voids warranties and thus probably also the insurance benefit :confused:

[2017-07-20 09:10:23] bin4ry : yay :smile:

[2017-07-20 09:23:40] hotelzululima : NOT necessarily so…

[2017-07-20 09:24:51] hotelzululima : and NOT so sure about their logging in the face of being rooted…. it really is just android/linux under the covers..

[2017-07-20 09:26:49] hotelzululima : and in my case I am MUCH more interested in how Municipal insurance carriers view this whole issue as my users are municipal agencies with some amount of legal indemnification ie public safety agencies..

[2017-07-20 09:28:02] hotelzululima : most of them pretty ticked when all this NFZ crap started interfering in the field while trying to use DJI products for work…

[2017-07-20 09:32:20] aciid : I hear you, what im saying is just that it's not bulletproof to make the product better if you are insured. you should probably hop a notch up with the product you are using if you are having problems from what it looks inspire 2 and matrice 200 are actually _supported_ by dji

[2017-07-20 10:19:27] kilrah : meh, lusers

[2017-07-20 10:22:50] kilrah : friend just called "my mac wanted to update iTunes and it wold take 4 minutes" (he missed that there actually also was the OSX update...) "but it rebooted and said 25 minutes, was too long so I force shut it down, now it doesn't boot anymore"

[2017-07-20 10:23:27] kilrah : welp, enjoy an entire day of restoring your TM backup casue your filesystem is completely hosed

[2017-07-20 10:25:34] bin4ry : how's the print getting along ?

[2017-07-20 10:26:55] bin4ry : this may interest you, perfect fit for the spark holder: <https://www.youmagine.com/designs/dji-spark-battery-belt-clip>

[2017-07-20 10:28:11] kilrah : nice, made a similar thing for a friend for P4 batts

[2017-07-20 10:28:36] kilrah : print curled, large flat surfaces in ABS = crap

[2017-07-20 10:28:41] kilrah : restarted in PETG

[2017-07-20 10:29:11] bin4ry : never had problems with large surfaces and abs

[2017-07-20 10:29:43] kilrah : usually I just put a large brim and that works - but this one made so much effort it tore the brim

[2017-07-20 10:30:21] kilrah : I might have used too little infill, but didn't want a heavy part...

[2017-07-20 10:30:33] kilrah : it's only when it had done a few infill layers that it curled

[2017-07-20 10:31:56] bin4ry : hmm, well no idea, i had configured my bed tempreature for the new filament and since then it just runs and runs and runs, never had any problems with ABS at all

[2017-07-20 10:32:10] kilrah : how hot?

[2017-07-20 10:32:28] bin4ry : 90°C

[2017-07-20 10:32:44] bin4ry : and closed room in this printer

[2017-07-20 10:32:48] bin4ry : i once left the printer open

[2017-07-20 10:32:51] bin4ry : print was fucked up :smile:

[2017-07-20 10:33:00] bin4ry : so NEVER was a lie, once i had a problem

[2017-07-20 10:33:02] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-07-20 10:33:23] bin4ry : also a usually using a good layer of glue

[2017-07-20 10:33:28] bin4ry : elmers purple

[2017-07-20 10:33:36] kilrah : yeah mine is only semi-closed and won't heat that high... I can reach about 90° indicated, but on the print surface it's actually only 75

[2017-07-20 10:33:38] bin4ry : german glue did not work on test prints for me

[2017-07-20 10:34:02] bin4ry : i made some test prints for different envoirments

[2017-07-20 10:34:12] bin4ry : and came out with 90° and 220° for this filament and my setup

[2017-07-20 10:34:16] bin4ry : also this glue works perfect

[2017-07-20 10:34:16] kilrah : some guys have made a hood and say it's better, didn't want to bother

[2017-07-20 10:34:26] bin4ry : the german uhu or pritt don't work for me on this temp

[2017-07-20 10:34:30] bin4ry : yeah

[2017-07-20 10:34:37] bin4ry : i think the closed room is the trick for abs

[2017-07-20 10:34:41] bin4ry : you need to keep the temp in

[2017-07-20 10:35:06] kilrah : I'm actually only using ABS because I bought a 1kg roll for $15 on clearance while ordering other stuff :grinning: would just do PETG and be done with it otherwise

[2017-07-20 10:35:16] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-20 10:35:42] kilrah : need to use it :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-07-20 10:35:42] bin4ry : well i didn't want to use PETG

[2017-07-20 10:35:52] bin4ry : only can sustain 90°

[2017-07-20 10:36:07] bin4ry : if you print a phone holder and left it in the car or so it will vanish :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-07-20 10:36:20] bin4ry : ABS is very fine in durability

[2017-07-20 10:37:21] bin4ry : but it is not food safe

[2017-07-20 10:37:31] bin4ry : so i think best is to choose for each application

[2017-07-20 10:37:40] kilrah : yea

[2017-07-20 10:40:22] kilrah : I have some nice copper filament, it looks good but is total crap

[2017-07-20 10:40:29] kilrah : too bad

[2017-07-20 10:41:30] kilrah : softens/melts soooooooooo low, clogs the nozzle, starts softening in the extruder's pinch just from the extruder motor warming up

[2017-07-20 10:50:42] bin4ry : well i am pretty happy that this cheap printer is working like it is :smile:

[2017-07-20 10:50:54] bin4ry : i see for the copper filament

[2017-07-20 10:51:02] bin4ry : i don't think i can print this with this nozzle

[2017-07-20 11:02:53] bin4ry : @kilrah did you find any lens protector for spark yet?

[2017-07-20 11:03:50] gcbrent : I got one in today

[2017-07-20 11:03:56] gcbrent : Works great!

[2017-07-20 11:04:22] kilrah : didn't look for one

[2017-07-20 11:04:30] kilrah : will probably order some ND filters

[2017-07-20 11:05:16] kilrah : yeah I changed my nozzle for a hardened one

[2017-07-20 11:05:41] bin4ry : @gcbrent printed? or bought?

[2017-07-20 11:05:55] bin4ry : i see, i ight get another nozzle too, but not yet :smile:

[2017-07-20 11:06:45] tomgt : Any news about rc flashing on p4p?

[2017-07-20 11:34:10] ender : @bin4ry bin4ry for Wanhao ?! i got some spares i recall, dont need anymore…

[2017-07-20 11:35:09] gcbrent : Bought it off ebay @bin4ry

[2017-07-20 11:38:00] ender : link ?

[2017-07-20 11:38:07] ender : PLEASE :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 11:38:28] ender : well one could use a polarpro nd as lens protector :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 11:42:35] bin4ry : @ender no for Davinci

[2017-07-20 11:42:42] bin4ry : @gcbrent ah ok :smile:

[2017-07-20 11:42:49] ender : okay, otherwise i’ve put it in the mail :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 11:44:44] bin4ry : @ender thanks, but won't fit. bought this davinci cheap, not getting a second printer this fast :smile: :smile:

[2017-07-20 11:44:57] ender : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 11:45:02] kilrah : many printers use the same nozzles, might want to check

[2017-07-20 11:45:14] ender : yes, its MK something standard…

[2017-07-20 11:45:33] ender : I have a whole bunch of Wanhao stuff <SOMEHWERE> that i forgot when i sold my Wanhao…

[2017-07-20 11:45:43] kilrah : haha

[2017-07-20 11:46:16] kilrah : i need to get rid of my velleman

[2017-07-20 11:46:25] ender : No matter what i buy i always order a set of “what breaks first” stuff that i THEN forget when selling stuff, fills whole boxes :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 11:46:35] ender : also for my last 3 cars :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 11:46:42] ender : kind of prepper :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 11:47:23] kilrah : yeah downtime pisses me off, also try to have spares at hand if they can't be ordered in more than a day or 2

[2017-07-20 11:47:50] bin4ry : @kilrah you should design a belt clip for the RC :wink:

[2017-07-20 11:48:03] kilrah : heh why not

[2017-07-20 11:48:16] bin4ry : i am totally untalented with CAD

[2017-07-20 11:48:18] bin4ry : i tried a few times

[2017-07-20 11:48:24] kilrah : and a top side phone clip, and... :smile:

[2017-07-20 11:48:32] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-20 11:48:39] ender : Yeah and belt clip for Macbook, S7 Edge, Mavic, Spark, P4P and THEN you sell a very expensive Belt extender :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 11:48:44] ender : haha same idea

[2017-07-20 11:48:49] kilrah : I'm not good either, can do some basic stuff that's functional without looking terribly good lol

[2017-07-20 11:49:30] kilrah : someone made a nice phone clip but angle not adjustable

[2017-07-20 11:49:57] bin4ry : i hated in when i needed to do some stuff in university with ProE

[2017-07-20 11:50:04] bin4ry : and after that

[2017-07-20 11:50:09] bin4ry : i tried again when getting my printer

[2017-07-20 11:50:26] bin4ry : but it took me sooooooooooooooo long to do the most simple stuff and then it was soooooo ugly :smile:

[2017-07-20 11:50:44] kilrah : lol

[2017-07-20 11:51:01] kilrah : <https://www.polarprofilters.com/collections/dji-mavic-filters-and-accessories/products/dji-mavic-phone-mount>

[2017-07-20 11:51:04] ender : i beat myself to watch every sketchup training video :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 11:51:11] kilrah : that's the one, same with adjsutable angle and I'd have bought

[2017-07-20 11:51:43] ender : nice viewing angle.

[2017-07-20 11:51:59] ender : Where did you buy yours kilrah ? havent seen similar on Thingyverse…

[2017-07-20 11:52:09] kilrah : my what

[2017-07-20 11:52:15] guest : @bin4ry try SketchUp. easy as phuck for 3D cad

[2017-07-20 11:52:18] ender : phone holder (phone on top)

[2017-07-20 11:52:24] kilrah : I don't have one :smile:

[2017-07-20 11:52:31] kilrah : i said i should design one

[2017-07-20 11:52:43] ender : ah OKAY, yes you should and let me leach the file :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 11:52:57] bin4ry : @guest will take a look

[2017-07-20 11:53:09] ender : yeah +100 for Sketchup

[2017-07-20 11:53:11] kilrah : except i won't, since I now have the goggles and don't look at the screen that often anymore, default mounting is ok for the few times

[2017-07-20 11:53:34] ender : i want one for Spark as bringing mymoverios will sometimes defy the “portable” aspect

[2017-07-20 11:53:47] ender : So Whatever it is it has to be easy detachable…

[2017-07-20 11:54:11] ender : i am trying to cram stuff in my smallest case Moverios + Spark + Remote

[2017-07-20 11:54:18] ender : Its 3D Tetris again :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 12:02:38] bin4ry : i just want a spark + RC clip :smile:

[2017-07-20 12:02:44] bin4ry : printing the batt clips right now

[2017-07-20 12:02:49] bin4ry : or one to test first

[2017-07-20 12:09:32] kilrah : cool

[2017-07-20 12:43:06] the_lord : bin4ry didn't you see the spark FTP password in go app?

[2017-07-20 12:50:09] bin4ry : ehm

[2017-07-20 12:50:10] bin4ry : might be

[2017-07-20 12:50:17] bin4ry : but if yes, then i forgot to note

[2017-07-20 12:50:23] bin4ry : wait

[2017-07-20 12:50:29] bin4ry : i look again if i can find something

[2017-07-20 13:17:52] kilrah : ok, third part printing now

[2017-07-20 13:26:08] bin4ry : @the_lord no cannot find some pwd in the app

[2017-07-20 13:27:55] the_lord : i remember when i connected my laptop to SPARK WiFI the FTP asked for password

[2017-07-20 13:28:31] kilrah : sticker on aircraft normally

[2017-07-20 13:28:44] kilrah : maybe under battery

[2017-07-20 13:29:55] hostile : it always took ANY password I gave it

[2017-07-20 13:30:07] hostile : I'd have to check under wifi mode, but thought it was same @the_lord

[2017-07-20 13:30:20] kilrah : oh, ftp pass

[2017-07-20 13:30:23] kilrah : not wifi lol

[2017-07-20 13:30:46] kilrah : mavic takes anything on wifi too at least

[2017-07-20 13:30:58] ender : really ? sick…

[2017-07-20 13:30:59] kilrah : nice holder

[2017-07-20 13:31:47] the_lord : i tried several passwords with no success

[2017-07-20 13:32:22] bin4ry : batt fits really well

[2017-07-20 13:32:31] bin4ry : printed 0.200 layers

[2017-07-20 13:32:34] bin4ry : abs

[2017-07-20 13:32:43] hostile : weird @the_lord

[2017-07-20 13:32:47] hostile : I'll have to check that out

[2017-07-20 13:32:51] hostile : try anonymous

[2017-07-20 13:33:06] kilrah : support?

[2017-07-20 13:33:19] bin4ry : yeah with automatic support from simplify3d

[2017-07-20 13:33:26] kilrah : ok, nice, can't see it

[2017-07-20 13:33:40] bin4ry : is removed already

[2017-07-20 13:33:41] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-20 13:33:49] kilrah : yeah I know, mean can't see the marks :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-07-20 13:34:10] bin4ry : ah, there are none. why would there be ? :smile: support breaks away nearly automatically

[2017-07-20 13:34:24] kilrah : not having as much success with cura

[2017-07-20 13:34:39] bin4ry : simplify works great for me

[2017-07-20 13:34:52] kilrah : yeah need to give that a try one day

[2017-07-20 13:35:05] kilrah : annoying that you precisely can't give it a try

[2017-07-20 13:37:14] bin4ry : here you see some support lines

[2017-07-20 13:37:25] bin4ry : for simplify i think they have 2 weeks of money back

[2017-07-20 13:41:52] bin4ry : printing second one right now

[2017-07-20 13:43:09] kilrah : nice

[2017-07-20 13:43:22] kilrah : oh ok, that's new (or mwybe I just went over it too quickly)

[2017-07-20 13:44:06] kilrah : I'll print a couple when I'm done with the big holder, probably got 5-6 hours to go

[2017-07-20 13:44:16] kilrah : will do PLA of same color as you lol

[2017-07-20 13:44:39] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-20 13:44:47] bin4ry : i am really interested if it turns out good for you

[2017-07-20 13:44:51] bin4ry : the big holder

[2017-07-20 13:45:05] kilrah : yup

[2017-07-20 14:03:54] bin4ry : i am still afraid the bottom part will just fall off with this big spark holder

[2017-07-20 15:43:33] aciid : may I suggest RS mechanical, if you are still undecided. it's really made for technical CAD modelling, it's free and intuitive <https://www.rs-online.com/designspark/mechanical-features-and-benefits>

[2017-07-20 17:26:39] hostile : hahahaha

[2017-07-20 17:26:40] hostile : <https://oneupsecurity.com/research/remote-code-execution-in-source-games>

[2017-07-20 19:03:28] martinbogo : I =exclusively= use Simplify 3D these days

[2017-07-20 19:03:38] martinbogo : once you get your settings dialed in for a material, it's really quite amazing what you can do

[2017-07-20 19:03:48] martinbogo : and Simplify3D v 4.0.0 is around the corner with a lot of features

[2017-07-20 21:20:05] fldatatek : I use S3D also..

[2017-07-20 21:37:55] ender : I like S3D MUCH but after tuning Cura to the Max (and using the latest BETA) i think the ONLY thing beeing better is bridging (okay and looks) and so i cannot justify the price vs. free …

[2017-07-20 21:38:34] ender : But it has been a steep learning curve and some Meters of ABS / PETG in Cura before i came close :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 21:39:40] martinbogo : I can never get the support material in Cura to match the ease of removal I get in S3D .. and I make extensive use of variable infill.

[2017-07-20 21:41:39] kilrah : really need to give this a try

[2017-07-20 21:42:01] ender : At first i can only ack, i got it working by finetuning nozzle temp & fan speed. but you are right. Its incredible how good S3D is out of the Box and i ack that its worth the money if you spend it…

[2017-07-20 21:42:07] ender : Its sleek

[2017-07-20 21:42:58] ender : I HAVE to say that S3D managed to destroy / corrupt my settings more then once on Mac & PC so i wonder what was so special about my settings…

[2017-07-20 21:43:55] ender : Maybe i’ll readjust with v4…

[2017-07-20 21:47:00] martinbogo : I've had zero issues with settings ... my TAZ 6 and Kossel work wonderfully

[2017-07-20 21:47:55] ender : strange enough…

[2017-07-20 21:48:05] ender : MAYBE it was because of my “test” version :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-20 22:36:01] fldatatek : Well I can justify the cost of S3D a bit easier because I use it almost everyday for work as well.

[2017-07-21 00:40:32] hotelzululima : sheesh.. i feel old fashioned with an aging bukobot V2

[2017-07-21 00:53:50] fldatatek : Fusion360 and Simplify3D are my weapons of choice.

[2017-07-21 09:24:13] czokie : I just had the best fly today .... Out at a riverside park for takeoff - flying over water. This dude comes by just before take off, and his dog starts getting aggressive with the drone while it is still in the box. The guy explains his dog is fascinated by drones. I did some stuff over water for a while, but I brought him back to the park, and had some fun with the dog. He kept chasing the drone and had a blast... Made my day.

[2017-07-21 09:26:47] bin4ry : haha :smile:

[2017-07-21 09:27:01] bin4ry : better than chasing balls

[2017-07-21 09:27:59] ender : lots of vids where the dog wins :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-21 09:28:18] ender : > better than chasing balls ---> DeeJayEyeBalls ? ;-)

[2017-07-21 10:30:05] kilrah : yup some dogs go totally crazy with flying things... can get "interesting" when you've got to land at some point :smile:

[2017-07-21 10:35:05] kilrah : crap, was thinking the battery clip was taking really long to print.... didn't notice I had left the settings on 0.1mm :smile:

[2017-07-21 10:35:38] bin4ry : hahahaha

[2017-07-21 10:35:49] bin4ry : printing one propguard

[2017-07-21 10:35:58] kilrah : bit useless to be that precise for that :smile:

[2017-07-21 10:36:02] bin4ry : yah

[2017-07-21 10:36:08] bin4ry : i've printed it on 0.2

[2017-07-21 10:36:18] kilrah : that's what I _intended_ to do...

[2017-07-21 10:36:19] bin4ry : totally ok

[2017-07-21 10:36:20] bin4ry : hehe

[2017-07-21 10:36:28] bin4ry : how long does it take approx?

[2017-07-21 10:36:32] bin4ry : on 0.1 ?

[2017-07-21 10:37:17] kilrah : will probably be 3h30 or so

[2017-07-21 10:37:59] bin4ry : i see, the propguard takes me 4h (calculated) on 0.2

[2017-07-21 10:38:03] bin4ry : just started

[2017-07-21 10:38:27] kilrah : i think it did about 2h30 on 0.2 for me

[2017-07-21 10:38:35] bin4ry : i did forget to reduce the infill

[2017-07-21 10:38:38] bin4ry : it is on 50

[2017-07-21 10:38:39] kilrah : haha

[2017-07-21 10:38:41] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-21 10:38:50] bin4ry : but i dont want to stop now

[2017-07-21 10:38:56] bin4ry : will be ok to test the fit

[2017-07-21 10:38:57] kilrah : i used 15% i think

[2017-07-21 10:39:12] kilrah : need light stuff when it flies :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-07-21 10:39:37] kilrah : also used thinner walls, 0.8 instead of the default 1.2

[2017-07-21 10:39:50] kilrah : still PLENTY strong in PETG

[2017-07-21 10:40:03] bin4ry : ok, yeah i fucked that up. but i will let him print it now :smile:

[2017-07-21 10:40:11] bin4ry : atleast i get the idea then

[2017-07-21 10:40:18] bin4ry : and can reprint on better settings

[2017-07-21 10:40:18] kilrah : yup

[2017-07-21 10:54:47] ender : did any of you guys play with BIG nozzles (e.g.0.8) to do quick’n dirty printing with .6 layer ?!?

[2017-07-21 10:54:58] kilrah : nope

[2017-07-21 10:55:10] kilrah : i have a 0.25 one I've never tried yet though

[2017-07-21 10:55:16] ender : kids want strange & huge stuff now that i have 30x30x40

[2017-07-21 10:55:40] ender : precision is okay for me with .4 nozzle / 0.1 Played with less but IMO didnt justify the added time

[2017-07-21 10:55:55] ender : if i need better finish i do it “chemical”

[2017-07-21 10:56:18] kilrah : for me too, was more of a curiosity

[2017-07-21 10:56:33] kilrah : was ordering a hardened nozzle anyway so I jsut threw that in

[2017-07-21 10:56:49] ender : yup, kids have a whole bag of test cubes, those xyz 20mm ones and custom 10mm & 40mm :slightly_smiling_face: Like hundreds literally

[2017-07-21 10:58:25] kilrah : haha

[2017-07-21 11:00:18] goof : the sonar on the bottom makes high pitched noise that apparently annoys certain animals

[2017-07-21 11:00:32] goof : might be why some dogs go crazy over drones

[2017-07-21 11:04:51] ender : cat hated my arduino sonar already :wink: But it also hated the general idea of flying over its head i guess…

[2017-07-21 11:05:43] ender : ACTUALLY producing LEGO bricks (tm) that really fit well is a tough benchmark.

[2017-07-21 11:32:15] kilrah : ok, got S3D to try

[2017-07-21 12:02:30] tomgt : Guys I have p4p but it is not stable in sky its drifting a little bit with little wind

[2017-07-21 12:02:33] tomgt : Any suggestion?

[2017-07-21 12:12:40] jezzab : Do an imu and compass calibration?

[2017-07-21 12:21:24] ender : some say newer fw sucks especially for wind (bad = 2.00.0106)

[2017-07-21 12:21:29] ender : p4p

[2017-07-21 12:21:58] ender : good = 1.02.0602

[2017-07-21 12:22:04] ender : (goof had that experience)

[2017-07-21 13:48:09] goof : not sure if P4Pro follows the same FW versioning they backported a couple of Mavic smart flight modes to P4 standard, like Tripod

[2017-07-21 13:48:24] goof : also smart landing that uses VPS camera to line up the landing zone

[2017-07-21 13:48:44] goof : but if you have a bird that doesn't agree with the FW it's crap

[2017-07-21 13:48:59] goof : halved battery life from all the wobbling it does....

[2017-07-21 14:09:45] kilrah : mm, the simplify3d version of the clip has come out MUCH nicer than the cura one

[2017-07-21 15:25:57] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-21 15:25:58] bin4ry : see

[2017-07-21 15:26:02] bin4ry : i say simplify is really good

[2017-07-21 15:26:39] bin4ry : my propguard came out nice too, only thing -> sometimes i have to add some supports manually, (there is an option to place them) since s3d doesn't make them as i would like it to

[2017-07-21 15:27:31] kilrah : yes but having that freedom is nice

[2017-07-21 15:27:53] kilrah : actually the cura clip is pretty much good for the trash... impossible to remove the supports

[2017-07-21 15:28:16] kilrah : S3D ones no issue, and the bottom of the actual part is nicer

[2017-07-21 15:28:46] kilrah : unrelated, but my printer's filament runout sensor just proved it worked and saved me a print lol

[2017-07-21 15:29:54] bin4ry : nice

[2017-07-21 15:30:01] bin4ry : my propguard has 9g with 50% infill

[2017-07-21 15:30:02] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-21 15:31:47] bin4ry : and now i understand your confusion about my non existing support lines :smile:

[2017-07-21 15:32:58] kilrah : yea... with cura if you set spacing to 0.2 you can remove them but it's pretty crud, if you leave the default 0.1 spacing it's nearly impossible to remove and where you manage it's also pretty crud lol

[2017-07-21 15:33:09] kilrah : you sure about your scales? 11.4gr here

[2017-07-21 15:33:12] kilrah : what material?

[2017-07-21 15:33:53] bin4ry : ABS 0.2 50% infill honeycomb

[2017-07-21 15:35:56] kilrah : ABS Density: 1.04 g/cm^3

[2017-07-21 15:36:03] kilrah : oh it's light, had never noticed

[2017-07-21 15:36:43] kilrah : PETG 1.23 it seems

[2017-07-21 15:39:26] kilrah : S3D also printed my clip in 1h25, vs planned 2 hours and some for cura

[2017-07-21 15:39:38] bin4ry : i see you like it already

[2017-07-21 15:40:14] kilrah : quite indeed

[2017-07-21 15:40:47] kilrah : found a bug with the pause on filament runout detection / resume of my printer though

[2017-07-21 15:41:09] kilrah : it somehow unpowers the steppers after a while, so when you put filament back in you'll shift it... and it doesn't rehome

[2017-07-21 15:41:29] kilrah : had to repause and manually send homing gcode after seeing it shifted a bunch

[2017-07-21 15:41:29] bin4ry : and i am currently trying my best with this windpws10 3d builder software

[2017-07-21 15:41:46] kilrah : cool

[2017-07-21 15:41:55] bin4ry : trying to model this spark holder myself

[2017-07-21 15:42:09] bin4ry : software seems basic but quite nice for a quick shot

[2017-07-21 15:42:37] kilrah : yea, haven't used it much for creation, but it's the best I've found for fixing/manipulating STL files

[2017-07-21 15:42:59] bin4ry : yea, quite simple :wink: thats good for me

[2017-07-21 15:43:00] bin4ry : hahaha

[2017-07-21 15:43:13] kilrah : you can split/join stuff

[2017-07-21 15:43:43] kilrah : if you need to extend/shorten part of a piece or something it's a piece of cake

[2017-07-21 15:43:59] bin4ry : yep

[2017-07-21 15:44:03] bin4ry : basic functions

[2017-07-21 15:44:04] bin4ry : easy to do

[2017-07-21 15:44:07] bin4ry : thats what i need

[2017-07-21 15:44:14] bin4ry : for this simple models

[2017-07-21 15:44:22] kilrah : and interestingly I haven't found any "advanced" SW that will do this

[2017-07-21 15:44:39] bin4ry : or you haven't found the function in the shitload of other stuff they come with

[2017-07-21 15:44:40] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-07-21 15:47:28] kilrah : nope, most SW can't do much with STLs

[2017-07-21 15:49:04] kilrah : and cant even recognise a flat surface for you to put stuff on for example

[2017-07-21 15:49:14] kilrah : 3D builder does, and even often snaps things for you

[2017-07-21 15:50:17] bin4ry : cool :smile:

[2017-07-21 15:50:26] djayeyeballs : Ups backup on it too :)

[2017-07-21 15:52:22] bin4ry : :smiley:

[2017-07-21 15:52:58] kilrah : nice

[2017-07-22 16:38:21] fldatatek : You would need something like meshmixer to modify STL's

[2017-07-22 20:39:23] kilrah : Or 3D builder that we were talking about :wink:

[2017-07-22 21:10:29] kilrah : crap, sounds like PC servicing time :confused: last night poweroff hapened again this afternoon

[2017-07-22 21:10:42] kilrah : with mobo complaining of unstable voltages on next boot

[2017-07-23 01:21:50] goof : PSU problems are the worst

[2017-07-23 01:22:12] goof : had a corsair AX860i fail and take out my last motherboard :disappointed:

[2017-07-23 02:23:05] hotelzululima : wow this place is kind of empty

[2017-07-23 02:26:24] hotelzululima : friday night

[2017-07-23 02:46:38] jezzab : Sunday Lunchtime :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-07-23 02:46:54] jezzab : few tumbleweeds blowing around in here though

[2017-07-23 09:02:04] goof : `Upload error, Tap to retry` with zero information about what actually went wrong.... devs who do this need to be made to write Hello World in 179 different programming languages until they learn to make useful error messages.....

[2017-07-23 09:43:59] jezzab : Lol

[2017-07-23 09:46:55] hans112 : They even tell you what to do .... Tap and retry :laughing:

[2017-07-23 09:47:15] goof : :rage:

[2017-07-23 09:47:47] goof : `have you tried turning it off then on again?`

[2017-07-23 09:57:56] kilrah : "You wonder what happened? We have no idea either"

[2017-07-24 08:55:16] bradleyds2 : Hopefully random is the right place to ask. Just ordered a DJI Phantom 3 Pro with 2 batteries, all the manuals etc, the remote had parabolic range extenders, and included was also a Lexar 633x 16GB micro SD and a SanDisk extreme 32GB. It cost $730 AUD ($580 USD) total, is that a good price, or should I have bought it elsewhere?

[2017-07-24 08:57:26] hans112 : You already bought it, so why bother ? :smile:

[2017-07-24 08:57:45] hans112 : Just enjoy and try not to crash ;)

[2017-07-24 08:58:58] jezzab : Buyers Remorse?

[2017-07-24 09:01:07] bradleyds2 : A little bit... I only got my first drone (a Spark) less than a week ago, so I honestly don't know how much it's worth. I'll try not to crash it, any idea what the speed can be safely set to? I believe the Phantom 3 doesn't have a sports mode.

[2017-07-24 09:03:01] bradleyds2 : Should I have posted this in ~spoon-feeding instead? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

[2017-07-24 09:08:22] hans112 : Hehehe can't help you with that, no p3

[2017-07-24 09:09:19] bradleyds2 : Okay, I think I'll keep the speed the same then for the sake of not crashing it first day then. But then once the first day has passed.... We'll see :wink:

[2017-07-24 11:59:33] mikeman : Phantom 3 Pro is a still good drone, enjoy it. I have p3p and mavic and I think p3p gets better video but it's just bit big to travel with :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-24 12:01:19] bradleyds2 : Yeah, I saw that the video is nice and stable and it shoots 4k, definitely not something I'd put in my luggage if I'm travelling far though. Interestingly, it seems the Mavic would be able to shoot 4k if it had a 3 axis gimbal, but since it's two it makes up for the third using the camera and downsizing.

[2017-07-24 12:02:49] mikeman : I think you mean Spark but yes it's basically cropping one axis.

[2017-07-24 12:06:00] bradleyds2 : Yep, the Spark, my bad. I hear the litchi app is really good for the Phantom, I'm looking forward to trying it out :) There seems to be quite a few hardware mods, such as for the battery and controller. Have you used any that you can give your opinion on?

[2017-07-24 12:09:18] mikeman : For p3p i just have those parabolic extenders but i never tested them scientifically if they actually make any difference. Other that that landing gear felt bit flimsy so i added carbon camera protector which makes it bit more rigid.

[2017-07-24 12:10:00] mikeman : About Litchi, it depends what you need. For me it was worth the price since it has lot better follow me mode than dji go.

[2017-07-24 12:11:29] bradleyds2 : I read that most of the differences between the 3 and 4 are software based, and using Litchi makes quite a few of them go away, such as the tracking. For the camera protector, is there a certain brand you'd recommend, or just buy a random one for $5 from ebay?

[2017-07-24 12:16:08] mikeman : i just bough some random cheap one like this: <https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1t829KVXXXXc9XVXXq6xXFXXXq/Carbon-Fiber-Gimbal-Camera-Landing-Guard-Protective-Board-protector-For-DJI-Phantom-3-with-font-b.jpg>

[2017-07-24 12:18:13] mikeman : Litchi can do some things better but its not really making p3 same as p4 :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-24 12:22:49] bradleyds2 : Thanks for the picture, ordering one now. I'll probably need a case as well, or a bag. Do you use either of those that you can recommend? Sorry for the trouble.

[2017-07-24 12:29:36] mikeman : No problem :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-24 12:31:17] mikeman : I didn't have bag but friend had one of those 25usd ones which worked for him but you can see why its cheap. So get one which suits for you, for example if you need any protection, do not buy that 25usd one.

[2017-07-24 12:32:42] bradleyds2 : OK, got it. I was wondering this for my spark as well, when it comes to cases, does brand make a difference, or should I just get one that looks good and is cheap?

[2017-07-24 12:33:11] mikeman : Usually cheap is not good but cant comment about Spark bags :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-24 12:33:31] mikeman : i would say there is lot of reviews about bags in internets.

[2017-07-24 12:33:56] bradleyds2 : Okay, I'll search some more then. Everywhere I could find always recommended a different one.

[2017-07-24 12:35:13] mikeman : Other than that, if you want to get smooth and good quality videos get ND filters and learn how to use them. Like keeping shutter speed double the frame rate and so on.

[2017-07-24 12:36:15] bradleyds2 : OK, will do. Thanks for all the help you're giving me!

[2017-07-24 21:34:22] guest : some here were talking about 3D stuff, and I hope someone here can help me! I've designed some things (for the Mavic), and put them on thingiverse (licensed under the Creative Commons - Attribution - Non-Commercial - Share Alike license). Some person (Piotr) wants to buy the license for it, and I told him that this was a no go. Now he wants to buy a permit to sell it (for one year). Is this some thingiverse scam? The deal really sounds interesting!

[2017-07-24 21:43:00] kilrah : not much to lose anyway

[2017-07-24 21:43:07] kilrah : usually it’s ok

[2017-07-24 21:43:38] kilrah : if they were scammers they wouldn’t offer you money, they’d grab the file and sell without giving a shit

[2017-07-24 22:04:44] guest : So true. I've already seen some of my things on banggood, ebay and so on...

[2017-07-24 22:05:24] guest : the person in question also send me a contract to sign..

[2017-07-24 22:05:44] kilrah : I’ve licensed video footage and photos for quite a nice amount on such contacts

[2017-07-24 22:05:56] kilrah : review that very carefully lol

[2017-07-24 22:06:06] guest : will do :wink:

[2017-07-24 22:07:16] kilrah : that you don’t give them exclusivity, that you retain the rights, you can also still license to others etc

[2017-07-24 22:07:39] guest : understood.

[2017-07-24 22:08:10] martinbogo : What did you make?

[2017-07-24 22:08:14] martinbogo : *is a thingiverse fan*

[2017-07-24 22:08:38] guest : some skids for the mavic

[2017-07-24 22:09:23] guest : <https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1986993>

[2017-07-24 22:09:30] guest : nothing special

[2017-07-24 22:11:30] martinbogo : Actually .. inexpensive to print, fairly useful .. I can see that someone would want to license it

[2017-07-24 22:11:53] martinbogo : Ask the following questions "How many are you going to produce"

[2017-07-24 22:12:40] martinbogo : and "Where are you going to sell them? ( i.e. eBay, Amazon, etc )

[2017-07-24 22:13:05] guest : I think that he is also going after all the ppl who copied it and are selling it on the web.

[2017-07-24 22:13:10] martinbogo : Then make sure you track their sales, and get paid a flat fee down in front, and a per-unit produced. Also time limit the license to a year, with a renewal clause

[2017-07-24 22:13:38] martinbogo : @guest : If he gets a license, that would be in his best interest --- what license did YOU originall set it to on Thingiverse?

[2017-07-24 22:13:49] martinbogo : creative commons, noncommercial, attribution?

[2017-07-24 22:14:44] guest : yes the license is only for one year, and it has always been licensed under the Creative Commons - Attribution - Non-Commercial - Share Alike license

[2017-07-24 22:14:45] martinbogo : It's a good bit of design.

[2017-07-24 22:16:07] guest : I've also created this for it. <https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2061712>

[2017-07-24 22:16:46] guest : anyway... I'm off to get some sleep. will keep you updated..

[2017-07-24 22:16:51] guest : Thank you for the inf..

[2017-07-24 22:16:57] guest : *o

[2017-07-25 19:46:32] hotelzululima : still LMAO at this… <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1Hhvdpvp5o>

[2017-07-25 19:58:48] kyokushin : Hi there :wink:

[2017-07-25 20:00:13] hostile : oi

[2017-07-25 21:15:32] tyras : hostile

[2017-07-25 21:15:38] tyras : I posted it on DJI forum

[2017-07-25 21:15:43] tyras : what do you think?

[2017-07-25 21:15:49] tyras : I also talked to dji support live chat

[2017-07-25 21:15:55] tyras : they told me to send it to repairs

[2017-07-25 21:19:46] tyras : @hostile

[2017-07-25 21:22:46] hostile : I told you that like 39 times .lol

[2017-07-25 21:23:04] hostile : buy a core board and man up, or send in for repairs

[2017-07-25 21:23:16] hostile : there are no other options. DJI Forums do not know more than we know here

[2017-07-25 21:23:26] hostile : @martinbogo and his new recovery mode bypass MAY help you...

[2017-07-25 21:23:52] hostile : you are not doing your self any favors by hopping in random rooms and tagging me directly fwiw.

[2017-07-25 21:24:08] hostile : I am busy AF... best to follow the advice given to you multiple times in ~general

[2017-07-26 03:21:39] martinbogo : I have that shirt :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-26 13:02:21] goof : lies

[2017-07-26 13:02:35] goof : nice weather for it though :+1:

[2017-07-26 13:03:10] hans112 : Very nice.. flying as well ?

[2017-07-26 13:03:17] guest : Yep.. but bad weather is on its way:confused:

[2017-07-26 13:03:41] guest : No time for flying. Need to be at the next dock soon.

[2017-07-26 13:03:56] hans112 : :smile:

[2017-07-26 13:04:42] guest : @Hans On my way to Stavoren

[2017-07-26 13:09:41] hans112 : Mooie omgeving daar :+1:

[2017-07-26 16:19:53] pure3d : <https://mavicpilots.com/threads/mavic-pro-battery-mod.10983/page-52#post-259943>

[2017-07-26 16:20:01] pure3d : nearly 52 mins of flight time

[2017-07-26 16:20:08] pure3d : he said 50% flying, 50% hovering

[2017-07-26 16:21:39] hans112 : I read about the Titan... But I wonder if it is really that good as they say :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-26 16:25:17] pure3d : the results speak for themselves

[2017-07-26 16:30:14] dreadwing007 : Guys, do you know if the P4/I2 FW can be flashed for both the Drone and RC? I know there is a specific FW for the MP for either the drone or controller but wasn't sure for the Phantoms/I2's.

[2017-07-26 19:26:49] the_lord : no the P4/I2 RCs are not android like Mavic RC you can upgrade the RC to latest and keep the drone on favorite FW

[2017-07-26 19:52:29] martinbogo : @the_lord : Umm .. almost

[2017-07-26 19:53:01] martinbogo : @the_lord : I downgraded the P4 ( those flight issues are HORRIBLE ) ... but I am experiencing some radio instability issues

[2017-07-26 21:59:29] jezzab : @martinbogo I have those radio instabilities when I was on V2.00 lol

[2017-07-26 22:02:21] jezzab : But I downgraded yesterday so I'm going to try and do some tests today, weather permitting

[2017-07-27 00:36:45] goof : @martinbogo FWIW some guys have had issues going from 1.02.0602 --> 2.00.0106, rebinding the RC fixed that for them...

[2017-07-27 00:39:42] martinbogo : @goof : I found that as well ...

[2017-07-27 00:39:49] martinbogo : @goof : But I was able to downrev without issue

[2017-07-27 00:40:09] goof : :disappointed:

[2017-07-27 00:41:08] goof : I'm convinced the guys reporting no flight issues on 2.00.0106 simply have NFI what they're talking about

[2017-07-27 00:41:29] goof : I put 2.00.0106 on my second bird and it's exactly the same as the first bird

[2017-07-27 00:41:31] martinbogo : No, it's entirely possible that DJI missed a condition by only attempting "clean" installs

[2017-07-27 00:41:52] martinbogo : I am leaving my P4P "pristine" right now .. never updated

[2017-07-27 00:42:05] martinbogo : I am also going to use @bin4ry's Go4 APK to fly with

[2017-07-27 01:13:08] bradleyds2 : Just got my P3P, I knew it'd be larger than the Spark, but I don't think I quite realised how much larger... A search shows me that there's no mods for the P3P other than the deejayeye, but there's issues with it on the P3P, is that right?

[2017-07-27 01:19:06] hostile : <https://github.com/mefistotelis/phantom-firmware-tools/issues>

[2017-07-27 01:19:10] hostile : outta do it for ya...

[2017-07-27 01:19:14] hostile : that is the **scene** for p3

[2017-07-27 01:21:11] bradleyds2 : Awesome, thanks!

[2017-07-27 02:59:09] bradleyds2 : Think I'll have to stay away from that for now, I have no idea how to use it, so it's best to play it safe. On the DJI download site for the P3P, I can see that there was a FW update at the start of this month. I'm planning on using Litchi, what should I do to prevent it forcing a FW update?

[2017-07-27 07:01:02] kyokushin : Use 1.7 AC 1.5RC and litchi for p3p or a. Its only one moddable fw.

[2017-07-27 07:01:33] kyokushin : Litchi is not enforcing updates.

[2017-07-27 07:02:29] kyokushin : You may also use older 2.x or 3.x app. It does not matter for P3

[2017-07-27 07:04:12] kyokushin : In fact on 1.7/1.5 users had no connection issues what they reported on higher version.

[2017-07-27 07:05:41] kyokushin : That version is really dji crap free.

[2017-07-27 07:08:07] kyokushin : And if you decide to use DJI Go, then block dji servers in host file or at firewall on your device.

[2017-07-27 11:06:04] bradleyds2 : Awesome, thanks for all the info!

[2017-07-27 11:58:21] hostile : @bradleyds2 the p3 is a different family that most of the work here FWIW. most of us on p4 family... Spark, Mavic, i2, p4

[2017-07-27 11:58:38] hostile : p3 is really a **different** scene

[2017-07-27 16:24:58] bradleyds2 : I've realised that now, sorry for being a bother.

[2017-07-27 16:27:07] hostile : its cool dude.

[2017-07-27 17:05:42] pure3d : @bradleyds2 as long as you don't flash your P4P with P4 firmware then ask 50 times how to fix it then be told 50 times to buy a replacement coreboard :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-27 18:00:07] hostile : lol and keep coming back with different aliases, but same root word in your email address. lol

[2017-07-27 18:20:57] pure3d : lol yeah don't do that either

[2017-07-28 00:29:40] bradleyds2 : Okay, I'll make sure I don't do that :joy: I feel bad that I have to keep asking new questions, and I'm certain that someone has asked them before, but I can't find the answer when I do a search.. I really appreciate the work all of you do, it's amazing that you have the skills to do everything you do, and you're kind enough to release everything to the community and even provide a guide for people who have no idea what they're doing (myself included). Thanks :relaxed:

[2017-07-28 00:37:14] hostile : @bradleyds2 " but I can't find the answer when I do a search.." sometimes that is to encourage you to man up and learn / try

[2017-07-28 00:37:37] hostile : its ok... as long as you can handle a bit of razzing

[2017-07-28 00:41:37] bradleyds2 : If you guys are helping me out, I can easily deal with a bit of razzing :)

[2017-07-28 00:43:03] hostile : what exactly are you stuck on ?

[2017-07-28 00:44:47] jezzab : Hes Spark and P3P'in

[2017-07-28 00:49:46] hostile : I've got Spark.... p3p is all a different crowd

[2017-07-28 00:51:04] bradleyds2 : Yep, I found that out very quickly. You were actually the one who linked me to the stuff for the P3P, up about 10 messages.

[2017-07-28 00:51:52] hostile : if you get stuck on Spark let me know...

[2017-07-28 00:52:05] hostile : I have some P3's here, but all I really know is from that git link

[2017-07-28 00:52:16] hostile : that seems to be where everyone in that scene hangs out

[2017-07-28 00:58:04] bradleyds2 : Okay, will do, thanks :) I'm going to be doing a lot of reading up on that link, I'd rather experiment with my P3P than my spark at the moment. I'm also lurking around here all the time, trying to gain new knowledge for the Spark, but it takes a serious long time to read every message when I wake up in the morning, still trying to read everything in ~general at the moment.

[2017-07-28 01:51:28] jezzab : Hmm new EFTPOS machine. I have to hold *O* to turn it on and hold *I* to turn it off.

[2017-07-28 01:51:51] jezzab : I think someone in design was confused with binary

[2017-07-28 04:48:56] bradleyds2 : Anywhere in Australia (preferably Canberra) that would repair a P3P? My spark went haywire and flew away and crashed into a tree, tried using the P3P to see where in the tree it was, the props hit a branch and it came crashing down, camera came off as well. Looks like only a ribbon cable broke.

[2017-07-28 04:58:00] gcbrent : Now that's bad luck!!!

[2017-07-28 04:58:06] gcbrent : Hope you got your sparky back!

[2017-07-28 05:10:54] hans112 : @bradleyds2 you managed to actually f*ck up two drones in one day? While flying them ?

[2017-07-28 05:11:03] hans112 : Man....

[2017-07-28 05:14:36] pure3d : it's like breaking down on the side of the road then when the service truck comes to help you, it breaks down too

[2017-07-28 05:14:55] pure3d : sorry you had to go through that @bradleyds2

[2017-07-28 05:15:02] hans112 : Hehehe yes, something like that

[2017-07-28 05:19:32] bradleyds2 : I seriously have no idea how I managed it... The sparky was two streets away then said it was having magnetic interference and I lost control and it flew at 50km/h. Luckily it landed in a tree just behind my house, only way I could tell is I could see my pool and solar panels. Managed to recover the spark eventually, looks like it'll just need new props. The P3P... Not so much. I really need to know where I can get repairs done that won't cost the same price as a new one though, the only damage is the ribbon cable and maybe replace the props, but I have spare props.

[2017-07-28 05:21:36] hans112 : Can't you order the ribbon cable online ? @the_lord might be able to help you

[2017-07-28 05:22:15] hans112 : Oh, and again..... 2 drones while flying ? :scream:

[2017-07-28 05:23:04] bradleyds2 : I'd be more than willing to do the repairs if I know how, or even if I don't, I'd be willing to take it apart and find out.

[2017-07-28 05:38:51] jezzab : [www.riseabove.com.au](http://www.riseabove.com.au)?

[2017-07-28 06:01:59] the_lord : @bradleyds2 <http://www.riseabove.com.au/dji-phantom-3-flexible-gimbal-flat-ribbon-cable-pa> and its not hard to replace it urself

[2017-07-28 06:03:50] the_lord : but since your gimbal roll motor snipped off its better to send the camera for local repair center coz motor may need to be replaced

[2017-07-28 06:03:51] bradleyds2 : Awesome, thanks for the link! I have two other questions, how do I stick it to the craft, is there a special glue? And do you know what tools will be needed to disassemble, or should I just buy several and find out?

[2017-07-28 06:04:16] bradleyds2 : Ah, okay. Any idea how much that would cost?

[2017-07-28 06:04:22] the_lord : its not easy to explain it by writing

[2017-07-28 06:04:32] the_lord : better to watch youtube videos

[2017-07-28 06:04:39] the_lord : you'll find many

[2017-07-28 06:04:56] pure3d : when you take it apart, you may be able to tell if they used any adhesives to hold down the cable

[2017-07-28 06:05:10] pure3d : familiarize yourself with how different connectors work with ribbon cables

[2017-07-28 06:05:21] bradleyds2 : It looks like they did use adhesive, it's definitely stuck there.

[2017-07-28 06:05:22] pure3d : some of them require you to pull a brown tab back

[2017-07-28 06:05:40] pure3d : some uses a flip down tab to press the cable onto the pins

[2017-07-28 06:05:56] the_lord : if you put the arm back you'll feel its stuck because of the motor magnets

[2017-07-28 06:05:57] pure3d : some connectors, you just push the cable into

[2017-07-28 06:06:00] bradleyds2 : I've taken apart a few portable consoles, so I can replace ribbon cables mostly without issue.

[2017-07-28 06:06:22] bradleyds2 : Yep, I definitely felt that.

[2017-07-28 06:07:01] the_lord : you need also to align the motor shaft otherwise the horizon will be tilted

[2017-07-28 06:08:05] bradleyds2 : I think I'll just send in for repairs so I don't break anything else. Any experience with anywhere that does repairs in Aus?

[2017-07-28 06:11:25] the_lord : that shop seams legit they have all spare parts

[2017-07-28 06:12:34] bradleyds2 : Can't find the link to repairs on it though, maybe I need new glasses.

[2017-07-28 06:13:57] the_lord : i'm looking too and didn't find it :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-28 06:17:42] the_lord : just give them a call PH: (02) 4647 3450

[2017-07-28 06:18:04] bradleyds2 : Okay, will do shortly, thanks!

[2017-07-28 06:28:10] bradleyds2 : Gave them a call, they said they offer repairs. I'll have to send it in and get a $40 assessment.

[2017-07-28 08:14:37] bradleyds2 : Turns out even though they said on the phone it was 40, it's actually 55.

[2017-07-28 08:29:05] the_lord : :open_mouth:

[2017-07-28 08:29:11] jezzab : AUD

[2017-07-28 08:29:21] the_lord : why its that expensive

[2017-07-28 08:29:59] the_lord : 55$ assessment for replacing 45$ part + labor ??

[2017-07-28 08:31:19] jezzab : 59 AUD for the part but yeah

[2017-07-28 08:31:59] jezzab : Just do it yourself then @bradleyds2

[2017-07-28 08:34:37] jezzab : I'm sure @the_lord could walk you thru it if you got stuck with the youtube videos. He's an authorised DJi repairer from memory

[2017-07-28 11:37:01] bradleyds2 : I think I might end up replacing it myself, I watched some videos (fell asleep during the last one though, so might need to reward it :P) and it seems simple enough. As for the crash, I uploaded it to YouTube for anyone that wants to watch. <https://youtu.be/u705Lx6WCZU> Around the 30 second mark I lost control and it almost went onto the neighbours house, that should have been a huge sign that something was wrong. Control is lost at around 1:50 It complained about magnetic interference, which is strange since I've only been flying it in this area recently and haven't had any problems. This was the first flight I forgot to calibrate the compass though... I was flying it since a friend was visiting, and I was going to help them find their way over. You can see that they did, at 2:05 in the bottom left corner. It crashed directly behind my house, luckily. I think it tried to return to home, but when it complained about magnetic interference the GPS turned off completely, so I don't think it knew when to stop. The speed it travelled at is unusual though. As for anything else of note: It told me to update my firmware at the start of the flight I was using a modded app with deejayeye-modder Phone is a OnePlus 3 that was connected with a USB type C connected to a micro USB OTG cable I know I shouldn't have been flying near houses, but I've never experience problems like this before, but now I know to expect the unexpected and take extra precautions. Any idea how I should react in future if something similar happens?

[2017-07-28 13:05:26] gcbrent : seems like mag interference has caused most of the crashes

[2017-07-28 17:26:06] asoka : ahhh the slack app for windows is getting over my nerves....I just try to keep with what was written today here and every time when someone write in the channel the page in slack will jump close to last messages and I need to scoll again up and at the time I get to the unread messages someone again typing and I am thrown at the bottom again :rage: any settings for that to not happen? :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-07-28 17:26:41] hostile : use the web interface?

[2017-07-28 17:29:13] asoka : will do, tx....hope that will behave more nice because already my headache get stronger...scrolling and scrolling in vain :smile:

[2017-07-28 17:35:59] pure3d : @asoka browser version works wayyy better

[2017-07-30 23:20:49] pure3d : Beautiful! Where is it?

[2017-07-30 23:21:07] czokie : Georges River

[2017-07-30 23:21:17] czokie : Sydney

[2017-07-31 02:20:43] bradleyds2 : Definitely doing the repairs myself, I should be getting a quote for the parts soon (Rise Above require a quote if you want shipping insurance). Rise Above also gave me an estimated cost for repairs. "You will probably need to replace yaw arm, roll arm and motor, ribbon cable and it would cost around $400 labor included."

[2017-07-31 02:44:10] pure3d : That's high

[2017-07-31 02:52:38] jezzab : @bradleyds2 do you have the video of the P3P recoverin the Spark?

[2017-08-01 03:39:55] bradleyds2 : Nope, wish I did but at the time I didn't see any need to record.

[2017-08-01 15:07:00] rdm : I wish I could fly that high...

[2017-08-01 15:08:24] rdm : Being in a city with 6 airports in 40 miles makes flying anything above 100 feet a complete recipe for disaster. Even though I have the no height restriction mod on, I refuse to take it close to "high" unless im out in the boonies and after opening up flightradar24 to make **absolutely sure** no planes will be in my area within my flight time

[2017-08-01 15:09:09] rdm : usually i zip around at 50 feet or so, just above most trees

[2017-08-01 15:10:10] rdm : and by boonies i mean at least 200 miles from my city

[2017-08-01 19:26:00] zapf : we have super cool helicopters that love to fly at or below even powerline level at times, right over the farm

[2017-08-02 13:17:42] bin4ry : question to all of you, a bit offtopic. what do you think about the Bitcoin Cash hardfork? keep or sell ?

[2017-08-02 13:30:29] hostile : you can move your Bitcoin Wallet to Bitcoin Cash later IF you want... and straddle both

[2017-08-02 13:30:32] hostile : non event IMHO

[2017-08-02 13:34:08] bin4ry : Yah I have both now. Just wanted to get more opinions of bch will die or not or btc will die or whatever :grin:

[2017-08-02 14:56:49] kilrah : thing is some major players have announced they wouldn't support bitcoin cash

[2017-08-02 17:37:36] bin4ry : i run electrum, i did run multibit classic before, but a spv client is "good" enough i think. atleast i have the private keys so i can do what i like and if needed one could setup a full node too on a 2nd machine. would never let my coins on a external exchange. too paranoid :smile:

[2017-08-02 17:46:59] hotelzululima : problem is the damn block chain too large for a 65gb microsd… :slightly_smiling_face: glad 128gb microsd now there but blockchain is growing rapidly.. moving all to a rpi3 or xu4/C2 soon

[2017-08-02 17:55:13] bin4ry : for me the spv client is enough as long as i have the private keys. you can always run the full node if needed, but i get what you mean i stopped now swithcing to a full node again becasue it just got too large :smile: :smile: :smile:

[2017-08-02 17:55:37] bin4ry : i like MB classic, but i had hard times to get my money transferred since it had this fucking low tx charge limits :smile:

[2017-08-02 17:57:18] hotelzululima : yeh when that happens I learned this trick to force a double spend out of my wallet that invalidates BOTH transactions within a day or so so I can resubmit with a higher TX fee.. dont know if it works anymore.. been a year since I pulled it

[2017-08-02 18:04:30] bin4ry : i see, well i was able to get the last money out of it a month ago. had to wait for 2 weeks but it came out eventually :wink:

[2017-08-02 18:10:15] martinbogo : @hotelzululima / @bin4ry : The "Double transaction" has been solved for BitCash ( they aren't stupid .. just a bit naive )

[2017-08-02 18:10:27] martinbogo : If you do that, both wallets will be credited for 0.5 of the transaction

[2017-08-02 18:10:49] hotelzululima : ouch

[2017-08-02 18:10:50] martinbogo : if you split the transaction further, then the wallets get credited for 1/n-th of the transaction

[2017-08-02 18:11:20] martinbogo : cross-chain transactions will get reconciled

[2017-08-02 18:11:38] hotelzululima : this was NOT about bitcoin cash.. it was purely about invalidating bitcoin tx with to low of a TX fee,…

[2017-08-02 18:12:09] bin4ry : in before i wanted to make that i have access to both systems in case on drops badly :wink:

[2017-08-02 18:12:33] bin4ry : yeah, i was lucky that i got my coins out of multibit and not needed to use a doublespend trick to invalidate it

[2017-08-02 18:14:02] hotelzululima : @martinbogo most of the cryptocash mint or mintless systems have similiar properties since chaum(87) if they have not split into 2 currencies like ether or bitcoin

[2017-08-02 18:15:09] martinbogo : Yep .. bitcoin cash is still having an 'interesting' start -- up to about $700 today, but CoinBase refuses to allow it's wallets to participate

[2017-08-02 18:15:34] hotelzululima : webwallets == watering hole

[2017-08-02 18:15:34] martinbogo : I have a stock of Casacius bitcoins .. I'm wondering if their blockchain value on Bitcoin Cash is going to be similar

[2017-08-02 18:18:51] bin4ry : webwallets ... they all get robbed sometime eventually or run away with your money :smile: if my money gets stolen from my wallet here it is my own fault not someone elses.

[2017-08-02 18:22:14] bin4ry : also i transferred my btc to a new wallet and will take a look with my "old" priv keys for the btc tomorrow. better safe then sorry

[2017-08-02 18:27:50] pure3d : I made $3.24 trading ETH lol

[2017-08-02 18:28:18] pure3d : should have held on to them at $199.17

[2017-08-02 18:32:00] bin4ry : :joy:

[2017-08-02 18:32:41] pure3d : my analysis tells me to do one thing

[2017-08-02 18:32:55] pure3d : my emotions say "OMG you better sell before you lose all your $$$"

[2017-08-02 18:46:03] bin4ry : I see that stuff as a long-term investment generally. Only for bch I am unsure and ofc play with the idea to sell them but btc I will hold for sure

[2017-08-02 18:56:47] martinbogo : Indeed...

[2017-08-02 18:56:58] martinbogo : Back ~2010, I mined about 820 bitcoin

[2017-08-02 18:57:25] martinbogo : Now, I'm not going to beat myself up for _spending_ that coin ... to be quite frank, buying things with bitcoin >allowed< it to gain value

[2017-08-02 18:57:43] martinbogo : but I think it's fair to say that even holding onto a few of them ( which I did ) was a good move.

[2017-08-02 18:58:13] martinbogo : Still, makes me wish I held onto 100's rather than 10's

[2017-08-02 19:05:40] bin4ry : Oh wow. Yeah don't cry after them. One is always wiser when it's too late. I did not had this much but I did also spend what I had pretty much. That's life :wink: we stay with what we have now and hope it gains more value until and more and more :grinning:

[2017-08-02 19:08:46] kilrah : wow is BTC really that high now?

[2017-08-02 19:08:49] kilrah : crazy

[2017-08-02 19:09:11] kilrah : remember hearing about unusual low not that long ago

[2017-08-02 19:16:25] martinbogo : @kilrah : BTC hit 3000 last month, hovering around $2700 now

[2017-08-02 19:16:36] martinbogo : Bitcoin Cash hit ~700 or so, slumped slightly

[2017-08-02 19:16:46] kilrah : yeah insane

[2017-08-02 19:18:06] kilrah : a few months ago it was about 800

[2017-08-02 19:18:14] martinbogo : Longer than that :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-02 19:18:57] martinbogo : Started the year at $1000, had a brief dip, then a takeoff

[2017-08-02 19:19:30] martinbogo : I **fully** expect that 1BTC will hit $100,000 per coin by 2025

[2017-08-02 19:47:17] guest : Guys.. I'm still alive... At the moment hiding for the wind (storm) in a small harbor at Schiermonnikoog. When weather permits I'll be on my way to Helgoland. Please do not forget me! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[2017-08-02 19:49:18] martinbogo : We won't :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-02 19:49:55] martinbogo : Bleiben Sie sicher und haben Sie Spaß.

[2017-08-02 19:59:51] hans112 : Hehehe success daar

[2017-08-02 20:02:07] guest : will do..

[2017-08-02 20:11:58] solution : Enjoy Helgoland

[2017-08-02 22:05:31] guson : New law in place as of Aug 01 in Sweden: for hobby usage no license or approval is needed for flying a drone. However should you film ppl so they are recognizable (flying low over a beach etc) , you need their permission or they can call the police on you. Second part is max altitude is 122m and 500m away and always with LOS. Needing more distance, apply for a license. NFZ is of course no go. Some fuckups flew inside 2 airports yesterday and both were closed down temporarily. Why doesn't ppl use their brains more...

[2017-08-02 23:13:04] rdm : I dont really understand calling the police with filming...you can blur out in postprocessing...

[2017-08-02 23:32:14] martinbogo : It's a Swedish thing. Norway doesn't give a rats patootle about filming in a public space.

[2017-08-02 23:32:23] martinbogo : They care very VERY much about filming in private ones :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-03 01:01:29] rdm : I can just imagine walking around in say Cancun and asking all 100,000 people on the beach for permission to fly my drone

[2017-08-03 01:01:49] rdm : and by "imagine" i can imagine saying fuck that.

[2017-08-03 01:02:10] rdm : they might have well just have added a low flight restriction.

[2017-08-03 06:41:54] guson : good thing is that Sweden will adapt to EU laws for drones next year. then it will be even better and not this confusing with "asking permission". :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-03 07:07:47] rdm : Yeah because "asking permission" sounds like a fucking nightmare when people are constantly leaving and arriving at a beach.

[2017-08-03 08:07:49] hans112 : :joy:

[2017-08-03 16:28:02] guson : Haha yes but swedish laws are always designed to protect the integrity of the individual, and then you end up with something like this :)

[2017-08-03 16:28:54] bin4ry : which is not wrong in the first place

[2017-08-03 16:29:01] bin4ry : we have it similar here

[2017-08-03 16:29:08] bin4ry : but to one extend

[2017-08-03 16:29:35] bin4ry : if you are in a group of people and clearly not the subject of a photo you cannot claim your personal rights being abused

[2017-08-03 16:29:43] bin4ry : *and at a public place

[2017-08-03 16:30:21] bin4ry : like this better than the swedish version :smile:

[2017-08-03 16:44:40] kilrah : yup, same here

[2017-08-04 00:02:29] rdm : I prefer Americas laws generally speaking "if you're in public, deal with it"

[2017-08-04 00:02:54] rdm : Of course some people may get pissy and throw a fit

[2017-08-04 00:03:00] rdm : But they can't legally do anything

[2017-08-04 00:03:57] rdm : And anything they do do, the police will be on your side unless its obvious harassment, or the cop is a giant dick. In which case you just call their local line and ask to talk to a superior.

[2017-08-04 00:16:39] czokie : Simple premise here - If you are in public, you have no expectation of privacy. People have a right to use their cameras in public. As long as they are not "stalking" you, there is no expectation of privacy in a public place. (COMMON SENSE!)

[2017-08-04 01:32:41] rdm : Pretty much.

[2017-08-04 01:45:24] dpitman : cameras on rc aircraft are the exception, they are inherently evil...sarcasm.

[2017-08-04 07:14:59] guson : Last year a new drone law was in place here in Sweden which made drones with cameras fall into our law for surveillance equipment, meaning in effect flying a drone with a camera required licenses. Not even the tv studios, fire departments etc could fly as getting that license is very hard to get. The whole industry for drones here died in 2-3 weeks. This updated law since Aug01 puts drones with cameras in the same category as cellphones with a camera : really just think before you take a pic/video and you're good to go. To clarify filming a beach: if you fly very close so faces can be identified - you can do it but if someone shouts their right to privacy out : you need to obey :)

[2017-08-04 22:08:20] rdm : the problem with all of that @guson is that you cant really see faces from higher than 4-5 metres that well on dji drones

[2017-08-04 22:08:33] rdm : but people dont usually think about that

[2017-08-04 22:08:41] rdm : they think that someone is just spying on them

[2017-08-04 22:08:48] rdm : no matter how far up

[2017-08-04 22:09:28] rdm : they think its like a mil-spec drone that can see faces from a couple hundred feet up

[2017-08-04 22:09:34] rdm : which is pretty stupid but well..

[2017-08-04 22:11:24] fallengod : Hmm i wonder how feasable is it do do a zoom lens for the mavic ?

[2017-08-04 22:39:08] rdm : id be damn careful on it. that gimbal isnt exactly industrial strength...but feasible...yeah.

[2017-08-05 12:10:14] czokie : Watching Snowden with family. They are getting freaked out.

[2017-08-05 12:24:40] d95gas : That is a dam good film, really loved it.... enjoy

[2017-08-05 12:40:46] jezzab : If the CIA wants to listen to me screaming at the dog he's a sick bastard for eating the cats turds out of the litter box thru my Google Home, they can go for it.

[2017-08-05 13:10:26] hans112 : Since you have nothing to hide?:thinking_face:

[2017-08-05 13:10:53] jezzab : Yeah lol probably the most action going on around at my joint

[2017-08-05 13:13:43] hans112 : We all have something to hide .... It makes us who we are :relieved:

[2017-08-05 13:37:22] oanerm : @

[2017-08-05 13:38:30] goof : <http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/010/566/060.png>

[2017-08-06 19:01:08] guson : haha. priceless. I should hand out those on the beach to whoever wishes to not be in my movies :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-07 13:09:06] guest : I'm still alive. At the moment in Heligoland. Next stop Cuxhaven. Do not forget me.

[2017-08-08 02:18:41] coldflake : Yeah he was on our live chat 5 fucking time asking the same dumb shit. We are two running the live chat and the idiot thought that if he kept on long enough someone would parachute in to fix it for him. Finally i lost my temper with him and told him to buy a key or piss off. What an annoying retard!

[2017-08-08 02:47:22] jezzab : You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink

[2017-08-08 04:28:18] pure3d : lol

[2017-08-08 10:01:08] czokie : Anyone in Australia ... <http://techau.com.au/the-abc-got-special-casa-approval-to-use-drones-in-parliament-house/>

[2017-08-08 10:01:33] czokie : Show starts in a minute or two - Inspire 1 filming in Parliament House in Australia

[2017-08-08 10:08:31] kilrah : "The drone of choice was a DJI Inspire 1 which they say opened up a whole world of filming possibilities." Makes perfect sense that all photos are of an I2 then :joy:

[2017-08-08 10:08:46] czokie : I laughed at that too

[2017-08-08 10:41:26] goof : ```the crew reportedly spent years planning the execution, followed by constant meetings and completed all of the necessary paperwork to make it a reality.``` I would **_hate_** to be the one drafting all those procedures X__X

[2017-08-09 13:01:05] goof : Think it's an old version.... they have a busted arse dirt strip as a NFZ, never mind the FIFO traffic from once of the largest underground mines in Australia to the west......

[2017-08-09 13:12:23] jezzab : Interesting my Mav RC says NFZ but I can arm and I'm not near a NFZ and says Limit Reached check MC but doesn't stop it,

[2017-08-09 13:13:10] goof : I think they have provision for warning - only NFZ

[2017-08-09 13:13:27] jezzab : But then again I'm running a modded apk, the AC has been activated offline and I've never imported the NFZ dab when it's asked to update on Assistsnt

[2017-08-09 13:13:37] goof : if you unlock your height it'll say limit reached as you take off, at least on the P4

[2017-08-09 13:14:21] jezzab : Yeah it does that on my P4 come to think of it but thought it did it around 30m

[2017-08-09 13:14:54] jezzab : Maybe I'm just nit used to the remote and its feedback

[2017-08-09 13:15:41] goof : is 27th May the last NFZ update?

[2017-08-09 13:15:44] jezzab : Can't zoom in on SE VIC a bit on that map

[2017-08-09 13:15:52] goof : that's all it'll update me to in the app

[2017-08-09 13:15:55] jezzab : I'm not sure

[2017-08-09 13:16:36] jezzab : The CASA app is useless

[2017-08-09 13:16:52] jezzab : Why hav an app with no legend??

[2017-08-09 13:16:58] goof : lol xD

[2017-08-09 13:17:39] jezzab : A few nearish me say they are unregistered etc

[2017-08-09 13:18:30] jezzab : And a whole suburb has a yellow box I think it was

[2017-08-09 13:18:46] goof : those air ambulance helipads around Warrnambool are the latest change I can find in the database, 27th May this year

[2017-08-09 13:18:48] goof : hmm

[2017-08-09 13:18:57] goof : some of these have warning flags

[2017-08-09 13:19:02] goof : might map them seperately

[2017-08-09 13:19:22] goof : they have a radius with them, not sure how to map that with google

[2017-08-09 13:28:35] jezzab : Had a good fly of the Mav today. Wow Occusync smashed my P4. My test spot I try everything on which is pretty noisy and I usually have to readjust the angle of the P4 remote when the signs, gets low didn't happen at all with the Mav remote

[2017-08-09 13:28:43] jezzab : Both on FCC too

[2017-08-09 13:29:29] jezzab : I do like the cam on the P4 better though but need some ND filters to truely compare. AWB blows and not using Dlog

[2017-08-09 13:30:00] jezzab : Nice not seeing the props at full pelt in Sport with some big tilt mods too lol

[2017-08-09 13:30:21] goof : does the mavic FoV fit between the props?

[2017-08-09 13:31:50] jezzab : I'm not truely sure, I have to test more but I've never seen props in the vid. I did tilt down a far bit so the sky wouldn't blow out the vid and awb. But one quick straight runs it didn't show props

[2017-08-09 13:31:59] jezzab : I was very surprised

[2017-08-09 13:32:55] jezzab : But looking straight down and full speed around 75kmh+ the video got choppy in spots

[2017-08-09 13:33:20] goof : EMF from the motor wires or just antenna tilt?

[2017-08-09 13:33:54] jezzab : Plus the cam seems to pickup lens flares/artifacts a lot. But this is in full auto video

[2017-08-09 13:33:58] jezzab : I dunno

[2017-08-09 13:34:18] goof : yeah full auto on the P4 can be a bit...odd

[2017-08-09 13:34:56] jezzab : Yeah the auto on the P4 is probably the same, I need to test with NDs and Dlog on the Mav

[2017-08-09 13:36:02] jezzab : Just switching awb, blown out colours like the wizard of oz lol

[2017-08-09 13:36:20] jezzab : Or Charlie and the chocolate factory

[2017-08-09 13:36:30] jezzab : But the choppy thing was interesting

[2017-08-09 13:37:03] jezzab : Never had that in P4. But only when straight down on the gimbal and full speed, 50 tilt

[2017-08-09 13:37:09] jezzab : Occasionally

[2017-08-09 13:37:26] goof : I get it on the P4 if I'm waaaay out

[2017-08-09 13:37:35] goof : and I turn so the wrong antenna is facing me

[2017-08-09 13:37:56] jezzab : Then again I'm usually 50 not 30 and ISO 100

[2017-08-09 13:37:58] goof : normally have to slowly yaw until I get video back

[2017-08-09 13:38:10] jezzab : Ah k.

[2017-08-09 13:38:27] goof : normally my cue to hit RTH to bring it back into video range :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-08-09 13:38:36] jezzab : Haha

[2017-08-09 13:38:56] goof : looking into upgrades as far as camera goes

[2017-08-09 13:39:13] goof : doesn't seem to be much between here and the X5S on the inspire

[2017-08-09 13:39:32] goof : even something like the S1000 with a DSLR is only 16-17MP

[2017-08-09 13:39:34] jezzab : Wish I could get P4P cam on the P4

[2017-08-09 13:39:38] goof : yeah

[2017-08-09 13:39:49] goof : apparently it's only a 15MP though

[2017-08-09 13:40:27] goof : the camera crops out the vignetting and upscales the middle 15MP up to the specified 20MP that DJI boast

[2017-08-09 13:40:35] goof : :cry:

[2017-08-09 13:41:02] jezzab : All about sensor size, stuff MP. Hence why I like my Canon 5D mk2 over my D600. But both take. Decent pic. Just the 5D is always richer

[2017-08-09 13:41:13] jezzab : Ahh

[2017-08-09 13:41:15] jezzab : Lol

[2017-08-09 13:41:25] goof : well inspire wins anyway on sensor size

[2017-08-09 13:42:14] goof : custom stuff under 20K that I've been able to find is all M4/3

[2017-08-09 13:43:37] jezzab : Think I'll just have to live with it lol. I just have to get used to the Mav and get it to where I like it with the P4. Not like I do it Pro but it's nice to be happy after you color grade it

[2017-08-09 13:47:22] kilrah : that’s significantly better than any phantom anyway

[2017-08-09 13:47:46] jezzab : Yeah I used to lots of props, especially modded with my P4 lol

[2017-08-09 13:47:56] kilrah : lol

[2017-08-09 13:47:57] jezzab : So I never use sports filming

[2017-08-09 13:48:09] jezzab : Annoying

[2017-08-09 13:48:20] kilrah : I have my Mav tuned to 10km/h more than sports and its still good

[2017-08-09 13:48:41] goof : landing gear annoys me more than props, none of that on an inspire or the mavic :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-09 13:48:47] jezzab : I've got it set to 50 tilt on the Mav and never saw props.

[2017-08-09 13:49:08] jezzab : It's a little pain the Mav is so low but not that bad

[2017-08-09 13:49:28] jezzab : Nice to land the P4 in grass. Now I have to think about it in the mav

[2017-08-09 13:49:36] jezzab : Haven't tried to hand catch it yet

[2017-08-09 13:49:47] jezzab : P4 is great fir that

[2017-08-09 13:49:52] goof : yep :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-09 13:50:01] goof : especially here where it's so dusty

[2017-08-09 13:50:09] jezzab : Yup snd the beach

[2017-08-09 13:50:44] jezzab : I can't hand launch alone unless I buy a strap for the RC but I don't want to lol

[2017-08-09 13:50:46] kilrah : been hand catching a lot these past days

[2017-08-09 13:50:52] jezzab : They don't make them for men

[2017-08-09 13:51:14] jezzab : Sorry if someone here has one lol

[2017-08-09 13:51:18] goof : the P4 strap is too far down

[2017-08-09 13:51:29] goof : with an ipad it just falls over backwards

[2017-08-09 13:51:40] jezzab : Eeew

[2017-08-09 13:52:18] jezzab : The Mav is sooo quiet hovering compared to the P4

[2017-08-09 13:52:29] jezzab : There is things I love and hate about both

[2017-08-09 13:52:46] jezzab : But the Mav definitely has a lot of pros. I'm surprised

[2017-08-09 13:53:58] jezzab : Very nice

[2017-08-09 13:54:04] kilrah : had to hand catch there in the rocks lol

[2017-08-09 13:54:35] jezzab : Good idea lol

[2017-08-09 13:57:07] jezzab : Any tips on the best place to hand catch the Mav? Read up the front near the cam when it's skinnier

[2017-08-09 13:57:38] jezzab : Oh and the Landing Protection off.... soo much better now

[2017-08-09 13:58:03] jezzab : And wow the motors turn off quick on landing/shutoff compared to p4

[2017-08-09 13:58:16] jezzab : Just little things I've noticed

[2017-08-09 13:59:10] goof : IIRC that's a parameter

[2017-08-09 13:59:16] jezzab : Ahhh

[2017-08-09 13:59:31] jezzab : Would be nice to apply it to the p4

[2017-08-09 14:00:05] goof : ` g_config_rc_stop_motor_verify_time_ms`

[2017-08-09 14:00:06] jezzab : I have had it once windy and on the ground holding it down to shut off and it was bobbing a bit

[2017-08-09 14:00:18] jezzab : Awesome!

[2017-08-09 14:00:30] goof : yeah and trying to do the CSC in those conditions is only more likely to tip it

[2017-08-09 14:00:48] jezzab : It's was close. There was an arse pucker

[2017-08-09 14:01:27] goof : I haven't tested that one yet, would good to set very low for safer hand catching

[2017-08-09 14:02:18] goof : shortens the window in which an errant movement prolongs the shutdown timer

[2017-08-09 14:02:27] jezzab : I might compare Mav to P4

[2017-08-09 14:02:55] goof : might be a FW change, I think mav was longer than P4 at one point

[2017-08-09 14:03:02] jezzab : It's like Mav is 500ms vs 1000 or 1500

[2017-08-09 14:03:27] goof : yeah it feels like 1500ish on the P4

[2017-08-09 14:03:57] goof : not sure how low one could go

[2017-08-09 14:04:16] jezzab : Not sure of the pitfalls on that one

[2017-08-09 14:04:50] goof : presumably you could go down to 100ish, so it turns off the moment it's still, but individual milage may vary on that one

[2017-08-09 14:05:06] goof : also not sure if there's a minimum on the parameter

[2017-08-09 14:05:21] jezzab : I'd be happy with Mav timing, it feeeeels like around 500 ish

[2017-08-09 14:05:49] jezzab : Or 500 - 1000 somehwre

[2017-08-09 14:06:10] jezzab : It's substantially quicker. Blew me away the first time

[2017-08-09 14:07:16] jezzab : Just funny they are so similar architecture but so different in things

[2017-08-09 16:15:40] pure3d : I have a brand new battery that when finished charging, gives me the 2nd LED blinking 2 times per second (2nd LED from the left with the power button pointing to the right side); the manual says this is an "over current warning"

[2017-08-09 16:15:50] pure3d : I've had it happen 3 times already

[2017-08-09 16:16:41] pure3d : the butt of the battery is very slightly round, whereas my other 2 batteries (also brand new) are flat

[2017-08-09 17:34:27] blade-strike : Are you using the stock charger? This error usually get thrown when a charger is outputting more than it should. If the other batteries are ok I would try to cycle this one a few times if you can. Otherwise contact support for a replacement

[2017-08-09 17:41:14] pure3d : stock charger or 3rd party charger gives same error

[2017-08-09 18:37:51] blade-strike : Sounds like a bad battery tbh

[2017-08-09 21:00:14] pure3d : DJI support agrees--just got them to give me an RMA#

[2017-08-09 21:00:23] pure3d : once I get the shipping label, the battery is being sent back to them

[2017-08-09 21:00:35] pure3d : I find it hilarious that this form they want me to fill out says to not send any "bad" batteries back

[2017-08-09 21:07:04] kilrah : Indeed lol

[2017-08-11 10:47:27] goof : necessity is the mother of invention...... or at least cheeky mods and bad dremel work: <https://imgur.com/a/0ej8d>

[2017-08-11 20:12:08] tomknock : Hi all

[2017-08-11 20:13:12] ender : hi :wink:

[2017-08-11 22:54:13] hotelzululima : And we think WE have involuntary update issues with DJI?? feel sorry for these folks -> update to lock’s code gets a lot of folk <https://twitter.com/coffeereview/status/894997284479356928>

[2017-08-12 06:11:50] kilrah : lolz

[2017-08-12 10:19:33] ender : hahaha

[2017-08-12 13:14:30] ender : Oh completely Off Topic but IMO Noteworthy, i found this little gem thinking about why its so hard to trust others nowadays. IF you look at this par-excellence example of allplied game-theory, take your time, it deserves it :wink:

[2017-08-12 13:14:31] ender : <http://ncase.me/trust/>

[2017-08-12 13:53:42] opcode : Very cute

[2017-08-12 20:02:56] ender : AND some grains of truth in it…

[2017-08-12 20:59:57] pure3d : It keeps going back to that WWI Christmas example

[2017-08-12 21:00:03] pure3d : in other words, it predicts the past

[2017-08-12 21:00:37] pure3d : I'd like to see it predict the future (.e.g NK/China/Russian vs US/SK/Japan situation)

[2017-08-12 21:34:42] ender : nope, it presents facts from the WWI example as it shows reactions in an extreme situation but if you take the time and read whats written later it tries to communicate why the situation TODAY is so much different. Its not a crystal ball, its a cute example of game-theory, dont expect too much :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-13 01:20:56] czokie : P4P. Today. First flight. Battery was dropping fast and felt uncomfortable coming home but made it ok. It is stressful to me when I am over water. Noticed small hairline crack on rear of frame near battery compartment after a flight. No collision and did hand catch. Not sure where it came from. Was planning a flight test with another battery and iPad. I usually use iPhone. Before next flight it asked to recalibrate vision positioning. I did so. Map not working on iPad. But able to fly ok. Now doing deep discharge for batteries. Not my day.

[2017-08-13 08:56:59] ender : czokie: is battery defective (blow-up, so thats where the cracks cone from) ?! Sounds bad…

[2017-08-13 08:58:43] czokie : Battery size is normal...

[2017-08-13 08:59:04] czokie : Battery (and p4p) is only a couple of months old....

[2017-08-13 18:11:14] opcode : <http://forum.dji.com/thread-108628-1-1.html>

[2017-08-13 18:11:22] opcode : Lol

[2017-08-13 18:41:01] kilrah : pretty sad that there are morons who are so badly unable to understand anything about places they're visiting...

[2017-08-13 18:44:10] kilrah : yum, nice birthday present, pocket computer of the same age as me :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-13 18:44:41] ender : Absolutely rude to fly a drone that low over people (borderline to fly over people at all and forbidden in many countries, but THAT low its not only about the danger its also against all manners & rules of privacy).

[2017-08-13 18:44:54] ender : Good they got it :wink:

[2017-08-13 18:45:19] ender : @kilrah, but the pocket computer is still SHARP :wink:

[2017-08-13 18:46:03] hans112 : Very sharp indeed :joy:

[2017-08-13 18:46:20] kilrah : yeah and those people most likely have nowhere near an idea this is even something that can exist... :rage: must have been scared as hell

[2017-08-13 18:46:48] kilrah : yup excellent condition, just had leaky NiCds inside... but that stayed contained to the battery compartment

[2017-08-13 18:47:24] kilrah : PCB above is the printer/cassette interface docking station, also had a leaky built-in NiCd and 2 leaky electrolytics

[2017-08-13 18:47:29] ender : youngsters, i used that one to cheat at school :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-13 18:48:44] kilrah : some disgusting decomposed gum thingy in the computer as well... seemed to serve no purpose too :smile:

[2017-08-15 12:11:40] jezzab : Dammit. These DJI brand Mavic ND filters look like that are going to last about 10 minutes. I didn't realise they were plastic frame.

[2017-08-15 13:42:24] umbr4 : @jezzab they seem flimsy but hold on well enough

[2017-08-15 15:19:18] pure3d : @jezzab they're el cheapo quality compared to the polarPro ones which are around $149USD

[2017-08-15 17:03:42] hotelzululima : indeed my ND8 already apart and lost.. BUT they weigh next to nothing.. so the gimbal motors dont complain..

[2017-08-15 18:25:54] kilrah : Been using mine for quite a while now - but yeah, need to be gentle with them. But they're better than the Tacos I also have, even if they're more solid they don't get used anymore.

[2017-08-21 20:41:11] versuher : in 30 min, lunar umbra and penumbra gonna start passing through continental USA. Anyone gonna make a footage of the event (total eclipse will last about a couple of minutes)?

[2017-08-22 18:17:58] jas.brooks : I'm getting bothered by the Mavic's shitty video compression codec more and more. Anyone noticed that when flying under fast-moving clouds, their shadows on the ground will tend to jerk, as if the intra frames are WAY too far apart? I imagine DJI didn't consider that frames sometimes change a helluva lot, wereas 90% of aerial footage is actually only changing very gradually. Any thoughts? Anyone found any code/parameters that refer to the video pipeline rather than just the flying parameters? Or am I asking in the wrong place? Cheers, jason

[2017-08-22 18:21:45] ender : **very** interesting, thats one of my goals too… LOADS of stuff that describes camera (video ? i do not know, maybe a parallel branch for video) is in the APK in dji.midware.data.P3.model --> DataCamera*

[2017-08-22 18:22:53] ender : so far i stay with 2,7k on Mavic, better resolution / bandwidth ratio, i prooved that with USAF Resolution Targets. Little lens can not resolve 4k anyways, so less sharpness pumping in 2,7k but not less Details. Bring down denoising & sharness, better do it in post, but you probably know :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-22 18:24:41] kilrah : ~~random is for typical off topic chitchat... ~~general or ~hardware for basic stuff.

[2017-08-22 18:25:05] kilrah : most likely this stuff is in camera firmware but that has not been tackled at all yet.

[2017-08-22 18:25:30] kilrah : and it kinda depends on things like being able to load modified firmware which isn't possible at this point anyway

[2017-08-22 18:26:55] ender : @kilrah: yes, things like bitrate are certainly in the camera.

[2017-08-22 18:27:12] ender : But maybe there are more degrees of freedom in the app as well that can be enabled or modded

[2017-08-22 18:28:42] ender : @jas.brooks: the best thing for mavic is that it has a separate camera module very similar to the GoPro4 /Yi4k and that you can telnet to it and mod it there. One would need help from those guys that mod Action cams to support more reolutions / bitrates / modes…

[2017-08-22 18:34:31] kyokushin : I am curious - maybe if not 4K, then 2.7k will be possible to bring to the Spark

[2017-08-22 18:35:10] kyokushin : DJI would be mad :joy:

[2017-08-22 18:35:15] jas.brooks : @ender: thanks for the info - I imagined someone must be thinking about the possibility at least. Didn't realise that the fiddling thus far hasn't extended to loading modified firmware, just changing parameters. Would be interesting for sure to see how deeply the app can adjust things in the camera/video pipeline. I would imagine that with all the camera settings, resolutions, and modes, there must be a few avenues to dig a little deeper into from that angle... I'm new to modding the Mavic full stop, but am fairly handy with code. Do let me know if you guys want help with anything specific. Cheers, jason

[2017-08-22 18:43:39] kilrah : There has been a lot more fiddling, jsut not _successful_ published fiddling about loading modified firmware.

[2017-08-22 21:47:31] kyokushin : Does DJI Assistant 2 is updating NFZ table when i connect a copter to it?

[2017-08-22 21:50:23] kilrah : it can, but asks and you can ignore

[2017-08-22 21:53:46] kyokushin : I am curious how it work in assistant - in dji go if you click 'ignore', then you cannot fly higher than 30m

[2017-08-22 21:55:38] kilrah : umm no that's not my experience

[2017-08-22 21:55:54] kilrah : the 30m limit is unrelated to nfz, it just wants a logged in app

[2017-08-22 21:56:20] kyokushin : I just talked with a folk who clicked 'ignore' on today NFZ update, then was not able to fly over 30m

[2017-08-22 21:57:29] kyokushin : he did it in DJI go, now i am thinking on disable internet access to assistant

[2017-08-22 22:04:58] kilrah : don't think it's related

[2017-08-22 22:05:21] kilrah : but then I don't have direct experience, I'm running 700 and the 30m thing only came in 800

[2017-08-22 22:14:16] kyokushin : Do You know when it comes to Spark?

[2017-08-22 22:14:46] kilrah : no

[2017-08-22 22:14:58] kilrah : never had the prompt so far with it

[2017-08-22 22:15:32] kyokushin : maybe its better to not click anything, just kill a process

[2017-08-23 15:26:14] haloweenhamster : Got a mavic and tried to Fe load 550 from 400 and it froze at 86% and bricked, sent it away and they want €500 to fix it, should I get it back and replace with a core board from a mavicpilots user $99 +p&p or just get them to repair? I'm in the UK. Are the boards plug & play ?

[2017-08-23 15:49:08] skywalk3r : @haloweenhamster post in general to get more replies.

[2017-08-23 15:54:20] ender : and please tell us there if bricked is really bricked… Or if there is a chance for our tools to work on it.

[2017-08-23 16:05:45] haloweenhamster : Unsure of the extent of the brickedness, dumbledore sees it on a com port, assistant doesn't see it and won't add manually, RC won't connect

[2017-08-23 16:32:51] kilrah : network interface/ftp up?

[2017-08-23 16:34:49] haloweenhamster : Nope

[2017-08-23 16:35:33] haloweenhamster : Com port on PC but no come via ftp

[2017-08-23 16:43:38] kyokushin : Maybe i am wrong because of lower outside temperature, but battery (only) on .600 in spark have lower temperature. Also when i just turn it on in the room, without flying, i think its a bit colder.

[2017-08-23 16:52:39] ender : @kyokushin Spark still on .300 or .400 ?

[2017-08-23 17:03:04] kyokushin : .300

[2017-08-23 17:04:16] kyokushin : made flights in sport mode, tested RTH, photo/video, braking, range, in overall that .300/.600/.100 set is working flawless. Not tested gestures because i am not using that at all.

[2017-08-23 17:11:51] ender : okay, how did you upgrade battery only ? I know people are doing it all the time but i havent gone there yet.

[2017-08-23 17:41:27] kvn : plug your spark to your computer and let assistant 2 do the job

[2017-08-23 17:41:45] kvn : Just upgraded FW to .600 and using a 4.1.5 I still get FCC enabled

[2017-08-23 17:44:37] kvn : RC is still in .100 tho... not sure if to ugrade or not

[2017-08-23 17:52:22] ender : @kvn: will assistant do that if sparky is on old FW ? IF we can do it with our tools i would prefer to keep Spark airgapped…

[2017-08-23 17:55:10] kvn : Ah no

[2017-08-23 17:55:38] kvn : sorry. I think only cherrypicker (never used it but read the general feed) will allow you to do so

[2017-08-23 17:59:36] ender : Nope, there was that other method kilrah stumbled over… kyokushin just tells me, will get to Wiki :-)+

[2017-08-23 17:59:47] ender : tells = spoon-feeds :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-23 18:01:43] kilrah : just take the bin and remove everything but the cfg and the fw's you want to flash

[2017-08-23 18:04:27] ender : yup, just git a summary, NOW i do remember, especially the right “rm” at the right place when getting version back to the rest OR not if wanting to pretend .600

[2017-08-23 18:04:51] ender : Will put it up on Wiki (both cherrypicking for dummies AND pretending version Number), okay ?

[2017-08-23 18:05:51] ender : Of course only pretty safe for batteries, mixing others components versions is still not safe as i understood from your experiences kilrah ?!

[2017-08-23 18:06:45] kyokushin : maybe prententing a version number will be better to reveal after 1/9 eventually

[2017-08-23 18:07:21] kyokushin : but not my decision :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-23 18:07:22] ender : yes, you have a point

[2017-08-23 18:07:39] ender : But DJI must be braindead not to read here anyways, right ?!

[2017-08-23 18:08:16] kyokushin : yepp, but when i am looking to dji go code i am thinking they are :smile:

[2017-08-23 18:08:19] ender : I wont post stuff until one of the OG says something about it…

[2017-08-23 18:08:33] kyokushin : yes, OG decide.

[2017-08-23 18:08:50] ender : awful code, i wont allow to be seen on the street if that was my code.

[2017-08-23 18:21:14] ender : @kilrah, any advantages of having that ? Did it fix your ESC ? SMART modes ?

[2017-08-23 18:21:14] kilrah : tried 1000 on mavic, downgrade android to 900, then fc to 700... that was very borked lol

[2017-08-23 18:21:28] kilrah : no esc upgrade on spark

[2017-08-23 18:21:36] kilrah : only flew inside...

[2017-08-23 18:21:51] kilrah : again got distracted today :smile:

[2017-08-23 18:22:20] ender : okay :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-23 18:23:13] kilrah : 1h phone call right at my "go out flying" time :smile:

[2017-08-23 18:24:43] ender : Usually followed by sudden rainfall, i know that feeling :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-23 18:25:05] kilrah : sudden nightfall :smile:

[2017-08-23 18:25:39] ender : Well that was … foreseeable :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-08-23 21:27:20] kyokushin : its worth to update only gimball to .600? I am on .300 at now and it working flawless. (spark)

[2017-08-24 01:43:34] kyokushin : <http://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=108591&pid=925748&fromuid=51556> dji arrogance pushed the limit

[2017-08-24 11:43:10] haloweenhamster : Had less response from general then here, I've asked for my drone back from repair and asked thunderdrones for a core board & gimbal roll motor back cover

[2017-08-24 11:46:29] haloweenhamster : Anyone done the 1.5w TX power? As I'm in the UK I'm on ce power and keep having signal dropouts, can the RC handle 1.5w long term as I think ce is 0.09w from memory

[2017-08-24 11:49:15] goof : GL300 series yes, mavic RC no, not sure about spark

[2017-08-24 11:49:38] goof : people have had overheating RCs trying with the mavic

[2017-08-24 11:49:50] goof : Normal FCC is fine though

[2017-08-24 12:08:18] ender : @haloweenhamster i would stick to FCC, if thats not enough do an Antenna mode, that in itself can double range. 1,5W really overheats stuff…

[2017-08-24 12:18:15] haloweenhamster : Cheers I'll look at doing it when I get stuff back from dji Someone said my core board maybe recoverable by someone in the know, any use to any of you? Haven't done programming for 15 years and electronics for 10 years

[2017-08-24 12:22:05] ender : @haloweenhamster Its probably usable by some of the Hardware guys like hostile, freaky123, martinbogo, the_lord, and probably some more. If things work out just offer it on general OR ask first if they think its recoverable by “normal” means but i guess you did that already :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-24 12:26:13] haloweenhamster : Tried a few things and gave up thinking it would be covered by warranty as I hadn't modded it yet dumlore could see it on com4 but couldn't communicate, FTP didn't work nether did assistant 2

[2017-08-24 12:59:57] kilrah : did you try insisting about the warranty?

[2017-08-24 14:14:59] ender : Kepp us updated about your strange FW mix, okay ? Would be great to have working Smart modes (quickshot / helix / gestures) while still be able to have all parameters including NFZ. I dont have a clear view what belongs to FC and what belongs to the Android System… So far i stay on .300 except battery pretending i am a .600 birdy :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-24 14:16:44] ender : @kyokushin : kilrah updated everything to .600 except the Android System, he may learns about that… See that thread: <https://dji-rev.slack.com/archives/C619RVB6J/p1503511551000668>

[2017-08-24 14:25:19] kyokushin : I am of .300 because of NFZ. I think a parameters is the FC, so rather also FC loader should be on .300 (not sure, trying to deduct). @kilrah why You left android on .400?

[2017-08-24 14:25:37] kilrah : root

[2017-08-24 18:03:39] kyokushin : just made another two flights in spark. Flying it is like flying Me262 or BF109. Cool piece of good hardware, but manufacturer politics sucks.

[2017-08-24 18:10:28] kilrah : very fun in atti :smile:

[2017-08-24 18:11:50] kyokushin : bf109 in atti? :smile:

[2017-08-24 18:13:05] kilrah : lolz

[2017-08-24 18:13:10] kilrah : spark

[2017-08-24 18:13:26] kyokushin : i know, just joking :joy:

[2017-08-24 18:13:32] kilrah : just got my own btw lol

[2017-08-24 18:14:06] kyokushin : my fauvorite toy at now

[2017-08-24 18:42:05] jcarlo : Any recommend a good IP hiding app service. Not too familiar how it works. I download stuff and don't want to get sniff for piracy.

[2017-08-24 18:45:57] tylkologin : basically you can use vpn to hide your real ip. another way is to use some kind of socks proxy (you have to find good proxy). I prefer vpn - a year ago I found a company which offer good vpn and doesn't forward logs to 3 letters agencies :smile:

[2017-08-24 18:48:07] jcarlo : Let's say I download it on my android phone. Can I just install an app or does it have to be something installed to my modem?

[2017-08-24 18:48:55] jcarlo : I use hola but not sure if it works

[2017-08-24 18:55:16] tylkologin : @jcarlo there is android and ios client. check this. <https://pol.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/client-support/>

[2017-08-24 18:55:35] tylkologin : shit

[2017-08-24 18:55:43] tylkologin : change the language :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-24 18:55:58] tylkologin : <https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/client-support/>

[2017-08-24 19:04:47] hotelzululima : also checkout ORFOX to browse without leaking from standard browsers… same project

[2017-08-24 19:07:50] hotelzululima : and may want to consider fdroid for managing the package installation… <https://f-droid.org/>

[2017-08-24 19:08:43] hotelzululima : BTW Tor and ORFOX/ORBOT work

[2017-08-24 19:32:57] jcarlo : Thanks guys. I need my GOT. Recently got a letter from my service provider that someone downloaded GOT from my IP:grinning:

[2017-08-24 20:13:57] hotelzululima : deluge(osx&linux) turn off DHT(UDP) and turn on all TCP proxies to go through tor.. regularly get 6MB bw

[2017-08-25 04:05:37] czokie : Interesting day. Got my RePL test all passed. However, after the post flight check after the test - my P4P is now grounded. It has a stress crack in one of the arms. Pre flight check included check on the airframe - and that was confirmed and validated by the instructor as safe to fly (no crack) but post flight - crack in rear left arm. No collision or impact. But for now - brace for impact as I get ready to call support :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-08-25 05:47:48] goof : they seem to reporting them more commonly than on the P4

[2017-08-25 05:48:08] goof : wonder if the revised vent area is causing stress further up the arm

[2017-08-25 06:50:11] ender : COngrats on the Test. I almost all the times handcatch my Mavic. NOT only because of dirt but also becuase i fear te impact on those foldable arms. Strange to see that the “huge” P4P has such issues…

[2017-08-25 07:34:32] czokie : It was right on the vent...

[2017-08-25 07:35:07] czokie : Normally, I hand catch as well - but that is not "by the book" so I did a traditional landing...

[2017-08-25 07:54:12] czokie : On a positive note - Case opened without too much effort....

[2017-08-25 07:54:29] czokie : Now the waiting game starts - Waiting for the shipping label now.

[2017-08-27 19:49:14] mike4884 : Okay so guys I need your help I was always able to use DJI assistant beta version 112 to edit DJI spark parameters but I just got that mavic and it hooks up to assistant fine my problem is when I'm in debug mode I get this red spinning Circle and I do not see any parameters nor the firmware doesn't load nothing . It basically says can't load firmware and when I go over to the left side I get this red circle will not let me pick parameters or any other menu....do I have to be rooted with the mavic I don't think so?

[2017-08-27 19:51:09] jan2642 : You definitely don't need root for changing parameters. That spinning thing usually happens when the Assistant wants to reach something over the internet but can't due to firewall e.g.

[2017-08-28 09:59:41] bradleyds2 : Finally got around to replacing my flex cable on my P3P Now when I turn it on, the camera doesn't do the startup movements (it stays completely still) and litchi shows it as disconnected, with no video feed. I can still control it through the remote. Any ideas?

[2017-08-28 10:12:08] goof : either not seated properly or the problem wasn't the flex cable to begin with or you disturbed something else while you were in there

[2017-08-28 10:12:31] goof : so the gimbal still works?

[2017-08-28 10:12:38] goof : just not the camera feed?

[2017-08-28 10:12:57] bradleyds2 : No idea how to tell if the gimbal works, to be honest.

[2017-08-28 10:13:58] goof : you said you `can still control it through the remote`, I thought you meant the gimbal

[2017-08-28 10:14:41] bradleyds2 : Ah, I meant the drone itself. It shows as being disconnected on litchi, but doesn't say camera disconnected, just disconnected.

[2017-08-28 10:15:18] goof : perhaps there is no 'camera disconnected' message?

[2017-08-28 10:15:28] kilrah : try go, at least there we know the status messages

[2017-08-28 10:15:28] goof : does DJI Go give any more descriptive messages?

[2017-08-28 10:15:53] goof : at least it could elude to which end of the cable is unplugged

[2017-08-28 10:16:52] bradleyds2 : I was just taking it apart to reseat everything while I downloaded go. Now the camera moves, but it's going haywire. I can upload a video to YouTube if you'd like. I'm about to connect to Go and check if it can establish a connection and video feed.

[2017-08-28 10:17:09] goof : calibrate the camera

[2017-08-28 10:17:13] goof : hold it still if you have to

[2017-08-28 10:17:25] kilrah : did you get a real oem cable? there have been issues with 3rd party ones before

[2017-08-28 10:17:55] bradleyds2 : Yep, real oem. Do I calibrate in the app?

[2017-08-28 10:18:18] goof : these are my guesses based on how P4 behaves, but yeah

[2017-08-28 10:18:32] goof : it should be under gimbal calibration in the Go app

[2017-08-28 10:18:35] goof : if it exists

[2017-08-28 10:18:48] goof : are the motors vibrating?

[2017-08-28 10:21:09] bradleyds2 : Can't calibrate, gimbal overload. Also, getting video feed now. Looks like I put the camera upside down....

[2017-08-28 10:21:29] goof : well that could do it :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-08-28 10:21:41] goof : is the gimbal working this time?

[2017-08-28 10:22:27] bradleyds2 : I know I sound like an idiot for saying this, but I have no idea.

[2017-08-28 10:23:53] goof : well it's either holding the camera still or letting it drop limp

[2017-08-28 10:24:12] bradleyds2 : It's holding it, but going haywire

[2017-08-28 10:24:17] goof : the 'gimbal' being the three motors that control the camera position

[2017-08-28 10:24:19] goof : ah ok

[2017-08-28 10:24:36] goof : kinda slowly tilting from side to side?

[2017-08-28 10:52:10] bradleyds2 : Camera shouldn't be upside down anymore, but it's still going haywire.

[2017-08-28 10:56:22] bradleyds2 : I've recorded a video and will upload it to YouTube now.

[2017-08-28 11:00:11] bradleyds2 : <https://youtu.be/7waA3hWOYEc>

[2017-08-28 11:13:18] kilrah : probably still a bad connection somewhere, or as said earlier there's more damage than the broken cable

[2017-08-28 11:24:51] bradleyds2 : Ah, damn. Strange that it appears to be trying to go in the exact opposite direction though. Also, sorry for the late response, my phone just died. As in, it suddenly went black and now won't turn on...

[2017-08-28 11:28:51] goof : if you can find a new camera assembly I'd be trying to replace that

[2017-08-28 11:29:12] goof : I'm guessing the camera hit the ground pretty hard?

[2017-08-28 11:31:14] goof : are the motors heating up?

[2017-08-28 11:33:42] kilrah : are you sure you reassembled everything properly? and didn't put say the sensor board upside down?

[2017-08-28 11:33:55] kilrah : (no idea if possible on that hardware, but would explain the behavior)

[2017-08-28 11:48:12] ender : @kilrah: tried that once on a DIY Gimpal, didnt work too well :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-08-28 11:52:59] kilrah : No good for fingers :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-08-28 12:15:12] bradleyds2 : Just fixed up my phone, turns out it wasn't completely dead. As for the drone, It is no longer having the gimbal problem! Had to rotate one of the parts.

[2017-08-28 12:17:07] bradleyds2 : Let me know if I should delete that to save space. Also, now the camera doesn't really move. I haven't flown it yet, but trying to rotate the camera while it's grounded, it moves about a millimetre.

[2017-08-28 12:32:24] bradleyds2 : Is this what you meant by that? <https://youtu.be/t6t5Y2XqgLU> Because now it's happening.

[2017-08-28 17:03:00] kyokushin : when app should ask about change fcc/ce region? just after connecting to the RC, or when RC will connect to AC? it is only asking in a case of RC/AC region mismatch or when will detect different region?

[2017-08-28 17:11:57] kilrah : always been when AC is connected for me

[2017-08-28 17:54:28] kyokushin : It is require some google/dji/online services or working with fully offline modded? I am asking because i think my spark wont switch to fcc

[2017-08-28 17:54:58] kilrah : offline

[2017-08-28 17:55:28] kyokushin : so if i make version without FCC, then it should ask me for switch to ce? (if i am in fcc already)

[2017-08-28 17:56:21] kilrah : maybe, not sure how/where that sticks

[2017-08-28 17:56:37] kilrah : I do get asked if I use the stock app from another phone.

[2017-08-28 18:05:19] kyokushin : ok, just tested, fully modded apps, one with second on without fcc, and app is asking just after bird get connection to rc (if region is different)

[2017-08-28 18:08:08] kyokushin : was there some range improvements in Spark fw since .300/.100?

[2017-08-28 18:27:49] ender : @kyokushin : i dont think so. Some ppl report a better “fluidness”in FPV with newest FW & DJI GO, but my FPV is very good already so i did not bother to try (Android S7 Edge).

[2017-08-29 00:03:01] vertigo : Does anyone know what the free port is for behind the inspire 1 nose.

[2017-08-29 15:22:36] zapf : I forgot the name, but at least one company was pulling telemetry data from it. Whoever did the third party data recorders

[2017-08-29 15:23:18] zapf : flytrex

[2017-08-29 15:23:27] zapf : canbus

[2017-08-29 15:23:31] zapf : ?

[2017-08-29 15:24:58] zapf : damn, looks like they've completely abandoned it

[2017-08-29 15:26:29] zapf : <http://wiki.flytrex.com/Main_Page>

[2017-08-29 16:58:06] vertigo : Thanks. I was just confused as to why there would be a free port. I guess dji were planning on adding something like fpv or other accessories and decided not too. It could be worth trying an inspire 2 fpv camera plugged into it. See what happens.

[2017-09-01 00:59:28] tescobag : Yo guys, is it possible to have the official app and the FCC 4.1.3 on the same device at the same time?

[2017-09-01 01:53:00] czokie : Got a message back from DJI service... "After testing and diagnosing your product, DJI will provide you with the free repair service. We estimate to complete repair in 3 to 5 working days, after which the product will be sent back to you."

[2017-09-01 02:13:52] jezzab : Nice

[2017-09-01 02:14:20] czokie : Good experience....

[2017-09-01 02:15:10] czokie : Just wish we could really get a "town hall" with DJI exec's via say webex where could as a larger group help shape their thinking on other topics.

[2017-09-01 06:29:42] czokie : Your Phantom 4 Pro has been repaired. It is estimated that quality assurance will be completed within 2 working days. Please click the following link to check your repair status:

[2017-09-01 06:30:04] czokie : Still going well...

[2017-09-01 06:47:57] czokie : BUT I AM HAVING WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS!

[2017-09-01 06:48:50] jezzab : Lol

[2017-09-01 07:05:15] kilrah : one bird is never enough :smile:

[2017-09-01 07:15:42] czokie : Yeah - but my wife purchased a Canon Eos 5D Mk IV last night..... No more birds for a while

[2017-09-01 07:17:39] kilrah : :smile:

[2017-09-01 07:18:56] kilrah : thankfully my favorite photo equipment manufacturer hasn't had a new product I ~~need~~ want for quite some time, that leaves deep holes too :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-09-01 07:19:47] kilrah : A7RII still doing well after 3 years

[2017-09-01 08:05:55] jezzab : I've resolved myself to just stay with the 5D MkII. Blew the cash on a P4 and Mavic instead

[2017-09-01 08:16:09] pure3d : @jezzab didn't you already pick up your Mavic a while back?

[2017-09-01 08:16:36] jezzab : Yup. That was where the cash went lol

[2017-09-01 08:16:54] pure3d : ah

[2017-09-01 08:17:44] jezzab : Kills me coz the P4 barely gets flown. But I still really feel the video looks better on thr P4 STD then the Mavic

[2017-09-01 08:17:51] jezzab : Just my opinion

[2017-09-01 08:17:57] pure3d : yeah P4 has a better camera

[2017-09-01 08:18:32] pure3d : I need to wait until january to get any new toys because I just spent a bunch of cash helping a good friend out

[2017-09-01 08:18:48] jezzab : But I find the range on my P4 is crap ot compared and I'm always adjusting the RC angle

[2017-09-01 08:19:02] pure3d : his PC died so I bought him some parts and took 16GB ram out of my own damn gaming box for him lol

[2017-09-01 08:19:03] jezzab : Ahh k. Your a good bloke

[2017-09-01 08:20:08] pure3d : his CPU is better than mine!

[2017-09-01 08:20:18] jezzab : Lol

[2017-09-01 08:20:34] pure3d : I built a 6700k gaming box in nov 2015

[2017-09-01 08:20:38] pure3d : I got him a 7700k

[2017-09-01 08:20:48] jezzab : Should have swapped the ram for the CPU until he gets some :p

[2017-09-01 08:20:52] pure3d : the guy's had his teeth kicked in by a string of bad luck for the past year

[2017-09-01 08:21:02] jezzab : Bugger

[2017-09-01 08:21:24] pure3d : oh I wouldn't have felt right doing that since I told him if he could scrape together enough for a motherboard, I would provide the 7700k and ram

[2017-09-01 08:21:53] jezzab : Ahh

[2017-09-01 08:22:11] jezzab : Yup, fair enough

[2017-09-01 08:23:25] pure3d : have you seen any reviews on the crystal sky 7.85" ultra bright? it's not out yet so I suppose regular folks haven't had a chance to review it, but I was hoping the more reputable gadgets sites would get first peek

[2017-09-01 08:26:29] jezzab : Nah I haven't sorry. I just got an S2 Tab 713. Just coz the AMOLED (and Android so I could rock bin4rys patches), the iPad mini 2 was horrible in the sun even with a matt protector. Curious about thr CS though

[2017-09-01 08:27:33] pure3d : yeah if I'm going to get one of those, I'll just go balls out for the ultra model

[2017-09-01 08:27:52] pure3d : 7.85" in 16:9 or 4:3?

[2017-09-01 08:28:14] coldflake : @bradleyds2 Did you get your camera going or is it still fooked? I have been fixing a lot of those gimbs for P3A/P and if you show me a video where it boots up completely I might be able to tell you what is wrong.

[2017-09-01 08:33:54] jezzab : Good to see ya back mate @coldflake

[2017-09-01 08:34:32] coldflake : @jezzab Thanks m8, it is also good to be back :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 08:37:31] coldflake : @jezzab BTW: I made the coolest implementation of DUMLdore into NLD! I took you code and wrapped it into a DLL file which I can call from NLD and get events and everything back. In the progress bar when it uploads the firmware it says: Powered by DUMLDore written by Jezzab

[2017-09-01 08:37:49] jezzab : Haha nice one :)

[2017-09-01 08:38:09] jezzab : Use the latest. It does the anti roll back stuff

[2017-09-01 08:38:37] jezzab : And some DUML fixes. I moved the source seperate

[2017-09-01 08:38:38] coldflake : yes, i noticed that, very cool

[2017-09-01 08:38:43] jezzab : Sweet

[2017-09-01 08:40:15] jezzab : Kilrah found it for Spark. I figured they would make it thru all so I just made it generic just in case. Two days later lol mavic cops it

[2017-09-01 08:40:45] coldflake : That is totally awesome!

[2017-09-01 08:41:28] coldflake : Hey btw, I am in kind of a dilemma here..or maybe not really but here goes

[2017-09-01 08:41:54] coldflake : I am going to by a Mavic PRO for testing purposes

[2017-09-01 08:41:56] pure3d : NLD app?

[2017-09-01 08:42:24] coldflake : ...and then I were thinking of the Mavic PRO Titanium or what the "new" one is called

[2017-09-01 08:42:39] pure3d : platinum

[2017-09-01 08:42:47] coldflake : oh ok, thanks :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 08:42:55] pure3d : the chinese love platinum

[2017-09-01 08:43:08] coldflake : i thought they loved plastic ?

[2017-09-01 08:43:12] pure3d : they call it "white gold" like we call rhodium-plated gold white gold

[2017-09-01 08:43:23] pure3d : I'm like what the hell do you call white gold then?

[2017-09-01 08:43:28] coldflake : anyway, I am very compelled to buy it to get a hold on the firmware

[2017-09-01 08:43:28] pure3d : oh that's white colored gold lolz

[2017-09-01 08:44:04] pure3d : I'm chinese but was not from the mainland so I don't completely understand their variation of chinese culture

[2017-09-01 08:44:36] coldflake : on the other hand, I can probably NOT use it for the original purpose, testing and debugging LOL the original Mavic PRO, hmmm decissions decissions....

[2017-09-01 08:46:02] coldflake : I have been a lot in China and the first time I couldnt wait to get out again :slightly_smiling_face: Now I feel a lot better about China and it is really not so bad as many people makes it sound like

[2017-09-01 08:46:39] pure3d : yeah once you figure out what are the no-nos

[2017-09-01 08:46:48] coldflake : exactly :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 08:48:21] coldflake : and business wise, you have to demand that you need this and that on this particular date an la la la, if you are not completely clear, they will do whatever is easiest for themselves

[2017-09-01 08:49:09] coldflake : That is apparently how it works but it is really not a problem if you are aware of it then makes sure that you are well prepared and also makes sure that there is a smell of money too

[2017-09-01 08:49:25] pure3d : yeah they don't do much proactively for you

[2017-09-01 08:50:00] coldflake : exactly and that is one of the many pitfalls when doing business in China

[2017-09-01 08:51:27] coldflake : ...and if you have your stuff in order and approach them with a very specific demand and a detailed plan, they are up for everything and they do it fast

[2017-09-01 08:53:25] coldflake : So China is a very good place if you know what you are dealing with so to speak. Another thing is that many business will not do business with you if you say upfront that you will not do anything illegal. So you don't mention anything about that, just plays along the lines that everything is possible :slightly_smiling_face: Of course we need to do the business legal but they will see it as competitive disadvantage because all their competitors do it as illegal as they can :slightly_smiling_face: Really funny actually :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 08:53:59] pure3d : lol yeah

[2017-09-01 08:54:16] pure3d : cuz they're like "wait you want us to do EVERYTHING by the book for you?"

[2017-09-01 08:54:28] coldflake : yes :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 08:54:54] pure3d : sometimes they would have to bribe a gov official to move things along when "delays" happen

[2017-09-01 08:55:31] coldflake : exactly, that is another important part, make sure you have the right contacts so you know who and how to bribe the right people without looking bad :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 08:55:51] coldflake : otherwise "delays" as you call it happens :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 08:55:57] pure3d : right cuz if you haven't been introduced, you can't just go up to some guy and go "hey here's your bribe"

[2017-09-01 08:56:07] coldflake : yes :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 08:56:29] coldflake : its all about contacts but even more importantly, socializing with your contacts

[2017-09-01 08:56:45] pure3d : that means going out drinking with them?

[2017-09-01 08:57:15] coldflake : and when you come as a westerner the first time, you fill fail big time if you dont get someone to help you out :slightly_smiling_face: We did that to say the least :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 08:57:25] coldflake : Well more dinner and tea

[2017-09-01 08:57:33] coldflake : and more tea

[2017-09-01 08:57:49] pure3d : how's the dim sum (brunch with tea) over there?

[2017-09-01 08:58:40] coldflake : its different but it is actually very good

[2017-09-01 08:59:20] coldflake : to be honest, I am always afraid of eating food there because of bacteria and poor hygiene

[2017-09-01 08:59:29] pure3d : oh yeah for sure

[2017-09-01 08:59:39] pure3d : you'd need an iron stomach

[2017-09-01 09:00:11] coldflake : yes, and you dont have that when you live in the west with vac food

[2017-09-01 09:00:35] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-09-01 09:00:35] bin4ry : one reason i refuse to travel china is the fear of bad food

[2017-09-01 09:00:39] pure3d : lol

[2017-09-01 09:00:45] bin4ry : bad in the hygenic meaning

[2017-09-01 09:00:46] coldflake : I just came home 14 days ago and been shitting through a straw for at least 10 days after returning home

[2017-09-01 09:00:49] pure3d : pack a bunch of canned beans and spam

[2017-09-01 09:01:08] bin4ry : you are not allowed to travel with that afaik

[2017-09-01 09:01:14] pure3d : part of it is a cultural problem

[2017-09-01 09:02:01] pure3d : the workers who come from the country side who didn't get a chance at much schooling, don't understand microbes and how they make you sick

[2017-09-01 09:02:18] pure3d : for them, they say "it looks clean, I don't understand what the problem is"

[2017-09-01 09:02:30] coldflake : yes that is very true

[2017-09-01 09:02:41] coldflake : they just dont understand it

[2017-09-01 09:04:49] coldflake : there were one place where the waiter came and cut the meat with some scissors he just took out of his pocket and when he was done he just put it back where it came from, without cleaning it of course I noticed it was pretty disgusting and was actually completely black on the blades

[2017-09-01 09:05:22] bin4ry : sounds yummy

[2017-09-01 09:05:23] coldflake : So what do you do? Eat it and pray that you will not spray or appear very impolite and rude?

[2017-09-01 09:05:27] pure3d : lol

[2017-09-01 09:05:32] bin4ry : think of the rest of the hygenic standard then

[2017-09-01 09:05:48] jezzab : Pack imodium lol

[2017-09-01 09:05:50] pure3d : "oh the black stuff? that's pepper, extra flavor for free"

[2017-09-01 09:05:54] coldflake : Exactly!

[2017-09-01 09:05:58] bin4ry : prolly don't was their hands after taking a shit and then they prepare your food

[2017-09-01 09:06:28] coldflake : So that might be the reason for me shitting through a straw for 10 days because apart from that I was very very careful LOL

[2017-09-01 09:06:43] coldflake : yes, nasty @bin4ry

[2017-09-01 09:06:52] jezzab : Most countries like that use one hand only and won't shake that hand and there is just a hole/launch pad

[2017-09-01 09:07:02] jezzab : So not so bad there

[2017-09-01 09:07:33] bin4ry : well, i won't travel there so fast

[2017-09-01 09:07:39] bin4ry : atleast not for private travel

[2017-09-01 09:07:43] jezzab : Basing on Thailand etc though. No idea with China

[2017-09-01 09:07:59] coldflake : Hong Kong is very cool

[2017-09-01 09:08:00] bin4ry : too afraid of the such stuff :smile:

[2017-09-01 09:08:10] coldflake : I always go over Hong Kong

[2017-09-01 09:08:15] jezzab : Heard it's interesting to watch them sweep the freeways with a stick broom though

[2017-09-01 09:08:30] pure3d : I've actually never been to china or HK

[2017-09-01 09:08:32] coldflake : food can also be a problem there but the city is quite amazing

[2017-09-01 09:08:35] pure3d : only dealt with people from those places

[2017-09-01 09:08:35] jezzab : Different world

[2017-09-01 09:08:45] coldflake : totally different

[2017-09-01 09:08:48] jezzab : I'd like to go

[2017-09-01 09:09:43] coldflake : I ended up getting lost in their high speed tube system and ended up in a place where NO foreigners ever come

[2017-09-01 09:10:08] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-09-01 09:10:18] coldflake : It turned out that it was this famous Computer Market that I had seen on Discovery Channel

[2017-09-01 09:10:31] jezzab : I think any country you go to its up to you to try and understand what it's like to live there before you go, embrace the culture. Your in their country Wether it's your cup of tea or not. This is with ANY country

[2017-09-01 09:11:03] coldflake : Fuck my life that an amazing place, everything you could imagine just right there, and everything in spare parts, even DJI spare parts

[2017-09-01 09:11:21] coldflake : that is right jezzab

[2017-09-01 09:12:14] bin4ry : that is totally right, i try to honour that on all my travels

[2017-09-01 09:12:23] jezzab : Any country I've been in I don't try and make it like home. Sorry but that's me. I want to experience it if its good or bad.

[2017-09-01 09:12:27] bin4ry : but thats the thing it makes it hard to travel outside western culture

[2017-09-01 09:12:38] bin4ry : even inside the western culture we have so many differences that make it hard

[2017-09-01 09:12:40] jezzab : It does

[2017-09-01 09:12:48] bin4ry : going to china is a whole different level :wink:

[2017-09-01 09:13:42] pure3d : @coldflake did they sell DJI battery boards, individual battery cells, motors, etc?

[2017-09-01 09:13:55] coldflake : yes, everything of that kind @pure3d

[2017-09-01 09:14:07] coldflake : you could buy a complete drone in sparparts

[2017-09-01 09:14:10] coldflake : spareparts

[2017-09-01 09:14:29] pure3d : that's awesome

[2017-09-01 09:14:38] coldflake : It was so big that I spent more than 6 hours and only saw a fraction of the shops

[2017-09-01 09:14:39] bin4ry : i read an artricle about a guy, building an iphone from scratch with this parts

[2017-09-01 09:14:46] bin4ry : just our of curiousity if he can make it

[2017-09-01 09:14:48] bin4ry : he made it :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:14:52] pure3d : I'd love to try to make a frankenstein mavic battery with extra cells

[2017-09-01 09:15:01] bin4ry : was hard to find all compatible parts but he made it in the end

[2017-09-01 09:15:05] pure3d : I'm unwilling to tear apart 2 good batteries :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-09-01 09:15:25] coldflake : they also had all the fun illegal stuff like wifi blasters, not transmitters :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:15:46] bin4ry : this is the article: <http://mashable.com/2017/04/12/scotty-allen-iphone-parts-china/#Q_QHgBqMvPq0>

[2017-09-01 09:16:30] coldflake : @bin4ry that is the amazing thing about that market i went to, you could buy all of the components there

[2017-09-01 09:17:13] bin4ry : sometime in the future when i am brave enough i will travel to china too, but first i will have to learn more about their culture, i don't want to be the unrespectful tourist :smile: i always try to adapt to local culture

[2017-09-01 09:17:37] coldflake : it is all kinds of small shops which are basicially nothing more than a booth or small closet one sells only SD Cards the other only CPUs and so on and so on

[2017-09-01 09:18:22] coldflake : one only sold screens for cellphones and bla bla, i guess you get the point :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:18:58] coldflake : LOL

[2017-09-01 09:19:24] coldflake : here they were very good at not selling the same shit :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:21:55] pure3d : I need to go to sleep

[2017-09-01 09:22:02] pure3d : 2:21AM here in california haha

[2017-09-01 09:23:02] jezzab : Night buddy

[2017-09-01 09:23:16] coldflake : GN

[2017-09-01 09:24:16] jezzab : I've started watching Game of Thrones. Always refused to watch it coz everyone else was. Started 4 days ago and pulling 2am nights. I'm half way thru season 3 lol

[2017-09-01 09:26:09] jezzab : I'm hooked

[2017-09-01 09:26:46] coldflake : I have refused to watch it for the same reasons

[2017-09-01 09:27:08] coldflake : Now I know for sure that I should not even start to watch it because I really dont have time to get hooked on a TV show, lol

[2017-09-01 09:27:18] jezzab : I hit rock bottom with series. Had nothing left to watch

[2017-09-01 09:27:25] coldflake : LOL

[2017-09-01 09:27:26] jezzab : Bwhahaha

[2017-09-01 09:27:39] coldflake : so it was kind of an act of desperation?

[2017-09-01 09:28:09] jezzab : Yeah. I havent told anyone I've been watching it lol

[2017-09-01 09:28:18] jezzab : Bit like when I bought a mac

[2017-09-01 09:28:57] coldflake : @bin4ry Nice, is one of the for crash testing? :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:29:21] coldflake : @jezzab ha ha, i follow that one :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:29:22] jezzab : Had to sell your soul or body for them?

[2017-09-01 09:30:11] jezzab : I grew up being told your don't buy a Mac unless you are a homosexual or graphics designer

[2017-09-01 09:30:12] bin4ry : kind of a present for some coding i did

[2017-09-01 09:30:21] jezzab : Gotta love the 80s

[2017-09-01 09:31:34] jezzab : And then it was the battle between our family with the Atari ST and my uncle with the Amiga. Mac was never a contender

[2017-09-01 09:32:40] coldflake : I actually had both but ended up going full throttle on making demos for the amiga :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:32:58] jezzab : I can picture that

[2017-09-01 09:33:21] jezzab : Could tell by NLD app lol

[2017-09-01 09:33:21] coldflake : That was actually the most ridiculous thing in the world Amiga demos, lol

[2017-09-01 09:33:26] coldflake : :wink:

[2017-09-01 09:33:39] jezzab : Just needed a parallax scroller lol

[2017-09-01 09:33:48] coldflake : Yes, the scroll text seemed very natural to put there :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:34:01] coldflake : oh yeah, parallax LOL

[2017-09-01 09:34:20] coldflake : Are we really that old, LOL :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:34:35] jezzab : Was some pretty amazing shit even with PC with simple 4K demo comps and stuff

[2017-09-01 09:34:56] coldflake : yes it was and fractals was also huge fun

[2017-09-01 09:35:14] coldflake : that was almost amazing actually :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:36:18] jezzab : <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.kkrieger>

[2017-09-01 09:36:28] jezzab : That's impressive. 96k

[2017-09-01 09:36:41] jezzab : Oh man Fractals lol

[2017-09-01 09:37:16] coldflake : That is pretty neat that game there

[2017-09-01 09:38:22] jezzab : And raytracing was getting big

[2017-09-01 09:38:40] coldflake : I was about to mention it LOL

[2017-09-01 09:40:30] jezzab : Amazing how far we have come. Shit I remember my Orchid Richeous 3D

[2017-09-01 09:40:58] jezzab : Big ass CLICK when it kicked in and pass thru for 3D games

[2017-09-01 09:45:58] jezzab : Anyway, I don't play games but I love firing one up or a demo to see the graphics

[2017-09-01 09:46:45] jezzab : Hell I'm still too lazy to plug my SNES (RPi3) into thr big screen

[2017-09-01 09:48:28] coldflake : Very very NICE!

[2017-09-01 09:48:57] jezzab : Xbox Controller receiver, shows sync on the LEDs. Hit reset to sync a new controller

[2017-09-01 09:49:09] jezzab : Oh I have a Gameboy too :)

[2017-09-01 09:50:01] coldflake : I have a lot of that stuff too but the my ex missus put it in a box somewhere in the basement :disappointed:

[2017-09-01 09:50:28] coldflake : Cool :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:50:33] jezzab : Both play N64 games easily.

[2017-09-01 09:50:42] jezzab : Gameboy has wifi

[2017-09-01 09:51:07] bin4ry : nice

[2017-09-01 09:51:12] bin4ry : i have unmodded consoles

[2017-09-01 09:51:14] jezzab : Oh and they are REAL donor units lol. Should have sold em, be worth more money

[2017-09-01 09:51:35] coldflake : it would be a shame to sell them

[2017-09-01 09:51:57] bin4ry : NES, SNES, N64, Gameboy (transparent 1st version big one), Wii, Wii U, Switch, 3DS, also i have a Sega MegaDrive, Xbox, Xbox360, Xbox One, Ps4 :smile:

[2017-09-01 09:52:01] bin4ry : thats mine

[2017-09-01 09:52:29] jezzab : Ok I'll stop now lol

[2017-09-01 09:52:50] coldflake : It pretty cool :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:53:26] bin4ry : i have a friend

[2017-09-01 09:53:32] bin4ry : he makes music with gameboys

[2017-09-01 09:53:41] jezzab : Haha niiiiice

[2017-09-01 09:53:46] bin4ry : he is called tronimal

[2017-09-01 09:53:51] bin4ry : was at gamescom again

[2017-09-01 09:53:55] bin4ry : doing retro music

[2017-09-01 09:53:59] jezzab : Mod trackers @coldflake

[2017-09-01 09:54:15] bin4ry : "friend" is too much, but he i a former classmate, did not see him for some years until i met him and he told me :smile:

[2017-09-01 09:54:17] bin4ry : totally funny

[2017-09-01 09:54:25] jezzab : Lol

[2017-09-01 09:54:38] coldflake : yeah mod trackers that was awesome too :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 09:54:57] coldflake : For the amiga we used Soundtracker

[2017-09-01 09:55:11] coldflake : if I remember correctly and the NoiseTracker came

[2017-09-01 09:55:17] coldflake : hmm

[2017-09-01 09:55:17] kilrah : nice, what’s in the gameboy?

[2017-09-01 09:55:43] bin4ry : quick question to the mavic users, which firmware is the best to go ?

[2017-09-01 09:55:49] kilrah : I still have my original game gear I bought, recapped it a few months ago

[2017-09-01 09:55:55] kilrah : 700

[2017-09-01 09:55:57] bin4ry : ok

[2017-09-01 09:56:18] bin4ry : will downgrade to that, one of the mavics was pre-registered, so it had been upgraded already

[2017-09-01 09:56:45] coldflake : .700 is is without NFZ param, right?

[2017-09-01 09:56:55] jezzab : Raspberry Pi3 B

[2017-09-01 09:58:07] jezzab : Atari Lynx with TV cartridge

[2017-09-01 09:59:10] jezzab : Think it's in there

[2017-09-01 10:03:02] jezzab : Keep the other one off the grid? Ie activate yourself

[2017-09-01 10:04:16] kilrah : nope 700 is the last to have it

[2017-09-01 10:04:28] coldflake : ok, cool

[2017-09-01 10:04:51] czokie : Im still too lazy to finish my RPi build for piMame

[2017-09-01 10:05:00] czokie : Got a cocktail cabinet ready and waiting...

[2017-09-01 10:05:06] jezzab : Nice

[2017-09-01 10:05:38] coldflake : Mavic 01.03.0700 to be exact, right?

[2017-09-01 10:05:40] czokie : At the moment, its got a 1RU old PC and a (now dead) crt monitor]

[2017-09-01 10:05:44] jezzab : Yup

[2017-09-01 10:06:02] czokie : intend to get the RPI to replace the old x86 box and get a new monitor .... just never have time to do it

[2017-09-01 10:06:17] coldflake : cool

[2017-09-01 10:06:35] jezzab : I actually played with reprogramming the Pi for RGBS

[2017-09-01 10:06:43] jezzab : Got it very very close

[2017-09-01 10:07:04] jezzab : The Csync is pretty close

[2017-09-01 10:08:31] jezzab : Only coz I was Gonna use it for an automotive radio I'd build another embedded board for that I had to work out thr RGBS signal

[2017-09-01 10:08:54] jezzab : Seems to be THE thing for old arcade shit

[2017-09-01 10:14:44] bin4ry : someone of you did play with this registe rfeature before right? Did you successfully un-register and re-register the drone ?

[2017-09-01 10:15:51] jezzab : Yup

[2017-09-01 10:16:03] jezzab : My mavic I have registered locally only

[2017-09-01 10:16:11] jezzab : Activated

[2017-09-01 10:16:51] jezzab : And yes it can be deactivated as well.

[2017-09-01 10:17:13] bin4ry : i see

[2017-09-01 10:17:17] bin4ry : once you deactivated

[2017-09-01 10:17:21] bin4ry : comes the popup on go agian ?

[2017-09-01 10:17:26] bin4ry : where you should register it ?

[2017-09-01 10:17:29] jezzab : Yup

[2017-09-01 10:17:32] bin4ry : lol nice

[2017-09-01 10:17:39] jezzab : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 10:17:42] bin4ry : becasue this came preactivated

[2017-09-01 10:17:46] bin4ry : testing unit

[2017-09-01 10:17:49] jezzab : Ahh

[2017-09-01 10:17:49] bin4ry : i want to play with that

[2017-09-01 10:18:27] jezzab : I mainly did it because I was in a rush and your apk

[2017-09-01 10:18:40] jezzab : So I was fully off line

[2017-09-01 10:19:59] jezzab : Haven't got around to deactivating and doing the normal way. I know mine will be a pain for warranty anyway. Cheap and local but was imported from UK stock by the looks of the box

[2017-09-01 10:20:02] bin4ry : aha, ok i understand i think you can do that from assistant right ?

[2017-09-01 10:20:10] jezzab : Yup

[2017-09-01 10:20:22] bin4ry : yeah have that here right now

[2017-09-01 13:10:00] jezzab : Sorry for the deletion but the question was asked and answered. I don't think it's wise to have this here

[2017-09-01 13:10:18] jezzab : I apologise if you think I'm wrong

[2017-09-01 13:14:04] bin4ry : :smile: yeah you are correct :smile:

[2017-09-01 13:37:16] carlcox89 : ok.. sorry!

[2017-09-01 14:15:35] dpitman : @czokie If you were closer, I have a LaCie Electron 19 Blue I would happily donate. Don't know what to do with it.

[2017-09-01 19:10:57] czokie : Its all good @dpitman

[2017-09-01 19:10:59] czokie : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-01 21:32:31] guest : I'm back home again.... Did I miss anything in the last 6 weeks? :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-02 00:32:20] dpitman : Last week, DJI gave everyone active on Slack a new Inspire 2 for helping them with their crappy software.

[2017-09-02 01:47:30] vertigo : They promptly released a software upgrade and it’s now limited to 5mph and max alt of 1ft. Apparently we need to buy a licence at $2k every time we want to fly faster or higher, that’s after emailing inspire2unlock@dji.com.net.gay and waiting 3 weeks for the unlock code which is valid for 10 seconds

[2017-09-02 17:59:37] unusuario128 : @carlcox89: You can try to batch-rotate your photos with ImageMagic's `convert` command-line tool or any other tool. However, keep in mind that this will reduce the picture resolution and field of view.

[2017-09-02 18:00:41] carlcox89 : yeah i know. Can't really understand why did this started all today

[2017-09-02 19:47:55] unusuario128 : Did you try Atom ([atom.io](http://atom.io))? :smile:

[2017-09-03 09:52:28] czokie : Side topic.... I flew a Mavic yesterday for the first time. Now I am certain I made the right choice of the P4P .... Totally different experience. Can see where it has a place, but not for me.

[2017-09-04 09:01:46] ender : @czokie : could you elaborate ?

[2017-09-04 09:07:36] the_lord : i think he means stability and camera

[2017-09-04 09:08:51] ender : If thats the case i would slighty agree on the camera and not agree on stability from what i have seen from a friends P4P but the P4P anyways fails the “Must have” test by a mile :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-04 09:10:29] the_lord : yesterday we were taking night shots with P4P its waaaay better than Mavic

[2017-09-04 09:26:27] ender : yes, i agree on the bigger sensors, that was my “slightly agreed”, but as night flying here is illegal i compared shots at daytime (DNG) and only found the P4P slightly better. If i factor in the portability the P4P is a no-go for me but of course i dont (have to) earn money with the pictures…

[2017-09-04 09:28:21] ender : I would **love** to implement Multi exposure - nightshot modes for mavic (or spark or P4P), i did that for Leica Cameras for Fun and professionally for High End scanners and its sometimes amazing… But i lack the time and on the DJI’s the access…

[2017-09-04 09:41:33] kilrah : My main problem with the phantoms is that you see the props way too early as soon as you've got a bit of speed

[2017-09-04 10:45:30] czokie : @ender It was just an overall flight experience - thats all I can put it to. The remote, the way it handles, the way it does vision. I just enjoyed it more.

[2017-09-05 19:47:09] unusuario128 : Traveling now. See you soon.

[2017-09-06 05:36:16] czokie : I have my aircraft back today. Woo hoo!

[2017-09-06 05:36:52] czokie : and it appears to be a new aircraft.

[2017-09-06 05:37:16] czokie : Certainly new chassi ....

[2017-09-06 05:40:06] czokie : Shame its windy till Saturday tho.

[2017-09-06 06:16:46] bin4ry : cool

[2017-09-06 06:16:53] bin4ry : fly indoors for starters :smile:

[2017-09-06 06:22:18] jezzab : What firmware lol

[2017-09-06 08:14:21] czokie : Been out - Daughter soccer - First game of season - Team won :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 08:17:57] czokie : Now to power up the bird and say hello

[2017-09-06 08:20:31] czokie : 509 was on the AC when shipped FYI

[2017-09-06 08:25:33] bin4ry : i forgot, what was the problem with it?

[2017-09-06 08:25:43] bin4ry : i know you wrote it, but i cannot remember :smile:

[2017-09-06 08:26:06] czokie : Stress crack in airframe on rear right arm, plus another crack near battery compartment. No crashes or other physical root cause.

[2017-09-06 08:26:21] bin4ry : spark or mavic ?

[2017-09-06 08:26:25] czokie : P4P

[2017-09-06 08:26:28] bin4ry : ah :smile:

[2017-09-06 08:26:31] bin4ry : or p4p

[2017-09-06 08:26:32] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-09-06 08:26:47] czokie : Most recent crack happened during an official flight test that was supervised by a casa examiner.

[2017-09-06 08:26:59] bin4ry : uh bad

[2017-09-06 08:27:01] czokie : So - they witnessed me do pre-flight inspection

[2017-09-06 08:27:03] czokie : and no crack

[2017-09-06 08:27:11] czokie : and found the crack during post flight inspection.

[2017-09-06 08:27:18] czokie : so had a great witness :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 08:27:55] czokie : Anyway - Waiting for weekend now...

[2017-09-06 08:27:58] bin4ry : i never flew the p4p, but i looked at it in many stores. i feel the p3, p4 etc series feel not as good as the mavic and spark

[2017-09-06 08:28:07] bin4ry : also the remote kinda looks like a childs play remote

[2017-09-06 08:28:15] bin4ry : the plastic is kindof weird IMHO

[2017-09-06 08:28:51] czokie : Let me say this - I flew a Mavic for the first time on the weekend - I had previously thought I'd get one for a 2nd AC - after flying one, I've decided that wont happen.

[2017-09-06 08:28:59] czokie : Totally different feeling ....

[2017-09-06 08:29:07] bin4ry : ok

[2017-09-06 08:29:13] bin4ry : well but that is flight wise

[2017-09-06 08:29:17] bin4ry : i was only speaking of the plastic :smile:

[2017-09-06 08:29:21] czokie : hehehehe

[2017-09-06 08:29:42] czokie : Its the flight that is the important bit aint it?

[2017-09-06 08:29:44] bin4ry : also the p series remote feels bad for me

[2017-09-06 08:29:57] bin4ry : bulky and slippy

[2017-09-06 08:30:16] bin4ry : not to speak of it's uglyness (but thats not important at all :smile: )

[2017-09-06 08:30:30] czokie : I dont have lots to compare with - but the remote in comparison to mavic - feel like I have finer control on P4P ... but maybe thats just familiarity.

[2017-09-06 08:30:51] bin4ry : hmmm, well i am super happy with the mavic and with the spark

[2017-09-06 08:30:57] bin4ry : and i never flew the p* series

[2017-09-06 08:31:00] bin4ry : so i cannot tell

[2017-09-06 08:31:06] bin4ry : i can only judge from optics :smile:

[2017-09-06 08:31:25] czokie : Go fly one .... Whats the worst that could happen? Buy another drone?

[2017-09-06 08:31:26] czokie : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 08:31:57] bin4ry : well i cannot fly one i don't know anybody with one

[2017-09-06 08:32:45] jezzab : I still prefer my P4 std cam over my Mavic. Even if it's the same sensor snd specs only different FOV

[2017-09-06 08:33:04] bin4ry : they should re-design the remote :smile:

[2017-09-06 08:33:13] bin4ry : or atleast make it black

[2017-09-06 08:33:23] czokie : They have a black remote now

[2017-09-06 08:33:24] czokie : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 08:33:25] bin4ry : and non glossy

[2017-09-06 08:33:33] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-09-06 08:33:33] bin4ry : and a bit smaller

[2017-09-06 08:33:59] jezzab : Mavic smashes my P4 for reception though

[2017-09-06 08:34:21] bin4ry : really?

[2017-09-06 08:34:26] bin4ry : i am still not happy for the mavic reception

[2017-09-06 08:34:31] bin4ry : was thinking about modding it already

[2017-09-06 08:34:32] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-09-06 08:34:53] jezzab : Yeah. I'm always adjusting the angle on P4 but Mavic I don't have too unless I'm waaaaay away

[2017-09-06 08:35:15] czokie : Yet to do a range test from my new AC of course - but it can do quite good range - beats my mate's p4p and mavic by a long distance. Yet to see if this one will be the same or different

[2017-09-06 08:35:35] bin4ry : funny how everybody makes different experiences :smile:

[2017-09-06 08:35:55] jezzab : But the P4 is fast....damn fast lol

[2017-09-06 08:36:07] jezzab : Just hate I can see the props

[2017-09-06 08:36:31] czokie : So - dont set the 30 degree thing

[2017-09-06 08:36:39] jezzab : Pfft

[2017-09-06 08:36:47] jezzab : 30, try 55

[2017-09-06 08:36:58] bin4ry : lol omg

[2017-09-06 08:37:10] jezzab : Go hard or go home lol

[2017-09-06 08:37:44] jezzab : I've left normal mode stock though. Just souped up sports and atti

[2017-09-06 08:38:02] coldflake : Yeah @jezzab "she" also said that yesterday ;)

[2017-09-06 08:38:46] jezzab : So In closing. I love P4 and Mavic. Both have pros and cons. But I use the Mav more just due to portability

[2017-09-06 08:39:02] jezzab : And props are cheaper, batteries are cheaper etc

[2017-09-06 08:39:26] jezzab : And I noticed you can't screw the Mavic RC sticks out today

[2017-09-06 08:39:52] jezzab : P4 you can to make it "finer"

[2017-09-06 08:40:06] jezzab : Guess you could just do it in the app though

[2017-09-06 08:41:09] coldflake : The spark is quite fun in boosted sports mode

[2017-09-06 08:41:24] coldflake : It's an evil little thing buzzing around

[2017-09-06 08:43:02] jezzab : I'm still yet to play with one

[2017-09-06 08:50:48] bin4ry : looks ugly as fuck

[2017-09-06 08:50:50] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-09-06 08:51:10] ender : you should see the FPVLR in real life to start adoring those from eBay :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 08:51:13] ender : but YES

[2017-09-06 08:51:31] ender : and they have unbelievable penetration

[2017-09-06 08:51:49] ender : CP runs circles around LP in terms of penetration.

[2017-09-06 08:52:52] bin4ry : yeah i understood. Well this is only for long range flights anyway. We are pretty much f*ed here in germany as you know yourself for long range non sight flights :wink:

[2017-09-06 08:54:12] ender : Yup but i still like to do it :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 08:54:30] jezzab : You running the modded apk? Lmao

[2017-09-06 08:54:53] ender : And IF i do i want to keep connection :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 08:55:21] bin4ry : what you think? :wink:

[2017-09-06 08:55:41] ender : Besides that also the opening angle is exactly in my sweet spot, tight enough to make a difference for the dBi and wide enough not to worry too much to point in the direction of the AC. around 45 degrees H & V

[2017-09-06 08:56:13] jezzab : Probably secretly running iOS

[2017-09-06 08:56:27] ender : yup, his dirtly little iPhone7 secret.

[2017-09-06 08:56:51] ender : and too dumb to use the configs on those pesky iCraps :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 08:56:51] bin4ry : i got an iphone from a friend. ip5s, i cannot stand it. OS is not my taste AT ALL

[2017-09-06 08:57:17] czokie : So. You like Mavic, I like P4P. You like Android. I like IOS. Welcome to the product wars :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 08:57:27] bin4ry : nah

[2017-09-06 08:57:29] bin4ry : no product wars

[2017-09-06 08:57:33] ender : Djihaaaaaad! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

[2017-09-06 08:57:37] bin4ry : i like that everyone has the choice !

[2017-09-06 08:57:43] bin4ry : i never said anything of it was bad

[2017-09-06 08:58:02] bin4ry : i just said what I PERSONALLY prefer, that does not mean at all that anything is bad

[2017-09-06 08:58:16] ender : As for work i “had them all” so i like to have an EDUCATED choice :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 08:58:43] ender : Actually privatly i started out with apple newton, then Windows CE, then Symbian, then iOS, then Android and finally love struck :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 08:59:11] ender : Only touched Blackberry & Windows phone with a loooong stick :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-09-06 08:59:17] bin4ry : what i don't like on the iOS device is that it's just so fucking slow (the ip5s)

[2017-09-06 08:59:23] bin4ry : so i cannot judge really

[2017-09-06 08:59:27] bin4ry : and i don'T want to

[2017-09-06 08:59:33] ender : ohh thats not true on current phones.

[2017-09-06 08:59:57] ender : They just like to strangle oldish devices to death with new iOS versions but if you stay on older versions its fine

[2017-09-06 09:00:36] jezzab : This is true

[2017-09-06 09:00:38] bin4ry : the layout of the OS feels awkward for me also i don't like that i don't have a dedicated menu for the apps. it is just what somebody prefers. i would never say that iphones are bad, since they are clearly not!

[2017-09-06 09:01:38] bin4ry : also for the iphone 5s, this is just very small :smile: lol i am used to bigger devices, feels like it need to aim really good to hit the right keys on the keyboard. i always think about getting a newer iphone to test someday, but then it would be an plus version for sure

[2017-09-06 09:02:12] ender : Thats all just something to get used to, but a decent human never gets used to beeing treated like an infant by the OS, thats my grief. Went from iPhon (1) to 3GS and then quit it for good…

[2017-09-06 09:02:52] bin4ry : i cannot judge that since i never productively used it, i always felt wrong for me to use iOS. i also did never understand the menu structure

[2017-09-06 09:03:02] bin4ry : always felt like the items were at the wrong place

[2017-09-06 09:03:05] jezzab : I sold my iPhone 7 and bought an S8 lol

[2017-09-06 09:03:12] bin4ry : and the fucking back button on the upper left corner

[2017-09-06 09:03:14] jezzab : Made the change

[2017-09-06 09:03:19] bin4ry : it drove me crazy

[2017-09-06 09:03:23] bin4ry : but that was only my ipod

[2017-09-06 09:03:43] bin4ry : i used it some time but it was driving me crazy in being to slow and such things

[2017-09-06 09:04:57] bin4ry : for the slowness: it is also 1 point i dislike on iOS, when you start an app it always takes some time to "think" before it starts the app (which is then there fully loaded), i prefer to see whats happening and see the loading of the app. but that is also just designchoice

[2017-09-06 09:06:03] bin4ry : so let's stop now discussing mobile OS. there is enough idiots talking about that. i am personally happy that there are atleast 2 big players in the game, if it were for me there should be more, everyone has other things one likes and none of the OS's is worse than the other

[2017-09-06 09:06:12] jezzab : You just go and let it all out mate. Sounds like you've been holding this in for a while lol

[2017-09-06 09:06:28] bin4ry : nah i was mainly answering to @ender

[2017-09-06 09:06:41] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-09-06 09:06:52] jezzab : I'm shit stirring, couldn't you see my big stick :p

[2017-09-06 09:07:00] bin4ry : lol

[2017-09-06 09:07:01] ender : lols

[2017-09-06 09:07:36] bin4ry : speaking of android

[2017-09-06 09:07:40] bin4ry : i just pushed the fixed login

[2017-09-06 09:07:41] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-09-06 09:07:42] ender : troll feeding they call it :smiling_imp:

[2017-09-06 09:07:48] ender : yihaaaaa

[2017-09-06 09:08:00] bin4ry : then you are the troll :wink: @ender and i am feeding you in trying to calm you

[2017-09-06 09:08:00] ender : bin4ry so you feel 4.1.8 is an okay choice by now ?

[2017-09-06 09:08:01] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-09-06 09:08:02] bin4ry : :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-09-06 09:08:08] ender : HUNGRYYY

[2017-09-06 09:08:11] bin4ry : should be

[2017-09-06 09:08:14] bin4ry : please test it

[2017-09-06 09:08:24] bin4ry : i need tests to make sure of that

[2017-09-06 09:08:29] ender : is it still constantly (de)coding strings or did you get rid of that ?

[2017-09-06 09:08:36] bin4ry : nah i do not remove that

[2017-09-06 09:08:38] ender : (i fear performance hit on my older ANdroids)

[2017-09-06 09:08:39] bin4ry : too much work to remove that

[2017-09-06 09:08:59] ender : Why WOULD you prefer 4.1.8 over 4.1.3 ? (sorry to be dense)

[2017-09-06 09:09:07] jezzab : So it will still keep your hands warm in winter when u use it. Nice

[2017-09-06 09:09:29] bin4ry : it has the spark modes

[2017-09-06 09:09:32] bin4ry : for pano etc

[2017-09-06 09:09:37] bin4ry : AND

[2017-09-06 09:09:42] bin4ry : i reworked the loginPatch

[2017-09-06 09:09:44] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-09-06 09:09:59] bin4ry : only thing still needed is to fool the obb download

[2017-09-06 09:10:05] bin4ry : for now you need to let it download atleast once

[2017-09-06 09:10:27] ender : haheee

[2017-09-06 09:10:45] bin4ry : so they can download the shit for the inbuild editor

[2017-09-06 09:10:49] bin4ry : music and images etc

[2017-09-06 09:10:51] bin4ry : aaaaaand

[2017-09-06 09:10:53] ender : if i find the time i’ll try to compare its performance on my Moverios…

[2017-09-06 09:10:55] bin4ry : the nfz.dbb

[2017-09-06 09:11:17] ender : i have no idea how much more cpu load the string madness will add

[2017-09-06 09:11:27] bin4ry : not much

[2017-09-06 09:11:43] bin4ry : dont worry

[2017-09-06 09:12:40] ender : guys need to work, nice raving :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 09:12:59] bin4ry : work already :wink:

[2017-09-06 10:05:41] ender : I also would like to know how one could not be happy about Mavics range / penetration…

[2017-09-06 10:16:30] bin4ry : hm, might be true, but still i am not happy with it :smile:

[2017-09-06 10:17:24] bin4ry : well, i have to say that i was flying at a local lake, in 300m height and around 2 km away. i got choppy video stream from time to time. thats what i am saying

[2017-09-06 10:17:34] bin4ry : the controls where never a problem though

[2017-09-06 10:20:18] ender : CE or FCC (why do i have to ask)…

[2017-09-06 10:21:43] ender : With stock ANtennae (soon to change when i receive my second Kit) i had good video up to 2500m@100m Alt and choppy but still okay video up to 3500m@100m Alt.

[2017-09-06 10:21:54] ender : I expect fluidness within battery range with the CP ANtennae

[2017-09-06 10:22:05] bin4ry : yeah i was disappointed by the video performance

[2017-09-06 10:22:42] ender : since 4.1.3 & cache off fluidness is great

[2017-09-06 10:23:16] bin4ry : i don't have a problem with fluidness

[2017-09-06 10:23:19] bin4ry : it is fluid

[2017-09-06 10:23:20] ender : i have to get iPad Mini 4 from work to compare again, on earlier (WAY earlier) versions the iPad was superior, right now i only got a rusty iPad Mini 2 here…

[2017-09-06 10:23:26] ender : quality ?

[2017-09-06 10:23:26] bin4ry : but the video stream gets lost sometimes

[2017-09-06 10:23:33] ender : woops, lost ?

[2017-09-06 10:23:36] bin4ry : yes

[2017-09-06 10:23:40] bin4ry : thats why i am disappointed

[2017-09-06 10:23:44] ender : Please elaborate

[2017-09-06 10:23:52] ender : lost = no more stream ? Or blocks ?

[2017-09-06 10:23:57] bin4ry : no more stream

[2017-09-06 10:24:01] bin4ry : still able to control

[2017-09-06 10:24:15] ender : Does it say “lost connection” with red bar ?

[2017-09-06 10:24:25] ender : Or just everything looks okay and last frame is frozen ?

[2017-09-06 10:24:38] bin4ry : red bar

[2017-09-06 10:24:43] bin4ry : like i have on spark too sometimes

[2017-09-06 10:24:55] bin4ry : but on spark it is expected at some range

[2017-09-06 10:24:56] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-09-06 10:25:15] ender : i get that at high distance and low Altitude but NOT NEARLY in freeterrain at 2000m with the Mavic (i dont go higher then 100m).

[2017-09-06 10:25:34] bin4ry : i was at 300 m

[2017-09-06 10:25:38] ender : Yes, but i got my spark to 3000m+ with CP ANtenna always having live stream as well although choppy

[2017-09-06 10:25:38] bin4ry : and around 2km away

[2017-09-06 10:25:45] ender : thats underwhelming

[2017-09-06 10:25:50] ender : i agree

[2017-09-06 10:26:02] bin4ry : maybe it was a bad area intereference wise

[2017-09-06 10:26:04] bin4ry : no idea

[2017-09-06 10:26:07] ender : i thought you were going haywire on a few hickups…

[2017-09-06 10:26:11] bin4ry : nah

[2017-09-06 10:26:15] ender : could always be.

[2017-09-06 10:26:31] ender : I was unable to get close to a ferry, probably it was broadcasting white noise all over :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-06 10:26:46] bin4ry : heh

[2017-09-06 10:26:52] ender : yummy, lunch, cya !

[2017-09-06 10:27:12] bin4ry : cu

[2017-09-06 10:33:41] bin4ry : with choppy i meant not stuttering i meant it was going black and went away for a few seconds then came back

[2017-09-06 10:33:42] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-09-06 10:34:34] kilrah : ok, in CE normally you'd start having blocks/short drops at 2.5km or so, 3km starts cutting completely

[2017-09-06 10:35:55] bin4ry : ok, so maybe my location was bad

[2017-09-06 10:36:18] kilrah : yup

[2017-09-06 10:37:13] bin4ry : good to know i was a bit disappointed there, since i expected more :smile:

[2017-09-06 10:40:14] kilrah : and you weren't in fcc

[2017-09-06 13:37:12] czokie : Hey. When was last p4p rc update? Just got my ac replaced and had an update waiting for the rc. Loaded it in and kept a copy of the bin file. Anyone working on p4p rc? Anyone need the bin? It may be related to just installing hdmi module...

[2017-09-06 19:17:49] ender : someone got to tell bin4ry about that great modded app that enables FCC in Europe :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-09-07 12:37:26] judah_lucifer : Guys, I wonder with the patch, is Spark better with or without OTG. Some guy on youtube said it is better without

[2017-09-07 12:44:26] kilrah : OTG slightly better usually

[2017-09-07 12:48:10] ender : agreed, better with OTG

[2017-09-07 12:50:03] judah_lucifer : thanks guys

[2017-09-07 12:56:12] judah_lucifer : also, with the patched app, what is the image transmission rate you set for Spark? What is that and how should I adjust? Sorry Spark is my first drone so...

[2017-09-07 13:02:04] kilrah : I jsut leave defaults.

[2017-09-07 13:02:32] judah_lucifer : :+1:

[2017-09-08 04:34:10] czokie : Question to all: Is the API for flight data upload / download published? Hypothetically... if I was a user that wanted to stay online, I know that for example airdata do online sync to download flight records. is that using published API, or did they reverse engineer the comms?

[2017-09-08 06:26:16] jezzab : Well its been a gruelling 2 weeks with some pretty late nights but its nearly done

[2017-09-08 06:26:24] jezzab : Im up to season 6 of GOT

[2017-09-08 08:42:49] ender : Damn, i am still waiting my *ss off for TWD Season 8…

[2017-09-08 08:58:38] jezzab : I watched that series after thr fact as well and didn't sleep for weeks lol.

[2017-09-08 08:59:44] jezzab : Sleep much. Even finished jobs early to watch it

[2017-09-08 08:59:59] jezzab : Was bad. Consumed my life

[2017-09-08 09:00:19] jezzab : Hanging for new ones

[2017-09-08 09:01:46] jezzab : Im waiting for West World. Was a fan. And love Silicon Valley, Halt and Catch Fire

[2017-09-08 09:02:13] jezzab : Oh, waiting for Stranger Things. 80s AF

[2017-09-08 09:07:47] kyokushin : Watch Banshee and Narcos

[2017-09-08 09:08:14] kyokushin : Expanse,Dark Matter, Killjoys also good.

[2017-09-08 09:08:21] jan2642 : You could always try Mr Robot if you haven’t already. You have one month to get up to speed, oct 11 starts season 3.

[2017-09-08 09:12:41] ender : I cant bring myself yet to watch GOT as i was so “in love” with the books and fear to be disappointed by the series… AND there is that “i have no time for anything” problem :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-08 09:13:02] ender : thx jan, was considering that already, sounds great :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-08 09:13:32] ender : ++ to dark matter as well, SO FEW TIME :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-08 09:21:22] jezzab : I watch Mr Robot. And Dark Matter is average but it's my backup. It's cheesey but I love it.

[2017-09-08 09:21:37] jezzab : Can't stop watching

[2017-09-08 09:22:38] jezzab : Curious about Narcos. Heard good things

[2017-09-08 12:52:50] jezzab : These goggles better be good @czokie lol

[2017-09-08 12:54:07] jezzab : I'm gonna hack the f*** out of em to justify the price.

[2017-09-08 12:55:32] weprul0r : they fucked up the sound since fw 1000, but the rest is really nice.

[2017-09-08 12:56:08] weprul0r : maybe i will downgrade to 900, i don't need the rc signal symbol

[2017-09-08 12:56:36] jezzab : Sound ? You can plug I headphone right?

[2017-09-08 12:57:19] weprul0r : yes, i meant the speakers inside

[2017-09-08 12:57:30] jezzab : Ahhh k

[2017-09-08 12:57:57] jezzab : What went wrong?

[2017-09-08 12:58:15] weprul0r : in ther first fw 1000 you couldn't control the volume

[2017-09-08 12:58:31] weprul0r : you set it to 0, but the volume was constantly increasing up to 100% again, while you used it

[2017-09-08 12:58:44] jezzab : Oh

[2017-09-08 12:59:18] weprul0r : they fixed that in the second fw 1000

[2017-09-08 12:59:25] weprul0r : that's why they pushed two versions :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-08 12:59:29] weprul0r : i think

[2017-09-08 13:00:14] weprul0r : maybe not the only reason, but possible..

[2017-09-08 13:02:25] weprul0r : now the startup sound is only played on the left speaker - on fw 900 you had this nice stereo bootup sound. maybe they will fix this in later versions - just a small glitch after the volume fix :smile:

[2017-09-08 13:02:59] weprul0r : but i really don't use the sound, the navigation sounds are nasty

[2017-09-08 13:04:33] weprul0r : and your goggles are shipped now, jezzab?

[2017-09-08 13:04:56] jezzab : Ordered. Ship 1 to 2 days

[2017-09-08 13:05:40] jezzab : Thank your for your info

[2017-09-08 13:05:48] jezzab : Hmm

[2017-09-08 13:06:08] weprul0r : ah, they are on stock currently?

[2017-09-08 13:07:20] weprul0r : i ordered on 4th of august, shipped on 10th and got them finally on 14th. faster then i thought.

[2017-09-08 13:10:06] jezzab : That's good

[2017-09-08 13:12:53] weprul0r : what i don't like is the head tracking to control the yaw. this is awfully slow, not usable imho.

[2017-09-08 13:14:20] ender : probably adjustable by one of those magic parameters :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-08 13:14:39] weprul0r : that would be nice!

[2017-09-08 13:16:15] ender : Did someone dump all Goggles Parameters in DJIA Debug mode ?! Probably :slightly_smiling_face: I dont plan on getting those hyped gogglies :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-08 13:35:23] weprul0r : maybe i can have a look at the weekend and can publish the parameters

[2017-09-08 15:57:58] bin4ry : Which aircraft? Did you keep the versions on rc and AC consistent?

[2017-09-08 16:37:49] jan2642 : @knoxville Did you delete the wm*.cfg.sig file ? Or did you use another tool than the Assistant to up/downgrade ?

[2017-09-08 16:41:43] knoxville : @bin4ry @jan2642 sorry forgot to mention. It's about a mavic. Yes, I both updated the RC and aircraft to 700. I didn't delete the wn*.cfg.sig file. I followed up these instructions: <https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2916078-DJI-Dashboard-How-To-tips-and-tricks-%2AMAVIC%2A> @jan2642 didn't saw anything mentioned about these files. Do you have any link regarding to this instruction?

[2017-09-08 16:43:20] jan2642 : From that I guess you used DUMLdore to up/downgrade ? Did you use the latest version ?

[2017-09-08 16:47:40] knoxville : Correct, I used the Github source. Version 1.92. I was surprised that I didn't got a finish message during the downgrade process of the remote. At a certain moment the remote just said "to shutdown" As you can see in the screenshot of the DJI app it recognised the version of the remote.

[2017-09-08 16:54:02] jan2642 : DUMLdore only initialises the upgrade, but doesn’t wait for it to complete. I didn’t read the instructions on that site but normally it goes like this: - Start upgrade with DUMLdore. - Once it completes, start the Assistant and select your device. - The assistant will detect that an upgrade is in progress and will show progress of the upgrade.

[2017-09-08 16:54:15] jan2642 : I guess in your case, the upgrade didn’t complete properly.

[2017-09-08 17:04:18] knoxville : @jan2642 what you are saying was exact the case for the aircraft. Assistant said it was 100% and finished. Is this working exact the same for the remote? If this doesn't work, Is there a alternative way to try downgrade the remote? I will give it another shot.

[2017-09-08 17:12:22] jan2642 : It should work exactly the same for the remote. If you can’t get the aircraft to show a proper version, you could try to upgrade it again with this revision of DUMLdore: <https://github.com/jezzab/DUMLdore/tree/51ae8fa236f660151be7a55214aab0ba8070e235>

[2017-09-08 17:14:36] jan2642 : After this revision, a workaround has been added for downgrading Sparks. This works by removing the file containing the version number so the upgrade code can’t see that it shouldn’t allow the downgrade. It seems that in your case that file got deleted and not restored. The version of DUMLdore I just linked doesn’t delete this file yet. That might solve the missing version number.

[2017-09-08 18:54:16] knoxville : @jan2642. Your method worked. I downgraded the remote assistant said 100%. I did another attempt downgrading the mavic. Assistant then stopped at 53%, but everything works! Thank you very much!

[2017-09-08 20:11:09] haloweenhamster : tempted to get back on coding, not done any in 15 years, i use windows and android, whats recommended to start with? what do you lot play with?

[2017-09-08 21:17:11] haloweenhamster : hi i was just looking at <https://github.com/MAVProxyUser/dji_system.bin> noticed 400 and 700 combined root whats the advantages or a rooted drone? any advantages over just tweaking parameters?

[2017-09-08 21:17:56] haloweenhamster : for mavic

[2017-09-09 00:40:23] czokie : First real flying today after receiving aircraft back. Initial observations:

[2017-09-09 00:40:37] czokie : a. Gimbal flop happened again. But unfortunately, it was before I turned on video to get evidence of the problem.

[2017-09-09 00:40:47] czokie : b. Range is severely impacted today. What has changed?

[2017-09-09 00:40:51] czokie : 1. New aircraft

[2017-09-09 00:40:55] czokie : 2. New RC firmware

[2017-09-09 00:41:05] czokie : 3. New app version

[2017-09-09 00:41:26] czokie : 4. Config file not present in new app after install for 32ch mod

[2017-09-09 00:41:55] czokie : Gonna charge and re-install config for 32ch mod - and see how that performs.

[2017-09-09 00:50:58] darksimpson : No advantage for "everyday use". Parameters changing is not directly affected by rooting device. But a huge one if you plan to develop something special or hack some internals.

[2017-09-09 05:54:11] haloweenhamster : Cheers good to know

[2017-09-09 06:00:33] haloweenhamster : if you change from ce power to FCC or boost does it just effect the RC or also the aircraft TX? was looking at Modding the RC to use boost but unsure if I need to mod the mavic as well

[2017-09-09 08:32:46] darksimpson : For me it looks like it also changes aircraft tx power (I'm using modified app). I'm using amplifiers with rc. At least it looks like that with modified app I can fly farther as the video downstream from aircraft is more stable. It needs deeper investigation but I now do not have a time to do it.

[2017-09-09 08:33:09] darksimpson : Wht mod you want to apply to rc?

[2017-09-09 08:45:06] czokie : Watching Channel 9 australia - Drone Flying is a HSC subject next year

[2017-09-09 08:54:08] jezzab : wow

[2017-09-09 09:25:20] haloweenhamster : improve cooling, not opened it up yet but I was thinking of piping out an external heatsink and fan, if the mavic ups its power might need to look at what I can do for the TX in the mavic

[2017-09-09 11:29:02] kilrah : I think I looked but there are none (and it makes sense)

[2017-09-09 14:28:20] vertigo : The first season was good however the second was EXTREMELY slow

[2017-09-09 14:31:37] knoxville : Is there still a way to change to FCC using a non-jailbroked iOS device?

[2017-09-09 17:59:58] unusuario128 : @mefisto: Kudos! Your `dji_fwcon.py` works magnifically and implements all the DJI stuff in a well-structured code (though it doesn't follow the PEP8 as tightly as I would desire). :100:

[2017-09-09 19:09:38] venom-code : i dont know if this is the right platform to inquire about this but any directions or help will be much appreciated, i am in the process of purchasing a Parrot Disco fixed wing and i wanted to know if there are any hacks available for it like by passing altitude limit and removing geo fencing / distance limit , and any transmission work arounds for better range like how we use config files for FCC hack, thank you!

[2017-09-10 11:18:16] unusuario128 : @czokie: Do you know if an (ariport) radar can detect a drone? I ever had the doubt.

[2017-09-10 11:18:54] czokie : nope - not to my knowledge.

[2017-09-10 11:18:59] czokie : Same size as a bird....

[2017-09-10 11:20:06] unusuario128 : Thanks!

[2017-09-10 11:22:58] unusuario128 : Would be great to implement some standarized communication system to report the position of the drones to the nearest airport.

[2017-09-10 11:23:36] czokie : Some variation of ADS-B will sort that out.

[2017-09-10 11:24:56] unusuario128 : Yes.

[2017-09-10 11:25:50] unusuario128 : However I don't know if anybody is allowed to emit ADS-B

[2017-09-10 11:26:22] unusuario128 : I've received it with my RTL-SDR, however. :wink:

[2017-09-10 11:26:31] czokie : yuppers - like I said, some variant - where in the future - I think Drones will be sending their positions - and we'll have collision avoidance and all sorts of funky stuff

[2017-09-10 11:48:23] unusuario128 : The ~general thread was converted into a cricket cage... Would be possible to join all the messages into a thread or otherwise group them to avoid polluting it?

[2017-09-10 11:49:41] unusuario128 : However, the conversation was entertaining and good.

[2017-09-10 11:51:32] unusuario128 : Now I know that the point where the test flights were done is nearer to the airport than what I thought originally. When you see a straight, long road, the measures blur a bit.

[2017-09-10 12:12:43] unusuario128 : Lunch time!

[2017-09-10 12:12:46] unusuario128 : See you later!

[2017-09-11 05:54:18] jezzab : whoot Goggles should be here tomorrow. Aaaaaand its supposed to rain for the next 5 days dammit :disappointed:

[2017-09-11 07:15:55] kilrah : hah :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-09-11 07:34:27] tylkologin : @jezzab waiting for a kickstarter project. “an umbrella for mavic” :D:D:D

[2017-09-11 07:58:59] czokie : Mary Poppins for Mavic?

[2017-09-11 08:00:11] jezzab : Jim jimminy jim jimmmy jim jaroo

[2017-09-11 08:01:21] czokie : Hmm. New use for aircraft - chimney sweep. The airflow'd clean out some dirt in there...

[2017-09-11 08:02:13] jezzab : Who needs an Obsidian to have a black P4

[2017-09-11 08:04:26] jezzab : Guess it will give me a few days to screw around with them and use them in a "manner other then directed"

[2017-09-11 08:04:44] jezzab : Anyone hooked them up to a PC? lol

[2017-09-11 10:11:57] kilrah : sure, works great

[2017-09-11 16:03:38] unusuario128 : Coming from ~crystalsky_rooting but posting here as it's blatantly off-topic: How does this glorified tablet cost 500$? :grimacing:

[2017-09-11 16:07:42] kilrah : because usage-specific device with small target market and unique specificities?

[2017-09-11 16:11:56] pure3d : @unusuario128 it's actually cheaper than other similar products on the market

[2017-09-11 16:12:11] pure3d : go look up professional view monitors that are 1000 nits and see how much they cost

[2017-09-11 16:14:34] ender : DJI Users are used to being ripped off :wink:

[2017-09-11 16:14:36] pure3d : <http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-entire-high-bright-direct-sunlight-display-industry-for-pro-cameras-has-just-been-disrupted-300497811.html>

[2017-09-11 16:15:20] pure3d : that one is just a monitor

[2017-09-11 16:15:51] ender : Its not hard to ask a hilarious price for something, the hard part is finding dummies who pay for it :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-11 16:17:24] ender : A good way is to have no competition and existing need. (Like “i cannot use goggles but want to be able to read the screen in full direct sunlight and i hate shades or anti-glare tech”)

[2017-09-11 16:39:25] pure3d : @ender were you able to find an android device with a 1000 nits display for less than $600?

[2017-09-11 16:45:15] ender : nope thats what i am saying, the pricing is hilarious only you are f*cked if you **think** you need it :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-11 16:46:02] ender : Actually i never searched for that but i believe you guys that its rare…

[2017-09-11 16:46:16] pure3d : it's a good deal for what it offers

[2017-09-11 16:46:27] pure3d : it's not about need heh

[2017-09-11 16:46:58] ender : If you think you need it… Goggles are way better, sun shades cost $5, anti glare foil helps a lot…

[2017-09-11 16:47:22] pure3d : I scored a set of barely used Goggles for $350 shipped

[2017-09-11 16:47:49] ender : But i am the last to throw the first stone, got tons of costly tech trash that i once **thought** i need lying around here :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-09-11 16:47:51] pure3d : seems, some folks who have astigmatism can't adjust to them, even when they buy those focus helper lenses

[2017-09-11 16:48:20] pure3d : hehe what are some of those items that you fell for?

[2017-09-11 16:53:59] ender : well i would have to start with the Apple Newton... Really dont get me started. I try not to think about the List, should’ve bought Apple shares or later BitCoins for the money :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-11 16:56:32] pure3d : lol ouch Applew Newton

[2017-09-11 17:03:19] ender : At the time i was a student and it was so f*cking expensive for me and soooooo useless :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-11 17:03:36] ender : …needless to say i LOVED it…

[2017-09-11 17:04:07] pure3d : haha

[2017-09-12 04:06:49] jezzab : Do you have to take off to test gimbal head tracking with the goggles or will it work on the bench? (f*cking rain grrrr)

[2017-09-12 04:07:46] jezzab : Didnt work but I tested the RC with no tablet.

[2017-09-12 04:21:35] jezzab : nvm. Realised they had .900 on them. Downgraded to .700 to match AC and fixed

[2017-09-12 04:21:40] jezzab : Man thats pretty cool

[2017-09-12 22:22:38] pure3d : @jezzab all 3 have to have matching fw?

[2017-09-12 22:24:59] jezzab : Not sure about all three but I've tried .900 and .1000 on the Goggles with .700 on RC/AC and lose head tracking

[2017-09-12 22:25:32] jezzab : Sucks coz .1000 has a heap of extra things

[2017-09-12 22:27:44] pure3d : ah

[2017-09-12 22:27:57] pure3d : yeah no fucking way we're putting .1000 on the AC/RC

[2017-09-12 22:28:07] jezzab : Have people been mixing RC and AC fw on Mavic?

[2017-09-12 22:28:37] pure3d : I've heard of people putting their RC on the latest fw

[2017-09-12 22:28:48] pure3d : same people who run into disconnection problems

[2017-09-12 22:28:51] jezzab : Wondering what would happen if say .900 was on the remote or .1000 and then testing the goggles again.

[2017-09-12 22:29:07] jezzab : I see. Suspected that might be a problem

[2017-09-12 22:29:21] jezzab : Bugger

[2017-09-12 22:30:10] pure3d : what are the new goodies on Goggles .1000 fw?

[2017-09-12 22:32:11] jezzab : Compared to .700 you can adjust the sensitivity of the head tracking, shows number of Sats, Shows RC signal

[2017-09-12 22:32:24] jezzab : Fair few other things I cant think of off the top of my head

[2017-09-12 22:33:04] pure3d : nice

[2017-09-12 22:33:46] pure3d : so with mismatching AC/RC fw, you lose head tracking but you have the other extras or do you lose all of the extras?

[2017-09-12 22:38:51] jezzab : nah AC/RC were the same (.700) Goggles were on .900 and .1000

[2017-09-12 22:39:17] jezzab : Other features work just HT is busted. Does nothing

[2017-09-12 22:45:16] pure3d : I see

[2017-09-12 22:59:49] pure3d : HT would be weird if you were piloting and someone else was viewing

[2017-09-13 06:49:05] kilrah : HT is too imprecise to be useful anyway IMO, used to way better

[2017-09-13 07:11:28] ender : @kilrah: even my old Arduino bases APM::Copter could do a wonderful head tracking with 3-axis Gimbal, i wonder how they f*cked that one up. (not getting the DJI goggles but reading a lot of complaints about HT)

[2017-09-13 07:48:55] jezzab : Im curious to see it in .1000 with it wound back in sensitivity

[2017-09-13 07:49:06] jezzab : .700 was waaay over the top when i tried it last night

[2017-09-13 10:22:49] kilrah : better but still useless

[2017-09-13 10:23:03] kilrah : there's "noise" in the movements and a dead zone

[2017-09-16 02:10:04] czokie : Hey. Seeking any guru's to help a navigation chart... Travelling to another country - the place I want to fly has what I think is a restricted airspace designation - just need to know how to find details of the controlling authority

[2017-09-16 03:06:31] czokie : Never mind - found EAD basic access gives me what I need :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-16 16:27:26] unusuario128 : **Why** Slack instead of Gitter? - Just asking, I don't want to start the Crusades again :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-16 16:54:39] kilrah : Why gitter instead of slack? :wink:

[2017-09-16 19:28:05] unusuario128 : Well, I was asking because Gitter is open source (part of the GitLab Project) and I started using it years ago. Also its interface seems me more polished (subjective opinion)

[2017-09-16 20:41:47] dkovar : 'cause this is what we're using and changing would prompt a lot of "<https://dji-rev.slack.com/archives/C619RVB6J/p1505580879000020>"

[2017-09-16 22:37:10] khaled : Some asshole threw a rock and hit my Mavic. I feel so tempted to go and beat him up.

[2017-09-17 06:24:09] pure3d : how low were you flying which allowed him to hit it with a rock?

[2017-09-17 08:49:20] hans112 : Can that someone through really high, or did you fly really low? :thinking_face:

[2017-09-17 09:23:31] jezzab : Hows it go, something about casting the first stone.

[2017-09-17 09:24:25] jezzab : If it was pretty high and he hit the drone with the rock; he's a hell of an athlete. I probably wouldn't start a fight lol

[2017-09-17 09:26:30] jezzab : <https://media.giphy.com/media/BdAn5S0xigpO/giphy.gif>

[2017-09-17 16:46:48] czokie : <http://miscpix.com/files/6/61095.gif>

[2017-09-18 03:32:58] khaled : I was 30 metres up. I found out it wasn't a rock. He shot a bb gun or a air gun at it and hit it.

[2017-09-18 03:35:09] khaled : Local laws say I can fly as low as 30 metres. So that's how high I was as it was also a nice height to take a photo of the train coming in to collect wheat (rural area). I thought a bb gun or air gun would break it but the Mavics must be strong. Either way im angry as shit over it. No need for someone to try and shoot a drone just trying to take some photos of a train.

[2017-09-18 03:37:03] khaled : I just assumed it was a rock because I didn't think anyone would shoot a drone when it wasn't causing harm.

[2017-09-18 07:08:57] kilrah : Lots of paranoid people think any drone around is necessarily there to spy on them

[2017-09-18 10:14:51] czokie : I have a nut bag neighbour going crazy at the moment. Truth is I fly over water and maintain the required distance from people etc. I mostly do aerial stuff looking at the patterns that JetSki boats make on the river.

[2017-09-18 10:17:13] czokie : But they see drone and press the panic button.

[2017-09-18 10:28:33] jezzab : Interesting when the news is on and you see a client and his car. Was at his workshop last week working on another car for him: <http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/09/18/16/25/hoons-do-burnout-while-being-towed-on-freeway>

[2017-09-18 10:32:35] jezzab : Funny but not smart lol

[2017-09-18 13:09:05] kilrah : lol backfiring much

[2017-09-18 13:09:14] kilrah : do it at the show, not on public roads...

[2017-09-18 17:06:45] bin4ry : Tbh guy looks a bit like me on a bad day :joy:

[2017-09-18 18:20:59] unusuario128 : Practical example of the wrong side of the stock photos: <https://imgur.com/ajhMRaJ>

[2017-09-18 18:51:23] pure3d : all of these people should have 4th degree burns on their fingers and hands

[2017-09-18 21:13:56] haloweenhamster : Someone got annoyed with mavic pilots? Was down this morning and been down for about 3 hours

[2017-09-18 21:50:31] haloweenhamster : 4 out of 9 of their websites are down

[2017-09-19 07:57:01] unusuario128 : @czokie: UID 0 :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-19 07:58:17] unusuario128 : Thanks! This was only a couple of minutes with Inkscape after seeing the other drawing.

[2017-09-19 19:14:26] hotelzululima : seemed to come right up now though..

[2017-09-19 19:15:24] czokie : @hotelzululima You sound like someone else :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-19 19:16:12] haloweenhamster : that's why I thought someone might of been malicious

[2017-09-19 19:16:14] czokie : @unusuario128 - Upload it to the wiki media collection if you get a chance - @hostile - same for yours - better to keep it there before it gets lost with a slack cleanup :slightly_smiling_face: ....

[2017-09-19 19:16:48] unusuario128 : @czokie: Do you mean **the** wiki?

[2017-09-19 19:16:55] czokie : yeah...

[2017-09-19 19:16:57] unusuario128 : I never touched it.

[2017-09-19 19:17:02] unusuario128 : I'll try now

[2017-09-19 19:17:06] czokie : First time for everything

[2017-09-19 19:17:10] unusuario128 : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-19 19:17:24] czokie : I'd do it - but I am still in packing mode

[2017-09-19 19:17:36] czokie : my laptop is all thats left before some fun travel

[2017-09-19 19:17:58] czokie : and not feeling motivated about uploading pictures :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-19 19:18:16] unusuario128 : ¡Mph!

[2017-09-19 19:18:18] unusuario128 : > Sorry, you don't have enough rights to upload files.

[2017-09-19 19:18:35] czokie : Dont upload to root

[2017-09-19 19:18:39] czokie : Stick it in a folder

[2017-09-19 19:20:36] unusuario128 : SVG is a forbidden extension.

[2017-09-19 19:21:49] unusuario128 : I also get all my activities suspended when traveling, and believe me, even if the travel will be fun, the interruption all is a bit disgusting.

[2017-09-19 19:27:00] unusuario128 : Really, the drawing is ludicrously horrible. However, maybe some user with designer soul can do it better.

[2017-09-19 19:27:16] unusuario128 : I find the concept great, though a bit silly.

[2017-09-19 19:31:17] czokie : Glad I did update before going on the road - xcode 5.39 GB download without wifi = bad :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-19 19:34:30] unusuario128 : Yes.

[2017-09-19 19:35:07] unusuario128 : I don't use xcode so much and install all the tools that I need from `brew`

[2017-09-19 19:42:03] unusuario128 :

[2017-09-20 08:24:33] ender : <---- Hates Balaclavas

[2017-09-20 15:47:51] ender : Are there any OpenGL Wizards here ? (OT, need advise for work, our OpenGL guy is away and i can hardly grok the stuff)

[2017-09-20 17:53:05] jcarlo : I have a neighbor who also a dream be pilot who claims privacy and I wasn't even flying over his property. I was in front of my house SMDH

[2017-09-21 02:04:26] czokie : Hi from the Philippines :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-21 02:24:10] jezzab : Hi

[2017-09-21 02:24:27] jezzab : *yells louder coz your further away now*

[2017-09-21 02:37:47] czokie : Already flown over our farm property

[2017-09-21 02:37:53] czokie : Different perspective

[2017-09-21 02:41:09] czokie : But this bloody high cpu shit is driving me crazy

[2017-09-21 02:42:29] czokie : mobile device cpu fully loaded

[2017-09-21 02:47:38] jezzab : Go4 app?

[2017-09-21 02:48:12] jezzab : You have a CS dont you?

[2017-09-21 03:05:18] czokie : CS?

[2017-09-21 03:05:38] hotelzululima : CrystalSky

[2017-09-21 03:05:42] czokie : Nah.

[2017-09-21 03:05:49] czokie : iPhone 6 Plus

[2017-09-21 03:06:02] czokie : Rumours tell me - turn off video caching will make it work...

[2017-09-21 06:14:53] kilrah : Wasn’t that supposed to be fixed a couple of GO4 versions ago?

[2017-09-21 06:50:52] jezzab : They STILL havent released a new P4 fw.

[2017-09-21 09:05:01] czokie : Its still crap on .9. Gonna try .10 tomorrow.

[2017-09-21 11:06:24] jezzab : #include <unusuario128.h>

[2017-09-21 11:07:21] unusuario128 : `#pragma once`

[2017-09-21 11:07:25] unusuario128 : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-21 11:27:38] jan2642 : nfs mount and compile native ?

[2017-09-21 11:44:16] unusuario128 : I don't know up to which extent would be easier to port Debian than cross-compiling for Android. :grinning:

[2017-09-21 11:50:35] jezzab : I'm sure there is a witty acronym for NDK that portrays pain and suffering

[2017-09-21 11:53:22] unusuario128 : Talking about libboost and failing :disappointed:

[2017-09-22 01:21:40] jabulonboaz : Apologies for these off topic questions but i am new to Spark and i want to alter it the same way i did my mavic. So I have Mavic that I have moded the params via assistant debug mode and using a moded app with the fcc and login bypass. I am getting my hands on a Spark with the RC very soon. I want to ask u what do i do when i get the Spark i so i can alter it like i did my Mavic? I like to use a moded app to work with the Mavic and the Spark so i can stop the Spark from asking for a mandatory FW upgrade the first time i fire it up? And for that moded app to include the FCC mode for Spark if it exists? Then how can i activate FCC mode in the go app for the spark, is it the same way as the Mavic? To mod the parameters of the Spark do i use the same version of assistant i have used for the mavic and do i activate debug mode the same way i did for the mavic? Are the Spark params the same as the Mavic’s? Thank u in advance.

[2017-09-22 02:20:12] andrwho25 : dang the stock spark descends incredibly slowly. has anyone tweaked this at all ?

[2017-09-22 06:24:53] kilrah : sure

[2017-09-22 06:46:30] kvn : Follow this tuto to access the dji assistant param

[2017-09-22 06:46:31] kvn : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkpfC56u_ak>

[2017-09-22 06:46:36] kvn : then edit the param

[2017-09-22 08:39:07] haloweenhamster : Out of curiosity has anyone installed any of the dji go 4 versions on a android TV os? Tried to install on my TV just to see if it can be done but it fails

[2017-09-22 14:32:10] rpdgeorge : hi guys. im using android djigo 4.1.3 modded version with 01.01.0900fw, skipped login, everything is fine except the waypoint function. is there any newer djigo4 modded version? or any way to use the waypoint mode with 4.1.3?

[2017-09-22 14:33:35] cs2000 : ~android_apk_patching

[2017-09-22 14:40:52] rpdgeorge : @cs2000 thank you very much!

[2017-09-22 14:49:42] cs2000 : no problem :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-24 04:29:06] czokie : Just doing my first pix4d mission. Flight time was 22.5 mins. Brand new battery. First flight. Yet still did rth 30 seconds early on a p4p. Doh

[2017-09-24 04:57:05] jezzab : Im gonna lose my shit. Bought a vacuum cleaner from a retailer today. They offered to SMS me a digital copy of my receipt and i accepted. 39 messages I have gotten now and they are at 1min 30 sec intervals. The store cannot stop it and claim only "head office" can which is closed. This better not continue through the night.......

[2017-09-24 04:57:45] czokie : which retailer?

[2017-09-24 04:58:41] jezzab : JB Hifi

[2017-09-24 04:58:53] czokie : Hmm.

[2017-09-24 04:59:01] jezzab : Its still going

[2017-09-24 04:59:03] jezzab : 37 now

[2017-09-24 04:59:11] czokie : Ask if they can ammend your receipt in their POS and put the phone number of their store manager in there in place of yours

[2017-09-24 04:59:12] czokie : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-24 04:59:39] czokie : Or better still - ask for the regional manager - put his number in there :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-24 04:59:47] jezzab : HAHA

[2017-09-24 05:00:16] jezzab : 38

[2017-09-24 05:00:23] czokie : And if they say "We cannot change it" ... ask for his number anyway so you can make a complaint - then go back to the store and make a $1 purchase, and ask for a receipt to "your phone number" .... and provide his :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-24 05:00:34] czokie : Problem solved

[2017-09-24 05:00:35] jezzab : Bwhaha love it

[2017-09-24 05:01:07] czokie : I am doing image download with pix4d - bloody slow!

[2017-09-24 05:01:55] czokie : I've got 418 images... On the assumption that 418 frames get transmitted as video VERY fast, I dont know why its so damm slow.

[2017-09-24 05:02:51] czokie : Had to change out the battery on the p4p - now worried if the IPAD will last the distance before it gets all the shots

[2017-09-24 05:05:05] jezzab : Ive never used Pix4D. Any good?

[2017-09-24 05:05:39] jezzab : Yeah but you will only have 1 image per 8 images with h264

[2017-09-24 05:06:12] czokie : I have seen a mate use it - and do some amazing things with it.

[2017-09-24 05:06:17] jezzab : Ive been trying how to fix the GOP frame (flickering, pulsing) with the Mav without having to spend $150 USD on Flicker Free

[2017-09-24 05:06:48] jezzab : if you set sharpness to 0 or -1 its fine but makes things muddy

[2017-09-24 05:06:55] jezzab : going to try 2.7K next time

[2017-09-24 05:06:59] czokie : Building a 3d digital terrain - and then throwing simulated water on the model to see where it flowed... Freaky stuff... Was able to solve a complex drainage problem that had plagued a town for years with the model.

[2017-09-24 05:07:04] jezzab : WOW

[2017-09-24 05:07:39] czokie : This is my first time to try it out - so still learning.

[2017-09-24 05:07:58] czokie : But completed a double grid mission - just waiting to get the shots :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-09-24 05:11:53] jezzab : Im gonna have to check it out.

[2017-09-24 05:15:53] jezzab : Wow that pricing is... wow

[2017-09-24 05:23:23] czokie : Yep.... But the capture component is $0

[2017-09-24 05:23:39] czokie : Lots of alternatives now for processing the images...

[2017-09-24 05:25:43] jezzab : Ok so you run the app and choose the mapping type of grid etc and rip the images?

[2017-09-24 05:26:20] czokie : Pix4d capture will do the pre programmed mission, and take the pictures.... U can get them from there and do whatever you like with them.

[2017-09-24 05:26:58] czokie : For a commercial gig, it might be easy enough to use their software with a monthly license, and charge that fee to a client (plus your time) to cover the license....

[2017-09-24 05:28:33] jezzab : Sounds like something pretty cool to play with. Tell me how you go

[2017-09-24 05:32:10] jezzab : Hmm I think the SMS's have stopped. The tally was 52. Called and this time they were very very apologetic and I am not alone

[2017-09-24 05:32:29] jezzab : "IT team is looking into it, other stores and people have called"

[2017-09-24 05:32:43] czokie : Wonder if it made twitter?

[2017-09-24 05:32:53] jezzab : I have visions of someone cutting a hard line with an axe

[2017-09-24 05:33:21] jezzab : crap, forgot about Twitter

[2017-09-24 05:34:11] czokie : Nothing obvious

[2017-09-24 05:34:41] czokie : But this was a bit of a laugh

[2017-09-24 05:35:24] jezzab : lol

[2017-09-24 05:35:34] jezzab : Its a "new system" apparently

[2017-09-24 05:36:38] czokie : Back to pix4d - 84 out of 418 images downloaded to ipad so far - Ipad will run out of battery before it completes. Already needed a new battery in the P4P. Something not working as designed me thinks.

[2017-09-24 05:36:47] jezzab : My God

[2017-09-24 05:37:38] jezzab : Can you download them directly from the iPad or have to use their PC app or something to rip them?

[2017-09-24 05:37:55] czokie : Cancelling that... Will get em off SD card - but dont know how to get them to the IPAD app or what it will do when they get there (if they got there)

[2017-09-24 05:38:16] jezzab : Oh they are saved to the SD, right

[2017-09-24 05:38:52] jezzab : I really need to read up the process/how it works

[2017-09-24 05:39:24] jezzab : oh and the Goggles on the bench plugged in with ADB on; I forgot about them last night. 11 hours later, 23% left lol

[2017-09-24 05:39:29] czokie : I'd be happier if it worked with direct cable to P4P

[2017-09-24 05:39:35] jezzab : They never die!

[2017-09-24 05:39:40] czokie : yep

[2017-09-24 05:46:28] jezzab : We're getting close with the media player stuff on the Goggles. @unusuario128 has been compiling a million and 1 versions. Trying to get the Hantro enc/dec to work

[2017-09-29 02:21:16] arrvodesign : I know some of you heard about VPS issue with Mavic Pro some time ago, when the drone climbs up uncontrollability ... I turned off the Landing Protection (Android) and Calibrated the drone multiple times but sometimes it still shows near the land while in flight and it doesn't descent fast at that point, need to wait until it goes back to normal then it moves down fast. Haven't heard the news recently so if anyone knows was it a hardware issue or does the last firmware solves it? (I am on 700). Also, any chance some of the specs can be adjusted or controlled through Parameters adjustment? Thanks

[2017-09-29 18:01:13] pure3d : @85yongyong I believe one antenna is RX-only and the other is TX-only

[2017-09-29 20:10:26] darksimpson : One antenna is RX only and (sic!) RX-ing diversity with other. Left antenna is RX/TX. It is not possible to simply TX into two antennas as it requires a calibrated and thoroughly calculated grid array and huge signal processing on TX phases, and power increase still will be not so much, only direction improvements. So they simply (rightly) decided to use one for TX.

[2017-09-30 02:39:51] 85yongyong : @darksimpson@pure3d Thank you

[2017-09-30 23:53:32] czokie : Some how, I got onto a Chinese language DJI marketing list...

[2017-10-01 07:27:15] kilrah : also received it...

[2017-10-01 14:20:48] kilrah : <https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/32405> :joy: :joy:

[2017-10-02 20:52:16] kilrah : no need to go crazy, what you point to simply won't work with antennas that can be moved around by the user at the wavelength scale...

[2017-10-03 04:56:23] 85yongyong : @hotelzululima So does the antenna on the mavic rc both doing transmitting and receiving?

[2017-10-03 07:25:12] andrwho25 : i bought the same kit and probably won't do the mod in fear of looking like a mad scientist

[2017-10-03 07:54:42] jezzab : I have been looking at doing those amps and a Itelite DBS antenna. But I dont wanna look, like you said above, a wild mad scientist. And think it might be a pain to put away. Im still not sure and divided. Just want a bit more range.

[2017-10-03 07:55:37] jezzab : Those Madonna boob ones above scare me lol but work well apparently

[2017-10-03 07:57:24] jezzab : I also use the USB port. But could get a longer OTG cable I suppose

[2017-10-03 10:19:23] jezzab : I have been looking at doing those amps and a Itelite DBS antenna. (NanoSync) But I dont wanna look, like you said above, a wild mad scientist. And think it might be a pain to put away. Im still not sure and divided. Just want a bit more range.

[2017-10-03 10:42:17] jezzab : How are you powering those Sunhans @soddy ? Aren’t they 12v?

[2017-10-03 11:07:32] 85yongyong : Sunhans is very costly:sweat_smile:

[2017-10-03 11:13:42] soddy : It's cheaper than the all-in-one alientech, its more steady n you can swap between different antennas.

[2017-10-03 11:15:42] jezzab : Just ordered basically the same as all your gear but with a nanosync. See how it goes

[2017-10-03 11:15:54] jezzab : Just can’t stand those boobies antennas lol

[2017-10-03 11:30:33] soddy : Nanosync is great! I don't use it coz already got the DBS n the boobies is lighter n not so directional.

[2017-10-03 11:30:58] soddy : It's normal

[2017-10-03 11:31:39] 85yongyong : @soddy What is thw wattage for your amp? Mine is 4w

[2017-10-03 11:33:19] soddy : 9V~12V

[2017-10-03 11:33:51] soddy : 3.5W

[2017-10-03 11:35:13] haloweenhamster : What kind of power are you actually using? How much gain do the amps have?

[2017-10-03 11:54:28] jezzab : Based on the specs. 3W, 14dB to 17dB gain transmit, less than or equal to 13dB recv

[2017-10-03 11:59:47] haloweenhamster : Is that for @85yongyong 4w amp or @soddy 3.5w amp? Only noticed sunhans mentioned

[2017-10-03 12:00:23] jezzab : Soddy. Based on I got the same ones (visually)

[2017-10-03 12:01:25] jezzab : I assume they are the same. Didn’t see any 3.5w the same. But fleaBay sellers call them what they want

[2017-10-03 12:02:25] haloweenhamster : Cheers I have been looking at increasing power just a bit short on cash at the mo

[2017-10-03 12:04:44] jezzab : As of 10 mins ago I am too. Baked beans time

[2017-10-03 12:05:15] haloweenhamster : <https://www.commandcase.com/atlas> Was looking at this but it seems pricey and in America I'm UK

[2017-10-03 12:43:06] soddy : Sorry, it's Sunhans 3W!

[2017-10-03 14:46:06] darksimpson : I know about this all, thanks. We need to start that they do not have any coaxial matching in the circuitry. One antenna, one amplifier, one switch, one independent tx/rx for every antenna/channel. Also, using coaxial matching you need to maintain known spacing and positioning in array. Using mavic rc it is impossible to do it right, as user can position two antennas as he want. In small wavelenghts it can be critical so at least needs some signal processing to adjust to changing environment. DJI simply decided not to mess with this all things and simply made only one antenna tx like in conventional SIMO system. In other case I can't see any problem transmitting using two antennas, right? Ah, also having a similar circuitry means that they need signal processing even in simple case of two adjusted antennas, as they need to manipulate phases/gains programmatically in modem software to get something reasonable. At least you can google about beamforming, steering and other things in context of mimo antennae systems f.e. in wi-fi routers applications. <https://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://djw.cs.washington.edu/papers/mimo_for_dummies.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjy1bCi1dTWAhVmIJoKHTwXB1YQFghGMAQ&usg=AOvVaw3cvIK3Tibl6RmFWTEcScnb>

[2017-10-03 14:49:11] darksimpson :

[2017-10-03 14:54:44] darksimpson : As we say here in our lab "small wavelenghts - great responsibility" :)

[2017-10-03 15:45:28] darksimpson : I ve disassembled it far time ago

[2017-10-03 15:45:58] darksimpson : posted pics in hw etc

[2017-10-03 15:46:56] darksimpson : So nevermind

[2017-10-03 16:17:58] 85yongyong : Mine was this cheap amplifier. 4W 4000mW 802.11b/g/n Wifi Wireless Amplifier Router 2.4Ghz WLAN ZigBee Bluetooth Signal Booster with Antenna TDD for computer <http://s.aliexpress.com/aqMJFV3Y> (from AliExpress Android)

[2017-10-03 16:23:40] darksimpson : @85yongyong So 1 antenna for tx/rx, one antenna for rx only

[2017-10-03 16:33:06] andrwho25 : hmm does this commandcase atlas thing work for the spark ? :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-10-03 16:38:34] haloweenhamster : So its got higher output than the 3w amp but less gain, only 10db compared to 17db

[2017-10-03 16:40:12] haloweenhamster : 7db is 5x gain difference if I've worked it out correctly

[2017-10-03 16:41:08] haloweenhamster : Only just started looking at TX/rx stuff, I'm used to opamp gain

[2017-10-03 16:42:58] coldflake : I made a roof antenna for my P4 with 3W sunhans amps and a a 15m cable between the amps and the controlelr

[2017-10-03 16:43:07] coldflake : this enables me to fly while sitting at my desk

[2017-10-03 16:43:44] coldflake : it is just ordinary WiFi amps BUT it is very important which antennas you use and also the spacing between the antenna is insanely important

[2017-10-03 16:44:34] coldflake : DJI does some kind of trick and if the spacing between the two antennas are too wide the signal goes from brilliant to utter useless

[2017-10-03 16:46:15] coldflake : After fiddling around with it for a couple of days I got a somewhat OK result. I can fly 8 km away and still have full video withuot any problems. I can land with full signal within 5 km range. It also has to be added that I use FCC mode which is very important because otherwise the bird is too weak to do any good with the boosted signal from the RC

[2017-10-03 16:47:00] coldflake : It doesn't help much to just boost one end

[2017-10-03 16:47:57] coldflake : If I connect my WiFi router to the roof antenna I have much stronger signal but the range is still limited due to the weak WiFi transceiver in the mobile device.

[2017-10-03 16:49:09] coldflake : Also the frequency is important obviously and on P4 it is only 2.4Ghz to deal with

[2017-10-03 17:10:30] andrwho25 : that’s amazing

[2017-10-03 17:15:02] andrwho25 : do we have anyone in here that sells remote mods ? :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-10-03 17:34:56] quad808 : I would be interested too, since I know squat about all of this boobie business. Well...not THOSE boobies...LOL

[2017-10-03 17:35:53] quad808 : Is there one single antenna upgrade package that is recommended? Doesn't need to be the strongest, just a good all around value. Boobies are fine.

[2017-10-03 17:49:37] andrwho25 : lots of them require remote mods to switch to standard antennas

[2017-10-03 17:51:35] andrwho25 : wonder why the mavic has more range. is it purely transmission power from remote ?

[2017-10-03 17:52:02] quad808 : Looking at the cheap "boobie" kits on ebay...just changing the antennas to these, is an improvement without adding any signal booster? Thats about the limit of my knowledge...

[2017-10-04 09:12:16] czokie : Total off topic - I am in a crap mood. Working on family PBX (asterisk) using Cisco SPA8000's with 8 extensions connected to each one. Firstly, the phones have suffered corrosion in the guest rooms on the phone connectors - due to humidity in Philippines. Effect: High resistance = causing the SPA8000 to do weird shit. Next, trying to get the dialplan working to do 2 stage dialing (dial 9) .... but its not playing ball. Sigh

[2017-10-04 12:20:56] guest : how does the diallplan look like?

[2017-10-04 12:31:08] czokie : (9,[2-9]xxxxxxS0|9,02xxxxxxxS0|9,0[3-8]xxxxxxxxS0|9,09xxxxxxxxxS0|9,011x.|9,1x.|[1234]xxS0|0S0|*xx.|#xx.|xx.)

[2017-10-04 12:31:17] czokie : That is one incantation anyway.... Tried lots

[2017-10-04 12:31:29] czokie : Actually - that is a bad example...

[2017-10-04 12:31:34] czokie : (9,[2-9]xxxxxxS0|9,02xxxxxxxS0|9,0[3-8]xxxxxxxxS0|9,09xxxxxxxxxS0|9,011x.|9,1x.|[1234]xxS0|0S0|*xx.|#xx.)

[2017-10-04 12:31:42] czokie : Need to take the last group out.

[2017-10-04 12:32:10] czokie : The final one only matches on 9, which should do 2 stage dialing.... but its totally apeshit - just not working.

[2017-10-04 12:32:46] czokie : I eventually changed the dialplan to something like (P0:0) to get it to auto timeout and auto dial 0 - but even that failed... The boxes are just doing weird shit.

[2017-10-06 09:21:14] czokie : Something funny just now...

[2017-10-06 09:22:33] czokie : The cert for this is from Symantec. If I remember correctly - Chrome was going to stop trusting Symantec certs.... It would be so funny if Apple stopped trusting them as well... causing this :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-10-06 09:36:57] czokie : VeriSign Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority - G5 reports as "SHA1withRSA INSECURE" ... It would be funny if apple implemented blocks on that.... Time will tell....

[2017-10-06 10:09:37] kilrah : lol

[2017-10-06 14:12:56] venom-code : is it ok to to talk about another brand or product/drones etc?

[2017-10-06 14:13:53] czokie : I was just asleep - and had a call from someone in africa wanting to talk to me about business

[2017-10-06 14:13:58] czokie : (skype call)

[2017-10-06 14:14:31] czokie : he said he worked for a bank.... but had a chinese accent

[2017-10-06 14:14:34] czokie : Sigh

[2017-10-06 14:14:47] czokie : from africa?

[2017-10-06 15:32:48] triangular : @venom-code this is the ~random channel. If its applicable, sure.

[2017-10-06 15:38:43] venom-code : i had collected some money and handed it to someone to get me a Parrot Disco fixed wing, as many of you are experienced i thought i should ask you guys if there are any hacks for that like altering the parameters, by passing altitude and increasing speed etc, FCC mod, because apparently the wifi for europe etc are much more limited compared to US

[2017-10-06 15:39:41] venom-code : or any directions/weblinks, community etc i should visit?

[2017-10-06 16:00:03] triangular : I dont own a Parrot, but I found a page for the BeBop. It generally indicates that its device dependent. There is also a section on the Sky Controller regulation, which is the RC dedicated hardware. Here some relevant info: Regulation Each Wifi device must meet the standards of the country in which it is used. This applies to your device and obviously to the Parrot products (in particluar, Bebop and Skycontroller). Each country imposes a maximum power and a set of authorized channels. (See Table below) Country Settings: By default, the selected setting is AUTO. Bebop Drone scans the surrounding WiFi networks and select the country it detects in the beacon frames, according to the international standard 802.11d. So it is definitely hackable since it switches power modes and takes its location from either your own phone or from surrounding network streams. Shouldnt be hard to find a forum about it, if such a scene exists. I'd try searching RC Groups first. Here's the page I got this info from, lots more info on this scrolling page <http://blog.parrot.com/2014/11/28/parrot-bebop-drones-flight-range-test/>

[2017-10-06 16:02:09] triangular : The maximal range reached by the Bebop Drone is highly correlated to the device (see Table above). Note that intrinsic Wifi performances of Bebop enable it to reach 2km with Skycontroller in optimal conditions.

[2017-10-06 16:03:20] triangular : Maybe they have a similar page on the Disco, but I think a lot of the same info will be the same since its all about regulations. A lot of info on that page I linked. Good place to start probably.

[2017-10-06 16:13:30] triangular : Well it just takes a little googling. I found two threads you should camp out on: <https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2728773-Official-Parrot-Disco-%2A%2A%2AOwner-s-Thread%2A%2A%2A/page52> and <https://community.parrot.com/t5/forums/searchpage/tab/message?filter=location&q=hack&advanced=false&location=category:EN>

[2017-10-06 16:21:59] venom-code : thanks allot, i have already been reading these since morning, just wanted to know if anyone here shared the passion :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-10-06 17:01:55] quad808 : I have a passion. That passion doesn't include sending all my data to Dji. OG's. You rule.:crown:

[2017-10-07 23:36:29] czokie : I just won the lottery.

[2017-10-07 23:36:36] czokie : 3 times in a row!

[2017-10-07 23:37:19] czokie : For return flight home, we asked for business upgrade... (I have half a million points)

[2017-10-07 23:37:36] czokie : and we got upgrade for myself, wife, and daughter.

[2017-10-07 23:38:50] czokie : The secret: The airline was advertising about new products where you can earn points in facebook. I posted that "Yeah... Great to earn - but you'll win the lottery before you can use em for an upgrade - lets see how we go on the way home" .... And what do you know - We're in row # 1

[2017-10-08 05:54:48] jezzab : Beer + Bathurst 1000 FTW

[2017-10-08 06:41:15] kilrah : lol

[2017-10-08 21:25:15] jezzab : @czokie Just looking at getting an ARN, you are not allowed to use a drivers license for ID but your allowed to email an uncertified copy of your birth certificate lol wtf and the ID check is just to make sure here aren’t duplicates

[2017-10-09 03:47:43] jezzab : Sometimes its best to open the stuff you get from china to see if it will burn your house down. 12v/9v/5v Lipo 3-1 powerpack the main power switch positive terminal was jammed hard into an induction coil. The coating on the copper wire wouldn't have lasted long....

[2017-10-09 05:42:02] kilrah : wow

[2017-10-09 05:51:01] jezzab : Must have used a different switch coz it was cheaper then the one they copied or something

[2017-10-09 18:06:00] paul : So i've seen some speculation that overall DJI's go 4 platform was hacked. Pilot data was leaked to outside 3rd party. I was looking through the slack page but can't seem to find it. Have you guys seen anything?

[2017-10-09 18:13:57] bin4ry : Where did you hear such things? You have made me interested

[2017-10-09 19:40:21] paul : dji site, customer service and phone group was down on friday.

[2017-10-09 21:03:29] nocommie : interesting

[2017-10-09 21:10:35] freaky123 : There was also an holiday in china last week (golden week)

[2017-10-09 23:15:58] dkovar : So, under certain circumstances, the DJI SDK may report telemetry to a third party service. What exactly is included with that telemetry is an unknown. I'm waiting for an appropriate legal case to file a subpoena on that third party but if someone were to RE the right code, they might find proof.

[2017-10-10 07:32:15] czokie : That was an earlier version. If I remember correctly, that was sent together with the list of apps that they used to have sent. That module has been since removed.

[2017-10-10 17:16:09] kyokushin : <https://forum.dji.com/thread-114937-1-1.html> interesting topic about compass error

[2017-10-10 19:13:28] kilrah : full of trash info too... usual people not understanding why compass is essential. Stopped losing my time answering those long ago...

[2017-10-11 12:50:46] mefisto : I've noticed slack visits the links you post. I wonder what would happen if I posted a link which does some injection..

[2017-10-11 13:00:13] bin4ry : Lol

[2017-10-11 13:00:26] bin4ry : Good idea :wink:

[2017-10-12 18:38:47] brd_gsm : what agent does slack use to visit the links @mefisto?

[2017-10-12 18:42:02] mefisto : Did not tried that.

[2017-10-12 18:42:17] hostile : @mefisto people have done that with image files with 0day in them… to exploit backend platforms that scrub exif and shit (before facebook image post for example)

[2017-10-12 18:46:57] mefisto : Hm, interesting. I would probably start simpler, maybe by checking if they escape the html tags correctly. The title tag is surely parsed.

[2017-10-19 08:22:16] arrvodesign : btw, it’s great show … season 3 already ongoing

[2017-10-19 08:34:13] czokie : If we're gonna talk about TV - this is the place for it - Twin Peaks Season 3 - Loved it. #itishappeningagain

[2017-10-19 11:42:48] haloweenhamster : I'm sure I've still got a EISA sound card at my parents

[2017-10-19 13:31:22] hostile : @arrvodesign my work hacking Police Cars was quoted via the script in Season One, Several of my peers quoted too.. Their research team does a great job reaching out to the community.

[2017-10-19 13:58:28] arrvodesign : @hostile lol, nice!

[2017-10-19 16:28:21] quad808 : Whats the name of the series above??

[2017-10-19 16:29:13] nocommie : Mr Robot I think

[2017-10-19 16:33:04] opcode : Yeah, mr robot on amazon prime video

[2017-10-19 16:33:58] quad808 : Thanks! I think someone told me about that show...have to watch it, sounds like fun!

[2017-10-19 19:45:21] andrwho25 : I used to love that show but I couldnt get passed season 2

[2017-10-19 20:40:51] hostile : yeah I got stuck on season 2 also

[2017-10-19 20:40:55] hostile : the rampup was awful

[2017-10-19 21:40:20] jan2642 : Yes, that took ages.. second half was a lot better.

[2017-10-19 21:45:47] jezzab : Same here. I actually watched up to half and dropped it for a while and then came back to it because I had nothing else.

[2017-10-20 08:18:27] opcode : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOgzobqcq1M&feature=youtu.be>

[2017-10-20 08:18:31] opcode : lol

[2017-10-20 18:53:45] gyorgytamasdaniel : Hello guys! I am a sad Spark owner. I really want to use the waypoints function. I've read almost all of your readmes' and howtos'. And I really liked them, thank you very much! I tried to find a thread in slack about this topic, but I cannot find one. I used @bin4ry 's patcher app with an apk file. I installed it, and I could plan a flight. But I couldn't download the plan to the Spark. If I reflash the Spark with your firmware, will it solve the problem? Are there any possibilities to use waypoints function on Spark?

[2017-10-20 18:55:43] kilrah : No.

[2017-10-20 18:56:17] kilrah : Maybe some 3rd party apps like autopilot that can do app-controlled waypoint nav?

[2017-10-20 18:58:27] gyorgytamasdaniel : So only on iOS?

[2017-10-20 19:02:32] gyorgytamasdaniel : thank you for your answer!

[2017-10-20 19:03:42] kilrah : you need to look, if I remember well autopilot does it on some aircraft but it may not be the only one and may or may not be compatible with spark.

[2017-10-20 19:04:32] kilrah : just a pointer that you might want to look at 3rd party apps.

[2017-10-20 19:05:18] hostile : best to see if DJI Sdk even supports spark Nav… basically if Litchi does it… would be my rule of thumb

[2017-10-20 19:07:52] gyorgytamasdaniel : I've already searched about it. Autopilot only available for Apple users. Litchi is not supports waypoints for Spark. :cold_sweat:

[2017-10-20 19:08:20] kilrah : I doubt it, the point of autopilot is that it has its own waypoint nav (basically it just sends stick commands that make it go where you planned instead of using the built-in waypoints system that it seems the spark doesn’t have)

[2017-10-20 19:09:47] gyorgytamasdaniel : so I need to buy the app and get an Iphone :sweat_smile:

[2017-10-20 19:10:41] hostile : ‘Litchi is not supports waypoints for Spark.’ then I suspect others will not either. this is an SDK level thing. IF litchi could have it… they would

[2017-10-20 19:11:07] hostile : any SDK user can send stick commands fwiw

[2017-10-20 19:11:17] hostile : write your own sdk app if need be

[2017-10-20 19:12:53] gyorgytamasdaniel : I am thinking about it. But I wasn't shure that there is no soution for it yet.

[2017-10-20 19:12:59] kilrah : yup autoflight does seem to support spark with their custom waypoint controller <https://autoflight.hangar.com/autopilot/flightschool#mode-waypoint>

[2017-10-20 19:13:14] kilrah : obviously you’re limited to being within rc range

[2017-10-20 19:15:25] gyorgytamasdaniel : I can accept that

[2017-10-21 04:19:52] bin4ry : Little correction here, I think waypoints work at a later firmware on spark. Saw a video of someone using it with go. I really have no idea about the correct combination but you should be able to find someone in ~android_apk_patching

[2017-10-23 19:21:46] guest : Any Winautomation gurus here?

[2017-10-23 19:30:54] hostile : for what purpose?

[2017-10-24 10:10:25] guest : Needed to automate something (not dji related), Got it solved by using a regular expression within Winautomation. So no help needed anymore.

[2017-10-24 13:42:38] venom-code : good

[2017-10-25 05:00:19] jezzab : Finally got a chance to test the amps. Gotta work out how to make a mount up or print one yet

[2017-10-25 05:01:49] czokie : Fun

[2017-10-25 05:04:42] jezzab : usually the area i test in I get about 4km and it starts to drop and then cut out (stock)

[2017-10-25 05:05:10] jezzab : made 5km and dropped only a single bar of reception. Video was starting to drop from HD. Im impressed

[2017-10-25 10:23:08] cs2000 : What amps did you get @jezzab. Im guessing this is using the force fcc hack too? Just a shame this stuff doesnt fit in that tiny Fly More combo bag!

[2017-10-25 10:24:34] jezzab : 2 x Sunhans 3W

[2017-10-25 10:25:58] jezzab : Tell me about it. I have a great hard case I used to fit everything in perfectly but not now

[2017-10-25 10:26:16] jezzab : Only thing that sucks

[2017-10-25 10:27:47] jezzab : I’ve gotta have a play with breaking it down and making everything fit

[2017-10-25 10:29:25] cs2000 : I might take a look, i love the flymore bag, watched youtube tutorials and got everything packed in it, its very well made and tiny, but theres like 0 extra room!

[2017-10-25 10:29:48] cs2000 : Also id guess at that point the battery is the limiting factor. WOnder what max range would be including the trip home?

[2017-10-25 10:31:45] jezzab : I went 5km out and 5km back and landed with 26% battery

[2017-10-25 10:32:25] jezzab : Maintaining around 50kmh there and back. 100m alt

[2017-10-25 10:33:21] cs2000 : wow thats damn far! most ive ever got with line of sight and FCC hack (albeit across a city) is 1.2km

[2017-10-25 10:34:12] cs2000 : im sure the city's RF interference has plenty to do with that, but yours is impressive range to say you only lost 1 bar too!

[2017-10-25 10:34:20] jezzab : I’m in the burbs but stock and fcc get around 4km before it cuts out usually. Busier areas less

[2017-10-25 10:34:50] cs2000 : Got a link to what/where you purchased?

[2017-10-25 10:35:41] arrvodesign : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibqe51-b_TI>

[2017-10-25 10:36:07] jezzab : Nanosync only I got 4km but kept holding around 2 bars down (mid way) then drop out. Sorry I remember stock I would get a lot less. Stock around 3km I think it was in my normal test area

[2017-10-25 10:37:40] jezzab : It’s a NanoSync, 2x 3W Sunhans and a 12v lipo (actually a 3 in 1 12v/9v/5v )

[2017-10-25 10:58:41] cs2000 : Nice, Gopro mount !

[2017-10-25 11:25:19] jezzab : I like that GoPro mount idea. Very nice.

[2017-10-25 12:26:38] czokie : Non DJI question for any network geeks...

[2017-10-25 12:27:43] czokie : This graph is what i see in terms of network performance on a ethernet over powerline within my house. These delays appear to be regular.... Curious what others have experienced if anything in terms of performance for their ethernet over powerline gear

[2017-10-25 12:30:50] cs2000 : I thing the general consensus is that power-line networking isnt good. I mean, it works, but what with all of the unregulated devices you can buy online and plug in to your house power circuit it looks to me like some kind of interference on the power lines

[2017-10-25 12:32:34] cs2000 : I ran some in my flat, bought some decent branded ones and pulled the out 1-2 months later because if inconsistant performance

[2017-10-25 12:33:53] jezzab : I’ve only got one pair left. I was having issues. Not too bad but annoying, TPLink

[2017-10-25 12:34:29] jezzab : And I ended up with AC1900 wireless so my devices got faster going to wifi anyway

[2017-10-25 12:45:18] czokie : This device is my DHCP server - but its in a room with no copper... wifi is undesirable for a dhcp server :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-10-25 12:46:12] jezzab : How many leases are you doing a min lol?

[2017-10-25 12:46:21] cs2000 : Like i said, if theres no other option, they do the job, but theyre far from ideal. Can you lay an extra cable?

[2017-10-25 12:46:25] czokie : and dns resolver

[2017-10-25 12:46:55] czokie : Double brick cavity wall - Intend to get something in - but difficult.

[2017-10-25 12:47:05] czokie : Kitchen reno later this year - will ask the sparky to try it

[2017-10-25 12:48:19] cs2000 : Ahh, i see, yeah not impossible but hard. Move the DNS server temporarily?

[2017-10-25 12:53:40] czokie : Um. Complex DNS and DHCP and TFTP for voip phones....

[2017-10-25 12:53:56] czokie : sosumi - I am a geek!

[2017-10-25 12:54:17] cs2000 : hahaha i love it, kinda my job lol

[2017-10-25 12:54:40] czokie : Wot u do cs?

[2017-10-25 12:56:45] cs2000 : I was a field engineer for a company that does the IT, Telecoms and Wifi for most of the Holiday Inn hotels in the UK, plus loads of the 5* hotels in central london. Im now based in the sales department designing the systems that get sold and installed by others.

[2017-10-25 12:57:18] cs2000 : Like, you come to us and say, ive got a new hotel, here are my floorplans, i want a system that can do this thing. I design it, gets quoted sold and installed

[2017-10-25 12:57:40] czokie : hehehe. My family recently built a small hotel - I installed internet / voip / cardkey / property management

[2017-10-25 12:58:41] cs2000 : Yeah the kinda stuff i deal with, but obviously on a much larger scale, dealing with Orcale for their Opera PMS system, Vingcard for electronic keys etc.

[2017-10-25 13:01:27] czokie : channel management is a bitch - they dont bloody follow their own specs.

[2017-10-25 13:09:14] cs2000 : lol wifi deployment in properties is actually my speciality :wink:

[2017-10-25 13:11:56] czokie : Yeah... I deployed UBNT ... Like it

[2017-10-25 13:12:20] czokie : I've got a custom portal in development - that will link into the PMS....

[2017-10-25 13:12:30] cs2000 : Exactly the same, so id say you made a good choice. We use either Ubiquiti or Ruckus if the customer has $$$$

[2017-10-25 13:12:54] czokie : But the big problem with UBNT is multiple use of vouchers not calculating usage correctly.

[2017-10-25 13:13:27] czokie : Single use is fine - but if u have a family with one multi-use voucher id - and they have say 500meg allocated, thats 500 meg per device.

[2017-10-25 13:14:17] cs2000 : And youd rather it be 500meg per voucher

[2017-10-25 13:14:52] czokie : I can do that - but what about a family that has 3 guests, with 2 devices each. How many vouchers do we issue when the room comes with 500 meg total.

[2017-10-25 13:15:01] czokie : and what limit do we put on each voucher?

[2017-10-25 13:15:25] czokie : And its the same for custom portal - Its not a voucher - but the same problems exist.

[2017-10-25 13:16:34] cs2000 : Yeah you need some kind of hybrid. A voucher that allows multiple activation's (devices) but whereby the voucher itself has a 500meg limit regardless of whether its 1 ot 100 devices that are authenticated using it

[2017-10-25 13:17:14] czokie : UBNT dont support it as far as I know

[2017-10-25 13:17:37] cs2000 : It can be done with other solutions we deploy, but that takes it out of the usage that Unifi intend their system to work with. You're moving into the realms of a dedicated guest management controller

[2017-10-25 13:18:10] czokie : Yup. Which is not ideal for a small property from a cost and complexity perspective.

[2017-10-25 13:18:50] cs2000 : Yeah sadly, how many rooms in the hotel?

[2017-10-25 13:18:55] czokie : Anyway. Just spitballing.

[2017-10-25 13:19:11] czokie : 12 .... like I said - small.... but thats phase 1. Phase 2 is being planned now

[2017-10-25 18:22:20] guest : Way off topic.... Anyone here who knows of any other way of "ripping" a password from the Debian passwd / shadow file? I've now been running "John the Ripper" on it for 619 days, but till now with no luck. Why? I've got a fibaro Home Center 2 server for my domotica needs, and it's locked for root access. I've managed to get the passwd and shadow file of it, and am now trying to get the root password. I do have root to it (uploaded a passwd / shadow file to it with my own encrypted root password), but would love to know it's original password too.

[2017-10-25 19:06:01] dkovar : John the Ripper running in AWS. - <http://blog.nullmode.com/blog/2015/03/22/36-core-aws-john/> (Amazon now has GPU configurations available.) Or: Crackstation: <http://cecs.wright.edu/~pmateti/Courses/3900/Lectures/Passwords/cracking-in-the-cloud.html>

[2017-10-25 20:28:42] guest : :+1::skin-tone-2: will give it a go..

[2017-10-25 21:36:12] jezzab : There are offline GPU programs too. Very very fast

[2017-10-25 21:38:15] jezzab : Last time I used one I fired everything up, fast GPU, rubbed my hands in anticipation and it stopped instantly. The password was `1`

[2017-10-25 21:38:23] jezzab : Truely disappointed

[2017-10-25 23:06:01] czokie : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JpMrsS_9Qo&t=192s>

[2017-10-27 03:13:08] jezzab : It kills me. Last week I couldnt find a micro USB cable and found 5 mini USB cables, this week I cant find those mini USB cables and only micro USB cables. ffs

[2017-10-27 14:46:16] opcode : <https://forum.dji.com/thread-117594-1-1.html>

[2017-10-27 14:46:25] opcode : "would you mind if we ask you if there is any chance that you have any friends or relatives that might be interested in keeping the items instead of returning it to us?"

[2017-10-27 14:46:27] opcode : LOL

[2017-10-29 14:46:48] sfshootme : What is that update he´s talking about_

[2017-10-29 14:46:50] sfshootme : ?*

[2017-10-30 07:42:13] gyorgytamasdaniel : It solved with a better phone. I think Samsung A5 2016 is not enought for it. but thank you guys! :)

[2017-11-01 01:05:35] jezzab : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsF7enQY8uI>

[2017-11-01 01:05:45] jezzab : Chess, not checkers

[2017-11-01 20:42:49] marlasr : just sent following to my friggin ignorant pm....

[2017-11-01 20:42:50] marlasr : <https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/23113465_10155839532814629_182454020_n.jpg?oh=cf0a11d258dde3df4a147ec7fdae1d37&oe=59FA873B>

[2017-11-01 20:57:26] marlasr : nothing here :smile:

[2017-11-01 20:57:29] czokie : *** Conversation moved from general ***

[2017-11-01 20:57:37] czokie : thats OK - we just start talking

[2017-11-01 20:57:42] marlasr : hahahaaa

[2017-11-01 20:57:48] czokie : max horizontal kinetic energy.

[2017-11-01 20:58:10] czokie : For the sake of argument - your bird has a speed - and an opposing aircraft has a speed.

[2017-11-01 20:58:30] marlasr : law is such that they assume bird impact on wall :smile:

[2017-11-01 20:58:34] czokie : You need to add the two together, as the total opposing speed - and then use the mass of your bird

[2017-11-01 20:58:50] marlasr : so wall has indefinite mass and 0 speed

[2017-11-01 20:58:54] czokie : Insane - and meaningless

[2017-11-01 20:59:02] marlasr : as entire country :smile:

[2017-11-01 20:59:32] marlasr : so yeah, i understand your reasoning

[2017-11-01 20:59:45] marlasr : but that's not how the law works

[2017-11-01 20:59:47] czokie : In my personal view - I can fly at an airport - I've done the work to get licensed. But only when following guidelines and following notification process etc.... Let me ask - what do you want to do at an airport - just out of interest

[2017-11-01 20:59:53] marlasr : law is more driven by idiots than engineers :smile:

[2017-11-01 21:00:21] marlasr : nothing actually, that was more of the theoretic situation

[2017-11-01 21:00:47] marlasr : thing is we got law about UAS

[2017-11-01 21:01:00] marlasr : that defines 4 categories of flights

[2017-11-01 21:01:03] czokie : Good.... Coz in simple terms, its not a risk I want to take all that often.

[2017-11-01 21:01:05] marlasr : A, B, C, D

[2017-11-01 21:01:24] marlasr : and 4 environments

[2017-11-01 21:01:30] marlasr : like I, II, III and IV

[2017-11-01 21:01:30] czokie : The only time I'd fly in an approach path is if the runway is closed :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-11-01 21:02:09] marlasr : in case my bird energy is < 79J law does not apply to my bird, i don't have to register at all and don't have to have a category

[2017-11-01 21:02:26] marlasr : theoretically, i can fly the bird where ever

[2017-11-01 21:03:11] marlasr : environment I is like desert :smile:

[2017-11-01 21:03:16] czokie : And if its >= 79

[2017-11-01 21:03:24] marlasr : no humans, no buildings, etc...

[2017-11-01 21:03:48] marlasr : II is like some rural maddow

[2017-11-01 21:03:55] czokie : How far away for buildings or humans?

[2017-11-01 21:03:56] marlasr : there are buildings but mostly no ppl

[2017-11-01 21:04:08] marlasr : let me finish our awesome cro law :smile:

[2017-11-01 21:04:16] marlasr : III is urban area

[2017-11-01 21:04:32] marlasr : and IV is dense populated urban center

[2017-11-01 21:04:58] marlasr : there are also 3 classes of birds

[2017-11-01 21:05:09] marlasr : < 5kg, <25kg and <150kg

[2017-11-01 21:05:27] marlasr : and now we have combos with environments and bird mass

[2017-11-01 21:05:42] marlasr : if i want to fly in class III environment (like in the neighborhood)

[2017-11-01 21:05:57] marlasr : with bird < 5kg i need B license

[2017-11-01 21:06:22] marlasr : but technical requirements for B license is 6 motors (hexa) or less with parachute

[2017-11-01 21:06:54] czokie : For me - the answer is simple. In my case, I fly in IV ... and the law (which aligns with my own thinking) is - keep a safe distance. Our law says 30m away from people. Period. Any aircraft. But no need to register it. I think thats a reasonable approach... and as I said, in my case - I have a license ... which allows me to go to 15m close to people - if they agree in advance and if I am doing hexa etc.

[2017-11-01 21:07:26] czokie : and as far as close to building - unlicensed is 30m... Licensed - any distance you like - providing you have done the appropriate risk analysis and so on....

[2017-11-01 21:07:38] marlasr : iv can be flown only with octa and parachute in croatia

[2017-11-01 21:07:42] czokie : Flying over requires consent

[2017-11-01 21:07:47] marlasr : if it's single ppl, 30m minimum distance

[2017-11-01 21:07:55] marlasr : if it's like concert, 150m away from ppl

[2017-11-01 21:08:19] marlasr : or you need to apply for special permission and need to hold D license (like drone godlike pilot) :smile:

[2017-11-01 21:09:43] czokie : Anyway... As long as you dont really want to fly at an airport - and doing theoretical calculations - cool. In my view, no need to fly @ airport for 99% of people... The only real use for me would be runway inspections for example. Anyway, I'm outa here for a bit - cu

[2017-11-01 21:09:53] marlasr : so for now, i am flying only I and II.....

[2017-11-01 21:10:04] marlasr : need space to master flying :smile:

[2017-11-01 21:10:39] marlasr : i flown small drones like syma so far, without even atti hold

[2017-11-01 21:10:47] marlasr : so need to get used to fpv flying

[2017-11-01 21:11:24] marlasr : atti helps but still have that awkward feeling i will hit something laterally...

[2017-11-01 21:11:37] marlasr : or when flying backwards

[2017-11-01 21:12:04] marlasr : also having problems with estimating how much space around the bird when viewing through fpv

[2017-11-01 21:12:30] marlasr : and also having problem with estimating all of that when camera angle is different

[2017-11-02 05:59:21] jezzab : Wonder whats wrong with it when it comes back this time :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-11-02 06:00:36] arrvodesign : did you consider StateFarm insurance? I guess depends where you live

[2017-11-02 06:01:16] czokie : Insurance for manufacturing defects?

[2017-11-02 06:02:17] arrvodesign : No, I’ve got StateFarm insurance, paying $70 a year. It will cover anything 100%, if it is stolen, drowned, broke, etc

[2017-11-02 06:02:22] jezzab : @czokie had it repaired under warranty because of stress cracks and the one he got back had a bung gimbal. So its just gone back again ^^

[2017-11-02 06:02:48] arrvodesign : not sure how it is in Australia

[2017-11-02 06:02:59] jezzab : No Statefarm

[2017-11-02 06:03:08] jezzab : but either way its covered under warranty

[2017-11-02 06:03:12] jezzab : $0.00 cost

[2017-11-02 06:05:23] arrvodesign : yeah, except it has limits / limited …

[2017-11-02 06:10:40] czokie : So. @arrvodesign - Lets say I agree with you. I'm talking about warranty. Are you suggesting I pay extra money to cover manufacturing defects?

[2017-11-02 06:10:52] czokie : I was not talking about crash or theft - just warranty repair

[2017-11-02 06:11:05] czokie : where the manufacturer agrees they screwed up.

[2017-11-02 06:50:38] arrvodesign : @czokie original warranty would cover that for a year, the Care Refresh cost $99 + $79 for the first replacement and $129 for the second and done there. But defects, if DJI confirms it, will be covered by the $70 a year insurance if you show them yes, DJI screwed up. My policy for example covers 100% the drone, camera and batteries. So you can claim defects separately. In addition to that you are covered from theft / loss, damage / water damage, for which you would pay additional (care refresh) except theft / loss. I only purchased the insurance as I bought my Mavic Pro Combo for $950 new on auction and would not have original year coverage from DJI and didn’t want to spend extra for Care Refresh as I think it is overpriced due to limited coverage. But to answer your question, you may not need insurance to cover defects as original year warranty will cover it, but it won’t protect further.

[2017-11-02 07:03:19] arrvodesign : P.s. bricked drone or lost while traveling internationally would be covered by insurance as well, all depends on the insurance company in your country

[2017-11-02 07:56:01] czokie : So - as per the previous discussion @arrvodesign - this problem was a DJI manufacturing problem. They admitted it. They took care of it under warranty. They returned it however with only one of two faults fixed. I returned it back to them, and they fixed it again at no charge. Anyway, its all a moot point for me. State Farm is not available in my country, and I wouldnt pay a third party for insurance to fix a manufacturers defect anyway….. Yes, insurance does more - but not relevant in this case.

[2017-11-02 08:21:20] czokie : On the phone to telstra

[2017-11-02 08:21:26] czokie : (australian carrier)

[2017-11-02 08:21:32] czokie : Their network it appears has been hacked

[2017-11-02 08:21:36] czokie : and they dont want to investigate

[2017-11-02 08:21:50] czokie : apparently, they dont have a security department.

[2017-11-02 08:22:12] czokie : Background: I had a network outage - The modem provided by telstra had WIFI off and was in bridge mode

[2017-11-02 08:22:27] czokie : I found router non fucntional with wifi back on, and bridge mode off etc.

[2017-11-02 08:22:38] czokie : Found evidence in the router log of external access

[2017-11-02 08:22:52] czokie : “Resetting due to HTTP forced reset”

[2017-11-02 08:23:20] czokie : Telstra support confirmed they didnt do it - therefore, we have to assume a hacker has broken into Telstra management network and doing this without telstra’s knowledge or consent.

[2017-11-02 08:23:26] czokie : and telstra is unwilling to investigate.

[2017-11-02 08:24:32] czokie : Interaction: INT-1-1314152177717

[2017-11-02 08:24:46] czokie : Staff: 855457

[2017-11-02 08:26:40] jezzab : How many hours did it take to get to that point thru the Telstra merry go round and O/S call centres?

[2017-11-02 08:27:02] czokie : 20 minutes - one person, refused to do anything other than record the interaction

[2017-11-02 08:27:21] jezzab : Lol

[2017-11-02 08:27:27] jezzab : They are useless

[2017-11-02 08:29:57] jezzab : Like when I had issues with my FTTH NBN install and they told me I could get ADSL while I was waiting for it to be fixed. 40 minutes of being on hold after I told them that was impossible due to the entire estate being fibre only and no copper, they said they couldn't offer me ADSL..

[2017-11-02 09:05:00] czokie : So - I found other interesting things.

[2017-11-02 09:05:11] czokie : The WPA2 password was reset to a phone number

[2017-11-02 09:05:22] czokie : (It doesnt ring)

[2017-11-02 09:05:38] czokie : The SSID was set to something I have never set it to before

[2017-11-02 09:05:42] czokie : (Not the default value)

[2017-11-02 09:06:01] czokie : And - thinking back - two other unusual events today;

[2017-11-02 09:06:29] czokie : 1. I had a phone call from the “Accident Investigation Department” …. (with an indian accent) to my un-listed private mobile.

[2017-11-02 09:06:49] czokie : 2. My daughter got a text message telling her that her account was locked out - and to login to (bogus url) to reset it

[2017-11-02 09:06:58] czokie : Both her mobile and mine are Telstra services.

[2017-11-02 09:07:10] czokie : All in the space of 4 hours.

[2017-11-02 09:09:49] opcode : scary :open_mouth:

[2017-11-02 14:02:31] kilrah : wow

[2017-11-02 22:53:49] hotelzululima : @martinbogo.. poor Larry!.. Perl the most hated programming language!! <https://developers.slashdot.org/story/17/11/01/089200/perl-is-the-most-hated-programming-language-developers-say?sbsrc=md>

[2017-11-06 18:38:57] paul : question for you guys, if i go into developer mode on my ph4p, which paramater changes the firmware update check? I want to remove it searching for firmware updates

[2017-11-07 04:50:28] czokie : Off topic: Anyone plated with Wireshark capture over SSH?

[2017-11-07 04:50:31] czokie : <http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/4373/analyze-traffic-remotely-over-ssh-w-wireshark>

[2017-11-07 04:50:48] czokie : I’ve done some playing today for something not related to DJI - and its NICE

[2017-11-07 20:59:40] kilrah : grrrr running a rooted android phone is becoming a fucking nightmare

[2017-11-07 21:07:15] haloweenhamster : that's why I don't want to do mine, also have a couple of apps that won't run on a rooted phone, been there done that

[2017-11-07 21:14:56] kilrah : yeah just spent nearly 2 days installing, testing different things and restoring umpteen times without success

[2017-11-07 21:16:02] nocommie : Really? I root all of mine and never have issues. The only one I havent is my s8 so I wont lose samsung pay

[2017-11-07 21:16:04] kilrah : it's ridiculous, everybody considers that on a PC a password / UAC prompt is good enough to weed out malicious things, that's exactly what su managers have been doing on android for years, but it's somehow not good enough there

[2017-11-07 21:16:46] nocommie : costom recovery and rom, backup, customize and backup again

[2017-11-07 21:16:55] kilrah : Well that's one, you got it... I have 3 apps that I use every day that trip and disable themselves on rooted phones

[2017-11-07 21:17:03] nocommie : ah

[2017-11-07 21:17:43] kilrah : some use google's safetynet which now trips as soon as bootloader is unlocked, some have their own methods

[2017-11-07 21:17:57] nocommie : So far the only one I have run into was samsung pay because of knox but it seems progress has been made on that too

[2017-11-07 21:19:22] kilrah : tried systemless root, that works with 2 but not the 3rd becasue of unlocked bootloader

[2017-11-07 21:20:03] kilrah : also tried installing it then relocking bootloader but since that reverts to stock recovery it then refuses to boot the modified boot image

[2017-11-07 21:20:05] kilrah : gah

[2017-11-07 21:20:47] nocommie : Hmm, sounds like a stock emulator running on a rooted device would be cool for the couple of apps

[2017-11-07 21:21:11] kilrah : i'd think these apps would trip in that case too...

[2017-11-07 21:22:58] nocommie : The whole blocking of rooting your own device pisses me off. Reminds me of DJI

[2017-11-07 21:24:02] kilrah : yeah, it's even worse, for now with dji we actually still have easier workarounds :joy:

[2017-11-07 21:24:32] nocommie : fortunately the OGs keep us free!

[2017-11-07 23:05:23] hans112 : @kilrah have you tried this ?: <https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/closed-beta-test-incoming-companion-app-t3366295>

[2017-11-07 23:06:08] hans112 : Nice and easy sandbox environment , might fool some apps into thinking that you are not rooted

[2017-11-08 01:45:34] coldflake : You can root your s8, just as long as you dont trip KNOX, then Samsung Pay will still work

[2017-11-08 08:36:28] haloweenhamster : Just read some guy recons he can get 10 miles on FCC using a mavic, I think bullshit, don't think you would get that using boost 1.5w any thoughts on maximum ranges for different setups? best conditions range for ce, FCC, boost, amplified

[2017-11-08 08:42:02] jezzab : he talking round trip or furthest distance away?

[2017-11-08 08:43:46] czokie : And what are the obstructions? Is it a take off from an elevated point with line of sight?

[2017-11-08 09:02:19] haloweenhamster : that's distance, he said flat land

[2017-11-08 09:25:40] jezzab : 16km distance away from him on stock RC, right. Tell him to put down the crack pipe and back away.

[2017-11-08 09:26:22] coldflake : What a load of bs, 16km LOL, what a wanker

[2017-11-08 09:26:53] coldflake : that's an insult of our intelligence! lol

[2017-11-08 09:40:46] kilrah : probably external booster and high gain antennas, not stock

[2017-11-08 10:04:55] haloweenhamster : Thought as much, was thinking 6 mile Max for stock with boost 1.5w mode

[2017-11-08 16:32:31] marlasr : guy is shitting, with some old 433MHz long range gear it could be done, but definitely not in 2.4GHz with 1.5w only....

[2017-11-08 16:34:17] marlasr : and 5.8 is even worse... so yeah...... either some wild external boosters plus tracking directional high gain antennas but not stock for sure...

[2017-11-08 18:02:07] haloweenhamster : That is mental

[2017-11-08 20:26:13] marlasr : See room for improvement. This one is not automatic tracking one :)

[2017-11-08 21:22:27] haloweenhamster : Satellite motor required :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-11-08 21:25:10] jezzab : Neighbours keep wondering why they get crappy wifi :p

[2017-11-08 21:28:15] czokie : Tracktenna+

[2017-11-08 21:37:57] marlasr : There is some fancy name for it. Motorized and tracks the bird but forgot how its called.

[2017-11-09 19:37:15] kilrah : theres are missing routines :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-11-09 20:12:34] marlasr : So name is rssi

[2017-11-09 20:13:37] marlasr : Two antennas.... Arduino measures the signal strength on both and rotates stepper to the side of the one with stronger signal so antennas are pointing to the bird :)

[2017-11-09 20:14:30] marlasr : Things get more complicated when vertical instead of just horizontsl tracking is needed.

[2017-11-09 20:28:40] kilrah : thats a very basic way, almost nobody does that anymore

[2017-11-09 20:28:48] kilrah : use gps coordinates instead

[2017-11-09 20:29:24] marlasr : Dji charges 1k for tracking antennas and small birds not supported

[2017-11-09 20:29:49] marlasr : But yeah... Gps is the way to go

[2017-11-09 20:36:59] marlasr : Ppl do interesting projects... Saw guy using portable xiaomi wifi router to drive mavic/spark. 800 m was his range. Not exactly as remote but glad to see ppl fiddling with stuff.

[2017-11-09 22:37:10] haloweenhamster : Guy posted today "I sometimes use 3w boosters, but lately I just use the 1.5W boost mode of controller and I can't tell the difference between sunhams 3W amp and 1.5W boost mode."

[2017-11-09 22:38:17] haloweenhamster : Surely if setup correctly it'll give at least half distance again

[2017-11-10 00:01:20] jezzab : You know your a geek when you get excited about buying a new soldering iron

[2017-11-10 00:08:37] arrvodesign : I felt the same when getting my lead free solder ))

[2017-11-10 00:10:21] jezzab : I hate Pb free lol maybe not so much now

[2017-11-10 00:10:29] jezzab : Got a 55w Curie point induction

[2017-11-10 00:10:35] jezzab : So far so good.

[2017-11-10 01:20:35] jezzab : And one day I'll clean up lmao

[2017-11-10 01:24:20] haloweenhamster : Not used my psu or scope for years, got no room for working on stuff these days

[2017-11-10 01:25:12] jezzab : Ive got car parts on the bench all the time so the PSU lives on about 13.x volts

[2017-11-10 01:25:37] jezzab : Cheap chinese PSU. Give a good whack now and then when the fan gets noisy lol

[2017-11-10 01:26:03] haloweenhamster : The smd rework tool a hot air tool with suction?

[2017-11-10 01:27:08] jezzab : Iron and hot air tool (diaphram pump) no suction and an iron.

[2017-11-10 01:27:27] haloweenhamster : I've got a PlayStation psu for car stuff, no current limit but 20a capable

[2017-11-10 01:27:35] jezzab : nice

[2017-11-10 01:29:09] haloweenhamster : Got it hooked up to a car DVD headunit at the moment for a bathroom system

[2017-11-10 01:29:38] jezzab : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-11-10 01:30:36] haloweenhamster : Are you using a Titan booster?

[2017-11-10 01:30:47] jezzab : ive got this:

[2017-11-10 01:32:41] jezzab : DIY

[2017-11-10 01:33:03] jezzab : Far out. very nice

[2017-11-10 01:34:44] jezzab : ahhh that fits nicely!

[2017-11-10 01:36:07] haloweenhamster : Just need to fit straps to keep the booster in place

[2017-11-10 01:36:54] jezzab : Thats awesome

[2017-11-10 01:37:34] haloweenhamster : Hows yours for transportation?

[2017-11-10 01:38:30] jezzab : Shit lol

[2017-11-10 01:38:33] jezzab : im working on that one

[2017-11-10 01:38:53] jezzab : I have 2 hard cases. A small and big (fits goggles). Just cheapies but im going to have to gut one

[2017-11-10 01:39:15] jezzab : I just bought a second Mavic RC

[2017-11-10 01:39:36] jezzab : so i can leave that stock and leave it in the small case. Its handy to just throw in the work ute and go some where

[2017-11-10 01:41:15] haloweenhamster : I do like the dji bag for portability, hopefully backpack works out just as good

[2017-11-10 01:42:45] haloweenhamster : I find hard cases to bulky and cumbersome

[2017-11-10 19:40:05] marlasr : Is it worth a try to make a spark track a dog?

[2017-11-10 19:40:57] marlasr : And I have three of them looking pretty much the same so wondering will it confuse spark :)

[2017-11-11 19:09:20] haloweenhamster : that's going to be my next plate, mines the Atlas as well just didn't attach the whips or links for the photo

[2017-11-12 02:44:16] quad808 : @haloweenhamster That is super nice!!! Great idea..

[2017-11-12 03:15:07] jcarlo : I still like the one I posted above

[2017-11-12 18:01:49] marlasr : any idea of how to get rid of moire of roof tiles in spark raw footage except tracking/rotoscoping and applying gaussian blur to affected areas?

[2017-11-12 18:02:33] marlasr : looking for a dummy friendly silver bullet, but somehow doubt there is any..... :disappointed:

[2017-11-12 21:16:40] kilrah : never seen any moiré on spark footage

[2017-11-12 21:16:49] kilrah : unless you're looking at video cache...

[2017-11-12 21:42:36] marlasr : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCjsQ7CvL1Q>

[2017-11-12 21:42:43] marlasr : footage from sd card....

[2017-11-12 21:42:59] marlasr : moire at 1:10 on the roof tiles just right of bell tower

[2017-11-12 21:43:22] marlasr : btw... place where i live :smile:

[2017-11-12 21:48:25] marlasr : more obvious around 0:29, again roof tiles of house right to the bell tower

[2017-11-12 21:49:46] marlasr : btw.... tracking can't cope with my border collies.... too quick for spark :smile:

[2017-11-12 21:50:31] marlasr : will need to shoot them old school, which means manually :smile: probably tripod mode not applicable :smile:

[2017-11-12 21:51:18] marlasr : for those interested, here's my kennel... [www.lothardens.com](http://www.lothardens.com) another hobby except drones :smile:

[2017-11-12 22:09:51] kilrah : looks just fine to me, only slightly noticeable at one moment

[2017-11-12 22:15:54] jezzab : Same here. Just very very slightly on one part

[2017-11-14 23:57:03] versuher : @haloweenhamster those photos are missing the image of the third drone that swaps the Mavic batteries mid air. Otherwise, how would you be able to cover that 5+ km back and forth range those antennae boosters prolly give you on a single charge? (unless you fly in an area with a very polluted 2.4 GHz spectrum)

[2017-11-15 00:03:25] versuher : “Still using my 15-20 year old station” – some of the beverages from those bottles would probably taste better if chilled

[2017-11-15 07:10:53] haloweenhamster : In front of my house I got 1.4km with & get 600m stock still to test a proper flight

[2017-11-17 22:28:50] jcarlo : Choo! choo!

[2017-11-17 23:02:38] jezzab : Doing training tonight?

[2017-11-17 23:02:45] jezzab : **ba doom ching**

[2017-11-17 23:13:48] haloweenhamster : I'm a fault finding technician for a train maintenance company and when there's no faults to find I either have to do routine maintenance or driving

[2017-11-17 23:14:02] jezzab : ahhh,. cool!

[2017-11-17 23:14:34] jezzab : Was going to throw in some pun about knowing when your on the right track but I wont...

[2017-11-17 23:15:14] haloweenhamster : Did I hear that you're a chippy

[2017-11-17 23:16:00] jezzab : Many years ago. Programmer, qualified chippy and qualified mechanic

[2017-11-17 23:16:13] jezzab : Couldnt work out if I liked working inside or outside lol

[2017-11-17 23:16:34] jezzab : now days I work with car computers/modules and unlocking/reflashing them and stuff

[2017-11-17 23:19:17] quad808 : @haloweenhamster How is driving? boring as shit, or not bad??

[2017-11-17 23:19:48] haloweenhamster : Boring as shit

[2017-11-17 23:20:01] haloweenhamster : But well paid

[2017-11-17 23:21:27] quad808 : People or freight runs?

[2017-11-17 23:22:13] jezzab : They are well paid here in Aus well. GOOD money.

[2017-11-17 23:22:44] quad808 : pretty important job actually...NO DRINKING!

[2017-11-17 23:28:29] jezzab : I had a couple of friends that were drivers. They were pretty shaken up coz they both had had someone jump infront :disappointed:

[2017-11-17 23:55:55] haloweenhamster : I work on passenger not freight, also I only drive on depot so don't get as much as a proper train driver although I have to do fault finding, repair & maintenance as well

[2017-11-17 23:59:09] haloweenhamster : I started in programming, saw the amount of people in computing so went to engineering & tool making, then electronics, then became a Sparky, now work on trains

[2017-11-18 02:11:18] haloweenhamster : if i go proper train driving it will be an extra 10k a year

[2017-11-18 07:00:56] hotelzululima : @haloweenhamster chippy == carpenter??

[2017-11-18 07:08:46] marlasr : I was embedded dev before... Now settled with mobile... Easier work, better money

[2017-11-18 07:12:03] marlasr : No more shit with overoptimization and chasing defects caused by unprotected pipelines in various exotic DSPs... No more fpga shit and most importantly now I use my osciloscopes, meters and solder irons just for hobby :)

[2017-11-18 07:13:42] haloweenhamster : Yep & Sparky == electrician

[2017-11-18 07:16:17] marlasr : I mean i still have two wires hooked to my car CAN bus and having gazillion of zigbees around the house and garden but just for fun and not for the job :)

[2017-11-18 07:19:30] haloweenhamster : Funny enough that's what my psu, scope, meters & reword station is used for Except for repairing my mavic I haven't used any of it for 5 years really

[2017-11-18 07:21:42] haloweenhamster : Got 5 projects on the shelf which were started years ago before I started working shifts, must finish them one day, especially the valve (tube) ones

[2017-11-18 07:22:36] marlasr : My irrigation totally automated and so is what i call dynamic lightening around the house :)

[2017-11-18 08:11:25] jezzab : OpenHAB2 ftw

[2017-11-19 15:14:23] ensjesse : @ensjesse uploaded a file: [:joy:](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U805WPT5W/F83Q7USNB/image_uploaded_from_ios.jpg)

[2017-11-19 23:47:18] haloweenhamster : I think I should confiscate them and give them a good home

[2017-11-19 23:48:58] haloweenhamster : saying that don't look at my profile picture

[2017-11-20 00:00:53] jezzab : Ahh im gonna have to send this certain company that makes car tuning software a bottle of wine for xmas. Their latest update is fucking engine computers left, right and center. They deny it ofcourse. Works for me, coz they all get sent to me to fix lol

[2017-11-20 00:04:46] jezzab : "There is no problem. We have been doing it the same way for 10 years"

[2017-11-20 00:04:54] jezzab : *looks at 8 on the floor*

[2017-11-20 00:04:57] jezzab : "I see....."

[2017-11-20 00:06:18] haloweenhamster : Know anything about GM cars?

[2017-11-20 00:06:36] jezzab : Possibly

[2017-11-20 00:06:45] jezzab : These are GM ECM/PCMs :wink:

[2017-11-20 00:06:57] jezzab : Delphi and Delco

[2017-11-20 00:49:41] haloweenhamster : Think my Saab is Delphi, thought you would have lots of Holdens to work on

[2017-11-20 00:50:46] jezzab : Yeah mainly Holden V8 1999 - 2018

[2017-11-20 00:51:39] jezzab : Then we exported some stuff to UK/US like Pontiac GTO, Pontiac G8, Chevy SS, Vauxhall VXR8, GENF

[2017-11-20 00:52:04] jezzab : those are the main things I do. Used to do some import stuff with the Silverado but not much now days.

[2017-11-20 00:53:30] jezzab : But most of the Corvette, Camaro and Cadillac stuff is similar to with the modules and ECMs (Global Platform)

[2017-11-20 08:27:08] haloweenhamster : Vxr was nice if I remember correctly

[2017-11-20 10:08:58] freaky123 : @vo can't you just store one at my home? ^^ they look so sad this way

[2017-11-20 14:45:15] vo : @freaky123 i made a drone vending machine (our customer calls it a "drone hive") where these mavics will eventually reside. the version we made for 3DR Solos houses 18 solos in a inconspicuous white trailer on the back of a truck. on command, the machine opens a door and launches the drones; when the drones are done with their mission they come land and the robotic system puts them back on charger.

[2017-11-20 14:47:21] vo : the mavic version has not been made yet. it's not even certain yet whether we will use mavics or switch to a less annoying platform

[2017-11-20 14:49:47] freaky123 : aha that's why you have so many :wink:

[2017-11-20 21:16:11] zedread : <https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack>

[2017-11-20 21:16:28] zedread : just for your amusement

[2017-11-20 21:16:57] zedread : IKEA will take over datacenters

[2017-11-20 21:24:37] haloweenhamster : Looks good, I'll have to get some for my amps

[2017-11-21 01:47:40] ensjesse : Very cool

[2017-11-21 06:57:41] bin4ry : I would. But at the time I am there there might be nothing left :joy:

[2017-11-21 07:23:35] jezzab : Haha

[2017-11-21 07:49:14] jezzab : Your right. We would need more beer

[2017-11-21 07:49:53] bin4ry : lol

[2017-11-21 07:50:05] czokie : We can always have a nye meet up. Enough beer on that date

[2017-11-21 07:50:22] jezzab : Ahh beeeer

[2017-11-21 09:02:45] czokie : I wanted to share a quick story that is indirectly related to this place. From time to time, I have had people offer money to support the wiki and the work I am doing in terms of the IOS scene. Instead of accepting this, I have directed this person to help out in a different way. My Wife’s family is from the Philippines. A country that is certainly not as blessed as we are as drone and computer owners. I put one such person in touch with the minister of the Church where I was married. In turn, he identified someone still studying who was in need, associated with a family split. He has been staying with other relatives etc. Through the donation received, this person can receive an allowance for two and a half months that will cover his food, transport, and other expenses for about 10 weeks. I just wanted to publicly mention this here saying thankyou to the person that made that possible. This is not the only person that has offered me money… so at some point in the future, I intend to setup a “donation box” using <https://donorbox.org/> to make it totally transparant, where others would be able to give in this way. There would be a report of how this is all happening available, to ensure complete transparancy. Anyway. Thats the end of my public service announcement. :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-11-21 13:48:58] marlasr : @jezzab seafood with sausages is way too wrong on so many levels :smile:

[2017-11-22 13:36:08] bin4ry : @haloweenhamster why do you disagree?

[2017-11-22 13:36:19] jezzab : It’s digital with crc

[2017-11-22 13:38:11] haloweenhamster : Because I've heard the difference and I have also seen picture with alot of errors and you had picture but with pixels all over that weren't correct

[2017-11-22 13:39:17] bin4ry : ok. which setup would be interesting here. There are 2 ways, with error handling and without

[2017-11-22 13:39:47] bin4ry : a common setup would be a digital source, connected with hdmi to a amp

[2017-11-22 13:40:33] bin4ry : this hdmi link has error handling, even if there is a transmit error the paket gets transmitted again, if no re-transmit is possible for # of times there will be a signal loss

[2017-11-22 13:40:45] bin4ry : there won't be ever produced a wrong sound of this, only no sound

[2017-11-22 13:41:11] bin4ry : if you have many signal losses in a short timeframe you get this squeky bubbly sounds

[2017-11-22 13:41:26] bin4ry : a good cable can reduce this error rate

[2017-11-22 13:41:53] bin4ry : but there is no chance of the sound being worse, since either the data is transmitted or not

[2017-11-22 13:42:07] bin4ry : if however there is no error handling

[2017-11-22 13:42:19] bin4ry : the receiver in this case the amp may produce weird off sounds

[2017-11-22 13:42:20] jezzab : Bit it’s very defined. It’s not a better sound.

[2017-11-22 13:42:42] jezzab : Squalk or silence

[2017-11-22 13:42:44] bin4ry : but i don't know any enduser setup where there is no minimal error handling

[2017-11-22 13:43:02] jezzab : Or chirp or what ever u want to call it

[2017-11-22 13:43:12] bin4ry : an "incorrect" pixel is however a floating bit in the receiver when no signal was received

[2017-11-22 13:43:27] bin4ry : this points more to a bad designed receiver than a missing protocol

[2017-11-22 13:43:44] jezzab : The same is with DVBT

[2017-11-22 13:44:02] bin4ry : however on analogue signal transmit this is very true

[2017-11-22 13:44:26] bin4ry : and it is also very true that analogue audio is by far superior to digital

[2017-11-22 13:46:09] haloweenhamster : You both are a lot smarter than me I was just going by my experience and what I've read, I know a lot of statements from AV companies are a load of bollox hence why I was going from experience

[2017-11-22 13:46:36] bin4ry : i don't know about smarter, but i do know how this systems work

[2017-11-22 13:47:00] bin4ry : a proper cable can for sure reduce the number of errors on transmisison

[2017-11-22 13:47:22] bin4ry : but it's more like, you get signal or you don't

[2017-11-22 13:47:30] jezzab : Same. But it’s just 1s and 0s in the end. And companies wanna tout they are purse data so they error check

[2017-11-22 13:47:44] jezzab : Coz that’s what u want

[2017-11-22 13:47:47] bin4ry : some newer systems MAY reduce the bandwidth due to "bad" transmission ways

[2017-11-22 13:48:00] bin4ry : like internet lines, you have not enough bandwidth to stream HD

[2017-11-22 13:48:03] bin4ry : you fallback to SD

[2017-11-22 13:48:13] haloweenhamster : I've heard the same system with a different cable, one sounded normal the other cable caused sparkly tops and lacked bass

[2017-11-22 13:48:41] bin4ry : did you setup the system yourself? many times the sellers fool people and change the preset

[2017-11-22 13:48:44] jezzab : Sorry but that’s impossible

[2017-11-22 13:49:02] jezzab : You can’t get a better 1or a better 0

[2017-11-22 13:49:23] haloweenhamster : Hifi show

[2017-11-22 13:49:31] jezzab : Ahh

[2017-11-22 13:50:08] haloweenhamster : Done by marantz

[2017-11-22 13:51:38] bin4ry : yah they like to sell this cables. it is also possible that they added autosensing for the cable to switch profiles, that's how i would do it and nobody would notice

[2017-11-22 13:51:54] haloweenhamster : Wouldn't trust anything Russ Andrews said but marantz Guy seemed very knowledgeable

[2017-11-22 13:53:29] bin4ry : well i don't want to bash here, so please don't get me wrong. but i honestly think they fool you. there is really no scientific way a digital signal can change the audio quality from an source like an audio cd or such.

[2017-11-22 13:53:33] bin4ry : There is the way i said before

[2017-11-22 13:53:50] bin4ry : If you imagine the audio stream like the stream from netflix

[2017-11-22 13:54:13] bin4ry : and the hdmi cable as your network link

[2017-11-22 13:54:38] bin4ry : then you can for sure fallback to a higher compressed source when your uncompressed data is not fitting through your bandwidth

[2017-11-22 13:54:51] bin4ry : but that would need a source and a receiver which can do that

[2017-11-22 13:55:55] bin4ry : if you have the same audio source and put the signal directly into the cable, then 1 stays 1 and 0 stays 0, or they get lost at all and needs a retransmit. if not possible you get a blackout

[2017-11-22 13:56:05] bin4ry : if many blackouts in a short timeframe

[2017-11-22 13:56:11] bin4ry : it sounds like wrong encoded mp3's

[2017-11-22 13:56:13] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-11-22 13:56:16] haloweenhamster : So your not just an android guy then

[2017-11-22 13:56:21] bin4ry : this blubbs in it

[2017-11-22 13:56:27] bin4ry : i am a physicist

[2017-11-22 13:56:30] bin4ry : master in physics

[2017-11-22 13:56:35] jezzab : Swapping a cable only on the same setup the "bad" cable would just cutout, putting the "good" cable in would play fine. And the bad cable would litrally have to be stuffed and of so poor quality its useless

[2017-11-22 13:57:11] jezzab : most cases they would be identically and digitally bit for bit the same

[2017-11-22 13:58:32] jezzab : im not having a go its just a brilliant marketing ploy and salesmen are great for it.

[2017-11-22 13:58:36] haloweenhamster : How about a cable with no screening and high capacitance at high transmitting frequencies?

[2017-11-22 13:58:47] jezzab : it will work or it wont

[2017-11-22 13:59:03] bin4ry : question is what is high frequencies

[2017-11-22 13:59:26] bin4ry : ask my wife, she is a high frequency electronics designer

[2017-11-22 13:59:35] bin4ry : scientist in this area exactly

[2017-11-22 13:59:39] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-11-22 13:59:56] bin4ry : even digital signals are analogue voltages

[2017-11-22 13:59:59] bin4ry : so to transmit a 1

[2017-11-22 14:00:02] jezzab : yes

[2017-11-22 14:00:09] bin4ry : you pull the voltage to let'S say 0.5V

[2017-11-22 14:00:15] jezzab : pull up, pull down

[2017-11-22 14:00:24] jezzab : and you have your slew

[2017-11-22 14:00:32] bin4ry : so for high freuqncies you get much worse effects in the cable too

[2017-11-22 14:00:39] bin4ry : and without screening

[2017-11-22 14:00:40] bin4ry : well

[2017-11-22 14:00:54] bin4ry : depends on which length, but prolly you won't get a signal out of this

[2017-11-22 14:01:09] bin4ry : a signal you can work with so to say

[2017-11-22 14:01:20] jezzab : because it harder to show a defined "edge" ie trailing edge (or leading)

[2017-11-22 14:01:23] bin4ry : not without high redundancy and integration

[2017-11-22 14:02:33] bin4ry : and that is btw the reason you can hear the difference in analogue transmission

[2017-11-22 14:02:44] bin4ry : the signal change from start to end

[2017-11-22 14:02:49] jezzab : light switch vs dimmer

[2017-11-22 14:02:57] bin4ry : you start with lets say 10V and end with 9V and the end of the cable

[2017-11-22 14:03:08] bin4ry : add on top bad influences

[2017-11-22 14:03:20] bin4ry : so you get a wiggling on it

[2017-11-22 14:03:23] bin4ry : etc

[2017-11-22 14:03:32] bin4ry : some small periodic functions

[2017-11-22 14:04:03] jezzab : Then it all comes down to the resolution of your DAC

[2017-11-22 14:04:04] bin4ry : if you live near a train station in germany you will see a 16 2/3 hz on top of you signals

[2017-11-22 14:04:07] bin4ry : of ALL SIGNALS

[2017-11-22 14:04:08] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-11-22 14:04:50] jezzab : vinyl baby and your valve amps @haloweenhamster Your onto it there :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-11-22 14:05:34] bin4ry : @haloweenhamster i really love your setup of the old tubes

[2017-11-22 14:05:34] jezzab : Unless you can get your hands on a 1.5" 32 track master tape and player lol

[2017-11-22 14:05:39] bin4ry : this is unbeatable :smiley:

[2017-11-22 14:05:39] haloweenhamster : Tbh I think the most I've spent on a signal cable is £5

[2017-11-22 14:05:51] jezzab : Tooooobs ftw

[2017-11-22 14:06:09] jezzab : and analogue. Love it :heart:

[2017-11-22 14:06:28] bin4ry : i only had the chance to play with this tubes back in university, we could manipulate them and create a sound. then we did the same with digital

[2017-11-22 14:06:32] bin4ry : just wow :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-11-22 14:06:34] jezzab : Love the hiss, snap, crackle and pop

[2017-11-22 14:07:09] haloweenhamster : Class a pulls 350w off the mains to give Max 2x 18w

[2017-11-22 14:07:16] jezzab : nice

[2017-11-22 14:07:30] jezzab : and thats no doubt RMS

[2017-11-22 14:07:38] jezzab : not this PMPO bullshit

[2017-11-22 14:07:55] jezzab : I dont care if it makes 100w for 0.0001sec

[2017-11-22 14:08:26] haloweenhamster : My car amp was 8k pmpo

[2017-11-22 14:08:50] jezzab : All the ratings now for amps now days... 500w PMPO **cough** 50w RMS

[2017-11-22 14:10:16] jezzab : my old 1970s Roland Jazz Chorus (JC120) guitar amp. Ive have never had it full. Even when i did gigs

[2017-11-22 14:10:16] haloweenhamster : At least it gave 3k rms, blew many drive units with it until I got the speaker management

[2017-11-22 14:12:15] haloweenhamster : You want to crank that bad boy to 11

[2017-11-22 14:12:51] marlasr : ah, just read we have master in physics here.... nice... want to check with you @bin4ry where the heck barions are gonne? :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:14:48] bin4ry : the particles from 3 quarks and 3 antiquarks? i remember slightly....

[2017-11-22 14:16:12] bin4ry : but keep in mind this was not my main topic, i specialized with surface physics, electron microscopy and such.

[2017-11-22 14:18:40] haloweenhamster : I remember something about Mercury having a negative temperature coefficientcy which could only be explained using quantum mechanics

[2017-11-22 14:20:11] haloweenhamster : I remember frying my brain researching it whilst studying electronics

[2017-11-22 14:21:03] bin4ry : @haloweenhamster you studied electrical engineering then?

[2017-11-22 14:21:27] bin4ry : quantum mechanics are ok to work with once you wrapped your mind around it :wink:

[2017-11-22 14:21:34] bin4ry : it's hard to start though :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:21:35] haloweenhamster : Yeah 15 years ago

[2017-11-22 14:22:12] bin4ry : i see :slightly_smiling_face: so we could have discussed on a total different level then :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:23:08] haloweenhamster : UK education is shit nowadays though, they teach you to pass an exam not to use in the real world

[2017-11-22 14:23:20] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:24:31] haloweenhamster : When I've been over there when I talked to people they say about your education being good

[2017-11-22 14:25:14] bin4ry : well depends :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:25:19] bin4ry : i don't think so

[2017-11-22 14:25:27] bin4ry : i think our universities are very good

[2017-11-22 14:25:29] bin4ry : but school

[2017-11-22 14:25:30] bin4ry : not so

[2017-11-22 14:26:21] bin4ry : in engineering and natural science our universities are good :wink:

[2017-11-22 14:26:53] marlasr : and speaking of learning new stuff, check this out :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:26:54] marlasr : (GMT+12:45) NZ-CHAT (GMT+12:45) Pacific/Chatham (GMT+13:00) Etc/GMT-13 (GMT+13:00) MIT (GMT+13:00) Pacific/Apia (GMT+13:00) Pacific/Enderbury (GMT+13:00) Pacific/Fakaofo (GMT+13:00) Pacific/Tongatapu (GMT+14:00) Etc/GMT-14 (GMT+14:00) Pacific/Kiritimati

[2017-11-22 14:27:07] marlasr : java timezones that are > +/- 12 hrs :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:27:33] marlasr : that would make for day > 24 hrs :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:28:07] marlasr : i have master in EE :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:28:16] haloweenhamster : A university is +1300

[2017-11-22 14:28:38] marlasr : official name of university is Faculty of EE, ME and Naval Architecture

[2017-11-22 14:28:46] marlasr : totally powerful name :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:29:17] bin4ry : so you have a master too or bachelor @haloweenhamster

[2017-11-22 14:29:36] bin4ry : my wife has the master in EE @marlasr

[2017-11-22 14:29:40] bin4ry : i only physics

[2017-11-22 14:29:42] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-11-22 14:29:57] haloweenhamster : Not that high

[2017-11-22 14:30:28] haloweenhamster : Hnc

[2017-11-22 14:30:35] marlasr : and now with introduction of bologne process in EU, i am master of profession, not "proper" master :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:30:49] bin4ry : whats hnc ?

[2017-11-22 14:31:08] bin4ry : master of profession ?

[2017-11-22 14:31:09] marlasr : mag ing

[2017-11-22 14:31:33] marlasr : that's how bologne puts it

[2017-11-22 14:32:17] marlasr : that's some latin abbreviation

[2017-11-22 14:32:17] bin4ry : mag ing is magister engineering right? all of that is confusing

[2017-11-22 14:32:21] marlasr : right

[2017-11-22 14:32:25] bin4ry : yah

[2017-11-22 14:32:27] marlasr : magister engineering

[2017-11-22 14:32:33] bin4ry : i am happy with my master of science

[2017-11-22 14:32:34] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-11-22 14:32:43] bin4ry : i would be happier with a oldschool diploma

[2017-11-22 14:32:44] marlasr : yep, that's proper master imho too :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:32:45] bin4ry : but ok

[2017-11-22 14:32:54] bin4ry : doesn't matter at all

[2017-11-22 14:32:55] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-11-22 14:33:15] marlasr : would need two more semesters for that.... but kinda lazy :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:33:16] haloweenhamster : Think it goes hnc hnd degree masters doctors

[2017-11-22 14:33:29] haloweenhamster : In the UK anyway

[2017-11-22 14:34:01] marlasr : surprisingly, US recognizes my diploma as masters degree so won't complain :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:35:01] haloweenhamster : Have been tempted by the open university

[2017-11-22 14:35:10] bin4ry : ah i understand, we don't have that here @haloweenhamster

[2017-11-22 14:36:13] bin4ry : @marlasr it's not important if the us accepts it for me :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:37:14] marlasr : well, it's anywhere between 20 to 50k more a year :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:37:28] bin4ry : ah ok, you work there?

[2017-11-22 14:37:36] bin4ry : then it's important :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:38:25] bin4ry : but i would not like to work US based, too bad working conditons :wink:

[2017-11-22 14:39:24] bin4ry : but to go there for vacation and live a little is very good

[2017-11-22 14:39:34] haloweenhamster : If your conditions are anything like the rail industry then you mean you can't have 5 cups of coffee and 10 fags before you start work when I'm over there they start at 6:30 but they don't actually start work till about 8 after all coffee and fags

[2017-11-22 14:39:47] bin4ry : i think working in EU is better, whereas you have more freedome for living in the US (atleast if you have a proper income :wink: )

[2017-11-22 14:40:03] bin4ry : lol @haloweenhamster

[2017-11-22 14:41:26] bin4ry : but of course i don't have experience to work in the us. my knowledge is only theoretical, maybe it's not so bad as one reads :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:42:51] marlasr : living in europe having american salary is the best imho :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:43:29] marlasr : especially in croatia.... nice weather, nice nature, sea, sun, and fu'd government and economy unfortunately :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:43:46] bin4ry : lol

[2017-11-22 14:43:58] bin4ry : well depends on how much your work life for the US is

[2017-11-22 14:44:10] bin4ry : what i read was like too much work hours and not much free days of in the year

[2017-11-22 14:44:24] marlasr : i do both, us and eu holidays :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:44:28] bin4ry : salary was ofc a bit higher than here, but the living costs are higher too

[2017-11-22 14:44:36] bin4ry : which company you work for ?

[2017-11-22 14:44:56] marlasr : cannot disclose... but i am into software for clinical trials

[2017-11-22 14:45:03] bin4ry : ok sure

[2017-11-22 14:45:10] marlasr : working for pharma is very nice $$$-wise :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:45:11] haloweenhamster : When I was on my 3 month holiday the Americans couldn't believe it, all though they have a few weeks holiday thay can only use maximum 1 week at a time

[2017-11-22 14:46:21] bin4ry : well work-life balance and a good interesting job is worth more than pure $, thats why i refuse to work in automobile :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:46:35] bin4ry : and yeah, i only know that the americans don't have much off per year

[2017-11-22 14:46:53] bin4ry : and that they have a crap of a healthcare system

[2017-11-22 14:47:01] marlasr : very true

[2017-11-22 14:47:14] bin4ry : but i love it there, so we always think about getting some property there for holidays

[2017-11-22 14:47:18] marlasr : but i value work-life balance a lot

[2017-11-22 14:47:39] bin4ry : you might be a special case then, since you seem to hybrid between eu and us

[2017-11-22 14:47:48] marlasr : right

[2017-11-22 14:47:57] marlasr : getting best from both worlds

[2017-11-22 14:48:02] marlasr : problem is a bit with family

[2017-11-22 14:48:02] bin4ry : sounds nice

[2017-11-22 14:48:07] marlasr : and a lot of trips

[2017-11-22 14:48:13] bin4ry : i see that

[2017-11-22 14:48:42] marlasr : not sure why company sometimes insists on my physical presence in US but oh well :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:48:59] bin4ry : heh

[2017-11-22 14:49:05] bin4ry : you have an eu or us contract ?

[2017-11-22 14:49:14] marlasr : both... it's complicated

[2017-11-22 14:49:17] bin4ry : lol

[2017-11-22 14:49:22] bin4ry : so you have a work visa too ?

[2017-11-22 14:49:33] bin4ry : or only a temp one

[2017-11-22 14:49:34] marlasr : green card, yes :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:49:37] bin4ry : i see

[2017-11-22 14:49:39] bin4ry : funny

[2017-11-22 14:49:55] marlasr : i could get citizenship but that would mean giving up eu one.... not inclined to do so :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:50:16] bin4ry : yeah problem is that your country would need to allow you to keep it

[2017-11-22 14:50:28] marlasr : anyway, i am employee and consultant (more of the management thing) so i have eu contract as employee an us as manager

[2017-11-22 14:50:48] bin4ry : i know germany does if you ask them, but you need a valid reason. for example gov jobs that you cannot get until you are a us citizen etc.

[2017-11-22 14:51:09] bin4ry : ah and the management job does make it easy for the GC

[2017-11-22 14:51:17] marlasr : nothing like that, highly controlled environment (FDA and stuff) but nothing serious as NSA or alike :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:51:29] bin4ry : nono, i was just spinning ideas for you

[2017-11-22 14:51:34] bin4ry : i know that from a friend of me

[2017-11-22 14:52:04] bin4ry : many companies can only offer you a job if you are a citizen since they deal with gov and then sometimes it is necceary due to security

[2017-11-22 14:52:05] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-11-22 14:52:24] bin4ry : and in that cases you can ask here to keep your citizienship while getting the us one

[2017-11-22 14:52:31] bin4ry : somebody i know did it this way

[2017-11-22 14:53:05] marlasr : actually, my us job is mostly consultancy/mgmt with very specific knowledge so every us gvmt had no problems with me :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:53:15] bin4ry : yeah i see :wink:

[2017-11-22 14:53:26] bin4ry : also it is sometimes not good to have an us passport

[2017-11-22 14:53:30] marlasr : as they couldn't find similar person interested in job for a year or so

[2017-11-22 14:53:38] bin4ry : you would be needed to fill an us tax declaration too then

[2017-11-22 14:53:40] bin4ry : forever

[2017-11-22 14:53:41] bin4ry : ;D

[2017-11-22 14:54:14] marlasr : even trump couldn't say no :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:54:56] bin4ry : lol

[2017-11-22 14:55:21] bin4ry : i am happy with my vacation ESTA

[2017-11-22 14:55:31] bin4ry : can move around free pretty much

[2017-11-22 14:56:40] bin4ry : only i cannot work. but when i am there i don't want to work i want to enjoy :wink:

[2017-11-22 14:57:52] marlasr : as i said already, i like some things in europe more and some other in us more :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:58:05] marlasr : and new zealand has it all but is waaaaay too far :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:58:19] marlasr : i already suffer at least 30, 40 days a year just from jet lag

[2017-11-22 14:58:41] bin4ry : haha, yeah i cannot imagine traveling so much

[2017-11-22 14:58:51] marlasr : and yes, cannot get vacation longer then a week when in us :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:58:56] marlasr : can get whatever i want in EU :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:59:30] marlasr : it was easier when i was younger, now even in business class it gets somewhat tiresome :smile:

[2017-11-22 14:59:39] bin4ry : we can switch

[2017-11-22 14:59:48] bin4ry : i take your businessclass ticket

[2017-11-22 14:59:50] bin4ry : and you get my eco

[2017-11-22 14:59:54] marlasr : hahahahaa :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:00:00] marlasr : anyways, practical site

[2017-11-22 15:00:03] marlasr : [seatguru.com](http://seatguru.com)

[2017-11-22 15:00:03] bin4ry : after that you value business class again

[2017-11-22 15:00:11] bin4ry : i know that

[2017-11-22 15:00:11] marlasr : so you can choose good eco seat as well :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:00:13] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-11-22 15:00:32] bin4ry : also i try to engineer the best price usually

[2017-11-22 15:00:40] marlasr : i have more flying tricks on how to get business upgrade for free etc.... especially as frequent flyer you get access to lounges and stuff

[2017-11-22 15:00:53] marlasr : i engineer shortest time as company is paying for tickets :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:00:57] bin4ry : too bad i only fly usually once a year

[2017-11-22 15:01:05] bin4ry : so i dont get any status

[2017-11-22 15:01:07] haloweenhamster : Looked at a job in new Zealand money is to low for me

[2017-11-22 15:01:17] marlasr : it depends

[2017-11-22 15:01:31] bin4ry : well my last ticket to the us was with Lufthansa

[2017-11-22 15:01:38] marlasr : the best!!!

[2017-11-22 15:01:45] bin4ry : it was QDU (Düsseldorf trainstation) to MIA

[2017-11-22 15:01:47] marlasr : swiss air and lufthansa is the way to travel :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:01:57] bin4ry : QDU -> FRA -> MIA

[2017-11-22 15:02:05] bin4ry : FRA -> MIA itself was 700€ per person

[2017-11-22 15:02:11] marlasr : ah, you are not so bad, you know airport abbreviations :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:02:15] bin4ry : QDU -> FRA -> MIA was 300€ per person

[2017-11-22 15:02:47] bin4ry : found it with google ITA matrix

[2017-11-22 15:02:49] marlasr : and they do it that way... cheap one side, but expensive in another :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:02:58] vo : i took lufthansa earlier this year

[2017-11-22 15:03:02] marlasr : ha, see this traveller :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:03:15] bin4ry : nah 300€ per person in TOTAL

[2017-11-22 15:03:24] marlasr : nice deal :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:03:31] bin4ry : @vo that is only 3 km or so from where i live

[2017-11-22 15:03:47] marlasr : and you allowed luggage, get at least water at airplane? can use lavatory? :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:04:13] bin4ry : okok more like 5 direct way (just checked google maps )

[2017-11-22 15:04:20] marlasr : are these bronderburg gates or whatever they are called?

[2017-11-22 15:04:37] bin4ry : @marlasr was normal eco ticket 1 bag of luggage, food etc etc

[2017-11-22 15:04:45] marlasr : very good deal

[2017-11-22 15:04:46] bin4ry : brandenburger gate yeah

[2017-11-22 15:04:53] bin4ry : i usually find those deals

[2017-11-22 15:04:54] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-11-22 15:05:04] bin4ry : i even found it before the major deal sites had it

[2017-11-22 15:05:05] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:05:14] marlasr : was there looong ago :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:05:15] bin4ry : exploiting stuff ... i just like it :wink:

[2017-11-22 15:05:27] vo : i got round trip from WOW airlines through iceland from Washington DC to Berlin for around $350

[2017-11-22 15:05:35] marlasr : and i can say naturlich and aufwiedersehn :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:05:45] bin4ry : yay, but you are back now? or still here ?

[2017-11-22 15:05:49] bin4ry : if you are here we can meet

[2017-11-22 15:05:58] marlasr : love is in the air :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:06:04] vo : nah, i'm back home now in Washington DC

[2017-11-22 15:06:18] marlasr : how do you fly your birds there trololololololol :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:06:23] bin4ry : i see

[2017-11-22 15:06:26] marlasr : entire DC is huge no fly zone :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:06:32] bin4ry : actually it is forbidden to fly birds in berlin too

[2017-11-22 15:06:34] marlasr : i know as i was there too :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:06:44] bin4ry : atleast 5,5 km radius around the reichstag

[2017-11-22 15:07:07] marlasr : not to throw bombs on merkel :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:07:08] marlasr : hahahahaa

[2017-11-22 15:07:14] bin4ry : yah smth like that

[2017-11-22 15:07:18] bin4ry : they got paranoid lately

[2017-11-22 15:07:28] marlasr : but she can't make government... struggling with oposition :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:07:31] vo : @marlasr Not allowed to fly within 15 miles (24km) of national airport (KDCA). my office is right across the street of KDCA

[2017-11-22 15:08:12] bin4ry : but @marlasr how do you get free business upgrade, whats your trick there?

[2017-11-22 15:08:44] marlasr : freq flyers collect miles, you can convert them into the upgrade

[2017-11-22 15:08:53] marlasr : or know how to ask if you can get upgrade :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:09:00] bin4ry : ah ok

[2017-11-22 15:09:05] kyokushin : what has been seen that cannot be unseen. i will avoid lufthansa :joy:

[2017-11-22 15:09:06] marlasr : and know which planes are usually half empty

[2017-11-22 15:09:32] marlasr : cause it's not proportional... sometimes it's 110% overbooking in eco and 10 seats available in business

[2017-11-22 15:09:36] bin4ry : @kyokushin why avoid lufthansa ?

[2017-11-22 15:09:48] bin4ry : yah thats true for the booking

[2017-11-22 15:09:55] bin4ry : i got 1 time an upgarde to premium eco

[2017-11-22 15:09:58] marlasr : thats my question too... i now only fly lufthansa and swiss air

[2017-11-22 15:09:58] bin4ry : that was nice

[2017-11-22 15:10:03] bin4ry : but that was just random though

[2017-11-22 15:10:06] bin4ry : FRA to BOS

[2017-11-22 15:10:30] kyokushin : i joked, va photo have lens distorion, and that made me laugh :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:10:33] bin4ry : scanned my boarding pass and the light did not went to green but yellow

[2017-11-22 15:10:37] bin4ry : then a print

[2017-11-22 15:10:42] bin4ry : **UPGRADE**

[2017-11-22 15:10:43] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:10:44] bin4ry : lol

[2017-11-22 15:11:02] bin4ry : but next time i asked nicely

[2017-11-22 15:11:06] bin4ry : they said no way

[2017-11-22 15:11:07] marlasr : FRA to BOS is usually packed, BUT BOS to FRA is not so much :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:11:08] bin4ry : ^^

[2017-11-22 15:11:20] marlasr : and everyone want's that evening flight from BOS

[2017-11-22 15:11:30] marlasr : so if you get earlier one, it's half empty :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:11:48] bin4ry : i asked on the flight back

[2017-11-22 15:11:58] bin4ry : prem eco was empty

[2017-11-22 15:12:01] bin4ry : nearly

[2017-11-22 15:12:05] marlasr : and refused? :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:12:08] bin4ry : and my in seat entertainment was broken

[2017-11-22 15:12:12] bin4ry : so i asked what we can do

[2017-11-22 15:12:13] marlasr : you have no flyer carma as i do :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:12:14] bin4ry : since eco is full

[2017-11-22 15:12:33] bin4ry : and they the new monitor did not work

[2017-11-22 15:12:39] bin4ry : they offered us 100€

[2017-11-22 15:12:41] bin4ry : but no upgrade

[2017-11-22 15:12:43] marlasr : so going to boston is the best from Zurich...

[2017-11-22 15:12:44] bin4ry : totally strange

[2017-11-22 15:13:08] marlasr : one of my favorite airports... which can't be said for let's say CDG :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:13:13] bin4ry : i need to find a way to collect miles without flying

[2017-11-22 15:13:20] bin4ry : i never was there

[2017-11-22 15:13:24] bin4ry : not flying so much

[2017-11-22 15:13:31] bin4ry : i only was BOS, MIA

[2017-11-22 15:13:42] bin4ry : FRA, DUS and Dortmund (don't know the code)

[2017-11-22 15:13:49] bin4ry : also Weeze

[2017-11-22 15:13:58] bin4ry : and to one in greece

[2017-11-22 15:14:02] bin4ry : but i dont remember i was small

[2017-11-22 15:14:02] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:14:06] marlasr : hahahaaa

[2017-11-22 15:14:14] marlasr : need to do a build, hold on :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:14:21] marlasr : not consulter but code monkey currently :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:15:11] vo : round trip for $339, like next week

[2017-11-22 15:15:11] vo : lol

[2017-11-22 15:15:33] marlasr : gee guys, i try to avoid flying, not to have more of it :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:15:39] bin4ry : 10h 1 stop

[2017-11-22 15:15:41] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:15:44] marlasr : and i am sure i got way too much radiation and stuff

[2017-11-22 15:15:48] marlasr : i do shine in the dark :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:15:54] vo : yeah that's not so bad for a $339 ticket though. everything else is $1000+

[2017-11-22 15:15:59] bin4ry : i see

[2017-11-22 15:16:47] bin4ry : usually for me LH comes out cheapest

[2017-11-22 15:16:54] bin4ry : if you choose some trainstation as the start

[2017-11-22 15:17:07] bin4ry : then you get the trainticket along with the flightticket

[2017-11-22 15:17:31] bin4ry : just found another one direct flight 411€ MUC -> MIA and back with train ticket

[2017-11-22 15:17:41] bin4ry : if you book without train ticket its expensive

[2017-11-22 15:18:07] bin4ry : to BOS even cheaper

[2017-11-22 15:18:09] bin4ry : 399€

[2017-11-22 15:18:27] bin4ry : washington is expensive here

[2017-11-22 15:18:38] bin4ry : but i see the WOW one

[2017-11-22 15:18:44] bin4ry : 368€

[2017-11-22 15:18:48] bin4ry : only cheap one

[2017-11-22 15:19:10] vo : yeah WOW has some incredible prices but of course you are forced to stop at KEF

[2017-11-22 15:19:25] marlasr : oh bin4ry, just checked and seems my company has office in germany too :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:19:38] bin4ry : heh :wink: if its pharma then its prolly here too :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:19:51] bin4ry : @vo i usually try to avoid stopping

[2017-11-22 15:19:58] bin4ry : ill be happy to pay extra to fly direct

[2017-11-22 15:20:12] marlasr : it's IT but doing stuff for pharma :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:20:18] marlasr : 100% IT company

[2017-11-22 15:20:33] marlasr : i do like stops at nice airports :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:20:40] marlasr : so CDG and Heatrow are off :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:20:50] marlasr : FRA and Zurich are the ones i like

[2017-11-22 15:21:03] marlasr : for BOS (logan) not sure yet :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:21:42] vo : for me i'm OK with stopping if it will save me $1000 or so. especially if it's at a decent airport. i once had a layover in Istanbul airport and they have an incredible airport lounge there. definitely NOT CDG lol

[2017-11-22 15:21:54] vo : CDG is a zoo

[2017-11-22 15:21:55] bin4ry : @vo yah sure. i am talking 100$ or so :wink:

[2017-11-22 15:22:05] bin4ry : FRA is crazy, its so big :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:23:01] vo : another thing that I found fun to do was take a train from Graz Austria to Zurich

[2017-11-22 15:23:21] vo : taking trains in the USA is terrible

[2017-11-22 15:23:43] bin4ry : hehe, trains here are pretty good. atleast the big ones not the regional ones

[2017-11-22 15:23:52] marlasr : pitty they sell only cigarettes and parfumes in airplanes... imagine getting drones duty free :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:24:16] marlasr : airports do have mavics and sparks... found them in zurich, boston and pitts

[2017-11-22 15:24:24] bin4ry : a pity they don't sell stuff tax free in the US for visitors

[2017-11-22 15:24:25] marlasr : spare batteries as well

[2017-11-22 15:24:30] bin4ry : like we do for visitors

[2017-11-22 15:24:37] vo : i'm traveling to Colombia tomorrow, hopefully can get some duty free Cocaine and putas

[2017-11-22 15:24:40] vo : just kidding

[2017-11-22 15:24:50] marlasr : bin4ry highest tax in US is in taxachusetts and taxafornia...

[2017-11-22 15:24:52] vo : but i am traveling to Colombia tomorrow

[2017-11-22 15:24:53] bin4ry : "kidding" :wink:

[2017-11-22 15:24:54] marlasr : 6.25%

[2017-11-22 15:25:26] marlasr : i really don't mind paying 6.25% over let's say 19% merwesteuer or whatever :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:25:47] bin4ry : yah, but here you can shop tax-free as a visitor

[2017-11-22 15:25:55] marlasr : not true

[2017-11-22 15:25:57] bin4ry : and then take you chances at home

[2017-11-22 15:25:59] bin4ry : :wink:

[2017-11-22 15:26:06] marlasr : you pay tax and do a lot of paperwork to have it returned!!!

[2017-11-22 15:26:23] marlasr : made in a way it does not pay timewise and nervewise to go for it

[2017-11-22 15:27:04] haloweenhamster : 5mins & 115+ messages to catch up

[2017-11-22 15:27:21] bin4ry : there are shops were you get it done in shop by the time buying. atleast it was so some years back

[2017-11-22 15:27:30] bin4ry : you only would have to do the paperwork upfront

[2017-11-22 15:28:41] marlasr : hmm... need to recheck germany tax system :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:28:45] bin4ry : atleast thats what i understood back then

[2017-11-22 15:28:55] bin4ry : lol

[2017-11-22 15:28:55] bin4ry : might be i am wrong though, since i cannot get arefund anyway

[2017-11-22 15:29:08] marlasr : usually, i had to pay, then to find some very well stashed office and do gazillion of papers etc...

[2017-11-22 15:29:15] bin4ry : lol

[2017-11-22 15:29:27] bin4ry : and things here are more expensive than in the us anyway

[2017-11-22 15:29:31] bin4ry : so if you travel there often ...

[2017-11-22 15:29:43] marlasr : well, some things i can buy only in germany

[2017-11-22 15:29:55] marlasr : or even better in czech republic :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:30:06] marlasr : no becherowka in us, at least didn't find it yet

[2017-11-22 15:30:39] bin4ry : hehe ok

[2017-11-22 15:30:41] bin4ry : thats true

[2017-11-22 15:30:45] marlasr : europe is far more expensive than us....

[2017-11-22 15:30:50] marlasr : that's true

[2017-11-22 15:30:52] vo : @marlasr i can get that down the street. <https://www.abc.virginia.gov/products/cordials/becherovka#/product?productSize=0>

[2017-11-22 15:31:25] marlasr : @vo try to order... it will be on backorder and arrive in a month or so :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:31:36] vo : it says it's in-store though

[2017-11-22 15:31:42] marlasr : awesome!!! :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:31:49] bin4ry : try get some decent cheese there

[2017-11-22 15:31:57] bin4ry : and not pay much money

[2017-11-22 15:31:57] marlasr : i need to hang more with you then, you know where to find painkillers :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:32:24] marlasr : could not find it in entire new england and look this link!! :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:33:24] marlasr : not willing to go to virginia though :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:33:37] marlasr : just for becherovka :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:33:39] bin4ry : lol

[2017-11-22 15:34:21] marlasr : cheddar cheese is all you get in us :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:34:27] bin4ry : i found it very hard to find good cheese in florida. everytime i found some stupid simple gouda it would cost hilarious amounts of money

[2017-11-22 15:34:50] marlasr : i got used to it tho... :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:35:04] bin4ry : also "good" bread, i don't like white bread i like whole grain without sugar in it

[2017-11-22 15:35:09] bin4ry : was hard to find some :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:35:39] marlasr : on the other side... you can't get new spark for 349$ anywhere in the world except in US for black friday :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:35:43] bin4ry : apart from that the amounts of fruit and such in folrida in the publix markets were awesome

[2017-11-22 15:35:48] marlasr : wondering how many this year will get killed in stampedos :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:36:20] marlasr : bin4ry: new england has a lot of good bread....

[2017-11-22 15:36:48] marlasr : whole grain, oatmeal, corn based.... very good and nice choices

[2017-11-22 15:37:13] marlasr : nyc shops also have nice breads

[2017-11-22 15:37:32] marlasr : deli shops that is :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:38:34] bin4ry : i believe that

[2017-11-22 15:38:36] bin4ry : i was in NYC

[2017-11-22 15:38:45] bin4ry : but i could not get used to the small tucked in shops

[2017-11-22 15:38:55] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:38:55] bin4ry : were only 1 person has enough space to move

[2017-11-22 15:39:08] bin4ry : so i was never too long in them

[2017-11-22 15:39:12] marlasr : well, that's very nyc thing

[2017-11-22 15:39:22] marlasr : other cities/places are actually too spread :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:39:26] bin4ry : did not like nyc this much

[2017-11-22 15:39:36] bin4ry : loved Boston

[2017-11-22 15:40:02] marlasr : once you get used to new england weather, yes... boston is nice

[2017-11-22 15:42:18] marlasr : nyc is huge... you either like it or hate it.... but i'm sure everyone would like Village :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:49:34] bin4ry : it was nice to see for sure, but not my thing

[2017-11-22 15:50:01] bin4ry : but i love florida :wink:

[2017-11-22 15:50:27] bin4ry : but next trip needs to be westcoast, we were only at the eastcoast yet

[2017-11-22 15:53:41] marlasr : nothing too exciting if you go usual SF, LA route :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:53:50] marlasr : a lot of plastics and spanish for sure :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:54:30] marlasr : and overbleached teeth as well :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:54:49] marlasr : san matteo, santa barbara... now we speak a bit more authentic experience

[2017-11-22 15:55:52] bin4ry : heh, we usually go 2-3 weeks rent a car and do a road-trip thing

[2017-11-22 15:56:05] bin4ry : not stay in one place too long

[2017-11-22 15:56:12] marlasr : definitely the way to go!!! thumps up!!!

[2017-11-22 15:56:34] marlasr : don't mix miles for kms.... you'll get speeding ticket anyway... i know i do ;D

[2017-11-22 15:56:56] bin4ry : lol

[2017-11-22 15:56:59] bin4ry : i never did yet

[2017-11-22 15:57:05] marlasr : last time i got one at the exit of big dig in boston... not sure how they even measured me

[2017-11-22 15:57:08] bin4ry : and i drove some miles in florida already :wink:

[2017-11-22 15:57:22] bin4ry : usually going 5 mph or so over

[2017-11-22 15:57:29] marlasr : was pulled of and served with 150$ fine

[2017-11-22 15:57:33] bin4ry : heh

[2017-11-22 15:57:57] marlasr : and it was like 2am or something... really didn't see it coming :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:58:32] bin4ry : hehe, well then you were wide awake again i think

[2017-11-22 15:58:33] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-11-22 15:59:17] marlasr : indeed

[2017-11-22 15:59:41] marlasr : good stuff about america is that once you request manual transmission for rent, everyone looks at you like at schumacher :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:00:16] marlasr : like you know how to use that stick? :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:01:07] haloweenhamster : luckily I'm in the UK, got stopped doing 55 in a 30 and police just told me to watch my speed

[2017-11-22 16:01:58] marlasr : yeah, britfags are more polite :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:02:21] marlasr : but friggin cameras everywhere, like literary everywhere

[2017-11-22 16:02:31] marlasr : those gatsos....

[2017-11-22 16:02:43] haloweenhamster : :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:02:44] bin4ry : they got us speeding here in germany

[2017-11-22 16:02:50] bin4ry : they added a new speedcam

[2017-11-22 16:02:57] bin4ry : no fucking light when it gets you

[2017-11-22 16:02:59] bin4ry : fuckers

[2017-11-22 16:03:01] marlasr : nah, autobahn is fine, i was only limited by my car, not by law :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:03:08] bin4ry : lol not true

[2017-11-22 16:03:15] bin4ry : most of the autobahn is limited

[2017-11-22 16:03:23] bin4ry : we were going 23 too much

[2017-11-22 16:04:04] haloweenhamster : Been followed with blues before and got away with it

[2017-11-22 16:04:08] bin4ry : :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:04:20] marlasr : in germany it's totally unfair... you have no chance when shoot from the back

[2017-11-22 16:04:27] marlasr : when you pass those bridges

[2017-11-22 16:04:40] marlasr : no chance you can spot it nor nothing and i think shooting from back should be banned :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:04:45] marlasr : it's just not fair :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:04:51] bin4ry : they dont shoot from the back here

[2017-11-22 16:04:55] marlasr : they do :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:05:02] bin4ry : nah, only both directions

[2017-11-22 16:05:06] bin4ry : you always need to see the driver

[2017-11-22 16:05:06] marlasr : usually from the bridges

[2017-11-22 16:05:10] bin4ry : trust me

[2017-11-22 16:05:25] haloweenhamster : I thought that

[2017-11-22 16:05:26] bin4ry : i know for sure

[2017-11-22 16:05:36] bin4ry : i got enough tickets and i know the law :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:05:39] bin4ry : if you got an backshot

[2017-11-22 16:05:44] marlasr : hmm... indeed i never got ticket from germany :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:05:45] bin4ry : they have one of your front too

[2017-11-22 16:06:21] haloweenhamster : Got to be careful next time as they now fine international

[2017-11-22 16:06:32] bin4ry : yah true

[2017-11-22 16:06:33] marlasr : and those averaging measurements are friggin annoying too

[2017-11-22 16:06:37] bin4ry : i got fined in amsterdam

[2017-11-22 16:06:38] bin4ry : wow

[2017-11-22 16:06:41] bin4ry : so much money

[2017-11-22 16:06:47] bin4ry : -.-

[2017-11-22 16:07:06] marlasr : like you might know position of camera/radar but you still cannot speed as they measure average sometimes

[2017-11-22 16:07:16] marlasr : so if you get too quickly somewhere... fine again :disappointed:

[2017-11-22 16:07:24] haloweenhamster : France & Germany never chased international drivers unless they stopped them

[2017-11-22 16:07:48] marlasr : in croatia we have those so called "interceptors"

[2017-11-22 16:08:18] marlasr : from outside you'll never tell it's 500hp+ machine with all the bells and whisles for measuring

[2017-11-22 16:08:56] marlasr : and then all of the sudden, lightshow.... pulling over and fine... :disappointed:

[2017-11-22 16:09:15] marlasr : not only they have pics but entire friggin video :smile:

[2017-11-22 16:09:30] marlasr : with all the data... you feel totally doxxed

[2017-11-22 16:12:58] bin4ry : that shit about the average speed, they tried that here, but it was declined

[2017-11-22 16:27:00] haloweenhamster : Starting to roll that out here, worse in Scotland

[2017-11-22 16:59:14] jcarlo : This thread have been very busy lately

[2017-11-22 19:56:02] marlasr : yeah, need some dynamics :smile: to defrag the brain from usual 01010111010001110100 stuff :smile:

[2017-11-23 13:56:56] hello : Got sent on the speed awareness course recently... funniest bit at the end, they took a poll asking the question - would you speed again? Everyone voted yes :blush:

[2017-11-23 14:00:46] marlasr : i am pretty much sure, and @bin4ry can confirm this as he's physicist, is that faster you go, dilatation of time is bigger, thus you live longer!

[2017-11-23 14:08:05] haloweenhamster : @hello you British? @marlasr if that's the case I'm ok ;-) did a 75min journey in 35mins the other week, 153mph where I could (about half of it)

[2017-11-23 14:09:15] jezzab : My state in Australia is bad. They have cams for average speed on the big interstate highways, the normal ones they have fixed cams for speed and red light and then they have mobile ones that hide. And they use unmarked cars on the side of the road

[2017-11-23 14:10:04] jezzab : Mount the radar where the number plate is on their car or hide it in the grill.

[2017-11-23 14:36:26] marlasr : so, purpose is not preemptive measures but to earn by ticketing... yeah...

[2017-11-23 14:37:18] marlasr : @jezzab: what city in australia you liv?

[2017-11-23 14:37:20] marlasr : live*

[2017-11-23 14:38:08] marlasr : send us selfie with that EEV blog dude :smile: he's cool :smile:

[2017-11-23 14:42:21] haloweenhamster : Eev?

[2017-11-23 14:42:48] haloweenhamster : My wife likes the ozzy man reviews

[2017-11-23 15:08:49] marlasr : <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2DjFE7Xf11URZqWBigcVOQ>

[2017-11-23 15:09:02] marlasr : not knowing greatest ozzie geek is unforgivable :smile:

[2017-11-23 19:30:38] hello : @haloweenhamster yes, down in West London. Regarding speed awareness, I was doing 38 in a 30, snapped by a mobile unit!

[2017-11-23 19:33:45] ensjesse : Awesome read <https://github.com/mntmn/amiga2000-gfxcard/blob/master/README.md>

[2017-11-24 06:18:11] jezzab : Melbourne

[2017-11-24 12:23:04] czokie : Anyone considering buying a license for Charles Proxy - coupon code CHARLESBLACK17 = 30% off.

[2017-11-24 13:52:19] marlasr : nice....

[2017-11-24 13:52:36] marlasr : to that's dji is using to talk to aliens about occusync tech? :smile:

[2017-11-29 13:21:18] jezzab : Just been a big vote in Oz about marriage equality legalisation. Couple of bogans on FB going at it

[2017-11-29 13:22:42] bin4ry : i saw that post some time ago, laughed my ass off

[2017-11-29 14:54:50] kilrah : LOL

[2017-11-29 15:01:46] bin4ry : hehe prolly right

[2017-11-29 15:05:22] kilrah : “Version 429 is the one released on the 28th November. I have previously seen 422, 424, 426 and now 429 but all have been version 4.1.18”

[2017-11-29 15:06:17] bin4ry : thats really nightlys then

[2017-11-29 15:06:18] bin4ry : haha

[2017-11-29 15:06:44] bin4ry : maybe the buildserver is pushing the wrong branch :stuck_out_tongue:

[2017-11-29 15:07:25] kilrah : have they ever been building the correct branch? Seems they alaways select the “broken - don’t use” one :joy:

[2017-11-29 15:08:25] bin4ry : hahahaha yeah might be

[2017-11-29 15:08:34] bin4ry : maybe it's reversed for them

[2017-11-29 15:08:38] bin4ry : stable - internal

[2017-11-29 15:08:43] bin4ry : unstable - public testing

[2017-11-29 15:10:21] haloweenhamster : :joy:

[2017-11-30 07:27:51] bin4ry : lol

[2017-11-30 08:34:17] totojetest : Offtopic, but is there somebody who can help me ? i have nexus 5x, and last month a known error has occurred (bootlop of death). now its working at 75% of power. Friend of mine can sell me Pixel 2 for very good price, but it is sim locked to ee GB carrier. is there a way to unlock it (free, or for reasonable price) ?

[2017-11-30 13:52:29] kilrah : apple have been quick, fix for the root vuln released yesterday is now up

[2017-11-30 13:52:32] kilrah : faster than DJI :smile:

[2017-11-30 14:12:09] bin4ry : heh

[2017-11-30 14:12:15] bin4ry : should be

[2017-11-30 21:25:31] jezzab : And they even said Sorry

[2017-11-30 22:34:48] cs2000 : Hmm, maybe its just a bad location, but i prefer the Litchi output to DJI GO's

[2017-11-30 22:35:01] cs2000 : looks more "real"

[2017-11-30 22:37:26] cs2000 : That was taken with 100+ images however, full size its almost 50mb and you can zoom in a long way too

[2017-12-01 00:05:18] haloweenhamster : 34 images

[2017-12-01 00:06:49] haloweenhamster : Is how many go gets it to take with auto stitching

[2017-12-01 03:18:25] ozflyer : That looks cool. How you do that. Take if you need 4.1.18 go4 and latest firmware. Is it possible to downgrade if you remove certain modules from 4.0100 at this point

[2017-12-01 03:45:43] ozflyer : That a Pano photo I take it. Just spinning 360?

[2017-12-01 06:47:49] jezzab : PanoSphere

[2017-12-01 06:48:08] jezzab : Your .0100 and .18 app will do it

[2017-12-01 06:49:19] jezzab : And no you can’t flash anything on .0100 with mixing and matching modules as have to flash a lower firmware with just the old modules you wish to keep and then flash a later fw without those creating a mixed match fw

[2017-12-01 08:07:11] kilrah : Well and now they pulled a DJI! Fix borked file sharing, they re-released a fix for the fix without bumping the version :joy:

[2017-12-01 08:07:59] jezzab : The old switcheroo

[2017-12-01 08:08:38] kilrah : file sharing actually working here

[2017-12-01 08:10:26] kilrah : and I'm not seeing the 2nd one...

[2017-12-02 03:25:27] czokie : Unrelated to IT: Daughter now in exam room for her first music exam - Waiting outside with anticipation :)

[2017-12-02 03:27:20] lolo780 : Went to the store to buy a Mavic esc board. Ended up with this

[2017-12-02 03:41:16] jcarlo : Lol

[2017-12-02 03:41:23] nocommie : Um, I don't think that will fit in teh mavic

[2017-12-02 03:41:37] nocommie : That might be a MPP ESC board

[2017-12-02 03:41:42] jcarlo : How much?

[2017-12-02 03:42:18] jcarlo : Hopefully I can get a decent inspire next year for $900

[2017-12-02 03:43:00] nocommie : Seriously though, I have an I1. Bought it used right after the i2 started shipping. Pristine condition, 2 controllers and 4 batts for like $1400.

[2017-12-02 03:43:26] nocommie : It is still a great machine. Now when we can patch Go3.....

[2017-12-02 03:55:20] lolo780 : $200 with a broken arm.

[2017-12-02 03:56:13] nocommie : wow, good deal!

[2017-12-02 03:57:09] lolo780 : Hopefully. All I could do was start the motors. Cam mount needs a part. But I figure at that price I could part it and still get my money back.

[2017-12-02 03:57:17] lolo780 : Came with tb47 and tb48

[2017-12-02 04:32:30] jezzab : Since this is ~random. Any one here have a Vizio Crave 360? Could not find a single Google Cast rechargeable speaker in Aus (want to use it outside and cast from the Google Home) so I ended up buying one of these from the US but haven't got it yet.

[2017-12-02 04:46:03] czokie : Blackout

[2017-12-02 04:46:08] czokie : No power

[2017-12-02 04:46:18] czokie : No computer :(

[2017-12-02 04:47:39] czokie : Daughter was nervous. Now just have to wait for results in a few days

[2017-12-02 04:47:58] czokie : And wait for power to come back

[2017-12-02 04:51:16] jezzab : AMEB exam?

[2017-12-02 04:51:39] czokie : Yep. I used to teach music years ago.

[2017-12-02 04:52:22] czokie : But have someone else teaching her now. I don't have the patience to teach her

[2017-12-02 04:52:22] jezzab : I used to be right into it and play in Concert band comps. year 11 VCE music in year 10 blah blah. Percussion in that but guitar was my forte

[2017-12-02 04:52:30] jezzab : What does she play?

[2017-12-02 04:52:35] czokie : Keys

[2017-12-02 04:52:38] czokie : Same as me

[2017-12-02 04:52:57] jezzab : Cool. I only went to 3rd year piano and dropped it lol

[2017-12-02 04:53:01] jezzab : Not for me.

[2017-12-02 04:53:18] jezzab : Remember next to nothing now :disappointed:

[2017-12-02 04:54:38] jezzab : Still play lead and acoustic guitar but not drums or bass anymore

[2017-12-02 04:54:52] jezzab : Music's a good thing :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-12-02 05:07:05] jezzab : Well I wish her the best of luck!

[2017-12-02 06:36:15] kilrah : Meh, all I hear these days is "there isn't going to be another jailbreak"... 2 of the main cydia repos closed a couple of days ago too :disappointed:

[2017-12-02 06:45:54] jezzab : Too much money selling the exploit :/

[2017-12-02 06:59:08] kilrah : probably :confused:

[2017-12-02 07:12:07] marlasr : which one is removeLogin?

[2017-12-02 07:12:53] marlasr : apple pays 200k for jailbreaks so yeah... won't happen anytime soon

[2017-12-02 07:13:15] contact : <https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Bin4ry/deejayeye-modder/master/Patch-Descriptions.txt>

[2017-12-02 07:13:47] marlasr : @contact have you actually read file you are linking? :smile:

[2017-12-02 07:14:10] marlasr : it is in description but not in bat :smile:

[2017-12-02 07:14:39] contact : then you probably don't have the latest version from github :wink:

[2017-12-02 07:15:03] marlasr : freshly downloaded

[2017-12-02 07:15:07] marlasr : Remove login: For 4.1.8 and 4.1.14 it removes the login completely

[2017-12-02 07:15:13] marlasr : i think it's named differently in bat

[2017-12-02 07:15:35] marlasr : or if you check patches folder, you will not find removeLogin.patch for 4.1.14

[2017-12-02 07:16:05] contact : ah, it was renamed: > Switch from removeLogin to fakeLogin.

[2017-12-02 07:17:34] marlasr : Fake login: You can either login with your real account (online) or use the fake accout. To use the fake account you have to go offline (airplane mode) and put any non-numeric characters in the login box.

[2017-12-02 07:17:36] marlasr : hmm.....

[2017-12-02 07:17:42] marlasr : i think this is different one

[2017-12-02 07:19:19] marlasr : need to wait for @bin4ry

[2017-12-02 07:40:08] haloweenhamster : Remove login breaks flight logs and something else, fake login you can enter user = a pass =b and everything works as it should, hence why remove login was replaced by fake login

[2017-12-02 07:40:31] haloweenhamster : !beer

[2017-12-02 07:49:44] jezzab : Damn straight

[2017-12-02 07:56:15] bin4ry : @haloweenhamster is correct. Just enter any nonnumeric creds and they will work. It will login you as "DJI Troll User" :wink:

[2017-12-02 07:59:19] marlasr : haaha awesome

[2017-12-02 07:59:24] marlasr : tnx folks

[2017-12-02 07:59:36] marlasr : anyway, description.txt needs some love to state all of this :smile:

[2017-12-02 08:03:36] jezzab : You could always do a pull request and update it @marlasr ;)

[2017-12-02 08:04:46] marlasr : i don't want to mess with this as i am not an OG :smile:

[2017-12-02 08:04:59] marlasr : if i do something wrong, everyone will trash me :smile:

[2017-12-02 08:11:25] marlasr : Resource data initializing.... for how long this will be rolling?

[2017-12-02 08:11:35] marlasr : 5 minutes and not finished yet

[2017-12-02 08:11:48] sframeligiacomo : hi to all

[2017-12-02 08:12:35] sframeligiacomo : any of you have the dji go 4 4.1.15 mod?

[2017-12-02 08:12:56] marlasr : something like this does not exist

[2017-12-02 08:13:35] sframeligiacomo : ok

[2017-12-02 08:14:39] marlasr : 4.4.1.14 is the latest that can be patched

[2017-12-02 08:15:13] sframeligiacomo : @jezzab goodmorning but because when I try to open 4.1.9 with WinAPK it says it's not supported?

[2017-12-02 08:15:47] sframeligiacomo : @marlasr you have a link for download?

[2017-12-02 08:15:53] sframeligiacomo : please

[2017-12-02 08:16:00] haloweenhamster : I'm going to start on 4.1.18 but its my first time so may take me a while

[2017-12-02 08:16:28] haloweenhamster : !apk

[2017-12-02 08:16:37] sframeligiacomo : ok thanks

[2017-12-02 08:25:15] sframeligiacomo : is there anyone already working on 4.1.18?

[2017-12-02 08:27:53] bin4ry : Do it

[2017-12-02 08:28:35] sframeligiacomo : yes

[2017-12-02 08:37:46] jezzab : It's the description mate. You saw a problem, know the fix. Do it :)

[2017-12-02 08:38:43] jezzab : Could save time for people working on patches having to spend time doing something like updating that

[2017-12-02 08:38:58] jezzab : All helps

[2017-12-02 08:40:24] sframeligiacomo : I'm trying to learn not just to ask I joined here just to understand something more

[2017-12-02 08:41:36] sframeligiacomo : in this moment i have a one problem I can not click on sign in because there are virtual keys in front of me

[2017-12-02 08:56:12] bin4ry : Because you did not apply the patch to fix the layout

[2017-12-02 08:58:01] bin4ry : FixLoginbutton patch read the Patchdescriptions

[2017-12-02 09:00:15] bin4ry : It is in the file already. Or am I missing something? <https://github.com/Bin4ry/deejayeye-modder/blob/master/Patch-Descriptions.txt> There are 3 login patches described. Remove offline and fake. All are there and explained what will happen when you choose it. So I don't understand what should be updated :wink:

[2017-12-02 09:01:59] bin4ry : But this description file could need some serious layout. But that's nothing what I can do. I am not good in visual stuff and I don't care for that :joy:

[2017-12-02 09:38:01] jezzab : What time is it slackbot? !beer

[2017-12-02 13:46:19] kyokushin : is on spark .300 FC f/w works a takich Spheres or i need some mix?

[2017-12-03 03:21:05] ensjesse : !beer for sure!

[2017-12-03 03:23:25] ensjesse : Okay Google, root my bird!

[2017-12-03 03:23:28] ensjesse : :joy:

[2017-12-03 03:23:30] ensjesse : <https://developers.google.com/actions/dialogflow/first-app>

[2017-12-03 03:23:56] ensjesse : Would be fun

[2017-12-03 03:24:20] ensjesse : I picked up the Google Home Mini last week. It's fun

[2017-12-03 07:22:17] jezzab : Thank God I'm nearly finished these Reno's on the folks bathroom. I just have to fit the bath and do the architraves now

[2017-12-03 07:24:04] jezzab : Hate the round and square exhaust fans so I made one. Industrial Vent I cut down and added in an inline fan

[2017-12-03 10:16:29] weprul0r : looks awesome!

[2017-12-03 11:01:57] kilrah : nice

[2017-12-03 13:46:04] arrvodesign : @jezzab before and after … very cool )))

[2017-12-03 15:31:05] ensjesse : Anyone here play with a hackrf?

[2017-12-03 15:51:39] ensjesse : Been wanting to pick one up for a bit.

[2017-12-03 15:53:01] jabuasab : <http://www.kanzhaji.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Shou_Ji_QQ_Shi_Pin_20171126113814.mp4>

[2017-12-03 15:53:07] jabuasab : lol

[2017-12-03 15:53:46] jabuasab : what do you need to know about the hackrf? @ensjesse

[2017-12-03 15:58:34] ensjesse : :) Not too much other than, can it RX from 144 to 148?

[2017-12-03 15:59:16] ensjesse : MHz

[2017-12-03 16:01:13] jabuasab : it operates from 1MHz to 6GHz. i am assuming it can. i have only used it around the 2.4G range

[2017-12-03 16:01:25] jabuasab : "capable of transmission or reception of radio signals from 1 MHz to 6 GHz"

[2017-12-03 16:01:45] jabuasab : you should check the ettus boards out.

[2017-12-03 16:02:53] ensjesse : Thank you! Looks like a fun device to replace my sdrplay with.

[2017-12-03 16:06:38] jabuasab : @ensjesse is there anyone in here that is a pro at GNU Radio?

[2017-12-03 16:22:27] ensjesse : Not sure. But I am sure that I want to start playing with this! <https://youtu.be/adhWIo-7gr4>

[2017-12-03 16:23:00] ensjesse : That is sweet. Imagine setting up remote links all over your city. Your own temperature net or something.

[2017-12-03 16:29:53] jabuasab : Yeah LoRa is pretty cool stuff.

[2017-12-03 16:29:59] jabuasab : @ensjesse <https://www.adafruit.com/?q=lora>

[2017-12-03 16:31:20] jabuasab : i have some friends that messed around with these

[2017-12-03 16:34:51] ensjesse : Thank you! Love their stuff.

[2017-12-03 16:36:37] ensjesse : Have been tinkering with ESP8266 and others for awhile now and really want to get more into communications/do more stuff. Would be nice to have these guys help out for resetting remote relays or something.

[2017-12-03 20:52:22] david : Gang, I ran one of these with my Spark yesterday, and I'm having a very Homer Simpson moment. I can't find info on the feature, so there's a bunch of questions: Does it stitch the sphere automatically? Where does it put it? I found only the 34 portrait images on the card -- nothing stitched. Forgive my idiotic questions about this -- I pride myself in never having to read a manual :laughing: j/k -- but I can't find the answers to these questions within my lazy-driven limited willingness to look :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:

[2017-12-03 21:03:51] haloweenhamster : The app stitches the picture but requires internet

[2017-12-03 21:05:57] rxhenn : the dji app stitches it automatically but for whatever reason doesn’t save the file stitched as a sphere, just a panorama

[2017-12-03 22:20:23] david : hmmm... okay. So what happens with a patched 4.1.14 with all internet access turned off? Does a modded .14 do the stitching? If so, where does it put the image file?

[2017-12-04 04:45:43] bin4ry : @david you should look on ~android_apk_patching and scroll up

[2017-12-04 04:54:30] jezzab : What a Monday. Spent 3 hours listening to the server screaming because it dropped a drive on the RAID5 and trying to get my work done so I could head out and grab another damn drive.

[2017-12-04 04:55:48] jezzab : Surely there is some fucking alarm silence thing SOMEWHERE. Oh well, its done now

[2017-12-04 04:59:14] lolo780 : Ear plugs

[2017-12-04 05:11:43] jezzab : Crossed my mind lol

[2017-12-04 05:12:07] jezzab : Would have blocked out the dog going off over the sound as well

[2017-12-04 05:14:36] lolo780 : That's like when we have an unmuffled race car on the dyno for half a day. Office guys can barely hear the phones. Neighboring businesses complained to the city.

[2017-12-04 11:27:37] marlasr : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2moVhhbnoE>

[2017-12-04 11:27:59] marlasr : 1500 years old, couple of times more than modern america for instance :smile: seen a lot of wars and stuff

[2017-12-04 15:56:03] david : @bin4ry got it, thanks. I'll rebuild.

[2017-12-05 15:03:47] guest : Stupid Americans... (not the ppl her).

[2017-12-05 15:03:58] guest : My ESTA application has been denied.. So basically I'm not allowed into the US :confused: I'm 100% Dutch, and have no criminal record. The funny thing is that I've traveled to the US many times (my old ESTA finished 2 weeks ago) Now I need to make an appointment witht the US consulate in Amsterdam, and go begging for a visa.

[2017-12-05 15:04:49] guest : Stupid people..

[2017-12-05 15:21:51] jabuasab : Nothing too see here anyway

[2017-12-05 16:40:50] kilrah : dafuq...

[2017-12-05 16:41:13] kilrah : didn't even know they could/would deny them, seemed kinda like a heads up only

[2017-12-06 19:13:59] andrwho25 : has anyone had good success with modded antennas for the spark ?

[2017-12-06 19:28:18] marlasr : high gain, long range antennas for selfie drone? :smile:

[2017-12-06 20:43:16] lolo780 : Spark can fly over 5km range. I'm actually looking into the same thing.

[2017-12-06 22:10:15] guest : So as I'm not allowed into the us I will be going to Mexico :slightly_smiling_face: Anyone here who knows about taking a mavic into Mexico? How are the customs?

[2017-12-06 22:19:25] lolo780 : <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Filmed%20in%20Mexico>

[2017-12-06 22:19:53] lolo780 : Or do you actually mean Mexico

[2017-12-06 23:21:34] guest : Lol. I meant Mexico as in "Dos cervezas, por favor"

[2017-12-06 23:42:49] jezzab : !beer

[2017-12-07 04:49:09] ensjesse : Have you guys seen this?

[2017-12-07 04:49:12] ensjesse : <https://youtu.be/lRCH67wfwNE>

[2017-12-07 04:49:32] ensjesse : These Sonoff switches are pretty cool!

[2017-12-07 05:41:03] jezzab : They look good but I cant find anything in the docs about if you use them pass thru with a switch if they will lose the pairing, if they will default to NO or NC etc.

[2017-12-07 07:24:18] ensjesse : Good question. Thats always been my problem with home automation type of stuff is being able to poll the real state correctly. I remember when I had my house wired for X10 you would just have phantom commands about the system and it was not good to put an old style coffee pot on it. Had it start brew in the afternoon accidentally. You would poll a switch and get an on state even when off sometimes.

[2017-12-07 07:30:00] jezzab : More concerned if you have a Switch -> Sonoff -> Light for example and the Sonoff is on and the switch is on. Then you turn the Sonoff off and the person cant turn it back on with the switch

[2017-12-07 07:30:26] jezzab : Philips Hue bulbs I use for example default to ON when there is a power loss

[2017-12-07 07:31:20] jezzab : Was keen on these for the price just want a little more info. Need fallback. Not everyone has a smart phone on them

[2017-12-07 07:31:28] jezzab : Or if the network drops

[2017-12-07 15:45:30] haloweenhamster : What do people think are my chances of picking up a spark fly more for £200 secondhand crashed? Was thinking if I got a mavic fly more for £600 it should be possible

[2017-12-07 16:45:13] lolo780 : Sparks don't seem to get damaged as badly as mavics. To date I have not seen any sparks completely written off, they're always fixable.

[2017-12-07 16:45:38] marlasr : yep, lower mass so physics is a bit different :smile:

[2017-12-07 16:46:15] marlasr : also a lot less inertia which i think is the most common reason for crashes

[2017-12-07 16:46:24] lolo780 : But I see the spark distance record is over 10km round trip now. I'm going to join the party.

[2017-12-07 16:46:36] marlasr : spark can be halted from full speed into standstill in less than 50 meters

[2017-12-07 16:47:00] marlasr : battery is the limiting factor... you can mount 433 Mhz and you can fly it like 50 km :smile:

[2017-12-07 16:47:36] lolo780 : I want to see a 50km spark

[2017-12-07 16:47:50] marlasr : no way, battery cannot give that much energy :d

[2017-12-07 16:48:24] marlasr : that's why i say battery is limit, not C&C

[2017-12-07 16:49:05] marlasr : 5 km will be also very edgy battery wise, not signal wise

[2017-12-07 16:49:09] lolo780 : I'll start with a 50km Mavic. Managed a flight over 45min last night with my long range mavic

[2017-12-07 16:49:29] marlasr : and pushing selfie drone 5 km, i mean, only for fun, but it's not designed for that :smile: it's designed to fly around you :smile:

[2017-12-07 16:49:59] lolo780 : 38.1km total distance with slow flying at the start and finish.

[2017-12-07 16:50:09] marlasr : with extra batteries....

[2017-12-07 16:50:19] lolo780 : 8ah of extra

[2017-12-07 16:50:25] marlasr : problem is also with spark it has crappy weight/thrust ratio

[2017-12-07 16:50:35] marlasr : it's 1.9 while all other drones have it at around 2.5

[2017-12-07 16:50:53] lolo780 : Hm. Needs upgrades

[2017-12-07 16:51:55] marlasr : naaah... simply use it for designed purpose and you are fine :smile:

[2017-12-09 12:00:10] kyokushin : what is the best way to use P3 Standard? I mean to avoid DJI spying, nfz updating etc. ?

[2017-12-09 20:13:04] marlasr : <http://www.lothardens.com/puppies.html> finally got time for photo session

[2017-12-09 20:15:49] marlasr : There is one girl with heart marking on her head... Getting gazillion inquries for her but i suspect she might be the keeper :)

[2017-12-09 23:00:31] ensjesse : My scariest flight ever. Made it back to the cliff after fighting the wind with about 3 percent

[2017-12-10 10:40:22] haloweenhamster : I think I got away with a fuckup, went to do a quick roof inspection normally GPS lock is within a couple of seconds Took off without GPS, went up about 5m Started drifting backwards & didn't notice straight away Flew into a tree, sounded bad with all the cracks Mavic went on its side falling through some branches but it managed to recover and hover about half a meter from the ground flew it back and the only signs of damage was a couple of small notches in the props Had to reset it due to an esc error which cleared & flies fine still

[2017-12-10 17:54:35] marlasr : <https://youtu.be/JECqox59ZZI>

[2017-12-10 17:54:39] marlasr : could not fly here :disappointed:

[2017-12-10 17:54:55] marlasr : too close to airport, was too windy and 110kV electricity lines

[2017-12-10 17:55:16] marlasr : compass and imu went wild so I ended up with timelapse from my action cam :smile:

[2017-12-10 17:55:26] marlasr : feel free to like subscribe and all that jazz, tnx :smile:

[2017-12-11 18:59:30] nocommie : Is anyone successfully running Kismet with the settings to view the aeroscope info? I just pulled out a linux laptop to try to get this working.

[2017-12-11 21:25:03] jezzab : Was going to give it a quick go today. Mavic on .0100 atm so I should be able to see something

[2017-12-11 21:41:45] haloweenhamster : @jezzab was wondering if you had any vertical stability issues whilst on 0100? One of mine seems to go up & down 2 - 3 ft whilst hovering, the other seems stable though, exactly the same fw & parameters on both

[2017-12-11 21:42:01] jezzab : Never flown on it lmao

[2017-12-11 21:42:44] jezzab : The Mav has just been sitting on the bench. Prodded and poked at. Been playing with the Spark

[2017-12-11 21:43:04] jezzab : Weird it not holding stable?

[2017-12-11 21:44:04] haloweenhamster : Last time I flew it I checked & had 19 sats so not a GPS thing

[2017-12-12 00:23:11] lolo780 : @jezzab did my first flight with the spark this morning. Impressive. Interesting how ATTI mode bypasses the parameter limits.

[2017-12-12 00:23:54] lolo780 : @haloweenhamster one of mine does that as well.

[2017-12-12 01:04:33] nocommie : Cool. let me know how it goes.

[2017-12-12 01:08:46] irischnpak : Today I made a Raspberry Pi image for displaying DJI Go livestreams. I made this to have second video display. If you are interested, you can download the image from: <http://www.share-online.biz/dl/XLEGPT0PBBQ>

[2017-12-12 01:36:24] ensjesse : So complete OS image? Do you need a quad core PI? I assume so. Thank you!

[2017-12-12 01:38:03] ensjesse : When flying my P4P I have been turning off OA these days because it just fucks up control for me when things go wrong.

[2017-12-12 01:39:28] ensjesse : Sure its nice to have but it will stop and avoid free space and I am like wtf? Cant move any direction but up and so I am thinking I will just avoid it all together

[2017-12-12 10:46:25] irischnpak : Yes, complete, self-enlarging OS image. I made and tested this on a Raspi 2; don't know if it require a quad core - probably not as it does not use much system resources.

[2017-12-13 12:57:23] irischnpak : Is there any known method for factory-resetting DJI Goggles? Flash a system.bin with DUML?

[2017-12-13 12:57:57] jezzab : Yeah or just Refresh with Assistant 2

[2017-12-13 12:59:50] jezzab : What are u aiming for?

[2017-12-13 13:02:18] kilrah : there’s a reset in the menu, but there isn’t really anything else to reset…

[2017-12-13 13:03:52] irischnpak : I want to get it into the same state it was delivered to me

[2017-12-13 13:05:27] irischnpak : The "Reset" in the menu only resets things like brightness, volume etc. It does not unlink the goggles

[2017-12-13 13:12:30] irischnpak : I want to do a factory-reset - to have them in the same software-state like when they were delivered to me.

[2017-12-13 13:25:53] jezzab : See the easy thing is to say something like 'I'm selling my Goggles, how can I put them back like new' or 'I've been naughty, I'm sending them back to DJI for blah blsh' or 'I have an issue' Then we can give you the right solution.

[2017-12-13 13:26:14] jezzab : But hey. Keep the mystery alive. You will nut it out. Good luck

[2017-12-13 14:15:17] irischnpak : I want to do a factory-reset - to have them in the same software-state like when they were delivered to me. Either to sell them or if not return them for a refund.

[2017-12-13 14:22:56] irischnpak : Or the other way around - will they present me with setup-dialogue and be unlinked from my mavic if I flash a system.bin to them? Or will I have to root them and do some console-work?

[2017-12-13 21:26:46] kilrah : There is no user procedure to restore them to new state. Flashing won't do anything.

[2017-12-13 21:27:18] kilrah : you can however deactivate with dji assistant debug mode, look it up.

[2017-12-13 21:29:03] czokie : <https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alauda/alauda-airspeeder-worlds-first-flying-car-race>

[2017-12-13 21:31:45] kilrah : lolz

[2017-12-13 21:49:46] czokie : Yeah. I had a laugh

[2017-12-13 21:50:41] czokie : Since the aircraft are supposedly identical - your only way to go faster is to tilt more - until you lose lift… and then ouch.

[2017-12-13 21:51:13] czokie : Speed racing for drones is fun - but with people? Not sure it makes sense.

[2017-12-13 21:54:06] kilrah : yup...

[2017-12-13 21:54:21] kilrah : better lose weight too

[2017-12-13 22:43:37] david : I **used** to hang-glide...

[2017-12-13 23:15:02] czokie : The world needs more jockeys!

[2017-12-14 01:10:47] ensjesse : Anyone here running an AMD Ryzen? How do you like it?

[2017-12-14 02:33:21] irischnpak : Thanks! I'll try poking it with DJI Assistant debug mode.

[2017-12-14 21:52:30] techmasterjoe : thread ripper here is faster then a 8700k in a multi-threaded program but in most lite programs are single threaded and the 8700k walks all over it oc the i7 a bit and the gap get massive a 8700k oc to 5ghz is almost on par with the ripper in multi-threaded. apps

[2017-12-14 22:10:12] techmasterjoe : i got my 8700k stable at 5.2ghz with 64GB's of DDR4. it's rock solid the ripper is every bit as stable But runs hot and uses a lot more power at the wall. both systems have 64GB of ddr4 and dual 1080 ti 's idle power at the wall the amd platform idle draw was 118watts more and peek power from the wall 878watts i7 oc to 5.2ghz / 990watts amd stock clocks same GPU's

[2017-12-14 22:11:58] kilrah : nice...

[2017-12-14 22:20:20] czokie : What happened to <http://www.mydji.info/> ???

[2017-12-14 22:34:17] irischnpak : Error 404 as well from good 'ol Europe

[2017-12-14 22:50:54] nocommie : same here in the US. Thats dannys site isn't it ? (From the FB group)

[2017-12-14 23:20:40] czokie : Yuppers

[2017-12-15 01:29:19] haloweenhamster : never mind

[2017-12-15 02:08:58] ensjesse : @techmasterjoe Thank you!

[2017-12-16 22:13:01] czokie : <https://petapixel.com/2017/12/16/mans-photo-shows-dji-drone-near-plane-landing-lax/>

[2017-12-16 22:13:38] czokie : Sigh. I wish it was video and not a still so it could be verified - but right now, there are multiple white blips on those stills - so I am not convinced

[2017-12-19 03:12:56] irischnpak : Hmm. Seems to be this amplifier: <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DJI-Phantom-Drone-UAV-signal-extender-4W-Wifi-Wireless-Broadband-Amplifier-Router-2-4Ghz-Power-Range/32677520443.html>

[2017-12-19 04:32:37] nocommie : yep, looks like it

[2017-12-19 06:15:04] mathieu.peyrega : @nocommie: the amplifier specs states that input should be lower than 100mw (20dB), are you forcing the remote in CE mode to make amplifier happy ? If you go the FCC, you'll be over that and the amp will probably saturate/add a lot of distorsion to the signal ?

[2017-12-19 13:23:29] nocommie : Thats a good point. I will run some tests and see what it looks like on a spectrum analyzer.

[2017-12-19 14:37:08] marlasr : hi all, here's my promised video of location where "real life" The Wall from GoT lives :smile:

[2017-12-19 14:37:09] marlasr : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cggTye4n17g>

[2017-12-20 00:53:53] czokie : Huh? Wont ship to USA? FINALLY - you guys know how it feels :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-12-20 01:54:48] hotelzululima : heh heh easy enough to ship to son in EU

[2017-12-20 01:56:34] hotelzululima : and its FCC bullshit.. suspect if I recontact with my FCC license it WONT be an issue as its LEGAL for moi as a licensed ham to import

[2017-12-21 08:54:01] jezzab : V1.12-2 works fine @irischnpak

[2017-12-21 08:55:41] jezzab : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkpfC56u_ak>

[2017-12-21 09:04:46] jezzab : You watched the video?

[2017-12-21 09:05:10] jezzab : So you change the `debug=1` BEFORE you selected your aircraft? Not after you were in there

[2017-12-21 09:06:14] jezzab : 1:22sec on the videa

[2017-12-21 09:08:16] irischnpak : Yes, shure. Works for my Mavic, but not for my Goggles...

[2017-12-21 09:08:48] irischnpak : Btw, is there a "developer" menu for the Goggles in the Assistant?

[2017-12-21 09:21:14] kilrah : no, read what you were answered on the channel. You may need factory = true too.

[2017-12-21 11:53:03] irischnpak : Aircraft? Goggles...

[2017-12-21 11:53:41] czokie : Got an award @ work that included some gift vouchers... Used them to get an Osmo Mobile ... Charging now ...

[2017-12-21 13:30:58] opcode : <https://vimeo.com/240910267>

[2017-12-21 13:31:03] opcode : beautiful

[2017-12-21 13:49:36] d95gas : That is stunning quality..... amazing

[2017-12-21 20:03:53] irischnpak : But I don't see any extra menue in DJI Assistant when I connect my goggles. Editing parameters on my Mavic works fine... Is there, btw any parameter menue for the goggles in debug mode?

[2017-12-21 20:19:39] irischnpak : ooohhhh! aaahhhh! Thanks a million. Videos? Haven't found any. YT?

[2017-12-21 20:33:30] irischnpak : I tried to root, but did not find a way to execute the symlink. So removing the obvious evidence will be easy.

[2017-12-21 20:47:15] czokie : Hmm. My next DJI product (osmo mobile) has been less than impressive... <https://forum.dji.com/thread-78884-1-1.html>

[2017-12-21 20:47:20] czokie : Defective right out of the box

[2017-12-21 22:37:21] dji-rev-slack : I hate DJI’s return policy. That’s why i always order from third party vendors.

[2017-12-21 23:14:05] czokie : Just spoke to their support online. They told me to take it back to the retailer... who i a local in country equivalent of "best buy"

[2017-12-23 17:43:46] irischnpak : I prefer to build my own...

[2017-12-25 02:15:18] khalidy82 : Any1 on here part of the nld mod client??

[2017-12-25 02:15:37] khalidy82 : Why is ur website not working

[2017-12-25 02:20:11] czokie : He is here but probably with family today :)

[2017-12-25 02:22:51] khalidy82 : Yeah i get that but i needed pics of the family but i live in a nfz fukin zone fukin fuck dji pricks.

[2017-12-25 02:23:07] khalidy82 : Sorry for ranting im frustrated

[2017-12-25 02:23:25] khalidy82 : Bin 5 days and still wont fly in my yard

[2017-12-25 02:24:57] khalidy82 : I flashed 106 firmware.... but still not working with litchie and or old dji go ap.... so tryna flash the other two but website not responding last 48 hours

[2017-12-25 02:25:12] khalidy82 : Just tryna hav a good christmas is all

[2017-12-25 02:26:29] khalidy82 : Money is not a problem i msgd copersafe originaly but they said they not offering services at the moment

[2017-12-25 02:26:55] khalidy82 : Just wana fly in my back yard and im the kinda guy that never gives up hope

[2017-12-25 02:28:37] khalidy82 : Can some guy help..... and im an electricain ill hook your house up new electrics new alarm latest cctv anyyyyything house mods .... just need a bird to fly

[2017-12-25 02:35:22] khalidy82 : Niggaz nld just a scam basterd

[2017-12-25 02:36:00] khalidy82 : Used the ogs name an took the poiss out of the people

[2017-12-25 02:37:45] czokie : Kk. The owner of nld is an og. Suggest you learn a bit more before mouthing off. The site works fine for me

[2017-12-25 02:44:07] khalidy82 : Mate i get you but seriousley no bullshit 5 days in a row...

[2017-12-25 02:44:39] khalidy82 : I flashed the 106 but ok it doesnt have nfz yet in controller i can disable

[2017-12-25 02:45:06] khalidy82 : So ever since all ive tryd to do is flash 502

[2017-12-25 02:45:40] khalidy82 : Ive not ran my mouth and its not like me and i didnt want to but tonight ive had a drink

[2017-12-25 02:45:55] khalidy82 : And i just want my bird to fly fly fly

[2017-12-25 02:47:54] khalidy82 : Thats all brother

[2017-12-25 02:48:48] khalidy82 : I get and i appreciate man id take the og team out an party on me enuff love but this shits taken over my life

[2017-12-25 02:49:30] khalidy82 : All i want is nfz unlock fuck all other parameters just nfz

[2017-12-25 05:58:42] ben_lin : lol

[2017-12-25 16:44:15] marlasr : I like this choice of cognac :)

[2017-12-26 02:09:24] jezzab : <https://i.imgur.com/k5BzLHu.jpg>

[2017-12-26 03:35:41] jcarlo : There are other ways other than NLD.

[2017-12-26 04:11:49] vo : <https://medium.com/bread-and-circuses/how-i-got-paid-0-from-the-uber-security-bug-bounty-aa9646aa103f>

[2017-12-26 21:36:33] haloweenhamster : <https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheSparkSide/permalink/174205079844407/>

[2017-12-27 20:31:09] hello : Wonder if anyone has encountered this issue before - trying to get open tx companion to see the XD9+ (on windows 10) I get connected chimes, but then disconnect chimes as I click backup. Does the controller need drivers for windows 10? Its in the bootloader mode before I plug in the USB...but can't even see it as mass storage in explorer.

[2017-12-27 20:39:22] kilrah : typical of poor usb cable

[2017-12-27 20:39:28] kilrah : try another one or 2

[2017-12-27 20:39:41] kilrah : no driver needed for mass storage in bootloader mode

[2017-12-27 20:39:48] kilrah : it's the built in system one

[2017-12-27 20:40:10] kilrah : some people DO mess stuff up though and overwrite it when they have no reason to...

[2017-12-27 20:45:02] hello : Cool thanks for the tip @kilrah I'll dig out another cable and see if that gets it seen by open tx. Or perhaps try on another machine. Ideally just wanted to back up model profiles to start with, and flash more recent firmwares.

[2017-12-27 20:47:32] kilrah : when you connect in bootloader mode you should see 2 new disk drive, that's independent from companion

[2017-12-27 20:47:43] kilrah : if t's ok then you're good to go

[2017-12-27 23:21:27] coldflake : What exactly is the problem?

[2017-12-27 23:22:19] jezzab : I dont think he will be replying... his account is deactivated by the looks

[2017-12-27 23:22:35] coldflake : lol

[2017-12-27 23:23:08] czokie : I was tempted to de-activate - dont know who did it … but not a bad call :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-12-27 23:24:09] jezzab : Wasn't me. I was close.... really close.

[2017-12-27 23:26:39] coldflake : Wondering what he wrote to [support@nolimitdronez.com](mailto:support@nolimitdronez.com)?

[2017-12-27 23:27:22] coldflake : I think I "know" him from support

[2017-12-27 23:27:30] david : Awwwwww, Niggaz.... :grin: :grin: :grin:

[2017-12-27 23:27:38] coldflake : lol

[2017-12-27 23:28:32] coldflake : I have been spending Christmas with my kids for like 2 days and people go crazy and call it a scam omg lol

[2017-12-27 23:28:53] czokie : To be honest - I think the guy was drunk

[2017-12-27 23:29:02] czokie : Either that, or a DJI plant trying to stir the pot

[2017-12-27 23:29:04] czokie : (or both)

[2017-12-27 23:29:11] coldflake : lol probably

[2017-12-27 23:29:21] jezzab : Oh he was. I just did a big file cull on slack

[2017-12-27 23:29:32] jezzab : So I probably deleted his picture of the bottle he posted up

[2017-12-27 23:29:42] czokie : ya

[2017-12-27 23:29:52] david : Seriously, good thing he couldn't fly

[2017-12-27 23:31:26] coldflake : Once after coming home drunk as fuck I decided to take the P4 for a spin. Fell asleep shortly after take off and luckily the rth worked as expected lol

[2017-12-27 23:31:40] jezzab : LOL

[2017-12-27 23:31:59] jezzab : Teach you to follow your mates home from the pub with it from the couch lol

[2017-12-27 23:32:56] jezzab : If I recall the conversation ended with "man I woke up and it was in the front yard"

[2017-12-27 23:33:24] coldflake : Yes exactly

[2017-12-27 23:33:58] coldflake : Initial thought after waking up: This is strange :)

[2017-12-27 23:34:38] jezzab : lmao

[2017-12-27 23:41:23] zapf : does the nolimitdronez guy frequent here? I'm having trouble with my key I got a while back

[2017-12-28 00:54:42] czokie : Its not me - but what is your problem? Have you tried the support stuff on the website? :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-12-28 00:55:38] czokie : Can you post the error message here?

[2017-12-28 01:01:03] zapf : I sent a support message through the site a few days ago. I wanted to use it on another machine (and with my new mavic) but its not seeing the key as valid anymore

[2017-12-28 01:01:25] zapf : I'm not near that pc right now, I'll have to head home and doublecheck

[2017-12-28 01:01:29] czokie : The key is valid for one aircraft

[2017-12-28 01:01:34] zapf : oh, alright

[2017-12-28 01:01:49] czokie : You can use it on an existing machine with previously linked aircraft - but new aircraft - new key

[2017-12-28 01:02:02] czokie : And no - I am not the guy :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-12-28 01:09:21] david : @aussies, wife and I just discovered Glitch on Netflix... interesting concept... are there more than 2 seasons?

[2017-12-28 01:12:04] czokie : two seasons for what?

[2017-12-28 01:12:20] czokie : ah. title called Glitch? Not heard of it

[2017-12-28 01:24:11] arrvodesign : for now yeah … <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4192782/>

[2017-12-28 01:25:44] arrvodesign : I discovered a bit more fun show the other day … <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2017109/>

[2017-12-28 09:59:26] tommiboost : @coldflake will nld be offering a mix and match firmware service?

[2017-12-28 10:52:01] ben_lin : you can do that on ur own easily

[2017-12-28 10:56:37] coldflake : @tommiboost yes, as a matter of fact nld will implement it in sublime way

[2017-12-28 10:56:52] coldflake : It will not use firmwares with deleted modules

[2017-12-28 10:57:12] coldflake : It will add the mods straight to the current firmware in one go

[2017-12-28 10:57:29] ben_lin : hmmm, interesting

[2017-12-28 10:57:37] ben_lin : convenient

[2017-12-28 10:57:40] coldflake : In fact it will be able to do it with firmwares not even released yet

[2017-12-28 10:57:53] ben_lin : rofl how

[2017-12-28 10:58:18] coldflake : Because it does it tricks on the fly

[2017-12-28 10:58:36] ben_lin : If so then there is no need to downgrade 1.04.0100on mavic

[2017-12-28 10:59:13] coldflake : Yes, you will still have to downgrade to 700 first

[2017-12-28 10:59:28] czokie : You dont have to care - just press the "Mod my bird" button, and it does the magic? :slightly_smiling_face:

[2017-12-28 10:59:34] coldflake : But you can then use a stock firmware to so the upgrade afterwards

[2017-12-28 11:00:00] coldflake : @czokie spot on :)

[2017-12-28 11:00:36] ben_lin : :( DJI put my mavic to 0100

[2017-12-28 11:01:02] ben_lin : good luck on cracking 1.04.0100

[2017-12-28 12:08:28] tommiboost : @coldflake so am i right in thinking you stay on .700 with all the benefits of the latest firmware?

[2017-12-28 18:07:51] nocommie : Now this is funny! Getting Rickrolled in your own home! <https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/27/16822816/sonos-bose-speakers-hijacked-play-ghostly-sounds>

[2017-12-29 02:50:50] andrwho25 : Nice

[2017-12-29 19:49:01] czokie : Unusual topic: I have a TimeMachine backup on a TimeCapsule (apple). Long time ago, I started trying to do a rm -rf on it… realised that was a bad idea (too many files in directories). Aborted, and never got around to re-trying. Unrelated. Apple changed “shared desktop” stuff which broke stuff for me ages ago - and I lost a whole heap of stuff from my iTunes account (music I’d imported from CD’s). I was pissed. Chances are the m4a files are in the partially deleted backup. I have a data recovery program… but running it over network is painful. So. Rooted the time capsule… connected an 8TB drive via USB. Overnight, it only copied 400 meg out of a 3TB backup file. Might have been easier to copy it via ethernet…

[2017-12-29 21:55:31] david : Ouch

[2017-12-29 21:58:43] marlasr : all you need is time :smile:

[2017-12-29 21:59:00] marlasr : it will eventually finish in a 2 weeks or so :smile:

[2017-12-29 22:12:06] kilrah : wow damn slow

[2017-12-29 22:12:20] kilrah : USB1.1 on the thing? :smile:

[2017-12-30 03:17:00] dji-rev-slack : Whenever I walk into a business with an Echo blasting music, I throw out a line, "Alexa, remind me to give everybody a raise tomorrow morning."

[2017-12-30 10:59:02] coldflake : Yes correct

[2018-01-01 01:35:14] jezzab : "Battery Cell is Broken" - Charged 17 times. Nice. That really made my day

[2018-01-02 14:39:28] arrvodesign : Does anyone <!here> uses TrueCrypt or VeraCrypt to create secure volumes? Or any other ways / suggestions to secure your personal files on the cloud?

[2018-01-02 14:40:27] ben_lin : how is it secure when its in the cloud

[2018-01-02 14:40:46] ben_lin : oh i see

[2018-01-02 14:40:51] arrvodesign : if it is in the volume secured by the app above ^

[2018-01-02 14:40:52] ben_lin : nvm, I am stupid

[2018-01-02 14:41:21] jezzab : I do

[2018-01-02 14:41:33] jezzab : True Crypt

[2018-01-02 14:41:48] jezzab : But thr last version is concerning

[2018-01-02 14:42:10] arrvodesign : I’ve heard TrueCrypt got few vulnerabilities after audit …

[2018-01-02 14:42:24] arrvodesign : @jezzab which version would you prefer?

[2018-01-02 14:42:28] haloweenhamster : Anyone know a master key for bitlocker?

[2018-01-02 14:42:29] jezzab : It's hard to sift thru

[2018-01-02 14:43:02] jezzab : Coz you read these guy came out of no where. Then audit and all said it was pretty great

[2018-01-02 14:43:11] jezzab : Then poof, gone

[2018-01-02 14:43:28] jezzab : And the message. This is not secure

[2018-01-02 14:43:55] jezzab : So was it they were payed off, added back doors or threatened

[2018-01-02 14:44:20] jezzab : I've wondered this for a long time

[2018-01-02 14:44:39] jezzab : Or all of the above

[2018-01-02 14:47:50] arrvodesign : TrueCrypt 7.1a and VeraCrypt 1.14 had these issues CVE-2015-7358 and CVE-2015-7359 but it got fixed in VeraCrypt 1.19 … so that’s why I am wondering as well …

[2018-01-02 14:48:03] arrvodesign : as the TrueCrypt officially stopped

[2018-01-02 14:48:10] jezzab : Yeah

[2018-01-02 14:48:57] jezzab : Problem is if its not continuing and source out there, the vuln won't be fixed

[2018-01-02 14:50:06] arrvodesign : which version of TrueCrypt are you using?

[2018-01-02 14:50:33] jezzab : 7.1 I think

[2018-01-02 14:51:52] jezzab : Or 7.1a

[2018-01-02 14:51:58] jezzab : The last one

[2018-01-02 14:59:48] nocommie : For anyone interested, here is some info I got from the developer of Kismet about DroneID/Aeroscope.

[2018-01-02 14:59:50] nocommie : DroneID frames are only sent from DJI July firmware and newer, and as of their newest firmware and DJI Go app, only when enabled in the app (previously it was silently enabled on all devices). They are only sent in Wi-Fi mode, they appear to not be sent when using the RC (or if they are, they're a modified format I don't know yet), and they're only sent when the props are on and the drone is in the air, if I recall. You'll need to be outside and have the drone in the air.

[2018-01-02 15:00:31] nocommie : I find it strange that is is likely only working when in wifi mode and that in later FW it is disabled by default.

[2018-01-02 15:00:39] arrvodesign : thanks … I guess I need to read about it a bit. I am thinking to create few volumes with sensitive data … also if anyone interested in hardware, I recommend Intel SSD X25-E Series 64GB (SSDSA2SH064G1GC) which is SLC (Single-Level Cell) , they go for 35 USD+. The reason is, you can write 2PB (Petabytes) data on these and they survive … another good one is MLC based Intel 400 - 800GB DC S3700 SSD (SSDSC2BA800G3) or DC S3710, those go for 200 - 300 USD and withhold 8.3PB - 16.9PB of writes respectively. What I mean good quality storage ))

[2018-01-02 15:18:25] jezzab : Kinda upgraded my home server the other day. Old Dell R620 with a couple of E5-2670s and managed to grab 32gb out of my old SunFire. So 64gb. God it's quiet. I modded all the fan modules with resistors in the old SunFire to be quiet but this is insanely quiet stock. Very happy

[2018-01-02 15:53:39] haloweenhamster : My old 1u server was well loud

[2018-01-02 16:14:43] stiltzkin : I find this hard to believe since in the demo shown on Next Level they clearly are using Aeroscope to track a drone that is well outside WiFi range

[2018-01-02 16:16:52] kilrah : I use bitlocker on my drives and backups, and nothing on the cloud (only use dropbox to send files to people, nothing important)

[2018-01-02 16:17:33] kilrah : for stuff i want autosynced between devices like phone camera photos i use syncthing

[2018-01-02 16:17:54] kilrah : for stuff i want manually synced i use freefilesync

[2018-01-02 16:21:19] nocommie : Yeah but DJI faked some of the stuff in the demo (how it discovered and displayed the email address etc) so who knows what was real and what was not.

[2018-01-02 16:23:55] haloweenhamster : Any way around bitlocker?

[2018-01-02 16:26:05] haloweenhamster : No IT at work today and been asked to run a win repair on a PC but requires a 32 digit code (I think that's the length anyway) to boot CD or safe mode

[2018-01-02 16:26:59] kilrah : it's supposed to be pretty safe, never looked at whether there were exploits

[2018-01-02 16:27:23] stiltzkin : How do we know they faked stuff? I must have missed something

[2018-01-02 16:28:02] haloweenhamster : No worries I'll leave it until Monday, was asked if I could fix it, gave up after 10 minutes

[2018-01-02 16:28:08] kilrah : :smile:

[2018-01-02 16:28:37] haloweenhamster : Probably why Siemens use it

[2018-01-02 16:28:57] kilrah : yup either IT has the recovery key, a usb drive with the key, or they just wipe/reimage when something goes wrong that way

[2018-01-02 16:38:50] arrvodesign : I forgot my password – is there any way (‘backdoor’) to recover the files from my VeraCrypt volume? We have not implemented any ‘backdoor’ in VeraCrypt (and will never implement any even if asked to do so by a government agency), because it would defeat the purpose of the software. VeraCrypt does not allow decryption of data without knowing the correct password or key. We cannot recover your data because we do not know and cannot determine the password you chose or the key you generated using VeraCrypt. The only way to recover your files is to try to “crack” the password or the key, but it could take thousands or millions of years (depending on the length and quality of the password or keyfiles, on the software/hardware performance, algorithms, and other factors). Back in 2010, there was news about the FBI failing to decrypt a TrueCrypt volume after a year of trying. While we can’t verify if this is true or just a “psy-op” stunt, in VeraCrypt we have increased the security of the key derivation to a level where any brute-force of the password is virtually impossible, provided that all security requirements are respected.

[2018-01-02 17:12:51] nocommie : They showed email addresses linked to the crafts they detected. It was explained that they manually put the DB of those 2 craft in the system for the demo.

[2018-01-02 17:49:47] zapf : Got a slack question: I’m trying to admin a slack workspace for our makerspace. I’ve deleted every upload beyond 30 days and we are still 400 MB over the limit. Is there any way to see who is using up all our storage? I assume these are all in private DMs I’m not part of.

[2018-01-02 18:12:44] wesleymiller : I love my unraid box, was a bit of a PITA to setup but 16C32T 128GB Ram, 10x4TB

[2018-01-02 18:16:51] wesleymiller : built it to combine gaming computers into one, it'll run 3 1080TI at 4K res any game. Inspired by: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKJw8IKVYQ8>

[2018-01-02 20:59:21] sfshootme : Truecrypt here! :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-01-02 21:22:57] w4t3r : Seriously? There are such drives? Then I can go home with my 750 evo with a guarantee of 100TBW lol

[2018-01-02 23:02:25] kilrah : @zapf the size only gets recounted once a day. So you're probably fine, but it won't update the count before tomorrow or so.

[2018-01-03 00:18:47] zapf : Ah

[2018-01-03 00:37:47] arrvodesign : Besides TLC cells are the ones to avoid …

[2018-01-03 00:38:24] w4t3r : Ok

[2018-01-03 00:38:34] w4t3r : well that's crazy, didn't know that

[2018-01-03 00:38:39] w4t3r : but what's the drawback?

[2018-01-03 00:38:44] w4t3r : speed?

[2018-01-03 00:39:42] w4t3r : uh, then price?

[2018-01-03 00:39:44] arrvodesign : Slightly less but you spend money less often this way )))

[2018-01-03 00:42:47] arrvodesign : These days on eBay you can win auction of S3700 400GB for $250 or less. You won’t get new but it’s not important, better to ask seller about total Writes on the drive before purchase. Also, I’ve got 800GB for $280 few months back and it was new 0 writes but what they call it new pull. These drives they install in the server and not using, then taking them off and selling them.

[2018-01-03 00:44:07] w4t3r : okay, thanks for the clarification. I'll get those beasts next time I buy flash

[2018-01-04 00:23:03] arrvodesign : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l8JTX6o-NI>

[2018-01-04 16:28:57] mefisto : Hm, interesting - someone is trying to sell Ph4 and Spark hacks on a polish equivalent of ebay: <http://allegro.pl/odblokowanie-dji-phantom-4-pro-nfz-zasieg-fcc-i7116659514.html>

[2018-01-04 16:29:17] opcode : lol

[2018-01-04 16:35:30] opcode : 120 Euro for unlocking P4P. Looks like it depends on old FW.

[2018-01-04 16:46:36] mefisto : Yup. The auction states "only new on not upgraded drones".

[2018-01-04 16:48:38] mefisto : The description is quite extensive. I'm curious how many clients will they have. They probably did it to probe the market, too.

[2018-01-04 17:08:49] mostriciattola87 : Hi guys, completly new and noob here and I got my MPP right now..so I was wondering what mistake I don't want to do while setting it up for my first flight? I read a lot about updating and I got really confused lol, this is my first drone. I am pretty sure I would like to hack my MP in the near future because privacy rules of dji and because I also would like to own all the feature i buyed..even if I maybe don't use it

[2018-01-04 17:19:26] nocommie : I responded in the spoon-feeding thread where you posted the same thing. Generally, spamming in multiple threads will get your questions ignored.

[2018-01-04 17:37:46] opcode : @mefisto is this legal in poland? in my country its surely not.

[2018-01-04 17:51:21] mefisto : Well, there are several aspects: - reverse engineering is in some cases acceptable; the law says it is ok to "figure out design elements of a software in order to make it compatible with other software or hardware" - selling modifications to a product, or repairs of a product - in polish law it is treated as creating a derivate product, so all the responsibilities fall from Dji to the modder - in case the product will cause a death, the modder is to blame - companies can still file lawsuits against modders who try to earn money this way, I don't know who usually wins in such case

[2018-01-04 17:55:43] opcode : interesting. thanks for the info.

[2018-01-04 22:33:56] marlasr : hi all, quick question...

[2018-01-04 22:34:11] marlasr : what's spart default speed in sport mode when on full forward?

[2018-01-04 22:34:28] marlasr : i kind of recall it should be like 31mph or like 50kph

[2018-01-04 22:34:58] marlasr : however, today i was able to push mine only to 30kph.... wtf?! 0 wind :smile:

[2018-01-04 22:35:09] marlasr : spark*

[2018-01-05 03:05:13] djislack : Which product?

[2018-01-05 03:06:55] djislack : "31 mph (50 kph) in Sport Mode without wind"

[2018-01-05 03:07:24] djislack : I have read that some people will post the same question and then go out and try it again and it will work correctly.

[2018-01-05 03:07:37] djislack : Maybe Sport mode is buggy?

[2018-01-05 03:07:55] djislack : Or maybe there was more wind up high and the little spark was cautious

[2018-01-05 05:06:06] arrvodesign : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC5ca6Hsb2Q>

[2018-01-05 06:33:18] arrvodesign : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM7MFYoylVs>

[2018-01-05 09:27:25] tom.vicher : How do you land your Sparks? I usually fly to me, than catch spark to hand and tilt it to side. It turns off motors when tilt is around 90 degree. Do you think its not bad to di this for drone?

[2018-01-05 09:35:33] kilrah : just hold throttle stick down. Kinda less dangerous than flipping over, but that works too.

[2018-01-07 05:20:48] jezzab : nooo

[2018-01-07 05:20:53] jezzab : 3D = DDD

[2018-01-07 05:20:55] jezzab : big Ds lol

[2018-01-07 05:30:22] jcarlo : Lol. You're right

[2018-01-07 05:33:13] jezzab : 2.7k = <<

[2018-01-07 05:33:23] jezzab : hmm is < a .7 of a k lol

[2018-01-07 05:33:44] jezzab : since its missing the |

[2018-01-07 05:36:24] jezzab : Anyone here mine Verium?

[2018-01-07 07:23:06] andrwho25 : Back in 2014 I left my PC on at work over the holidays and mined about $450 dogecoin. I since left the company, and ever since leaving, I gambled it via dogedice up to $500, and then forgot about it - secured erased it. Little did I know, today it’s worth over $20k+

[2018-01-07 07:26:41] haloweenhamster : <https://i1.wp.com/1stminingrig.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/verium-cpu-mining-rig-hardware.jpg>

[2018-01-07 07:27:17] haloweenhamster : Don't think the wife will let me have one

[2018-01-07 07:28:13] jezzab : lol

[2018-01-07 07:33:01] mathieu.peyrega : I set up a smaller one to learn using ht-condor stuff :slightly_smiling_face: (5 units)

[2018-01-07 07:33:52] haloweenhamster : Tbh this is the first I've heard of mining currency, is it just renting out processor cores?

[2018-01-07 07:34:10] jezzab : you use your own PC/s

[2018-01-07 07:34:13] jezzab : BUT lol

[2018-01-07 07:34:33] jezzab : I got a free $398 USD credit on Google VM. Its done me nicely lol

[2018-01-07 07:34:39] jezzab : Just cant crank it toooo high

[2018-01-07 07:34:44] jezzab : Bit of fun

[2018-01-07 07:35:35] jezzab : Scored about $150 USD (its crypto so its that today and nothing tomorrow and double the next lol)

[2018-01-07 07:35:48] jezzab : but Ill get a bit more and play swapping and changing. Cost me nothing

[2018-01-07 07:36:25] haloweenhamster : But what is mining actually doing?

[2018-01-07 07:36:39] jezzab : Your basically doing all of the "banks" trasactions

[2018-01-07 07:36:49] jezzab : but testing blocks of data etc

[2018-01-07 07:37:24] jezzab : <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining>

[2018-01-07 07:37:30] jezzab : for bitcoin anyway

[2018-01-07 07:37:34] haloweenhamster : might set something up

[2018-01-07 07:37:40] haloweenhamster : Cheers

[2018-01-07 07:38:10] jezzab : Just burning cycles. Comes down to your power. Some people ive read look at the cost of power and heating costs of their home lol

[2018-01-07 07:38:19] jezzab : and do the sums for mining as the heat generated will heat the home as well

[2018-01-07 07:38:22] jezzab : funny shit

[2018-01-07 07:38:40] jezzab : You can pool mine of most currency too.

[2018-01-07 07:42:10] haloweenhamster : Got an old dell that eats hdd's, might set that up for a few months

[2018-01-07 07:42:40] jezzab : Lots use RISC or GPU. Few like Verium use CPU only (CISC)

[2018-01-07 07:44:17] andrwho25 : jezzab: is it just a docker image that you run to mine on google VM’s :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-01-07 07:45:00] haloweenhamster : As I only have basic laptops these days it sounds the best to try

[2018-01-07 07:45:10] jezzab : The one im using that Verium one is just a Windows app so just run a Win 7 or what ever VM, run the app

[2018-01-07 07:45:41] jezzab : Dont use pool with that though. They are onto it lol killed mine in like 30 mins lol

[2018-01-07 07:45:54] jezzab : even when i cranked the cores WAAAY back

[2018-01-07 07:46:07] andrwho25 : ah, haha. i’ve always wondered, pardon my ignorance, but if i was a miner and with an insane amount of luck, could i mine a bitcoin and get the hash correct within the first try ?

[2018-01-07 07:46:13] jezzab : I just have it set on 6 out of 8 cores and let it sit. No pool just independant

[2018-01-07 07:46:23] jezzab : I guess so

[2018-01-07 07:46:37] jezzab : Then verified by the rest of the network

[2018-01-07 07:47:14] jezzab : Ive not really looked into BTC but its all the same stuff afaik

[2018-01-07 07:47:22] jezzab : same principal

[2018-01-07 07:48:21] haloweenhamster : Do you pay for Google Vm?

[2018-01-07 07:48:26] jezzab : fuck no lol

[2018-01-07 07:48:48] jezzab : like i said I just signed up and got $398 USD credit. Supposed to be 300 i think for anyone

[2018-01-07 07:48:53] jezzab : some reason i got a bit more lol

[2018-01-07 07:48:58] jezzab : Google Compute Engine trial

[2018-01-07 07:49:42] jezzab : Google it

[2018-01-07 07:49:53] jezzab : should get $300 straight up. And it wont "auto renew"

[2018-01-07 07:50:01] haloweenhamster : I'll look into that then cheers

[2018-01-07 07:50:49] jezzab : Mines been running for 20 days and got $9USD credit left

[2018-01-07 07:51:58] jezzab : A mates all over the Azure trials and shit lol

[2018-01-07 07:52:08] jezzab : Think they were good for pool.

[2018-01-07 07:52:32] jezzab : Hes been jumping from one to the other. One banned him and changed him a $1 lol

[2018-01-07 23:11:43] jezzab : Decided to try the Azure trial. Ive got 2 x 2vCPU VMs and 4 x 4vCPU VMs all pool mining lol. So far so good for the last 12hs

[2018-01-08 20:17:45] haloweenhamster : My father has asked for some 18650 batteries, I've seen a few people talk about them here, whats recommended to get & avoid?

[2018-01-08 21:12:54] wesleymiller : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPz_0qBo8-w>

[2018-01-08 21:22:19] wesleymiller : @haloweenhamster ^^

[2018-01-08 22:50:02] jezzab : What are you using them for @haloweenhamster ?

[2018-01-08 22:53:14] jezzab : I you google Mooch battery chart or 18650.that guy Mooch professionally tests them. So if ur looking for a true rating this will give you the info.

[2018-01-08 22:54:41] jezzab : Kinda important if ur using a Mech vape mod as there is no protection and if you calc your resistance on your coil to the ring battery rating... you won’t have a face when it vents

[2018-01-08 22:56:07] jcarlo : Man looks like DJI OSMO Mobile 2 Is a downgrade. Maybe they need to cut cost to sell it around $140

[2018-01-08 22:56:24] czokie : What was the difference?

[2018-01-08 22:56:44] jezzab : The 2?

[2018-01-08 22:57:16] czokie : What are the big changes?

[2018-01-08 22:57:34] czokie : I just got my osmo mobile

[2018-01-08 22:58:12] jezzab : Urs fixed now?

[2018-01-08 22:58:16] czokie : Yep

[2018-01-08 22:58:53] czokie : Perfect now

[2018-01-08 22:59:02] jezzab : Sweet

[2018-01-08 23:01:25] jcarlo : Well they took off the trigger at the back and you just have a mode button. No more screw stuff on the side, got move at the bottom. Almost identical to smooth q

[2018-01-08 23:01:52] jcarlo : They did add zoom slider on the side where the screw used to be

[2018-01-08 23:02:32] czokie : Zoom would be nice… But not feeling the need to change anything else - except built in tripod mount

[2018-01-08 23:03:26] jcarlo : I bought mine used for $40 but they were selling it as broken. I thought it was just a fw. Sent it to DJI. Paid $65 but they sent me a new one :grin:

[2018-01-08 23:04:28] jcarlo : Well with the screw thing at the bottom you can hook it up to any tripod

[2018-01-08 23:05:06] jcarlo : They said it supposed to be lighter. Battery is not removable but stated to be 15hrs

[2018-01-09 00:08:44] haloweenhamster : @jezzab he wants them for his vapor thing & a torch, no idea what the ratings of either are, its not a cloud generator so I'm guessing low powered compared to some

[2018-01-09 00:19:33] jezzab : for sure look at the mooch stuff then

[2018-01-09 00:19:46] jezzab : I use LG HG2 18650 personally for my vape mods

[2018-01-09 00:20:02] jezzab : Sony is good too

[2018-01-09 00:21:24] jezzab : His will be regulated so should be fine with most good ones. Its the mechanical ones, like a couple I have here, that are completely unregulated and no short circuit protection. Basically Battery -> Switch -> coil of wire that glows

[2018-01-09 00:22:04] jezzab : Obviously you wanna be pretty damn sure in ^^ scenario what the constant discharge rating of the battery is when calculating the resistance of your coil

[2018-01-09 00:22:18] jezzab : Regulated they will buck reg it and also stop if overloaded or shorted

[2018-01-09 00:26:49] haloweenhamster : Cheers

[2018-01-09 00:31:14] jezzab : Best one i heard the other day was if you have a 1A USB charger for your mod, if you plug it into a 2.4A USB charger it will blow it up lmao

[2018-01-09 00:31:30] jezzab : "coz the amps are more"

[2018-01-09 00:32:37] jezzab : Went quiet when i cut off a usb cable and wired it up to my 30A bench PSU and set it to 5v and plugged a mod in

[2018-01-09 00:44:35] haloweenhamster : People are scared by current, loved my old 3 phase 55v 55a psu

[2018-01-09 00:45:17] jezzab : Yeah its a concept that can be hard to grasp

[2018-01-09 00:45:22] wesleymiller : i thought you meant for an ebike or something

[2018-01-09 00:46:42] jcarlo : Who has electric kick scooter here

[2018-01-09 00:46:54] wesleymiller : for my vape I use AK3030 batteries. 20700 :wink:

[2018-01-09 00:48:08] wesleymiller : I have some electric scooters jcarlo

[2018-01-09 00:49:17] wesleymiller : <http://www.bigtoysusa.com/evo1600welectricscooter.aspx>

[2018-01-09 00:49:54] wesleymiller : they haul ass

[2018-01-09 00:50:39] wesleymiller : they are sitting in an anechoic chamber I bought from the military base i'm using as a storage shed. I have too much junk.

[2018-01-09 00:54:42] nocommie : There is <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB8fas6zBSE>

[2018-01-09 00:55:26] nocommie : pretty interesting. He didnt test correctly but still his findings were interesting. I want to build a pack for my FPV planks

[2018-01-09 00:56:36] wesleymiller : had an old one that has about 3000 miles on it, the 36v 1000w model and it was awesome, until I got a pair of the new 1600w models. They are 35mph. I haul firewood from the back of my property in a wagon (500lbs or so) using the scooter.

[2018-01-09 00:57:44] wesleymiller : Those Tattu batteries are great. I have some with close to 100 cycles on them on my quads.

[2018-01-09 00:59:12] nocommie : I use the tattus on my race quad. They have incredible power

[2018-01-09 01:03:24] wesleymiller : More recently i've been using the TBS 1300MAH Graphene, their punch just doesn't quit.

[2018-01-09 01:04:34] wesleymiller : I run a small website as a side business to my hobby so I do a lot of prop testing. www.prop.city

[2018-01-09 01:27:14] nocommie : man so much has changed with prop design in the past couple of years. For the race quads I mean

[2018-01-09 08:17:27] wesleymiller : I have 25,000 acres of state park at the rear of my property, only problem is LOS. I guess I need to fly from a treestand 80ft up.

[2018-01-09 08:23:02] dji-rev-slack : "Faro said blockchain data could make information on where drones are flying and who is operating them available to the public worldwide." <https://www.marketwatch.com/story/lily-drone-maker-mota-wants-to-capitalize-on-the-blockchain-craze-2018-01-08>

[2018-01-09 08:26:10] wesleymiller : why stop at drones, just make a centralized ATC and then allow drones to fly higher and faster. If everything is tracked there will be no reason for collision risk. Sadly it wouldn't be used like that probably.

[2018-01-09 13:21:40] haloweenhamster : @jezzab just went to setup verium and cant get on the site <https://portal.vericoin.info/verium/> This site can’t provide a secure connection [portal.vericoin.info](http://portal.vericoin.info) uses an unsupported protocol. ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH HIDE DETAILS Unsupported protocol The client and server don't support a common SSL protocol version or cipher suite.

[2018-01-09 14:10:20] jcarlo : I got one too. I hardly use it just stuck in my trunk for emergencies

[2018-01-09 14:41:11] kilrah : cool, mine gets used almost daily, got 1500km on it in a year

[2018-01-09 17:11:26] dji-rev-slack : They haven’t patched OpenSSL since Heartbeat?

[2018-01-09 20:51:52] czokie : <https://www.suasnews.com/2018/01/bad-karma-gopro-shutter-drone-division-february/>

[2018-01-09 20:52:13] czokie : @hostile. See what you did?

[2018-01-09 21:25:45] jcarlo : Dam it’s like they tried to get up and then boom the rock just gave them the people’s elbow

[2018-01-09 21:34:23] x41x41x90 : They get knocked down…then get up again. Then get knocked down…and don’t get up again

[2018-01-09 21:40:53] jcarlo : Too bad I like the all in one screen/remote

[2018-01-09 21:41:28] jcarlo : I’ll still consider getting one when I see a great deal

[2018-01-09 22:05:26] czokie : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k45C7BGXsCI>

[2018-01-09 22:05:34] czokie : DJI Tello?

[2018-01-10 00:12:38] dji-rev-slack : I always wanted to do this, if not for the snow.

[2018-01-10 00:16:31] jcarlo : btw parrot bebop2 plus controller is on sale for $240 in B&H photo

[2018-01-10 00:20:54] dji-rev-slack : I was thinking of hanging a water bottle off Mavic to rev up the props.

[2018-01-10 06:08:02] haloweenhamster : Anyone here going to tomorrowland in Belgium? It took 7 minutes for the registration page to load so I doubt I'll be one of the first 20

[2018-01-10 17:53:38] kyokushin : <https://translate.google.pl/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvp.info%2F35549814%2Fdrony-nagrywaly-jak-sprzedaja-narkotyki-w-wiezieniu-sa-zarzuty&edit-text=&act=url>

[2018-01-10 17:53:56] kyokushin : lol, our Police recorde by a drones a drug dealers in a ... prison :smile:

[2018-01-10 20:42:21] dji-rev-slack : I like how the inspire 2 that the Punisher’s partner used never ran out of battery.

[2018-01-10 20:49:10] dji-rev-slack : And it was completely silent. I want one!

[2018-01-10 20:52:47] kilrah : **heh** <https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/10/16875192/ces-2018-blackout-power-outage>

[2018-01-10 21:50:32] mathieu.peyrega : lol

[2018-01-10 22:24:18] jcarlo : Lol but the Casino are always on

[2018-01-11 01:43:16] dji-rev-slack : Legal scams are extremely profitable.

[2018-01-11 10:24:03] haloweenhamster : @jezzab was wondering what your thoughts were on this <https://amp.reddit.com/r/vericoin/comments/7i7kg4/put_those_old_android_devices_to_use_mining_verium/>

[2018-01-11 10:42:44] jezzab : Interesting. Wouldn’t hash much though

[2018-01-12 00:08:16] wesleymiller : Wouldn't this be one hell of a ride at Universal Studios?

[2018-01-12 00:08:18] wesleymiller : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYDZbOutkpA>

[2018-01-12 17:58:12] jcarlo : Who doesn’t want to fold clothes <http://www.ktvu.com/facebook-instant/foldimate-robot-folds-your-clothes-2018-consumer-electronics-show>

[2018-01-12 18:16:54] kilrah : I don’t… so I don’t fold them :grimacing:

[2018-01-12 20:57:18] wesleymiller : You have requested an invite to Early Pre-Order your very own FoldiMate. We will send you an email to let you know when your invitation is ready.

[2018-01-12 20:57:46] wesleymiller : sold. anything that removes the more mundane aspects of life i'm down for.

[2018-01-12 23:43:04] wesleymiller : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaIoXN-7FjM>

[2018-01-12 23:45:15] wesleymiller : don't watch that.

[2018-01-13 00:27:39] djislack : cozy

[2018-01-13 02:47:39] wesleymiller : damn that clothes folder machine needs to be here now

[2018-01-13 16:55:43] kyokushin : <http://shop.walkera.com/index.php?route=product%2Fproduct&product_id=660> cool stuff, better than spark

[2018-01-13 16:56:27] kyokushin : and not from dji.cancer

[2018-01-13 17:23:33] kilrah : nice, 4k and 3-axis gimbal

[2018-01-14 06:51:09] wesleymiller : <https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Cleaner-Guidance-Powerful-Planning/dp/B01MU4WAUI>

[2018-01-14 06:57:49] wesleymiller : I bought that before it had an english app, after seeing the cleaning methodology i had to have one. very happy 6+ months in and 4793 minutes of use it still runs like new. The wife expresses her thanks for it on a regular basis, in very naughty ways. $$$ well spent.

[2018-01-14 11:05:32] kyokushin : yepp, girls have their own 'drones', i did the same

[2018-01-14 11:09:25] irischnpak : @djislack Performance was excellent with the two swiss carrier-grade 9dB sector antennas I use. I flew up to 7km (one-way) over the city - could have gone further but didn't wanted to force my luck. Ariived with 15% bat left

[2018-01-14 19:23:07] djislack : @irischnpak how many degrees (120 ?) Polarization? 2.4ghz, I assume?

[2018-01-15 20:15:13] mathieu.peyrega : I have friends who own this kind of cleaning robot. They also have a dog. One day, the dog got sick while they were at work. When they came back in the evening, robot had basically spread dog vomit all over the place :scream:

[2018-01-15 20:27:42] wesleymiller : i've heard and seen pictures of dog poop smeared around. We keep our dog in her kennel when we are gone and only run the vacuum when we are home for this very reason. It's still not really smart technology yet. The babysitting aint' that bad though. A shoelace is about the worst it gets generally, if you are mindful.

[2018-01-16 21:28:39] guest : Have you guys seen this one? <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQK9m_OBVgY>

[2018-01-16 21:31:56] wesleymiller : damn large pair on that guy

[2018-01-16 21:41:45] rcflyer40t : Wow :joy:

[2018-01-16 21:49:16] wesleymiller : he didn't have arm on a switch

[2018-01-16 21:49:42] wesleymiller : so... would this be considered a brute force?<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo12UNa_6jI>

[2018-01-16 21:58:02] kilrah : that stopped working long ago

[2018-01-16 23:12:23] irischnpak : @djislack Huber & Suhner SPA-2400/75/9/0/V VSWR: 1.5 Polarization: linear, vertical Gain: 8.5 dBi 3 dB beamwidth horizontal: 75° 3 dB beamwidth vertical: 60° Front to back ratio: 20 dB Max. power: 75 W (CW) at 25°C

[2018-01-17 06:43:14] spiteri.michael : I just love the bathtub!!!! :smile: Crazy! I donno that I would like to ride a quadcopter. Unless I was a long way up with a parachute!

[2018-01-17 07:09:11] jezzab : Reminds me of Danny Deckchair lol

[2018-01-17 07:09:24] jezzab : <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0337960/>

[2018-01-17 11:48:39] haloweenhamster : I'm glad some people on Facebook arnt here, trying to mod for FCC & he lives in the US

[2018-01-17 12:32:10] spiteri.michael : :smile: And that is facebook for ya :wink:

[2018-01-17 18:51:40] arrvodesign : Nice … just got an email ^ that after 6GB the data is free )))

[2018-01-17 19:42:53] djislack : that is amazing

[2018-01-17 19:46:11] nocommie : WTF is the point of supporting only a handful of phones?

[2018-01-17 19:46:39] djislack : 'supporting'

[2018-01-17 19:46:48] djislack : Works well with iPhone here

[2018-01-17 19:46:59] nocommie : Do they support all the technologies or something? (sprint, att etc)

[2018-01-17 19:47:03] djislack : and I take it on trips to other countries

[2018-01-17 19:47:48] djislack : Did someone say Google Fi Wiki?

[2018-01-17 19:47:49] djislack : <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Fi>

[2018-01-17 19:48:14] nocommie : So do you lie and say you have a supported device and just use teh sim card they send you?

[2018-01-17 19:48:24] nocommie : and it just works?

[2018-01-17 19:50:36] djislack : you have to turn on data roaming but yes

[2018-01-17 19:50:51] djislack : and you can get a data only sim for free too

[2018-01-17 19:50:58] djislack : (uses your SIM plan)

[2018-01-17 20:19:14] arrvodesign : I didn't lie but used Nexus 5 for a year with no issues ... That phone isn't supported btw and super cheap. Now I've got my pixel and it's pretty good. You probably can use almost any GSM device the only downside is that it won't switch networks as it supports few different ones

[2018-01-17 20:23:48] djislack : there is an app though

[2018-01-17 20:24:00] djislack : that you can use to switch on unsupported phones

[2018-01-17 20:24:17] djislack : but the pixel and the nexus 5x, 6 and newer can switch automatically

[2018-01-17 21:36:18] kilrah : umm $10/gb is rape territory...

[2018-01-17 21:42:06] arrvodesign : @kilrah depends … I am using $35 a month so its fine with me … but unlimited data addition is a plus

[2018-01-17 21:45:44] kilrah : guess i'm spoiled by unlimited :smile:

[2018-01-17 22:04:10] makingthisnameup : Fi also let's you add on data only Sims for free and pulls from your monthly rape charges. This is awesome if you play collect-a-phone and barley ever use them but want it working whenever you turn one on. I think I'm up to 8 sims. Still $30 a month.

[2018-01-17 22:05:29] jcarlo : I can’t even finish 2gb data

[2018-01-17 23:25:33] stiltzkin : >monthly rape charges :joy:

[2018-01-17 23:31:47] stiltzkin : That sounds like an accurate description of my Verizon bill

[2018-01-18 00:25:47] irischnpak : Anybody have a hint on how to enable the sshd on the mavic once you have rooted it?

[2018-01-18 02:30:04] jcarlo : Who wants marvel hoodies <https://www.walmart.com/ip/Marvel-Deadpool-Men-s-Sweater-Knit-Fleece-Hoodie/56095092?u1=4a1a3688fbf711e7bd7baef906d31fd80INT&oid=223073.1&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY&sourceid=30001179501980939560&affillinktype=10&veh=aff>

[2018-01-18 02:30:31] jcarlo : They different ones for $8

[2018-01-18 02:37:41] jezzab : <https://github.com/MAVProxyUser/dji_system.bin/tree/master/mods> @irischnpak

[2018-01-19 20:02:12] havo.diyar : Ye i done

[2018-01-19 20:31:04] venom-code : you are posting the same stuff in ~general as well, its a good way to get yourself ignored

[2018-01-21 16:19:13] kilrah : @hostile I'm poking at my brand new parrot disco and coming across a lot of your posts :stuck_out_tongue: did you play with the wifi bands on the SC2?

[2018-01-21 17:27:11] hostile : not specifically, no. I took my time and write an ARSDK protocol spoofer, that doesn't care if other users are connected to the app, and lets me inject AR Cmds at will tho

[2018-01-21 17:27:24] hostile : My disco is ooooooold, it is actually a pre-release model

[2018-01-21 19:03:42] kilrah : ok

[2018-01-21 19:04:10] kilrah : trying to switch it to 5GHz, but it seems the SC2 hardware simply doesn't support it...

[2018-01-21 21:51:29] vertigo : Any tech gurus in here (pc) (need I ask)

[2018-01-21 22:05:44] nocommie : I may be able to help. What you need?

[2018-01-21 22:12:06] vertigo : I have just installed an old hdd into the ide port on my mobo (mainly a sata pc). Powered it up and just get a green flashing clicking led on the psu. I disconnected everything removed the ram so it was just mobo and cpu same thing. I tried an old psu however the pc wouldn’t power on (not sure if old psu is good or not). If I power up psu not plugged in I get solid green. As soon as the mobo plug is in it starts flashing. Would clearing cmos help? What do you think it is? I have only used the pc a handful of times after building it a few years ago. Is this more likely psu (why would it flash wouldn’t it be dead) Or mobo Or cpu (wouldn’t pc try and start if it was cpu) No fans or anything work when psu is flashing.

[2018-01-21 22:22:22] jezzab : You have unplugged the IDE drive? @vertigo

[2018-01-21 22:24:09] vertigo : I have unplugged everything. The only thing connected is psu mobo and cpu. No ram or drives or anything.

[2018-01-21 22:25:15] jezzab : Its like its got a short and its going into protection

[2018-01-21 22:25:35] jezzab : Dont happen to have another mobo you and plug in?

[2018-01-21 22:27:39] nocommie : You could try unplugging the PSU completly and jumping it to see if is powers on. It may be a bad PSU

[2018-01-21 22:28:22] nocommie : <http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-power-up-an-ATX-Power-Supply-without-a-PC/\>

[2018-01-21 22:29:45] vertigo : That’s my next step. Reading online apparently it could be a capacitor inside the psu on the 5v service rail that has gone. By unplugging the psu it allowed the capacitor to discharge. I will try and plug the psu into my old pc (if I can find all the parts lol) and see if that powers up. If so I’m guessing mobo. I only wanted to get some files off my old pc drive lol. An ide usb converter would have been better lol. Then again if it is the psu it would have failed soon anyway.

[2018-01-21 22:30:47] nocommie : Yeah, I have had many failed PSUs from caps going bad. An ide to usb adapter is probably your easiest fix

[2018-01-21 22:30:57] vertigo : Thanks will try the paper clip trick. I guess it’s not powered up even though the green led is solid when completely unplugged and powers up with this trick.

[2018-01-21 22:35:23] nocommie : It should be completely powered on when you do that jumper but there will be no load on all of the rails so it is not a perfect test. You could try connecting the HD to one of the plugs to see if it spins up.

[2018-01-21 22:42:53] jezzab : Make sure you have a plastic bag to catch any of the magic smoke that might come out. Then you can pump it back in to fix it :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-01-21 22:43:31] jezzab : Maybe the magic smoke has already come out and thats why it wont work :disappointed:

[2018-01-21 22:55:44] vertigo : Have just done the paper clip trick psu powered fan up so I take it that means it’s the mobo

[2018-01-21 22:56:09] jezzab : Did you try pluggin in the IDE drive (power only)

[2018-01-21 22:56:21] jezzab : And do the PSU paper clip trick

[2018-01-21 22:56:31] jezzab : To make sure the PSU can hand a little load?

[2018-01-21 22:57:16] vertigo : I had the case fan plugged in but will try plugging in drives etc too.

[2018-01-21 22:57:25] jezzab : HDD = 12v and 5v

[2018-01-21 22:57:35] jezzab : will test both rails

[2018-01-21 23:19:49] vertigo : It powered up 3 hdd and case fan fine so it’s got to be mobo hasn’t it

[2018-01-21 23:22:40] jezzab : Yeah id be going down that path

[2018-01-21 23:25:58] vertigo : Now the question is upgrade or not haha

[2018-01-22 02:51:28] vertigo : Now I have just installed that power supply in another pc and it’s doing exactly the same. Will buy a cheap power supply first before forking out on a mobo

[2018-01-22 07:06:10] kilrah : make sure you can return that cheap PSU, cause if it’s the issue you probably want a not cheap PSU that would be likely to do the same soon enough :smile:

[2018-01-22 12:44:39] vertigo : Yeh this is just to prove it’s the psu lol

[2018-01-22 16:04:02] sdeakin1466 : hg,j

[2018-01-24 00:56:07] dji-rev-slack : @here I think this is pretty important <https://youtu.be/lezXTpEFzJ8>

[2018-01-24 01:53:22] djislack : @dji-rev-slack thanks for the interesting vid

[2018-01-24 14:57:47] jcarlo : For your kid or the kid in you. If you fit:grin: <https://www.walmart.com/ip/NERF-Striker-Pedal-Go-Kart/978015282?u1=cf1c06a8011611e8afb40e86e249807d0INT&oid=223073.1&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY&sourceid=16193723071733680618&affillinktype=10&veh=aff>

[2018-01-24 14:57:55] jcarlo : $25

[2018-01-24 17:25:58] djislack : Fun!!

[2018-01-25 20:57:17] kyokushin : Just finished

[2018-01-25 20:59:19] jakub : Ahh LEGO.. wish I didn't sold mine many years ago, had like 5kg of them :disappointed:

[2018-01-25 21:07:20] kilrah : lol, just saw the last jedi on monday

[2018-01-25 21:07:45] kilrah : when I was a kid my neighbor had a TON of lego

[2018-01-25 21:07:53] kilrah : like entire room filled with them

[2018-01-25 21:37:05] jcarlo : @kyokushin how long it took you? Should took a video and time lapse it

[2018-01-25 21:45:01] kyokushin : Over a week.

[2018-01-25 21:45:34] kyokushin : around 5200 pieces, 10kg

[2018-01-25 22:06:14] czokie : @channel - Looking for testers of a different type - Last week - the live youtube channel thing flopped due to technology - its due again this weekend - I’d love to test with anyone who has some time today.

[2018-01-25 22:06:36] czokie : Both to view some stuff - and to be pretend “guests” in the live stream

[2018-01-26 06:36:49] flyingkite : Is this the correct command to make /amt/nfz readonly? mount -o remount,ro /amt

[2018-01-26 06:50:27] jezzab : You can check it worked by typing mount

[2018-01-26 06:51:00] jezzab : The list should show the ro for amt change to rw

[2018-01-26 06:53:35] jezzab : Hold up

[2018-01-26 06:53:44] jezzab : You wanna make it read only?

[2018-01-26 06:54:43] jezzab : The file system on /amt or the nfz dir?

[2018-01-26 06:55:31] jezzab : To make a dir or file read only you will have to chmod it

[2018-01-26 06:56:17] jezzab : The command you are doing is making a mount point or file system read only. That one is done on boot

[2018-01-26 09:20:09] d : does anyone have a list of dji domains and subdomains?

[2018-01-26 09:20:17] d : I was thinking to snoop around a bit, see if I could find anything interesting

[2018-01-26 09:53:12] cs2000 : probably @hostile with his OCD on collecting info lol , but theirs a hell of a lot of them, Amazon servers, internal domain, Github (nudge-nudge :wink: ) etc.

[2018-01-26 09:57:25] jezzab : Shouldn’t take you long to nail down some domains and and sub domains @d

[2018-01-26 12:07:16] d : @jezzab of course not, thought someone might already sit on a list, but all right

[2018-01-26 13:46:25] jcarlo : Anyone looking for a smartphone stabilizer? <https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1274377-REG/feiyu_fyg4pro_g4_pro_3axis_handheld.html>

[2018-01-26 16:16:10] djislack : @opcode beautiful

[2018-01-26 16:16:32] djislack : @opcode Did you take that professionally?

[2018-01-26 16:24:11] opcode : @djislack yes. Finca Party (Finca=old spanish country house) on the beautiful island of mallorca in the mediterranian sea. was a promo shoot for the organizer.

[2018-01-26 16:42:49] djislack : Amazing!

[2018-01-26 17:42:16] spamboy1917 : I dunno. Are those any good? You got one?

[2018-01-26 19:43:50] dan143 : wow

[2018-01-26 19:43:54] dan143 : i want that house :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

[2018-01-26 19:43:55] dan143 : heh

[2018-01-26 19:47:46] djislack : I would be happy with just the lens :smile:

[2018-01-26 19:51:06] dan143 : heh, same

[2018-01-26 19:51:22] dan143 : i wish the camera on the mavic was interchangeable

[2018-01-26 19:51:37] dan143 : or that the optics package could be upgraded or modified

[2018-01-26 20:04:14] jcarlo : @spamboy1917 I just got an Osmo Mobile 1 a month ago

[2018-01-26 20:20:26] djislack : How do you like it @jcarlo

[2018-01-26 20:22:42] jcarlo : I like it a lot here is a sample with iPhone SE <https://youtu.be/p40nMGD5PhM>

[2018-01-26 20:36:04] flyingkite : @jezzab Thank you for your response. I guess where I'm getting at... when mount -o remount,rw /amt and removing the nfz, do you need to revert /amt permissions or leave as is. I'm familiar with chmod but it's been a while.

[2018-01-26 22:50:49] jezzab : @flyingkite it gets reset to ro on boot

[2018-01-27 04:39:09] flyingkite : @jezzab Ok good. Wasn't sure.

[2018-01-27 08:22:06] kilrah : wooow i just got shipment notice for a crowdfunding campaign I backed... in Dec 2015

[2018-01-27 08:24:04] jezzab : o.O

[2018-01-27 08:56:28] kilrah : worst delay i've had so far :smile:

[2018-01-27 12:46:12] mathieu.peyrega : lol ! is the product still up to date or have been reinvented since ?

[2018-01-27 13:13:12] kilrah : it's ok, it's an fpga dev board

[2018-01-27 13:13:33] kilrah : and still an interesting one

[2018-01-27 22:37:47] arrvodesign : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2GujJZfXpg&list=RDa2GujJZfXpg>

[2018-01-27 22:43:35] arrvodesign : try to beat that one

[2018-01-28 08:38:19] acorchia : Woah! Alex you like that stuff?? it's an awesome movie!

[2018-01-28 08:41:00] acorchia : btw, that band made some nice songs for that movie

[2018-01-28 09:52:13] ender : Hi guys, any idea if the Mavic Air has better or same range on CE compared to Sparky ?

[2018-01-28 10:00:33] kilrah : see specs

[2018-01-28 10:00:40] kilrah : supposed to be 4x more

[2018-01-28 19:46:13] ender : thx Kilrah…. Hmmm, thats okay…

[2018-01-28 19:47:23] kilrah : hope it is, will know in a couple of days...

[2018-01-29 12:46:51] vertigo : Wasn’t znaps was it. I’m still waiting for mine lol.

[2018-01-29 14:19:44] adrian : me too :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-02-01 01:16:46] jezzab : Pfft, im disappointed <https://thec64.com/>

[2018-02-01 01:16:56] jezzab : `Note: The keyboard keys are non-functional`

[2018-02-01 02:18:31] djislack : @jezzab That is nice!

[2018-02-01 02:18:53] jezzab : Be better if the keyboard worked

[2018-02-01 02:19:20] jezzab : Look a bit stupid having a USB keyboard to use it

[2018-02-01 02:20:12] djislack : I agree

[2018-02-01 02:20:21] djislack : it was part of the charm, that clunky keyboard

[2018-02-01 02:20:51] djislack : If they made it look like a C64 disk drive instead and skipped the original form factor, that would have worked too.

[2018-02-01 02:21:02] djislack : Whatever, it is cool to see that they pulled it off

[2018-02-01 02:21:42] djislack : hmm

[2018-02-01 02:24:18] djislack : I wonder if it is running a c64 emulator

[2018-02-01 02:24:26] djislack : or just an emu for games

[2018-02-01 02:24:59] djislack : It says you can type in BASIC to get things going

[2018-02-01 02:25:07] djislack : man, those were the days

[2018-02-01 02:25:55] djislack : I only had a sinclair

[2018-02-01 02:26:01] djislack : think the c64 was better.

[2018-02-01 02:26:08] djislack : a friend had a trs80

[2018-02-01 02:27:09] jezzab : I only had the Vic20 :disappointed:

[2018-02-01 02:28:34] jezzab : Heaps of tapes wouldnt load coz it was for C64. Sucked

[2018-02-01 02:28:57] jezzab : And you realised that AFTER you had been loading it for aaaaages

[2018-02-01 02:29:56] djislack : an hour ish?

[2018-02-01 02:54:44] jezzab : Yeah lmao

[2018-02-01 02:59:37] djislack : hehe

[2018-02-01 02:59:39] djislack : same here

[2018-02-01 03:41:44] lolo780 : Damn you guys are old like me

[2018-02-01 03:43:39] lolo780 : <https://i.imgur.com/1LNtjms.jpg>

[2018-02-01 03:44:57] lolo780 : Was throwing old stuff out the other day and had to save this one.

[2018-02-01 03:45:04] lolo780 : 8755, not the spark

[2018-02-01 04:12:33] jezzab : lol

[2018-02-01 05:31:58] lolo780 : I must have some 8080s around

[2018-02-01 07:05:20] djislack : I think the 1st intel cpu I used was an 8086

[2018-02-01 11:19:40] kilrah : <http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html?m=1> :joy:

[2018-02-01 11:45:52] jezzab : Love to see the cost/profit ratio lol

[2018-02-01 11:47:11] kilrah : it's in there at the end

[2018-02-01 11:47:38] kilrah : `To summarize, to mine a block at current difficulty, the IBM 1401 would take about 5x10^14 years (about 40,000 times the current age of the universe). The electricity would cost about 10^18 dollars. And you'd get 25 bitcoins worth about $6000. Obviously, mining Bitcoin on an IBM 1401 mainframe is not a profitable venture`

[2018-02-01 11:48:37] kilrah : :smile:

[2018-02-01 11:51:18] jezzab : Haha 3000W for 1 hash per 80 sec. USB ASIC stick is 3.8 billion a sec and 4W

[2018-02-01 11:51:31] jezzab : Cool experiment tho

[2018-02-01 11:51:44] kilrah : yup lol

[2018-02-01 11:53:45] kilrah : lol, the asic is 228 trillion times more power efficient :joy:

[2018-02-01 11:53:58] jezzab : Lol

[2018-02-01 20:51:28] sfshootme : ^ a person takes about 1,5 days per hash

[2018-02-01 20:51:36] sfshootme : so even pen and paper mining could be an option :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-02-01 20:56:27] kilrah : LOL

[2018-02-02 00:20:22] lolo780 : What's the power efficiency on a human?

[2018-02-02 00:21:03] jakub : you're scaring me

[2018-02-02 00:21:30] jakub : <http://paulheidema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/MatrixBluePillRedPill.jpg>

[2018-02-02 08:08:50] mathieu.peyrega : lol, i was about to write a post about "could/should DJI release a drone with full open source firmware" at some point and wanted to give the example of Nikon doing that (I believed) as I remember seing info on some forums in the past... Googling around I found this <http://photoextremist.com/tag/open-source> . In the end it happens is probably the aprils fool that have taken me the longuest to debust :slightly_smiling_face: more than 8 years

[2018-02-02 08:24:23] kilrah : LOL

[2018-02-02 08:24:29] kilrah : yeah good luck

[2018-02-02 08:32:17] jezzab : Watched Citizenfour the other day. Really struggling to watch porn now. Its destroyed it for me. I just feel watched now and cant.. paranoid lol

[2018-02-02 08:36:19] kilrah : hahaha i've had such episodes, only lasts a while though

[2018-02-02 08:36:33] kilrah : had that short "put tape on ipad camera" period

[2018-02-02 08:37:12] kilrah : then goes back to "oh fuck it"

[2018-02-02 08:37:32] kilrah : it was when i moved to dubai

[2018-02-02 08:42:31] jezzab : Haha

[2018-02-02 08:47:01] kilrah : felt a bit strange there initially for some reason

[2018-02-02 08:50:10] jezzab : With the Google Home and cams uncovered on my laptops I don't really care. I don't sit at home and talk about how I wanna blow this or that up or how I hate X political leader (no doubt that sentance was logged and set a flag now lol)

[2018-02-02 08:52:53] kilrah : as i was reading i was already saying "but you post it on slack" :joy:

[2018-02-02 08:53:07] jezzab : bwhahaha

[2018-02-02 08:54:12] jezzab : Well if they wanna tap into the Google Home and hear me screaming at the dog to stop eating his own turds (or the cats), they can. Its action city around here.

[2018-02-02 08:54:31] kilrah : LOL

[2018-02-02 17:49:47] djislack : HAHA

[2018-02-02 17:50:27] djislack : At least the ads you see are probably relevant to you

[2018-02-02 17:51:47] djislack : 90% of my non work web browsing, I do in a separate browser in private mode. The ads I see have nothing to do with anything relevant to me. Sometimes car dealers in other geographies, etc. Probably just the lowest-price ads.

[2018-02-03 09:54:15] lonelynok : !APK

[2018-02-05 00:55:49] arrvodesign : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3lcGnMhvsA>

[2018-02-05 01:04:13] lolo780 : Clearly they're not using DJI flight control

[2018-02-05 01:06:08] arrvodesign : lol they should … on the next trip ))

[2018-02-05 01:32:20] jakub : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvE83NfbZ8g>

[2018-02-05 23:07:52] mostriciattola87 : They should transfer crypto-values on torrent.. just watched "12 years slave" and though that we are all slave of the system anyway..lol I better go to sleep!

[2018-02-06 16:23:39] vertigo : If anyone wants some no max speed no nfz fw for i1 email this guy. Worth it to see what’s changed etc. <https://forum.dji.com/thread-133311-1-1.html>

[2018-02-06 19:21:30] djislack : This should be interesting

[2018-02-06 19:21:33] djislack : <http://www.spacex.com/webcast>

[2018-02-06 19:27:23] kilrah : yup, window open already :smile:

[2018-02-06 19:28:47] kilrah : and jsut been skimming their mission planning documents, interesting that it's all jsut there on the website for everyone to look at :slightly_smiling_face: welcome change from the shitty common "request for quote and sign an NDA before you get anything" approach... even base pricing is up

[2018-02-06 19:28:48] kilrah : <http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/falcon_9_users_guide_rev_2.0.pdf>

[2018-02-06 21:01:36] djislack : Bye bye starman

[2018-02-06 23:23:02] nocommie : LOL, a passing UFO sees that float by and are like WTF???

[2018-02-06 23:29:24] djislack : hahaa

[2018-02-06 23:29:34] djislack : What if they try to save it

[2018-02-06 23:30:07] nocommie : "silly humans, they throw away the best stuff"

[2018-02-06 23:30:40] nocommie : until they try to get it serviced b y Tesla "Uh sorry, that is a salavage title. we can not offer any help"

[2018-02-06 23:31:02] djislack : Maybe in a couple years we will see another species' car come drifting past

[2018-02-06 23:31:08] nocommie : lol

[2018-02-06 23:31:23] djislack : crazy stuff on the feed right not

[2018-02-06 23:31:25] djislack : now

[2018-02-06 23:31:29] lolo780 : Do you think he left insurance on it?

[2018-02-06 23:31:40] lolo780 : State Farm

[2018-02-06 23:31:56] nocommie : just as it blasts off, the last guy that was in it "hey, anyone see my wallet?"

[2018-02-06 23:32:07] nocommie : its under teh seat

[2018-02-06 23:32:13] djislack : Are those 'sparks' charged particles in the van allen belts?

[2018-02-06 23:32:29] lolo780 : That's tesla fairy dust

[2018-02-06 23:32:34] djislack : ahhhh

[2018-02-06 23:32:37] djislack : Blessing us all

[2018-02-06 23:32:49] nocommie : link to the feed?

[2018-02-06 23:33:10] djislack : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M>

[2018-02-06 23:34:54] lolo780 : damnit starman, two hands on the wheel!

[2018-02-06 23:34:58] djislack : haha

[2018-02-06 23:35:13] djislack : He looks pretty chill.. Considering what is happening.

[2018-02-06 23:35:30] djislack : Imagine if he suddenly started looking around

[2018-02-06 23:35:55] lolo780 : wouldn't be surprised if they hid some easter eggs

[2018-02-06 23:35:59] djislack : I agree

[2018-02-06 23:36:13] djislack : It is not like they were looking to keep the weight down.

[2018-02-06 23:36:19] lolo780 : visor flips up to reveal his identity

[2018-02-06 23:36:21] djislack : hahaha

[2018-02-06 23:36:26] djislack : Bezos

[2018-02-06 23:36:33] lolo780 : lol

[2018-02-06 23:36:52] djislack : Interesting that the paint seems to be doing fine

[2018-02-06 23:37:14] lolo780 : it's Encino Man

[2018-02-06 23:37:39] djislack : Good one!

[2018-02-06 23:37:45] lolo780 : Elon took it for a special detail and wax before liftoff

[2018-02-06 23:37:45] djislack : Squeezin the juise

[2018-02-06 23:37:54] djislack : 'weezin the juice'

[2018-02-06 23:38:14] nocommie : @nocommie uploaded a file: [ufo.jpg](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U64SCKJPJ/F95RELRBQ/ufo.jpg)

[2018-02-06 23:39:29] lolo780 : We've come a long way: <https://dp1eoqdp1qht7.cloudfront.net/community/projects/098/ddf/94639/1790626-o_19dlhfvrdmas1qmm13111p8qklqc-thumbnail-full.png>

[2018-02-06 23:39:31] nocommie : Ultimate prank, dude passes out the night before celebrating the pending launch. Hey, lets put him in the Tesla! He just wakes up

[2018-02-06 23:39:35] djislack : Pretty interesting article:

[2018-02-06 23:39:35] djislack : <https://www.inverse.com/article/40965-falcon-heavy-elon-musk-tesla-roadster-spacex>

[2018-02-06 23:41:01] lolo780 : Why tesla on mars? Because Here maps.

[2018-02-07 02:20:28] jezzab : “Printed on the circuit board of a car deep in space,” the SpaceX founder shared on Twitter and Instagram, revealing an inscription that reads “Made on Earth by humans.”

[2018-02-07 03:05:22] djislack : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KORTP545vAc>

[2018-02-07 03:17:58] djislack : Alternative link for watching spaceman

[2018-02-07 03:18:15] djislack : (view from the upper stage and car)

[2018-02-07 03:18:16] djislack : <https://www.pscp.tv/w/bUkVlHR3LTE1MTc4NjYwNzQ2MjU3MjYwN3wxRFh4eVhnZ1FlbkpNHNS3SC--nvja5Vc97F9Btie7DYNWnuOQ2WWptVbLUD4=>

[2018-02-08 05:57:17] kilrah : bahaha that's just as awesome as it's pointless :joy: <https://www.crowdsupply.com/teampocket/pocketsprite>

[2018-02-08 13:46:58] irischnpak : Just like the "Office Drone":

[2018-02-08 13:47:31] irischnpak : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8On6XOLmrQ>

[2018-02-09 18:59:39] guest : Guys.... Just found a great app that will work with all my "communications / social media" apps :slightly_smiling_face: Have a look at Franz @ <https://meetfranz.com/> (I'm not affiliated to / with it)

[2018-02-09 18:59:55] guest : All in one :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-02-09 19:53:02] kilrah : this is pretty cool indeed

[2018-02-09 19:54:06] kilrah : although it doesn't save any resources compared to running each service's app side by side unfortunately. Freaking web frameworks needing a ridiculous 500MB to show a chat window...

[2018-02-09 19:58:48] guest : you are correct. Just had a look. Using 620MB to show the window :disappointed: Hmmm

[2018-02-09 20:11:27] kilrah : all these freaking apps are the same, slack/whatsapp/rocket chat - all using around 500MB each

[2018-02-09 20:13:05] kilrah : all fine and dandy on my home/work machine and it's 32GB but when I'm on the move on my laptop with only 8GB of RAM I jsut need to close all of them stupid apps when I need to start a VM...

[2018-02-09 20:20:10] guest : Thats why I swap my HDD in my laptop (with test OS on it). Using VM's is nice, but needs (lot's of) memory too.

[2018-02-09 20:23:50] kilrah : Just need my next laptop to have at least 16GB RAM

[2018-02-09 20:24:20] kilrah : laptops are annoying compromises, requirements seem to change too often lol

[2018-02-09 20:25:13] kilrah : my workstations are always the most I can reasonably get, so never an issue and they last 6 years

[2018-02-09 20:25:42] kilrah : but that can be as big and heavy as it needs, no prob

[2018-02-09 20:26:09] kilrah : laptop I don't like something big, so that limits

[2018-02-09 20:26:52] kilrah : and 80% of the time I'm fine, it's jsut those relatively rare moments I need to spin a VM to quickly do something that it becomes a pain

[2018-02-10 00:25:29] djislack : <https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7wg7f8/donald_trump_and_kim_jongun_impersonators_that/>

[2018-02-10 01:11:42] djislack : cool

[2018-02-11 01:00:50] cascadianroot : Are folks here planning to mod the Autel Evo, or shouldn't I ask on a DJI engineering forum?

[2018-02-11 01:01:13] lolo780 : The evo has to be released first

[2018-02-11 01:06:59] lolo780 : Autel needs better reps

[2018-02-11 01:07:42] jcarlo : I’m thinking of getting DJI Tello

[2018-02-11 01:13:50] lolo780 : <https://i.imgur.com/VfG8tEJ.png>

[2018-02-11 01:14:48] lolo780 : Autel rep might do well to research the competition before making himself look stupid....

[2018-02-11 01:15:46] cascadianroot : The Reneger guy is an Autel rep?

[2018-02-11 01:25:40] lolo780 : Maybe nutswinger.

[2018-02-11 01:26:03] lolo780 : <https://imgur.com/Z2wIa3I>

[2018-02-11 01:26:24] lolo780 : Says he'll burn his xsp if dji can do 6 miles

[2018-02-11 01:27:31] lolo780 : All I was asking was if the EVO 900MHz is good for long range, and a release date.

[2018-02-11 02:13:02] jcarlo : That guy for sure doesn’t think outside the box

[2018-02-11 02:53:45] lolo780 : Can't see out of the pumpkin

[2018-02-11 07:54:02] kilrah : for a normal user any mod doesn't count obviously.

[2018-02-11 21:57:18] kilrah : @kilrah uploaded a file: [Clipboard01.jpg](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U600SGWBS/F988CKZ62/clipboard01.jpg)

[2018-02-12 11:36:52] deesparko : @deesparko uploaded a file: [my version :)](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U6FMT79UM/F972ACV8R/image.png)

[2018-02-12 12:15:31] haloweenhamster : @jezzab clicked on notification of a comment from you and it gone, most comments have

[2018-02-12 12:37:59] jezzab : I saw

[2018-02-12 18:48:12] vertigo : Just had a CRAZY idea. I’m currently building a fixed wing drone for search and rescue. My current plan is to use pixhawk however I would love lightbridge and the camera quick connect from an inspire. Do you think it would be possible to basically rip apart an inspire and use the internals in a fixed wing mode. Ideally I would love to use a single controller however may have to use 2. If I was to use 1 would it be a case of wiring 2 motor outputs to the motor then the other 2 motor outputs to the elevator (without esc) or would I basically have to use 2 controllers. Would there even be a way to trick the pixhawk to think the dji fc is a receiver. Just brainstorming here and I may never create this Frankenstein drone lol. I also plan on 2 gimbals so could I take the motor input from the connector and wire the other gimbal in parallel or would hat cause a overload issue. It will probably be easier to just use 2 Fc (inspire as gimbal controller and pixhawk as fc) then the pixhawk can control the other gimbal separately and is a dedicated fixed wing fc. Just spitballing but would be nice if I could just use the 1 (inspire) controller.

[2018-02-12 18:51:24] djislack : You can get lightbridge off the shelf if you dont want to rip apart a in inspire

[2018-02-12 18:52:48] djislack : Interesting idea though about using the controller to manage everything

[2018-02-12 18:53:00] vertigo : Lightbridge is about £800 plus doesn’t come with the camera quick connects. Also not sure if it’s compatible with pixhawk (don’t think it is) plus using an old crashed inspire is probably the cheapest option.

[2018-02-12 18:53:15] djislack : if you just want lightbridge for video and some telem

[2018-02-12 18:53:29] djislack : you can control the gimbal with 2 channels on a hobby TX

[2018-02-12 18:54:08] vertigo : Yeh. I plan on using an x3 or x5 camera so an inspire would be ideal I think.

[2018-02-12 18:54:48] djislack : You're probably right

[2018-02-12 18:54:52] djislack : that sounds awesom

[2018-02-12 18:55:19] djislack : Oh yes - if its search and rescue you can get FLIR cams, etc right?

[2018-02-12 18:56:07] vertigo : If it ever works lol. I think 2 controllers would be easiest but would love to just use one lol. And exactly I could get the xt if I wanted however for now would just be using downward pointing flir duo then develop it into its own gimbal then who know lol.

[2018-02-12 18:56:33] djislack : cool!

[2018-02-13 10:13:06] malcolmdavidge : Anybody know their way round the M600 SDK please drop me a DM for some paid work. Many thanks

[2018-02-13 13:43:16] jcarlo : Can anyone recommend a good inexpensive ip two way audio camera? I’m going to use it to watch my dogs while I’m away

[2018-02-13 13:48:18] jakub : get a second dog to watch the first one :wink:

[2018-02-13 13:48:38] jakub : by two way you mean camera with screen?

[2018-02-13 13:59:46] jcarlo : Lol. I have 5 dogs. No two way audio. You can hear them, they can hear you speak.

[2018-02-13 14:14:37] jakub : omg 5 dogs

[2018-02-13 14:14:44] jakub : I have one and she's like ten of them :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-02-13 14:18:04] jcarlo : Lol. Yup they do feel like 10 kids

[2018-02-13 14:25:03] jakub : :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-02-13 14:29:28] jcarlo : Lovely dog. Great shot

[2018-02-13 23:21:29] haloweenhamster : Not been on here much lately, been reading up on & playing with these

[2018-02-13 23:24:43] haloweenhamster : When it says Your file was uploaded — it’s safe and sound in Slack. Unfortunately your workspace doesn’t have any storage space left. To get more space, you can upgrade to a paid account or delete some of your older files. Is the picture still visible to others?

[2018-02-13 23:26:39] christianwoodward : I see the picture

[2018-02-13 23:26:49] christianwoodward : if you mean the message you just sent at 3:21(pst)

[2018-02-14 00:01:40] jcarlo : Yup I see the picture too. Nice quads. I haven’t touch 250 yet but I fly micro fpv.

[2018-02-14 00:02:08] hdizzle : @haloweenhamster purple props look trick as :ok_hand::skin-tone-2:

[2018-02-14 00:55:12] jcarlo : Is it possible to measure heart bpm by just placing your index finger on the flash of your iPhone? Runtastic Heart Rate app is for free right now so I tried it. It’s free for android and ios

[2018-02-14 01:19:57] jezzab : Interesting concept. It uses the flash and the camera to measure the heart rate

[2018-02-14 01:28:27] jcarlo : Yup.

[2018-02-14 01:28:48] jcarlo : But it looks like the camera more

[2018-02-14 20:18:13] djislack : Teamviewer and a laptop

[2018-02-14 20:18:20] djislack : with Skype on it

[2018-02-14 20:18:31] djislack : You might freak your dogs out though.

[2018-02-14 20:20:54] jcarlo : I’ll check it out. Thanks

[2018-02-15 06:29:58] jezzab : Anyone used the HDHomeRun CONNECT (<https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-connect/>) with Plex Media Server and Plex DVR? I set it up and I get good reception and all channels but its not flash (choppy). Seems like its a transcoding problem with Plex (I have MORE then enough power so its not CPU) as playing with their player its fine. Pity coz it is cool as and I really want to use it. Read quite a few reports of the same issue

[2018-02-15 07:41:14] jezzab : @jezzab uploaded a file: [Sums it up for me](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U65113Z43/F99JPV5T7/spiders.jpg)

[2018-02-15 07:59:45] lolo780 : @jezzab <https://imgur.com/FGNkljl>

[2018-02-15 08:07:02] lolo780 : <https://i.imgur.com/kTt4GEu.jpg> Baby bird eater

[2018-02-15 08:11:24] djislack : No problem, I use that in a pinch to look at my cat's food bowl.

[2018-02-15 08:26:39] jezzab : Im not a spider fan at all lol

[2018-02-15 08:26:47] lolo780 : Oh

[2018-02-15 08:29:40] jezzab : Lived in the UK for a bit and they were all like "ohh dont worry about the spiders, they are fine. None are poisonous"

[2018-02-15 08:29:57] jezzab : hmm try and grow up in Australia mate, you count the ones that ARNT not that are

[2018-02-15 08:30:22] lolo780 : Yeah.

[2018-02-15 08:30:26] mathieu.peyrega : Now DJI can't say Spark does not have bugs !

[2018-02-15 08:30:45] jezzab : The Huntsman's I can live with if they dont go over my head lol

[2018-02-15 08:31:16] jezzab : Live in the corner buddy and stay there

[2018-02-15 08:31:22] jezzab : They dont have webs

[2018-02-15 08:31:56] jezzab : And dont really harm you. But the fuckers get huge

[2018-02-15 08:31:57] jezzab : <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntsman_spider>

[2018-02-15 09:03:00] hawkinzzz : Is this just with live streams? whats it like when you record a live stream and play it back? Also, looking in a few forums it seems Plex tries to 'optimize' the stream but does it badly, try to change the setting to leave it at original quality and see if that helps. Could also try lowering your stream speed to say, 4 Mbps at 720p and see if that helps. Work your way up from that to the best quality stream.

[2018-02-15 09:35:23] jezzab : I didnt try and record and play back but live streams. I have it set not to transcode and use the original version but I didnt try and lower it on the Apple TV player. I do see it IS transcoding though and using 6 our of 32 cores (which isnt an issue. There are no other options in plex for the DVR

[2018-02-15 10:05:38] jezzab : My life rule with spiders is, if it’s arse is bigger than it’s head it must die

[2018-02-15 10:10:46] kilrah : LOL

[2018-02-15 10:45:06] hawkinzzz : Does it happen on all devices? also is the device your having problems with wired or Wifi?

[2018-02-15 11:04:49] jezzab : If I use another app on the AppleTV that plays direct from the HDHomeRun no transcoding or lower bitrate its ok, If I use my PC and use an app that plays direct from the HomeRun with no transcoding or lower bitrate its fine. If I use the ATV Plex at to play it thru Plex its shit, if I play it on my PC thru Plex web GUI its shit. Its PLEX tampering with it. PMS has an issue with the new DVR stuff. Its not CPU because I have a server with 64Gb of ECC RAM, 2 x Xeon E3-2690 CPUs (Passmark of 22,000), SSD, RAID and gigabit ethernet in a Dell R620 rack I use

[2018-02-15 12:00:34] hawkinzzz : sounds like you have an awesome set up! i'm hoping to get something like that when I move into my new place :yum: Have you thought about setting up a 10 gigabit network? trying to figure out whether its worth investing in. yeah, it doesn't sound like a hardware limitation at all. I have seen people with it working so it must be possible! just not sure what would be causing the problem!? let me know if you ever sort it, would be interesting to know what it was

[2018-02-15 17:06:11] jakub : what a ugly pets

[2018-02-15 17:39:45] jcarlo : I would like to conquer my fear and hold a black widow spider

[2018-02-16 03:28:35] jezzab : 100% AGREE lol Lounge room in the corner im fine with, bedroom is a no no and the toilet is a no no lol

[2018-02-16 03:30:40] jezzab : Oh I'm an idiot. I was using an old "alleged" 500mbps Powerline (EoP) box to send to the rest of the network (actually forgot about it). Swapped it out today for a 2 x 1000gbps Powerline and whoot! Its PERFECT. So I guess I should apologise to Plex lol The transocder must have been struggling with the lack of data and flipping out. Interesting that the other HDHomeRun compatible apps would play fine though (no transcoding i guess)

[2018-02-16 04:01:59] jcarlo : Thanks for that info

[2018-02-16 09:54:03] jezzab : Fuck that. Just found out Black Widows are our Red Back spiders...

[2018-02-16 09:54:08] jezzab : <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_funnel-web_spider>

[2018-02-16 09:54:17] jezzab : We have them too :/

[2018-02-16 12:35:18] cs2000 : You (Aussies) have **all** the spiders lol

[2018-02-16 13:44:49] jcarlo : Yeah give me 4 shots of tequila and 4 beers I can hold it

[2018-02-16 17:40:14] jcarlo : They have a lot of those in Hawaii?

[2018-02-16 17:42:39] quad808 : OMG...huge ones. Flying ones. They laugh at you when you hit them with a fly swatter. They dive bomb you when you are trying to get them. Disgusting.

[2018-02-16 17:43:48] quad808 : We have almost the same temps all year round, so they never die. They just keep getting bigger and bigger and BIGGER

[2018-02-16 17:44:23] quad808 : Once all the humans die on the planet, these will be left.

[2018-02-16 17:46:42] quad808 : Disgusting? I once kept 3 huge ones in a jar at work. No food, no water. They lived for MONTHS, until they turned on each other...one ate the other two, starting at the head and hollowed out their bodies. GROSS.

[2018-02-16 17:48:56] jcarlo : I’ve seen those. Yeah I hate roaches

[2018-02-18 00:33:11] flydji : you could roast them in some oil... tasty

[2018-02-18 10:18:31] mefisto : I just realized I have First World Problem - I ordered 3 micro-USB cables and want to check which one gives highest charging current, but my cellphone discharges very slow and I can't test it properly before it reaches 50%...

[2018-02-18 10:26:51] kilrah : lol

[2018-02-18 10:27:15] kilrah : you need one of these usb dummy loads

[2018-02-24 00:31:21] andrewbiddar : Anyone know if anything can be done with the Mavic Air? wondering if their is a older modified Go App that will function with Air

[2018-02-24 01:19:04] ben_lin : 4.1.22

[2018-02-24 06:13:51] bin4ry : 4.1.22 doesn't work for the air

[2018-02-24 06:52:05] ben_lin : oh rip

[2018-02-25 02:10:36] critterrzz : Test

[2018-02-25 02:26:59] jezzab : *tap tap tap This thing on? **boom** drops the Mic*

[2018-02-25 03:27:56] critterrzz : Thought I passed out...no action for quite awhile :relaxed:

[2018-02-25 03:45:19] quad808 : !beer

[2018-02-25 03:46:43] critterrzz : !MGD

[2018-02-25 03:47:08] critterrzz : Ahh crap...must be out

[2018-02-25 03:58:34] jezzab : !beer

[2018-02-25 14:49:04] jakub : !vodka

[2018-02-25 14:51:47] mostriciattola87 : Is there a way to program the drone to came back exactly on the same track instead of having a dumb useless RTH that is not seeing the right altitude?? my drone lost connection and decided to perform RTH that was set at a lower altitude..he crashed in trees..

[2018-02-25 14:52:43] mostriciattola87 : not mention I couldn't set an appropriate RTH altitude because restrictions of the DJI Go app

[2018-02-25 18:18:58] sfshootme : @mostriciattola87 you can set return to home 500 meters above the starting point. How high are the trees where you live?

[2018-02-25 18:19:26] sfshootme : Unless you flew into mountains well above 500 meters you shouldn't have a problem

[2018-02-25 19:10:57] quad808 : Those are some really tall trees!

[2018-03-01 23:39:08] irischnpak : Greetings from Greece: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVWwLg_Do18>

[2018-03-02 08:00:01] haloweenhamster : not been active for 2 years and still a mod

[2018-03-02 08:22:24] lolo780 : What's the Saab scene like?

[2018-03-02 09:03:00] jezzab : *shudders*

[2018-03-02 09:56:03] d95gas : Many moons ago went to look at a 2nd hand Saab ..... Sat in the drivers seat, went to shut the door.... It was like doing weights, jesus that door was heavy, never felt anything like it since

[2018-03-03 18:07:45] sfshootme : So. my Dji App on my iphone has updated several times. Did I now loose the FCC hack and the speed modifications through Dji assistant?

[2018-03-03 18:24:25] quad808 : FCC yes. Mods are on the bird.

[2018-03-05 15:22:11] guest : Any good hackers here? (Stupide Question). I just receiver an email from Open Bug Bounty Team ([openbugbounty.org](http://openbugbounty.org)) that one of my sides has a XSS vulnerability. I have no clue where to look and hope that some person here can help me find it.

[2018-03-05 15:30:28] jan2642 : It’s very far from my area of expertise. There seems to be a cheat-sheet to fix XSS issues: <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/XSS_(Cross_Site_Scripting)_Prevention_Cheat_Sheet>

[2018-03-05 15:41:07] guest : tnx. reading it now

[2018-03-05 15:41:28] guest : but could still use some help from an expert :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-05 16:04:36] mr.vibez : What software are you running?

[2018-03-05 16:38:09] guest : @mr.vibez?

[2018-03-05 16:38:15] guest : Software?

[2018-03-05 16:39:19] guest : Linux OS with Apache and PHP

[2018-03-05 16:39:35] guest : or... was this not for me?

[2018-03-05 17:01:39] mr.vibez : Well there must be app that is vulnerable. Just trying narrow it down. You may be running an old version of php or Apache

[2018-03-05 17:19:44] guest : It's a website using PHP. a small part of the site (used to "get" images ) is vulnerable.

[2018-03-05 17:19:58] guest : I might have found the problem..

[2018-03-05 17:20:39] guest : true on the "old" version of php.

[2018-03-05 17:20:44] guest : updating now

[2018-03-05 17:20:55] guest : :confused:

[2018-03-05 17:21:22] jakub : @guest next time transfer $ to the person which found it and get all information :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-05 17:21:38] guest : he want's admin access

[2018-03-05 17:21:54] guest : thats a no no.

[2018-03-05 17:22:02] guest : and I offered him $$

[2018-03-05 17:22:04] guest : $

[2018-03-05 17:22:09] jakub : gotta

[2018-03-05 17:22:21] jakub : then your choice was correct

[2018-03-05 17:22:38] jakub : Apache,PHP - PHP is a problem in there

[2018-03-05 17:22:58] jakub : so upgrade your services and maybe PHP itself

[2018-03-05 17:23:09] jakub : Apache as well if it's outdated

[2018-03-05 17:23:26] guest : working on it at this moment

[2018-03-05 17:23:28] jakub : unless you're using custom made scripts in there, then maybe you have some SQLinj

[2018-03-05 17:23:30] jakub : hf

[2018-03-05 17:23:41] guest : No SQL on this side

[2018-03-05 17:23:51] jakub : ah XSS

[2018-03-05 17:23:55] guest : yep

[2018-03-05 17:23:57] guest : XSS

[2018-03-05 17:23:58] jakub : kk

[2018-03-05 17:24:09] guest : will report back

[2018-03-06 08:18:37] guest : okay. it was a one line fix. I needed to htmlspecialchars a $_GET :confused:

[2018-03-06 08:19:17] guest : I must have forgotten that line when coding it :disappointed:

[2018-03-06 09:38:09] geniusyzy : is here someone familar with esp8266 and Tello

[2018-03-06 09:38:17] geniusyzy : I got trouble building the esp8266 wifi repeater

[2018-03-06 21:19:38] christianwoodward : ohhhh girl my limesdr just shipped

[2018-03-06 21:20:57] christianwoodward : make sure you have ENT_QUOTES set for your htmlspecial

[2018-03-06 21:20:58] christianwoodward : btw

[2018-03-06 21:21:07] christianwoodward : otherwise some single quote madness can ensue

[2018-03-07 19:08:24] umbr4 : I should crack out my limesdr, wish I had some Occusync code to run on it :wink:

[2018-03-11 17:56:50] irischnpak : Anybody here already played with the thought of replacing the camera module on the mavic pro with a better one?

[2018-03-12 08:57:48] djislack : Good question

[2018-03-12 09:01:14] ender : Played with it: i guess several over the time. Done or even attempted; none afaik.

[2018-03-12 09:01:32] ender : Although i’d love to see that :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-12 09:02:10] ender : BTW does anyone know how FLIR cameras are integrated in Mavic ? Full replacement & fully integrated or as Dual cam or more like a piggy pack solution ?

[2018-03-12 10:31:35] cs2000 : FLIR, didnt know it was an option/possibility on mavic. I dont know, but id guess it would be a replacement, cant see any mounting options for any additional lenses on the body or any spare connectors that would facilitate this on the PCB's

[2018-03-12 18:56:26] kilrah : it's not, some guys just strap one with an analog TX.

[2018-03-12 18:56:35] kilrah : and sell that for way more than it's worth

[2018-03-12 18:57:17] ben_lin : thought flir had a mod package for it

[2018-03-12 18:57:46] kilrah : nope, 3rd party company making a bodge with one, nothing more

[2018-03-12 18:58:00] ben_lin : dang

[2018-03-12 18:58:12] ben_lin : m210 is the way to go

[2018-03-12 18:58:20] kilrah : only official flir solution on dji stuff is for the i1/matrice

[2018-03-12 18:58:37] ben_lin : not even i2?

[2018-03-12 18:58:43] ben_lin : i2 has fpv cam

[2018-03-12 18:59:18] kilrah : nope, i2 has completely different camera interface with its own cams, only "film" ones available

[2018-03-12 18:59:28] kilrah : all the industrial offerings are for the i1's mount

[2018-03-12 19:00:13] ben_lin : oh i see

[2018-03-12 21:05:54] ender : bah, then my USB_over_IP with a Seek Flir could be better :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-15 16:43:08] kilrah : mmm gaming on the dji goggles works pretty well… starts to hurt the forehead after about an hour though

[2018-03-17 21:49:07] bjoneseying : When the batteries no longer hold a charge, you can use the goggles for pin the tail on the donkey at birthday parties

[2018-03-18 01:05:15] jcarlo : Does the DJI goggles have the same latency as your device?

[2018-03-18 07:48:09] kilrah : what "device"

[2018-03-18 10:24:49] hello : Hi all, hope you're having a great weekend so far. This is pretty random ...I'm after a suggestion for software or a process I can follow to clone a hard drive - I have a 1tb SSD being used in PC, running Windows with 1 small partition, that I'd like to clone on to a standard 1tb drive and pop that back in to the machine instead of the SSD. So will need the master boot record etc. Any suggestions for software that can do this simply? Free ware would be ideal if there something out there... Thanks in advanced!!

[2018-03-18 10:27:19] mr.vibez : <https://www.howtogeek.com/97242/how-to-migrate-windows-7-to-a-solid-state-drive/>

[2018-03-18 10:27:25] mr.vibez : I used that guide

[2018-03-18 10:28:04] mr.vibez : I also think samsung had migration tool that came with my evo SSD

[2018-03-18 10:44:02] hello : Cheers fella @mr.vibez I'll take a look!

[2018-03-18 10:45:48] hello : I'm kind of going in the other way in terms of the actual type of drives, taking a SSD out (need it for another machine) and putting a standard drive back in. But cloning principle is the same.

[2018-03-18 10:58:49] mr.vibez : Yeah it should work fine either way

[2018-03-18 11:20:45] kilrah : I use Minitool partition wizard

[2018-03-18 11:21:29] kilrah : has a "copy disk" feature that does the job perfectly

[2018-03-18 11:34:11] hello : Thank you @kilrah I'll check it out

[2018-03-18 12:02:09] mr.vibez : Daft question but I want to add titles to my video. The tutorials i've seen tend to use after effects to do this. Do I render out from Premier pro and import into after effects? I'm just worries about re-encoding twice

[2018-03-18 12:51:12] kilrah : no, you can do it in premiere, or if you really need the more advanced possibilities in AE you then import your premiere project in AE

[2018-03-18 12:51:23] kilrah : and it will automagically make the link

[2018-03-18 12:51:41] kilrah : you can go back and change stuff in premiere, AE will pick it up, etc

[2018-03-18 12:59:38] mr.vibez : Ah very cool

[2018-03-18 13:00:26] mr.vibez : One thing that is annoying me is that I shoot my footage at 25fps but quick-shots always come out at 30fps :disappointed:

[2018-03-18 14:35:23] jcarlo : @kilrah a tablet, phone, etc. I mean does it also lag/delay

[2018-03-18 14:36:01] kilrah : no, much less

[2018-03-18 14:37:07] kilrah : at least on MP/ocusync

[2018-03-18 14:37:11] kilrah : MA, not sure

[2018-03-18 14:40:54] jcarlo : Ok cool.

[2018-03-19 23:06:03] kilrah : Networked chat/mail systems and computer-aided teaching in... 1972 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLATO_(computer_system)>

[2018-03-20 20:50:50] jakub : lol... I have sonoff touch switches on walls, playing with mavic pro inside room made them blink few times :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-03-21 19:53:21] ender : COMPLETELY offtopic but is there some OSX CoreGraphics wizard here ? (CGDisplayCreateUUIDFromDisplayID)

[2018-03-22 00:32:52] christianwoodward : what about it? that func is pretty simple, just pass it the main display ID

[2018-03-22 07:49:40] ender : @christianwoodward THATS exactly the thing. If i pass main display ID all is fine BUT if i “remember” the last display id and just load it in a Uint32 at startuo and call it it stalls forever. As if the Call to get the main Display ID initializes something…

[2018-03-22 07:49:41] ender : This works: CGDirectDisplayID id = CGMainDisplayID(); CFUUIDRef mainDisplayID = CGDisplayCreateUUIDFromDisplayID(id); ---------------------- This stalls in CGDisplayCreateUUIDFromDisplayID: CGDirectDisplayID id = <load UInt32 from prefs>; CFUUIDRef mainDisplayID = CGDisplayCreateUUIDFromDisplayID(id); ---------------------- This works again: CGMainDisplayID(); CGDirectDisplayID id = <load UInt32 from prefs>; CFUUIDRef mainDisplayID = CGDisplayCreateUUIDFromDisplayID(id);

[2018-03-22 08:10:19] kilrah : well the doc basically says you can’t do that

[2018-03-22 08:11:45] kilrah : “A display ID **can** persist across processes and **typically** remains constant **until the machine is restarted**” aka it’s never good to rely on/store

[2018-03-22 08:16:45] ender : kilrah, i know its simplified of what i do. Believe me the ID ir right.

[2018-03-22 08:17:11] ender : That id is just an Uint32 and i get it dynamically just in my project in another process…

[2018-03-22 08:17:37] ender : and btw it stayed the same for 3 months now :slightly_smiling_face: But YES you are right but that seems not to be the point.

[2018-03-22 08:21:52] kilrah : well the point is since they say it “can” persist it’s not guaranteed, so even if it does in practice it means you’re supposed to get it anyway, and thus behavior when not running the function to get is likely to be unspecified

[2018-03-22 08:22:12] kilrah : and that’s what you see :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-22 08:33:26] ender : kilrah, in the real app i do get it dynamically a fraction of a sec before i used it, and if i check before and after its always the problem. The problem seems to be that i need to get that ID from the system (not out of IPC or prefs or whatever place) to make some magic happen) in THE SAME PROCESS where i use it. If i use the CGGetXXXXX in another process although it results in the very same UInt32 the following commands lack “magic”. THATS the crazy essence…

[2018-03-22 08:36:17] kilrah : yup understand it - bit crazy indeed, but just saying that this function doing some required magic isn’t excluded by the doc

[2018-03-22 08:52:10] ender : i know :slightly_smiling_face: Thats whats driving me crazy. As i can confirm the problem in a simplified Xcode Project AND in a Qt project i will probably pack up that crap and send it to Apple, we are VIP as they just bought a couple of instruments :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-22 08:52:57] ender : I hate these weirdnesses, who is “von Neumann” anyways ?? :wink:

[2018-03-22 12:01:54] spiteri.michael : So, who loves windows 10?

[2018-03-22 12:04:32] spiteri.michael : From the moment that virus tried to take over my computer, I was on to it. I run windows 7 and like it like that. I have even started buying up laptops with windows 7 just to keep as spares.

[2018-03-22 12:14:17] spiteri.michael : Now after several years of paying out on my mrs for switching to 10 from 8.1, watching that thing do GB updates after updates, resetting all settings hiding shit etc, well after the last security update which consumed many hours failed, causing the cpu to run flat out(probably mining bitcoin for microsoft!) she has decided that enough is enough and wants to revert back to 8.1!! HAHA, well this windows 10 shit(virus) holds on harder than any virus I have ever had. She is having a hell hard time getting it to recover back to 8. As the laptop comes with no cd drive and the recovery partician doesn't work anymore(probably trashed by the windows 10 virus) she is trying to make a recovery usb drive from the hp recovery options and that seems to fail too. She also downloaded windows 8 from microsoft, but it wouldn't install over the windows 10 virus. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[2018-03-22 12:36:08] jezzab : Windows media creation tool and a USB stick Backup ur documents and pics etc Clean install

[2018-03-22 12:36:59] jezzab : I don’t mind 10 if u run something like Enterprise and can delay updates

[2018-03-22 13:49:26] ender : If you change the network settings to convince W10 that the internet connection is a pay connection (maybe “timed connection” but not sure, german is “getacktete Verbindung”) W10 wont update anymore as the fear to cause you expenses…

[2018-03-22 16:53:26] quad808 : kill the update service. set it to manual. Wow. that was easy.

[2018-03-22 16:54:31] ender : yep, thats the way for people who dont shy away from magic stuff like services :slightly_smiling_face: The other solution is housewife proof.

[2018-03-22 16:59:27] kilrah : W10 perfectly fine here

[2018-03-22 17:00:08] kilrah : And never seen something cause trouble going clean to an older version either.

[2018-03-22 17:03:26] ender : me neither, W10 actually made slow / weak machines feel smoother…

[2018-03-22 17:12:34] kilrah : +1

[2018-03-22 21:07:41] spiteri.michael : The updates had been turned off but as we were going to her mothers for the weekend she decided to let it do an update while still on our connection(Mother in laws connection is slow and limited to about 15G/month) I don't know why she lets it update! I think she had turned it off because it was always doing regular updates that seem to take hours at a time.

[2018-03-22 21:10:44] spiteri.michael : Thanks Jezzab, I will have to sit down with it and see what I can do, arghhh. I tihnk the last probalem she was having was that the windows media creation tool was not completing the transfer to the usb. Might need another usb stick.

[2018-03-22 21:21:39] spiteri.michael : The thing that really got my back up about windows 10, apart from just trying to install itself like a virus would, was after doing a scan on my system it declared that everything was good to go, all drivers were compatable etc. Well I knew for a fact that the driver for my eeprom programmer did not work on 10 and to this date the Chinese manufacturer still hasn't bothered with an updated driver(regular updates my ass! Stager VS1000). So after it told me porkies about that, I said F U windows 10. I'd rather let the hackers in to browse around my computer then let it be taken over by microsoft. Another laptop I have here that once had 7 on it was upgraded to 10(mother in law) and it ended up so slow that it was practically unusable. Granted it only has 4G ram(core i5 2670 or about that era) but it used to work just fine on 7. That is another one that is going to go as a clean install of 7 and will be dedicated to my pick and place machine :smile: Anyway, I'm sure I'll get the mrs' computer sorted..

[2018-03-22 21:23:45] ender : If Mrs. PC is good world peace can come, everybody knows THAT :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-22 21:24:02] kilrah : i have machines with 1GB ram running W10 perfectly fine

[2018-03-22 21:24:51] kilrah : of course slowly... but it's not really windows' fault, nowadays a web browser wants 2GB just for itself to run nicely

[2018-03-22 21:25:42] kilrah : (and that's becasue of modern websites, not becasue of the web browser itself)

[2018-03-22 21:26:10] spiteri.michael : IDK, firefox uses up to about 3, 4, or 5G on my machine, 1G ram sounds like hell unless you have SATA3 SSD's!

[2018-03-22 21:26:40] ender : Thats why i skipped to Chrome :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-22 21:26:48] ender : FF is a memory hog nowadays

[2018-03-22 21:27:03] spiteri.michael : Yeah, they really have killed firefox

[2018-03-22 21:27:44] spiteri.michael : Chrome is another corporation that already knows too much about me, don't want them to 100% know all my browsing habbits!

[2018-03-22 21:27:59] christianwoodward : you guys should run windows 10 long term edition, no bullshit

[2018-03-22 21:27:59] ender : i know i know…

[2018-03-22 21:28:17] christianwoodward : its only available under enterprise but Im sure you can get a copy of that (MSDN or other….)

[2018-03-22 21:28:48] christianwoodward : chromium is a thing

[2018-03-22 21:29:02] spiteri.michael : But will it run that eeprom programmer that only had drivers for 7?

[2018-03-22 21:29:42] kilrah : firefox is dead since they changed extension framework... the only thing I've been using it for in the past few years is some specific extensions i haven't found equivalents for on chrome... and obviously they're dead under the new firefox

[2018-03-22 21:29:45] christianwoodward : idk but the free version of hyperv that comes with it will run 7 for you

[2018-03-22 21:29:55] kilrah : so using the waterfox fork

[2018-03-22 21:29:59] christianwoodward : yeah firefox really pissed me off with that

[2018-03-22 21:30:15] kilrah : which i already was on anything but my laptop for ram accessibility reasons

[2018-03-22 21:30:40] christianwoodward : I just run chrome and relegate myself to the fact that I use gmail and google knows all about me anyway

[2018-03-22 21:30:56] kilrah : i don't give a shit about that

[2018-03-22 21:31:04] christianwoodward : the firefox plugins I used to use have been duplicated in chrome now so Im happy

[2018-03-22 21:31:06] christianwoodward : or in burp

[2018-03-22 21:31:15] ender : Not wanting to sound stupid but you cannot get it to work if you switch of that enforced driver signing ?

[2018-03-22 21:31:31] kilrah : BUT with my usage chrome still uses up to 8-10GB RAM

[2018-03-22 21:31:41] christianwoodward : true, but RAM is soooo cheap

[2018-03-22 21:31:45] kilrah : no issue at home since my PC is bult to handle that

[2018-03-22 21:31:45] christianwoodward : load that baby up

[2018-03-22 21:31:53] ender : not if soldered on your W10 tablet :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-22 21:32:00] kilrah : RAM is fucking expensive right now

[2018-03-22 21:32:09] spiteri.michael : I don't want to turn around and have to buy new hardware or run a virtual machine

[2018-03-22 21:32:10] christianwoodward : thats a purchasing problem :wink:

[2018-03-22 21:32:27] christianwoodward : idk we work in IT, we make good money, we can afford some RAM

[2018-03-22 21:32:43] ender : nah we make the Boss get us that RAM :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-22 21:32:57] christianwoodward : there ya go

[2018-03-22 21:32:58] ender : (also valid if we ARE the BOSS)

[2018-03-22 21:33:03] spiteri.michael : From memory the driver didn't even show up in 10, but this was years ago now

[2018-03-22 21:33:06] kilrah : latest builtd (SFF for taking on work trips) only got 16 until it gets more reasonable... main machine that was bult in 2014 got 32 GB for less...

[2018-03-22 21:33:26] christianwoodward : 16gb is like $120-200 (and you dont need that $200 nonsense unless youre buying ECC) so meh

[2018-03-22 21:33:44] christianwoodward : I dont notice 16gb being an issue but I also am never running more than one VM

[2018-03-22 21:33:52] christianwoodward : I do run chrome with a billion tabs open

[2018-03-22 21:34:11] ender : i always run 1 to 3 VM’s so i need 32 GB :wink:

[2018-03-22 21:34:25] christianwoodward : chrome isnt super happy with me when I do that but thats okay, its my fault I have 300 tabs open

[2018-03-22 21:34:35] christianwoodward : yeah RAM it up my friend

[2018-03-22 21:34:45] ender : 10.13 / W10 / WXP / 10.5

[2018-03-22 21:34:46] christianwoodward : we have a remote VM server for that

[2018-03-22 21:34:56] ender : need4speed = local

[2018-03-22 21:35:09] kilrah : i spend a LOT on PCs since it's basically the thing I spend my life on. But still I try to get a good price/performance compromise, and when things get unreasonable and piss me off I say fuck it

[2018-03-22 21:35:19] christianwoodward : I dont game so its all good over the network

[2018-03-22 21:35:45] ender : no game, work

[2018-03-22 21:36:02] ender : although i used to code games for work but that was then :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-22 21:37:02] ender : cya guys see you later…

[2018-03-22 21:38:56] kilrah : i occasionally game, but only when we're a group of friends or when i'm on a work trip and have such shitty internet i can't do a thing (reason why i built that SFF gaming pc)

[2018-03-22 22:01:31] kilrah : nice, documentary i licensed footage for 1.5 years ago is finally airing on tv in a few days

[2018-03-22 22:01:51] kilrah : crazy how long production is

[2018-03-22 22:07:19] kilrah : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR5WT12B_88&feature=youtu.be>

[2018-03-23 00:56:05] jezzab : If it doesnt work onto the USB then just use the WMCT to save the ISO and use Rufus to write to the USB later

[2018-03-23 06:31:15] jezzab : That exciting moment when your 2 new 10GbE NICs turn up and you go to put one in the PC and realise the is no PCIe 4x slots :disappointed: crushed...

[2018-03-23 08:22:41] spiteri.michael : Doh!

[2018-03-23 08:26:14] jezzab : Tried to put an Asus XG-C100C in my Dell R620. Don't, it doesn't work

[2018-03-23 08:26:23] jezzab : !beer

[2018-03-23 13:11:28] jakub : !420

[2018-03-23 13:11:52] jakub : oh come on, it's almost 4:20 somewhere :disappointed:

[2018-03-23 13:28:47] validat0r : not here (not yet)

[2018-03-23 15:19:35] cs2000 : 3:20 here, not quite time lol

[2018-03-23 15:25:36] jakub : ```cs2000 [4:19 PM] 3:20 here, not quite time lol```

[2018-03-23 15:25:44] jakub : :smile:

[2018-03-24 00:02:45] ensjesse : I want to fly today but too rainy :(

[2018-03-24 01:04:49] jakub : I want to fly this month but too busy :disappointed:

[2018-03-24 02:09:54] spiteri.michael : I'm feeling ya pain Herman! Seems to have eased off here... For now!

[2018-03-24 02:12:59] spiteri.michael : And on that note, it's back on again!!

[2018-03-24 12:27:28] kilrah : all slots full already?

[2018-03-24 12:29:55] jezzab : Yah. Other ones are just 1x. Cheap mobo. I’ll have to swap it

[2018-03-24 12:30:40] kilrah : bah

[2018-03-24 12:31:17] kilrah : so you can't put your cards in either of the 2 pcs you planned them for? sucks

[2018-03-24 12:31:46] jezzab : Then went and out the other one in the server.... nope won’t accept the ASUS NIC. Have to sell it now lol. Ordered a second hand Broadcom

[2018-03-24 12:32:02] jezzab : Clearly I didn’t plan well at all

[2018-03-24 12:32:21] jezzab : Then went and put the other one in the server.... nope won’t accept the ASUS NIC. Have to sell it now lol. Ordered a second hand Broadcom

[2018-03-24 12:33:35] kilrah : messy

[2018-03-24 12:33:44] kilrah : wonder why not compatible lol

[2018-03-24 12:34:49] jezzab : Fucking Dell pricks. Complains the PCI card checksum is wrong. Which is code for we don’t sell it so u can’t use it. Fuckers

[2018-03-24 12:36:33] jezzab : I should hav eknown better oh well. Post beer purchase

[2018-03-24 14:28:10] d95gas : Quad808 tried some CF ones but these were part of a new development. You would need to be a bit more specific as to where these came from..... There was someone on the MavicHax forum who had CF and said they were totally rubbish..... very hit and miss with 3rd party props

[2018-03-24 14:50:18] irischnpak : No name product from Aliexpress. I'll give them a try - after checking if they are balanced.

[2018-03-24 16:25:46] d95gas : As long as they dont cost a fortune (unlikely on AliExpress), then its always worth a punt :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-03-24 17:05:45] quad808 : I just picked up some more CF props from here: <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077NZK6G4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1>

[2018-03-24 17:06:53] quad808 : They are good. Balanced very well, dropped them on the Du Bro and compared them against the stock Mavic props. They are quiet, really quiet....like the platinum props. I would buy again.

[2018-03-24 17:07:06] quad808 : well made. I seem to have a "thing" for spare props. OMG. Too many. LOL

[2018-03-24 17:15:11] kilrah : I always get a spare set in case - but never broke a single mavic prop

[2018-03-24 17:57:27] jcarlo : You just need to be fast in switching the motors off ones it hits something

[2018-03-24 21:08:45] quad808 : @kilrah me too, but OMG. Don't ask me to count the # I have for spares. I will stop buying them, I promise. The props above...you would think I would just pick up one set, right? Noooooo...I had to have two sets, just in case one was crap, so could swap it out.

[2018-03-25 14:16:35] w4t3r : anyone checked out dji's 1500 patents?! <https://patents.google.com/?assignee=SZ+DJI+Technology+Co+Ltd>

[2018-03-25 14:16:52] w4t3r : includes loads of nice drawings and shematics

[2018-03-26 22:46:24] validat0r : does it harm ELF files in any way if one would add garbage at the end of the file`?

[2018-03-27 05:36:37] jan2642 : No, it does not. It will be ignored by the loader. What are you up to ?

[2018-03-27 09:32:27] validat0r : Patching network service

[2018-04-01 06:06:02] jezzab : That was a new experience. Extracting the DSDT of a motherboard BIOS that hasn't turned up yet. Decompiling, patching in SLI support (SLIC) and recompiling. Fingers crossed it works. Bloody Supermicro PITA

[2018-04-01 16:51:11] ensjesse : Anybody pick up a tello?

[2018-04-01 16:51:35] ensjesse : @ensjesse uploaded a file: [Image uploaded from iOS](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U805WPT5W/F9YS9JHGR/image_uploaded_from_ios.png)

[2018-04-01 16:52:31] ensjesse : Ahh sorry. Shoulda searched. Late to the party as usual :joy:

[2018-04-02 20:21:15] validat0r : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFAUzlDaWzE>

[2018-04-02 20:29:31] validat0r : I suppose the mail had to be delivered to one of the tenants on the second floor .. missed only by couple of inches :smile:

[2018-04-03 05:58:24] nocommie : lol

[2018-04-03 07:35:19] ender : rofl

[2018-04-03 09:29:28] jezzab : Damn eBay Global Shipping Program. I swear it’s like this: Someone posts it to another bloke who has a trailer and he drives it with his car to a post office two states over that posts it to another guy that is a bike courier and he takes it to a UPS depot and they send it economy to a FedEx depot that then sends it to another guy who posts it USPS to the GSP place then it’s strapped to a large sea bird that flies to Honolulu when it’s transferred to a whale and finally arrives in Australia where it is mailed to me the slowest it can be.

[2018-04-03 09:33:45] ender : wanted it for birthday, ey ? :wink:

[2018-04-03 09:33:57] ender : That whale probably got distracted…

[2018-04-03 09:35:56] jezzab : Got everything else just need my motherboard. The little upgrade has gotta waaaaaaaaay out of hand. Only wanted to add a 10GbE NIC

[2018-04-03 09:36:45] jezzab : Then see if my SLI patch works. Few nerves there

[2018-04-03 09:39:15] jezzab : I may have ended up with two GTX 1070ti’s :/ gotta lay off eBay and beer. I don’t even play games lol but hashcat is gonna rip (and Resolve)

[2018-04-03 10:28:27] kilrah : AND it’s fucking expensive too since they usually botch the customs amounts

[2018-04-03 10:31:28] coldflake : @jezzab Insane in the membrane... lol

[2018-04-03 10:32:01] jezzab : ....insane in the brain!

[2018-04-03 10:35:34] jezzab : Cypress Hill fan @coldflake? lol

[2018-04-03 10:37:17] jan2642 : Crazy insane, got no brain…

[2018-04-03 10:46:16] jezzab : Little scary that came out 25 years ago.

[2018-04-03 10:52:30] kilrah : don’t make us all feel old now

[2018-04-03 10:54:41] jezzab : Fuck u lol

[2018-04-03 10:56:27] jezzab : Guess one day someone with be saying that about some Justin Bieber bloody song

[2018-04-03 10:56:35] jezzab : *shudders*

[2018-04-03 10:57:05] jezzab : *chokes back a little mouth vomit*

[2018-04-03 10:57:18] hans112 : 25 years ?

[2018-04-03 10:57:20] hans112 : Damn

[2018-04-03 11:22:56] spiteri.michael : Ha Beiber, Back Street boys and spice girls!!!! LOL I'll take cypress hill anyday :smile: Need to get that shit on MMM

[2018-04-03 11:24:49] spiteri.michael : A lot of good music came out 25 years ago, sadly they couldn't keep up the pace

[2018-04-03 11:25:12] mr.vibez : There was also a lot of crap, just like today

[2018-04-03 11:25:21] spiteri.michael : Beiber!

[2018-04-03 11:26:02] spiteri.michael : Yeah, there was a lot of trash too, luckily all the good stuff stuck

[2018-04-03 11:26:07] mr.vibez : Sisqo

[2018-04-03 11:26:30] mr.vibez : Wait, even worse, Hanson!

[2018-04-03 11:26:31] jezzab : Still a trip when you hear Nirvana Teen Spirit on Gold 104 @spiteri.michael lol

[2018-04-03 11:26:39] jezzab : Mmmmm bop

[2018-04-03 11:26:45] mr.vibez : that's the one!

[2018-04-03 11:26:59] spiteri.michael : LOl hanson!!

[2018-04-03 11:27:23] mr.vibez : In the UK we have a DAB radio station that just plays r&b and dance from the 90s. Love it

[2018-04-03 11:27:49] spiteri.michael : Yeah Jezzab, sadly they are starting to play som enot bad stuff on 104 now, the funeral ads get me though, I'm no where near ready to cark it yet!

[2018-04-03 11:28:02] jezzab : Gotta love Kris Kross tho haha

[2018-04-03 11:28:19] jezzab : Bwhahaha funeral ads lmfao soooo true

[2018-04-03 11:28:41] spiteri.michael : And the occasional abba, eeek!

[2018-04-03 11:29:22] mr.vibez : I find myself starting to like 80s music now that i'm getting older. Hated it when I was younger

[2018-04-03 11:30:14] mr.vibez : N.W.A being the exception, always like that

[2018-04-03 11:30:40] jezzab : Hell yes. I ended up snagging it on vinyl (years later)

[2018-04-03 11:31:00] jezzab : Had a tape as a kid. Was banned in Oz dunno how a mate got it

[2018-04-03 11:31:37] mr.vibez : Yeah I had it on tape too. Running copies for everyone at school

[2018-04-03 11:31:44] spiteri.michael : It's hard to imagine how we did naughty things without the internet back in those days

[2018-04-03 11:32:44] mr.vibez : Without dragging this conversation too far down, I remember the days when having a copy of a porno tape made you a legend at school lol

[2018-04-03 11:32:56] spiteri.michael : All your porn came from a mates mates dad!! :smile:

[2018-04-03 11:33:03] mr.vibez : so true

[2018-04-03 11:33:11] jezzab : True that

[2018-04-03 11:33:38] spiteri.michael : and ya stash of picture mags, and the nice black labels.... Oh those were the days!

[2018-04-03 11:33:45] mr.vibez : There was one called "animal farm" that seemed to be an urban legend. Everyone had apparently seen it but no one ever had a copy to share lol

[2018-04-03 11:34:02] jezzab : Oh my old man had one I found stashed. This cracks me up. You wore the old red and blue 3D glasses lmfao

[2018-04-03 11:34:05] jezzab : It was 3D

[2018-04-03 11:34:17] spiteri.michael : Till some little prick who made out to be your mate told his mummy :disappointed:

[2018-04-03 11:34:38] mr.vibez : Oh yeah, finding a porno mag in the woods was the highlight of the summer holidays around here

[2018-04-03 11:35:03] jezzab : Or on the way home from school in a drain

[2018-04-03 11:35:10] jezzab : It was like finding gold

[2018-04-03 11:35:26] mr.vibez : Simpler times

[2018-04-03 11:36:18] spiteri.michael : Hey, we survived, never went blind either :smile:

[2018-04-03 11:36:24] jezzab : Lol

[2018-04-03 11:36:47] mr.vibez : not through lack of trying!

[2018-04-03 11:39:35] jezzab : Or the frustration of having to rewind a VHS you just hired. Or ur VHS player head getting so dirty coz some prick never cleaned their and dirtied the one you hired. Or pulling a shifty and having to resplice and a vhs tape that got fucked up in ur player and snapped, then praying the video shop won’t call after u dropped it back

[2018-04-03 11:41:52] mr.vibez : lol was talking to the wife about this the other day. How about taking a photo but forgetting to wind the film on

[2018-04-03 11:42:00] jezzab : Oh man

[2018-04-03 11:42:07] jezzab : Dont start on that

[2018-04-03 11:42:16] jezzab : Or it auto rewound by mistake

[2018-04-03 11:42:48] jezzab : And if u could remember how many u took u could be smart and rewind and take pics with the cap on until then

[2018-04-03 11:43:16] spiteri.michael : No damn selfies back then, cause who the hell wanted to waste a photo!

[2018-04-03 11:44:36] spiteri.michael : And how cool were digital tuners in ya radio :smile:

[2018-04-03 11:46:04] jezzab : We sounds like old men. But simpler, fun times. Annoying as well but I guess u don’t miss what u don’t have

[2018-04-03 11:46:37] spiteri.michael : Speaking of radios, my lime sdr might be turning up tomoz at long last..

[2018-04-03 11:46:48] jezzab : I do love the tech now. Waited all my life for it to catch up (still hasnt)

[2018-04-03 11:46:57] jezzab : Ohhh whoot

[2018-04-03 11:47:12] jezzab : Full duplex aren’t they?

[2018-04-03 11:47:19] mr.vibez : CB radios!

[2018-04-03 11:47:24] jezzab : I’ve got a hackrf

[2018-04-03 11:47:35] spiteri.michael : I think so

[2018-04-03 11:47:45] jezzab : Walkie Talkie from Tandy bro

[2018-04-03 11:47:58] spiteri.michael : LOL they were crap!

[2018-04-03 11:48:00] jezzab : THATs how you rolled in the 80s bro lol

[2018-04-03 11:48:27] jezzab : You had rich parents for CBs???

[2018-04-03 11:48:52] jezzab : Oh oh and the DSE electronics kit.

[2018-04-03 11:49:07] spiteri.michael : I lived up the road from the tip

[2018-04-03 11:49:18] spiteri.michael : Yeah the magazines and kits were cool

[2018-04-03 11:49:38] jezzab : You lived near a gold mine then

[2018-04-03 11:50:08] spiteri.michael : Hell yeah! Always bringing crap home and attempting to electrocute myself

[2018-04-03 11:50:12] jezzab : Tip trips were big. Always came back with more then we took to dump lol

[2018-04-03 11:50:25] spiteri.michael : Called recycling

[2018-04-03 11:52:28] spiteri.michael : It was good, cause if I couldn't fix it, or made it worse, it didn't really matter. Made you think...

[2018-04-03 11:53:26] spiteri.michael : Damn Tv chassis, don't know how many times I got stung, I hated them

[2018-04-03 11:54:02] jezzab : Yeah a couple of computer monitors got me gooood

[2018-04-03 11:55:40] spiteri.michael : I got to the point where I woudln't even bother with crt cause they just wanted to kill you! Amps and tape decks etc were much more fiddle friendly

[2018-04-03 12:51:25] pingspike : @mr.vibez reading all that mate, sounds like you went to the exact same schools I did, copied the exact same Atari ST and Amiga discs, found random shit in the woods and listened to the exact same music as I did growing up in south London lol :smile:

[2018-04-03 12:59:28] mr.vibez : I'm a little more up north than london. I too had an amega and atari st. My uncle used to get me all the cracked games. They used to have excellent loading screens suck as this <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrCZmpXcI3w>

[2018-04-03 13:00:33] mr.vibez : That's when hackers had true talent. The OGs should have a splash screen like that for the patched DJI Go app lol

[2018-04-03 13:09:29] pingspike : yeah I left London a while back (house prices are fucking mental now), live in north west now. Those were the days though man... remember the 'demos' you used to get on disc? wasn't a demo of a game, more a demo of what the machine was capable of - mirrored balls and other weird shit - seriously cool for its day though :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-04-03 13:09:48] pingspike : but fuck yeah, i'd vote for an old skool loader :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-04-03 13:12:03] mr.vibez : yeah those demos were a little psychedelic!

[2018-04-03 13:28:29] spiteri.michael : How cool would it be to go back there with the knowledge we have now! I remember trying to copy games for the pc(an old xt or at) that had copy protection. Damn things! Think I figured out how to do it in the end, it was a long time ago!

[2018-04-03 13:29:46] spiteri.michael : 64k ram, 20mb hdd!!!! :joy:

[2018-04-03 15:13:19] ensjesse : Omg. Love my tello so much

[2018-04-03 15:13:20] ensjesse : So stable

[2018-04-03 15:13:49] ensjesse : After codes and using the app I picked it up at walmart for 71

[2018-04-03 23:24:08] ensjesse : I still have all of my Play Station demo discs.

[2018-04-04 10:20:50] mr.vibez : Guys, i'm currently using premier pro but find it a little buggy and slow at times. Has anyone moved from premier pro to resolve. Any regrets?

[2018-04-04 12:02:36] paulpaws : Yes I made the switch. But not play with it too much. I’m not expert but I believe it equal if not better then p pro.

[2018-04-04 12:03:27] mr.vibez : Seems a little more intuitive for editing, less clutter ect

[2018-04-04 12:03:38] mr.vibez : Colour grading looks more complicated though

[2018-04-04 12:18:20] paulpaws : Yes I haven’t play too much

[2018-04-04 12:18:30] paulpaws : Lots of tuts on YouTube

[2018-04-04 12:21:24] paulpaws : <https://youtu.be/h-WhyR-rfUk>

[2018-04-04 12:23:31] paulpaws : <https://youtu.be/z8OaHAQT1fA>

[2018-04-04 12:43:41] mr.vibez : Yeah just watched the crash course one this morning

[2018-04-04 12:45:50] kdsisepic : Hey does anyone here know how the spark measures it’s velocity like does it use purely gps data or does it do some sensor fusion using an estimate from the imu with the gps?

[2018-04-04 12:48:14] cs2000 : Dont know for sure, but the measurement is too fast for pure GPS, plus when you're in atti mode it still known your speed, so must be internally calculated using the IMU + others

[2018-04-04 12:49:05] cs2000 : Likely used GPS data if available however to make its measurements more accurate (why would you not), but like i say, an educated guess

[2018-04-04 14:06:54] kilrah : it can be derived/fused with the vision positioning system as well

[2018-04-04 14:09:19] ender : yup at low altitude…

[2018-04-04 18:15:30] kdsisepic : Thanks

[2018-04-04 21:35:30] ensjesse : Premiere was once slow but now runs like a beast

[2018-04-05 15:13:33] hello : Any one fly fixed wings with iNav on a FC? I was having a nice flight today, a few mins in, the plane decide to roll and spiral straight down motor running. No response to my stick inputs! Was in angle mode. Plane is trashed for now. AXN floater.

[2018-04-06 10:05:28] validat0r : smali question: can't i use v0,v1,v2,v3 registers as I see fit? why are they sometimes bound to a specific type?

[2018-04-06 11:25:00] paulpaws : Sorry at the game

[2018-04-06 12:48:40] bin4ry : What do you mean? Please make an example to underline your question

[2018-04-06 13:38:38] jcarlo : Anyone here rides electric skateboard?

[2018-04-06 13:39:03] jcarlo : Thinking about getting an Acton Blink S

[2018-04-06 14:05:24] jezzab : Anyone running a RAID0 on two SSDs? (I’m aware of the risks, it’s a non issue)

[2018-04-06 14:15:51] validat0r : @bin4ry have no current example .. atm it's some other shit I don't understand .. error msgs of java.lang.VerifyError make me nuts

[2018-04-06 14:17:36] validat0r : "cannot assess instance field someclassA a from object of type Reference: someclassB"

[2018-04-06 14:18:32] validat0r : error msg is depended of where I put the code snippet within a method ..

[2018-04-06 14:18:53] validat0r : call it a day now

[2018-04-06 14:19:18] jezzab : Calling the variable/class before it has a value?

[2018-04-06 14:22:41] validat0r : p0 is "this", right?

[2018-04-06 14:56:53] bin4ry : @ilovemynexus4 I think you use it like an high level language. Go back to the basics and read a bit about it. Here is a good start:

[2018-04-06 14:57:04] bin4ry : TypesMethodsAndFields · JesusFreke/smali Wiki <https://github.com/JesusFreke/smali/wiki/TypesMethodsAndFields>

[2018-04-06 14:59:07] bin4ry : Google documented Dex extremely well. You can refer to the android developer resources to get the Dex instructions and the mneomics

[2018-04-06 22:51:18] validat0r : @bin4ry ty. i thing i got it now :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-04-07 10:29:29] jezzab : Substantial gain over single SSD? I’m assuming both 6gbps ports

[2018-04-07 10:51:35] kilrah : Yeah that was about double speed, but then nothing compared to m.2 so pointless now

[2018-04-07 10:53:32] jezzab : Ah yeah. Current pc has m2 slot but new build is older LGA2011 Xeon dual E5-2690 so it’s a no go. Roll with the SSD raid then

[2018-04-07 10:54:16] jezzab : Thanks. I should have just pmd u. I knew you would have lol

[2018-04-07 10:55:57] kilrah : lol

[2018-04-07 10:56:13] kilrah : there are pcie m2 carriers now

[2018-04-07 10:56:28] kilrah : but the mobo may or may not support booting off that :confused:

[2018-04-07 10:56:59] jezzab : Hmmm Supermicro. I’m hoping so

[2018-04-07 10:58:04] jezzab : One more unknown to add to the damn list

[2018-04-07 10:58:21] kilrah : :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-04-11 04:26:33] jezzab : @jezzab uploaded a file: [roos.jpg](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U65113Z43/FA5NCQY3Z/roos.jpg)

[2018-04-13 07:15:48] d4rk0v3rl04d : firefox has had memory leaks since the days when it was called netscape navigator

[2018-04-14 08:10:47] ender : Every App with more then 100 line code has (apart from the ones in the API it uses) :wink:

[2018-04-14 20:57:56] mr.vibez : quick question regarding nd filters. If the nearest I can get to 0 ev is -2, does that mean I have too strong a filter on or not strong enough?

[2018-04-14 21:49:53] altkinx : Ugh my Mavic is in a tree

[2018-04-14 22:53:32] freddyk_1234 : @mr.vibez too strong.

[2018-04-14 23:46:31] lolo780 : @altkinx get the chainsaw

[2018-04-15 03:19:24] jezzab : Whoot! it boots with my custom bios hack job (added SLI support)

[2018-04-15 03:37:43] nocommie : ? Did you install ubuntu on your Mav?

[2018-04-15 04:34:32] ben_lin : Jezzab FC

[2018-04-15 04:34:43] ben_lin : 100% won’t crash upon take off

[2018-04-15 21:53:49] jcarlo : Nice. I remember the old ps3 that you can install Linux

[2018-04-16 15:45:31] kool.stout12 : Never heard of DroneDNA! <https://9to5mac.com/2018/04/16/apple-park-drone-videos/amp/>. What say, Fellas? Much respect for all you do.

[2018-04-17 16:43:37] mathieu.peyrega : Selling this : <https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Switch-10GbE-SFP-Arista-DCS-7124S-R/112942714806?hash=item1a4be90fb6:g:2MEAAOSweNta1Gm6> if someones interested...

[2018-04-18 01:58:46] hotelzululima : its time to field some crybabies around apples new facility btw with mag mounts and several drivers etc..

[2018-04-19 01:12:01] kool.stout12 : Interesting read <https://embedi.com/blog/dji-spark-hijacking/>

[2018-04-19 02:55:55] lolo780 : Funny they say the spark will fly away when connection is lost. Well sometimes that happens but sounds like they didn't se a low rth height.

[2018-04-19 08:49:21] haloweenhamster : @lowellfoo780 have you got a picture of your 4s mavic? I'm sure it was you saying it flies better on 4s

[2018-04-19 14:01:57] lolo780 : Hm... not sure. It doesn't look any different.

[2018-04-20 01:06:54] haloweenhamster : suppose, true

[2018-04-20 04:11:01] jezzab : you know its 'one of those days' ie Friday, when you realise you have 9 copies of Windows Calculator open.

[2018-04-20 04:14:26] nocommie : lol

[2018-04-20 04:15:17] nocommie : Could be worse. You could be looking all over the damn place for your cell phone and find it in the fridge

[2018-04-20 04:17:01] jezzab : Lost my keys once. Didnt have a spare (lucky i had 2 cars). Got new keys and found them a week later in the deep freezer

[2018-04-20 04:17:03] jezzab : oops

[2018-04-20 04:17:09] nocommie : lol

[2018-04-20 04:17:16] nocommie : I mean "cool"

[2018-04-20 04:17:19] jezzab : LOL

[2018-04-20 04:21:03] jezzab : I NEARLY said to a client today: "I dont have the time nor the crayons to explain this right now". Sooo close

[2018-04-20 04:21:26] jezzab : 2 hours till beer o'clock

[2018-04-20 04:22:14] jezzab : :pray:

[2018-04-20 06:49:14] 154326335 : 你们好

[2018-04-20 07:03:25] ender : @jezzab, did exactly that when i spoke to a group trying to explain image correction basics. German but translated “i dont have the time and you dont have the brains so lets stop here” :slightly_smiling_face: I nearly freaked out with that guy. But the others applauded as that guy was holding us up big time and i asked hin to read up a bit before attending such a class next time very friendly :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-04-20 07:04:51] ender : @154326335: thanks i am fine, how are you :wink:

[2018-04-20 07:08:34] jezzab : !beer

[2018-04-20 07:08:49] jezzab : *work your magic*

[2018-04-20 07:45:06] jezzab : <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fucktard>

[2018-04-20 15:44:27] hotelzululima : !pot

[2018-04-20 15:44:50] ender : !head

[2018-04-20 15:44:53] ender : :wink:

[2018-04-22 10:18:53] christianwoodward : Anyone live in Plattsburgh, New York, Hempstead, New York, lafayette LA, Fredericksburg VA, or frankfurt?

[2018-04-22 10:19:14] christianwoodward : need help with a super easy meatspace thing

[2018-04-22 11:42:38] bin4ry : @opcode ^—

[2018-04-25 17:27:41] ender : Hmmmm, something completely different… I browsed a few threads in rcgroups and elsewhere: Would you generally agree that charging LiPos ad moderate rate (e.g. 1C) has a very high efficiency like approx. 90% to 100% ? (between charger and LiPo NOT wall to LiPo) I am trying to estimate how “well” the HV LiPo of my newWIngsland S6 is and i try to judge how much it discharged by measuring how much i can charge it afterwards….

[2018-04-26 01:00:14] lolo780 : Yes, if the battery isn't getting warm, it should be very efficient

[2018-04-26 16:59:16] ender : thx!

[2018-04-27 07:41:43] jezzab : Arrest of a guy in 1988 in Sydney, Australia. He was doing runners on meals without paying. 56 times actually. I’d forgotten about it as I saw it as a kid. Need to watch it with the sound on :) <https://youtu.be/NbVJU1CuM0Q>

[2018-04-27 08:49:03] lolo780 : Dine n dash

[2018-04-27 08:50:56] jezzab : Yup

[2018-04-27 08:51:16] jezzab : Cracks me up. “Ahhhh You know your Judo well!”

[2018-04-27 08:51:47] jezzab : “Are you preparing to receive my limp penis?” Lmfao

[2018-04-27 08:52:18] jezzab : Gotta be the best arrest ever

[2018-04-27 08:53:22] lolo780 : Wow

[2018-04-27 08:53:30] lolo780 : Well spoken chap

[2018-04-27 08:59:39] jezzab : Haha yeah

[2018-04-27 09:08:32] jezzab : “Arrest me for eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?”

[2018-04-27 12:34:17] spiteri.michael : LOL

[2018-04-27 15:21:38] trollspeed : Local laws require new paper :) i have to get a paper saying that i'm not gonna use mavic air as a weapon or in war :)))))

[2018-04-28 02:59:48] 930175620 : could someone help make Go4.1.9 for P3 series （P3A），and force FCC i do myself but cant connect

[2018-04-28 22:56:47] nocommie : lol

[2018-04-29 22:58:08] czokie : @czokie uploaded a file: [Image uploaded from iOS](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U664ZEGUQ/FAETAMFT3/image_uploaded_from_ios.jpg)

[2018-04-30 13:47:50] ender : :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-04-30 18:37:00] jcarlo : You also need a mouse

[2018-04-30 19:01:35] mathieu.peyrega : and some system even have a watchdog :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-04-30 19:39:14] ender : And you can catch some worms while using them :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-04-30 19:39:42] ender : and WE are probably beating a dead horse btw :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-04-30 19:44:34] hans112 : :joy: :joy:

[2018-04-30 19:45:27] hans112 : Is that watchdog house-trained?

[2018-04-30 20:11:53] quad808 : Does it also have bugs?

[2018-05-01 01:17:15] bjoneseying : Is that true that the spark will go nuts if it someone deauthenticates the drone from the R?

[2018-05-01 01:17:20] bjoneseying : RC

[2018-05-01 08:29:39] validat0r : You mean it doesn't just rth?

[2018-05-01 08:48:42] cs2000 : A simple deauth should make it RTH (if that was the defined behaviour in Go4)

[2018-05-01 09:10:59] eseven : Yes, you have to ensure that Home Location is set, before u start to fly!! Otherwise, could take a wonderfull travelling-out video of you crying :grinning:

[2018-05-01 09:11:18] eseven : On wifi signal lost, not allways stay still..

[2018-05-02 07:57:32] ender : Guys, did any of you already receive a Oculus GO and tinker with it ? Questin is if there is Android underneath (99%?!) and if one could run Litchi or DJI GO on it. Would be neat…

[2018-05-02 12:28:27] ender : And yet another completely different thing… To all you password breakers :slightly_smiling_face: I bought a dirt cheap Wingsland S6 Micro Drone. HW Specs are great, FW & App are extremely underwhelming :slightly_smiling_face: It seems to have telnet open but of course i have no idea of user / password. Any recommendations on how to start getting “in there” ? Is there an idiots guide to guessing user/pass for telnet ? :wink:

[2018-05-02 12:40:38] jezzab : Try and get the passwd/shadow file but you usually need shell to get it. Unless you can get it’s via ftp. Chicken/egg

[2018-05-02 12:42:01] jezzab : Then smash it with hashcat

[2018-05-02 12:43:19] jezzab : Or try and find existing exploits etc

[2018-05-02 12:44:25] grcoder : I don't think that it's possible to grab shadow file. Usually it's not readable. Only if he get shell and try a root exploit

[2018-05-02 12:44:37] jezzab : I said that

[2018-05-02 12:45:34] grcoder : yes. even if he takes it, it may be impossible to crack it. except if he has strong gpu and a good list

[2018-05-02 12:45:44] jezzab : Anyway your up for a challenge @ender

[2018-05-02 12:46:02] jezzab : I was going to offer a day on mine

[2018-05-02 12:46:13] ender : :wink:

[2018-05-02 12:46:46] jezzab : 2 x 1070ti. 6000KH/sec on passwd file hashes. Nothing spectacular but might help

[2018-05-02 12:47:11] ender : i just got rid of my last rig :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-05-02 12:47:58] grcoder : u were mining ETH?

[2018-05-02 12:48:02] ender : yup

[2018-05-02 12:48:05] jezzab : Nah

[2018-05-02 12:48:07] ender : i felt the time has come :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-05-02 12:48:14] jezzab : Oh ender lol

[2018-05-02 12:48:19] ender : or you ? :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-05-02 12:48:46] grcoder : Eth may change to PoS soon so it's good u sold it.

[2018-05-02 12:48:58] ender : i was just fooling around, no serious money involved. got out with 3k Euro profit…

[2018-05-02 12:49:45] grcoder : also bitmain has created ASIC for Eth so those gpu cards may be worthless in the future for mining eth

[2018-05-02 12:49:56] ender : uh bad news for eth guys…

[2018-05-02 12:50:17] ender : i had 25 1060 & 1070 mixed in 4 rigs…

[2018-05-02 12:50:46] ender : Was fun, i also wrote a small Android app to alert me if anything (temp/power/hashes) went weird…

[2018-05-02 12:51:12] grcoder : i was never a miner but those who were before 2-3 years made good profit.

[2018-05-02 12:51:13] ender : made more money from dealing with GPU’s then from actual mining though :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-05-02 12:51:25] ender : yes i was waaayyyy too late, just out of curiousity.

[2018-05-02 12:52:13] ender : At one time i had 5 x 1060 at hand as i was helping friends to set up some gaming machines so i let them mine while we waited for other parts.

[2018-05-02 12:52:26] ender : I realized how easy it is so i bought cheap & used cards.

[2018-05-02 12:52:35] ender : sold for much more, most in March

[2018-05-03 21:32:20] kelleytaylormaibaum : Anyone here know if the 30 device limit for TestFlight on this page is a hard limit? Or does Apple allow you to submit a request for more seats/testers? <https://developer.apple.com/testflight/testers/>

[2018-05-04 18:08:19] pawel.smile : Have any of you tried to calculate the wind speed based on the rpm, gps speed, aircraft angle? I think this is possible

[2018-05-04 18:39:28] lolo780 : ATTI mode is a great way to check wind speed and direction

[2018-05-04 18:55:43] kool.stout12 : Why didn't FBI knock them down with towels or something? :thinking_face: <https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2018/05/criminal-gang-used-drone-swarm-obstruct-fbi-raid/147956/>

[2018-05-04 22:09:14] jcarlo : Yuneec Breeze

[2018-05-04 23:21:49] kool.stout12 : Probably a stock pic, it's all top secret what they were, other than consumer drones. Why, the secrecy? Saving face?

[2018-05-05 00:07:47] lolo780 : Tiny whoops

[2018-05-05 01:40:43] kool.stout12 : Them things are killers, No wonder! :wink:

[2018-05-05 07:33:54] ender : I bet they used that ole battleship cheerson stars-d eagle !!! May god help them… :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-05-05 19:36:19] jcarlo : Cobra Kai!

[2018-05-05 19:36:31] jcarlo : Watching it right now

[2018-05-07 08:43:28] jezzab : I dont think even a super computer could handle Facebook being open for a few hours. Always ends in a grinding halt, close and reload

[2018-05-08 12:15:24] dan5000 : Visiting the states (california specifically). Thinking of taking Mavic - will that find my in jail or are things relaxed as long as you’re not over military/airports/etc?

[2018-05-08 15:45:10] andrwho25 : @dan5000: it should be fine. I think jail maybe if you’re near military/airports. But if you fly over NFZ such as parks and such you could be met with a hefty fine

[2018-05-08 15:46:35] dan5000 : That’s good to know. I assumed parks would be allowable!

[2018-05-08 15:56:36] nocommie : Depends on the parks. Federal are not allowed. My local (city parks) are ok as long as you do not fly over people. My biggest piece of advice is to try to avoid flying around or over people and if someone approaches you irritated, apologize, packup and go. And technically you are required to register. <http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2016/06/20/faa-non-citizen-registration/>

[2018-05-08 15:57:38] nocommie : And also check for local and state laws. There are some states/citys etc that have other prohibited locations.

[2018-05-08 15:59:17] andrwho25 : Yep, most national parks are off limits

[2018-05-08 17:06:25] quad808 : But....you can legally take off from outside the park, on private land and fly over the park. Not that I would do such a thing....:face_with_rolling_eyes:

[2018-05-08 17:06:44] quad808 : but then again, what do I know

[2018-05-08 17:07:43] quad808 : I happen to live in a place where you get tazzed for flying a toy drone...

[2018-05-08 17:08:22] quad808 : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3D_06mMvg8>

[2018-05-08 17:52:12] nocommie : lol

[2018-05-08 17:52:36] nocommie : Done taze me bro! Then dont drone bro!

[2018-05-10 11:18:20] validat0r : oh i hate slack and its vanishing backlog

[2018-05-10 17:56:10] kdsisepic : Probably asked before but did anyone try a mitm style attack to try to capture the login credentials for the spark

[2018-05-10 17:56:34] validat0r : what credentials?

[2018-05-10 18:20:38] kdsisepic : It has an open ftp port on its WiFi network

[2018-05-10 18:23:49] validat0r : try root / <empty pwd>

[2018-05-10 18:25:42] validat0r : but rooting via dumlracer and adb shell gives you more insights

[2018-05-10 18:26:21] validat0r : let's go to ~spark

[2018-05-12 20:23:50] mr.vibez : Still trying to wrap my head around panoramas. I am using 5 AEB RAW and have merged using lightroom. Now, it is best to pick a single image, colour correct it and sync the settings across all the merged hdr images, or is it better to export all to a tiff, stitch in PTGui and then re-import into lightroom for color correction? The problem I see if that if I stitch in PTGui 1st, I lose the flexibility of RAW. If I develop in LR 1st, then it's hard to get a good color grade due to working with a single reference image. Any ideas?

[2018-05-13 03:42:38] ben_lin : depending what kind of pano u took…

[2018-05-13 03:43:26] ben_lin : If you took a normal wide angle, then u can stitch in ps first and then do color correction

[2018-05-13 06:29:06] mr.vibez : 360, LR doesn't like to stitch those

[2018-05-13 07:50:34] mathieu.peyrega : efficient coding by DJI...

[2018-05-13 08:17:33] kilrah : I stitch all in LR so I can find good develop settings, then copy that to the individual images, export and load that in whatever 360 stitching software I want to use.

[2018-05-13 08:38:51] kilrah : it "can"

[2018-05-13 08:39:34] kilrah : the stitching line isn't 360 aware, but apart from that it will merge just fine

[2018-05-13 08:39:44] kilrah : which is good enough to figure out the develop settings then discard

[2018-05-13 08:41:29] mr.vibez : Let me post what it looks like

[2018-05-13 08:41:34] mr.vibez : one minute

[2018-05-13 08:47:29] mr.vibez : So, once I have developed that merged photo, do I sync the settings or copy paste the settings. Not sure what the difference is to be honest.

[2018-05-13 09:02:45] kilrah : I copy/paste

[2018-05-13 09:03:15] mr.vibez : sounds good

[2018-05-13 09:03:19] mr.vibez : thanks

[2018-05-14 13:55:23] pawel.smile : Im trying to use dji mobile SDK to read gyro parameters so that I can measure the aircraft angle inclination, but there are no binding to read that. Anyone tried it before? I cannot ask this quesion on dji dev forum, because the cookies are fucked up there and its impossible to ask question

[2018-05-15 15:34:49] mr.vibez : When shooting bracketed AEB panoramas, do you set exposure to auto / manual / or doesn't it matter?

[2018-05-16 07:00:47] kilrah : i don't bracket them, never found a need for it.

[2018-05-16 11:01:11] w4t3r : @kilrah when shooting against the sun if you don't want anything to overexpose, and still want noise free shadows

[2018-05-16 11:04:36] w4t3r : @mr.vibez I used hugin/ptgui previously, but I figured microsoft ICE does it good enough without fucking up the preedited pictures too much, and it is way faster. I usually edit one picture where there's sky and earth on the same picture, then sync it to the other images, then export, ICE, and then I fix the size (2:1) in photoshop by adding a sky or black and do some final touches with the camera raw plugin

[2018-05-16 11:41:15] kilrah : I expose so as not to blow out the highlights, and from RAW given the humongous output resolution of stitched panos any added noise from boosting the shadows a bit is negligible to me.

[2018-05-16 14:51:49] mr.vibez : Thanks people

[2018-05-16 18:49:01] w4t3r : @kilrah do you have a p4p? Because I'm in love with every pixel I can squeeze out of my mavic

[2018-05-16 19:00:42] w4t3r : <https://vps.natur-kultur.eu/pano1/>

[2018-05-16 19:19:03] quad808 : Guys...check this out and tell me what you think...

[2018-05-16 19:20:04] ben_lin : But first tell me how u did it

[2018-05-16 19:20:10] ben_lin : It looks not bad

[2018-05-16 19:20:32] ben_lin : Probably need to fix the lens distortion

[2018-05-16 19:24:51] quad808 : not looking for perfection at all...just took manual shots for the pano...lots of them. I should have rotated the camera for a wider shot. Ran it through ICE

[2018-05-16 19:25:33] quad808 : I left exposure on auto....just took a lot of shots, so exposure between shots would be minimal and gradual from sun to shade, sort of like HDR

[2018-05-16 19:27:05] quad808 : I updated the firmware on the Mavic, and tried the auto panorama...it sucked. Went back to .0700 where it will stay.

[2018-05-19 07:55:47] dan5000 : anyone have experience of using MavicZBreak on Mac? Is it a good replacement for NLD?

[2018-05-19 07:55:56] dan5000 : *MavicBreak sorry

[2018-05-19 07:58:40] dan5000 : *DroneZBreak doh :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-05-19 12:35:08] kilrah : hasn't been maintained so is kinda outdated, and some stuff even doesn't work at all anymore.

[2018-05-21 08:02:20] cs2000 : Shame, was pretty useful back in the day, dont even know who originally made it

[2018-05-21 21:36:37] rabdouhl : <http://i.imgur.com/jE68kCh.gif>

[2018-05-22 19:25:01] mail451 : Those on Linux, is there an api/program that replaces DJI Assistant?

[2018-05-22 19:45:31] hans112 : What do you want to use it for ?

[2018-05-23 00:04:44] yingd : !apk [object Object]

[2018-05-23 07:19:11] mail451 : @hans112 for updating the firmware and changing parameters

[2018-05-23 07:38:05] hans112 : <https://dji.retroroms.info/howto/pyduml>

[2018-05-23 08:21:58] jezzab : Or with ruby you can flash firmware, edit params etc <https://github.com/jan2642/DUMLrub>

[2018-05-23 08:25:11] ender : Is the current state of the MA FW .400 still that it can NOT be downgraded or did i miss something and it CAN be downgraded ?! (Looking at NLD where it LOOKS like it can be downgraded).

[2018-05-23 08:25:39] kilrah : can not be downgraded

[2018-05-23 08:26:01] ender : k, thx for confirmation !

[2018-05-23 08:26:58] ender : So NLD maybe should not “sound” like it can be downgraded to not trick ppl into playing with .400 …

[2018-05-23 08:32:39] jezzab : Where does it say it can be downgraded with NLD @ender?

[2018-05-23 08:33:25] jezzab : NLD doesnt have Mavic Air flashing support yet

[2018-05-23 08:33:32] coldflake : Firmware flashing is currently not available in NLD for MA

[2018-05-23 08:33:40] ender : it does not say so explicitly. It just lists & treats.400 as any other FW. IMHO a warning sign or message would be fine for the “naive” user if trying to upgrade to .400.

[2018-05-23 08:33:57] ender : I did not do it coldflake, i just wondered, no big fuzz.

[2018-05-23 08:34:10] ender : SO if its not implemented right now no harm can be done :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-05-23 08:34:12] coldflake : Did it show any firmwares?

[2018-05-23 08:34:32] ender : wait, will try again asap as someone nice gave me an activation code :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-05-23 08:34:32] kilrah : @kilrah uploaded a file: [Clipboard01.png](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U600SGWBS/FAUCG98LU/clipboard01.png)

[2018-05-23 08:34:39] ender : YEP

[2018-05-23 08:34:41] coldflake : :)

[2018-05-23 08:34:50] coldflake : Oh

[2018-05-23 08:34:51] ender : that was exactly the thing that threw me off.

[2018-05-23 08:35:06] coldflake : I thought you ment in the nld app itself

[2018-05-23 08:35:17] coldflake : But yeah, that is not good and definitely a mistake

[2018-05-23 08:35:17] ender : well in the NLD universe i meant :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-05-23 08:35:20] jezzab : Yes that should definitely be changed and the NLD Go App support ASAP

[2018-05-23 08:35:28] coldflake : Yes exactly

[2018-05-23 08:35:53] coldflake : I guess David were a little "too fast" when he updated the bird map

[2018-05-23 08:36:04] jezzab : Cut and Paste will do that :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-05-23 08:36:14] coldflake : Yeah lol

[2018-05-23 08:36:48] jezzab : But then again is the bird map just for NLD or is it "in general"

[2018-05-23 08:37:07] kilrah : dunno who decides on that but the stupid "omg you can't believe what you're gonna see" and "with NLD you can do anything with everything!!1!ONE!" announcements on the forums have been pissing me off

[2018-05-23 08:37:19] kilrah : especially when wrong

[2018-05-23 08:37:47] jezzab : @quad808 gets very excited

[2018-05-23 08:39:31] coldflake : The birdmap is for nld but also apply in general

[2018-05-23 08:39:43] coldflake : As of now at least

[2018-05-23 08:40:11] coldflake : Do you have a link @kilrah for a specific post?

[2018-05-23 08:41:51] kilrah : <https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=39647102&postcount=5581> that kind of thing, jsut sounds stupid

[2018-05-23 08:42:20] kilrah : <https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=39669928&postcount=5596> that "omitted" to say it was only "for SUPPORTED BIRDS on SUPPORTED FIRMWARE", was added later in the post but info still around

[2018-05-23 08:42:26] ender : Well for my part i posted a correction in my home forum to still stay away from the non-downgradable .400 :wink: (German language)

[2018-05-23 08:44:18] coldflake : Thnx @kilrah, I will have to take the blame for the "on all firmwares" part

[2018-05-23 08:44:39] coldflake : @jezzab already spanked me with it lol

[2018-05-23 08:45:07] kilrah : :smile:

[2018-05-23 08:45:38] coldflake : I only do the click bait on the nld website lol

[2018-05-23 11:02:38] trollspeed : Khm, looking and NLD site i've updated to 400 version on air :/

[2018-05-23 11:06:30] ender : uhhh

[2018-05-26 19:50:01] chipmangini : WTF! <http://autonomousweapons.org/slaughterbots/>

[2018-05-26 23:53:13] lolo780 : Ban leghold traps

[2018-05-26 23:54:09] quad808 : I want my own swarm

[2018-05-26 23:54:26] quad808 : with no limits, like you know who

[2018-05-31 16:38:00] hello : Hi guys, i wanted to reach out to any PC builders on here for some advice if possible - I got a 8700k, and a dark rock 4 cooler. Issue is, there is some play once it's seated, slight side to side twist play. doesn't feel right to me. Idle temps are 25-35, under load 80-85 and it seems has all cores are around the same temp. Thinking of returning the damn thing! Should they be absolutely still?

[2018-05-31 17:17:11] quad808 : The cooler should be tight, but not over tight and not move. You need solid contact with the CPU, otherwise heat transfer will not be optimal

[2018-05-31 17:18:39] quad808 : tighten screws in diagonal pattern on the cooler

[2018-05-31 17:21:29] quad808 : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=103&v=5pLbEQ3T-iU>

[2018-05-31 17:22:02] quad808 : holy cooler batman...that thing is yuuuuge! Just follow the video to tighten. @hello

[2018-05-31 17:27:30] hello : Yea, it's a full on tower size! But luckily my case is pretty roomy. installation is actually piss easy, Ive followed their instructions to a T and the vids online... tightened as much as I can but still get side to side action. I uploaded a short clip to demo what I mean:- <https://we.tl/Z8ql9Qag36> Thanks @quad808 I think I might try another and just see if I can send this back to Amazon

[2018-05-31 17:30:41] quad808 : yah, that is too loose in my opinion...not making solid contact with the CPU

[2018-05-31 17:31:54] quad808 : possible to install a washer under the screw? If it is tighened all the way down?

[2018-05-31 17:32:31] hello : Oh my god, @quad808 that video actually differs from the instructions they provide...what he does with the little o rings is put them on the back on the mobo. In the printed instructions im sure they show them around the front. Im gonna re-seat it again. Thanks for sending me that particular clip lz dude :+1:

[2018-05-31 17:32:59] quad808 : Good thing your cpu didn't burn up...LOL

[2018-05-31 17:33:35] hello : Yea I ran prime for 2 mins and it was pushing past 80c lol I stopped quick

[2018-05-31 17:33:48] quad808 : I used to use vapochills...sub zero temps...burned up quite a few cpu's in the day

[2018-05-31 17:34:36] quad808 : now I just use Corsair water coolers...silent and great all in one solutions

[2018-05-31 17:34:52] quad808 : keeps temps at bay nicely

[2018-05-31 17:36:03] quad808 : <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZN2NH6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1>

[2018-05-31 17:41:58] hello : When I first bought my case (Corsair 600T) back in 2013, I think I originally bought that model of AIO cooler...but I had some troubles fitting it, the fan / grill part...so ended up returning. Now I've got this coming as a potential replacement for this dark rock:- Corsair Hydro H60 Liquid CPU Cooler - Black <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B079NXZQBC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_7odeBbF43544C>

[2018-05-31 17:45:47] quad808 : I really like the Corsair line. Good quality, and not so bad pricing for what you get. If your case has room, get the bigger one, OR you can use this one and mount 2 fans on it...one push, the other pull for more airflow. Of course it depends on what kind of work you do with it....you may not need the extra cooling. I mount 4 fans on mine, push pull configuration.

[2018-05-31 17:58:46] hello : Agreed, I think they do some really well made products for the price. That's a great idea @ fan on the outside. I doubt I'll be overclocking right now, just lots of Pemiere Pro and AE, rendering and working with 4K footage from the phantom

[2018-05-31 18:48:24] mr.vibez : Any advice on stitching top down photos? I'm currently using lightroom, is there anything else that can do this? Not interested in drone deploy

[2018-05-31 19:15:26] hello : Microsoft ICE! works well sometimes, and it's free. Always helps.

[2018-05-31 19:16:26] mr.vibez : Looking to stitch raw, I don't think it supports it fully

[2018-05-31 20:04:40] hello : Really? Im pretty sure it supports DNG'S.

[2018-05-31 20:06:50] hello : I usually image Correct in lightroom from my DNG'S, export to 100 percent quality JPEGs, process with ICE, save the panos either as a PSD (to further fix a few things and size for Facebook).

[2018-05-31 20:19:35] mr.vibez : I don't want to colour correct until after i've stitched otherwise it looks messy

[2018-05-31 20:19:44] mr.vibez : DNGs in ICE look blocky

[2018-05-31 21:22:47] hello : Try ptgui. There's a cost, but it's the best.

[2018-05-31 23:07:16] hello : @quad808 appreciate your help dude and direction to that video, I re-seated the heatsink, and no there is no longer such movement. Seems solid. Cheers! Now I need to vacuum out the case and put everything in nicely, and test. Tomorrow though.

[2018-05-31 23:12:14] quad808 : Wahoooo! Good job...test, and I bet temps will go way down now. Thats a killer cooler!

[2018-05-31 23:34:20] jakub : @hello don't use vacuum near small-electronic parts

[2018-05-31 23:44:36] quad808 : @jakub good point. I fried a video card once doing that...blue spark and all...that sucked, cause I had just sold the PC and had to run out and get a new video card pronto!

[2018-06-01 00:02:23] jezzab : Goddamn! i though my coolers were big lol

[2018-06-01 00:02:29] jezzab : Thats Big Bertha

[2018-06-01 00:06:04] jezzab : @jezzab uploaded a file: [20180601_100329.jpg](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U65113Z43/FAZS3HY05/20180601_100329.jpg)

[2018-06-01 00:06:35] jezzab : They are 189mm high. How high is that damn Big Bertha??? it looks huge (pretty too!)

[2018-06-01 00:15:22] jakub : softcore por... build here <https://i.imgur.com/sYVQHKN.jpg> <https://i.imgur.com/ELTBlmU.jpg> <https://i.imgur.com/WWOZJ3v.jpg>

[2018-06-01 00:16:51] jakub : also this thing is great... <https://espares24.com/data/gfx/pictures/large/2/9/3592_4.jpg?87136> ordered like.. 20 of those (one is 1m)

[2018-06-01 00:16:56] jezzab : Very nice

[2018-06-01 00:17:15] jakub : yep, I'm very happy with this case, so much space inside

[2018-06-01 00:18:13] jezzab : I had to use this

[2018-06-01 00:18:14] jezzab : <https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Graphite-Series%E2%84%A2-780T-Full-Tower-PC-Case/p/CC-9011063-WW>

[2018-06-01 00:18:38] jakub : too fancy for me :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-06-01 00:18:39] jezzab : its a shit show inside because of the mobos connectors are all nearly opposite (Supermicro EE-ATX)

[2018-06-01 00:19:11] jezzab : It started nice and clean until I had to plug the PSU in lmao

[2018-06-01 00:19:17] jezzab : Went down hill from there

[2018-06-01 00:19:32] jezzab : had to drill 2 new stand offs for a start

[2018-06-01 00:19:37] jakub : this case I have is silenced from 4 sides (top,left,right,front) instead plastic window to watch something that doesn't change

[2018-06-01 00:19:58] jakub : oh

[2018-06-01 00:20:16] jakub : yeah mods to mobo are mostly needed, had make few of them in last case... this one had all things I hate solved :smile:

[2018-06-01 00:20:40] jezzab : If its was just E-ATX I would have had heaps of options

[2018-06-01 00:20:48] quad808 : @jakub Nice clean case!

[2018-06-01 00:21:03] jakub : @quad808 most of Fractal Design cases are like that I can highly recommend them :wink:

[2018-06-01 00:22:28] jakub : side thingie... I hope this will work just fine <http://www.yesojo.com/dongle> needed something smaller for nintendo switch <> hdmi connection to take it to friends etc

[2018-06-01 00:22:38] jakub : maybe someone have any knowledge in this area?

[2018-06-01 00:45:15] hello : @jezzab the pro version of this, is even bigger/wider! With a fan in the middle. It's too much for me, Even this came out bigger than I imagined. I guess it may give a little headroom later on down the line if I bump up clock speeds. It's been a while since I was messed around with desktop PCs. Up until recently, always on a work laptop.

[2018-06-01 06:22:33] jackjay : Is there a way to find out the ram,memory, os, etc of the Mavic Pro?

[2018-06-01 06:23:09] jezzab : root in and check `kernel00.log`

[2018-06-01 06:23:20] jezzab : Its Android KitKat

[2018-06-01 06:29:35] jackjay : Oke, Thanks!

[2018-06-01 11:05:17] hello : Guys, im sorry if this isn't allowed to be posted on here. I thought random might be the safest place. I've been shortlisted in an online photography competition. Please help me out by voting for my image of Big Ben, so I win more toys to play with. I'm Option 3! <https://blog.borrowfox.com/london-through-a-lens-photography-competition/> Vote if you like it! Ps this is the image-:

[2018-06-01 11:25:53] hello : <https://bit.ly/2J1ON1s>

[2018-06-01 11:34:34] ender : That IS a great Shot. I am in for a vote!

[2018-06-01 11:39:48] hello : @ender really appreciate that, thank you for the vote and the kind words! :pray:

[2018-06-01 17:56:25] quad808 : @hello great shot!

[2018-06-01 17:58:56] hello : @quad808 thank you!

[2018-06-01 20:31:42] chipmangini : <http://time.com/5294789/time-drone-cover-video/>

[2018-06-01 21:19:27] quad808 : They would have used DJI drones, but they couldn't take off because of the wrongly sized NFZ.

[2018-06-01 21:23:26] chipmangini : @quad808 and they wouldn't go over 500'....

[2018-06-01 21:25:19] quad808 : oh wait. Sorry, my bad. They were Sparks on 01.00.0300 firmware and they were all GROUNDED BY DJI until a forced firmware was done. (something they NEVER said they would do)

[2018-06-07 19:55:00] jakub : <http://imgur.com/ZhzshRF> lol

[2018-06-08 02:35:57] spiteri.michael : What a legend!!

[2018-06-08 02:43:14] spiteri.michael : pack one for a mate and send it on a waypoint mission!!

[2018-06-09 18:13:01] joerg.felser : Hi guys, is there any possibility to extend the max flight altitude to over 500m?

[2018-06-09 18:13:47] joerg.felser : I'd Love to fly up to a mountain, beeing not over 500m flight height, but over 500m over my starting point :( :/

[2018-06-09 18:15:01] joerg.felser : Any ideas or possibilities to trick that restriction?

[2018-06-09 19:06:21] weprul0r : You need to downgrade firmware to 1.03.0900 or lower - after that you can remove that limit (just set it to the value you want).

[2018-06-09 19:07:21] weprul0r : just have a look at the !wiki

[2018-06-09 19:11:05] weprul0r : There is also a good video howto from @digdat0 available: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ymVQ05zzL4>

[2018-06-09 19:54:59] joerg.felser : I have the latest firmware, is that downgradeable easily?

[2018-06-09 19:55:18] joerg.felser : (mavic air)

[2018-06-09 20:02:00] mr.vibez : no

[2018-06-10 08:27:09] joerg.felser : So im currently without any possibility with the mavic air?

[2018-06-10 09:09:49] jezzab : If u are on the latest firmware on Mavic Air you cannot downgrade at this time

[2018-06-12 03:52:49] jezzab : Enable Remote Access on my R7000 Netgear so "you can use Google Home to ask what your wifi settings are or reboot the router with voice commands" Yeah nah thanks

[2018-06-12 10:26:32] trollspeed : <https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6J1zbAuQtg&feature=youtu.be>

[2018-06-12 11:21:39] ender : @joerg.felser: you cant downgrade but you can still change flight parameters, either mnaual with old DJI Assistant or more comfortable “point and click” via nolimitdronez NLD, see the birdmap: <https://nolimitdronez.com/birdmap>

[2018-06-13 16:48:35] t3rm1 : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72OhmRGrLLE>

[2018-06-13 16:53:08] quad808 : perfect.

[2018-06-13 17:46:27] ender : Gotta love forced autoland :slightly_smiling_face: I bet there would’ve been 1 more minute in the battery :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-06-13 22:17:02] jezzab : Like a boss

[2018-06-14 08:07:53] dan5000 : anything to avoid drones literally falling out of the sky

[2018-06-14 08:12:15] jezzab : Make sure the battery is clipped right in, check your props are attached correctly and for cracks/splits/anything strange (a prop is cheap compared to the cost of a drone), dont hit a bird

[2018-06-14 08:22:37] lolo780 : <http://www.extremelysmart.com/humor/howtofly.php>

[2018-06-14 08:34:35] ender : Most important (and hardest to do): Don’t be stupid

[2018-06-15 14:53:58] tvron321 : Huston we got a problem!! DEEJAYEYE MODDER works just fine however the maps are very low resoultion so bad that they are not useable and I dont have a clue as to why.. Anynoe have any ideas.. Thanls Ron.

[2018-06-15 15:09:40] tvron321 : The APK is ver 4.1.22 when running the deejayeye mod the maps are not good however google maps stand alone are clear and crisp.

[2018-06-16 11:24:59] erwin : Anyone here migrated from dji drones to custom fpv racing ones? I am really interested on a entry level one like x220s eachine with rg01 goggles but I am not sure how hard is the transition

[2018-06-16 13:09:01] paulpaws : They are so much fun . Different to flying dji drones. Many fly in acro / rate mode with is fully manual

[2018-06-16 13:14:20] paulpaws : Not to sure about the x220 eachine. Take a look at the emax hawk 5 FPV. Really good racing for drone and get for acro flying.

[2018-06-16 13:19:27] paulpaws : Goggles I would look at FatShark google too. Transition for dji to fpv racing drone. Depends on how quick your are at learning to fly as these drones don’t tend to the gps hold/lock and are designed to be alway flying and moving like a plane. Rather that’s hover and sky park like the dji drones do.

[2018-06-17 12:04:00] erwin : I like that the x220s comes with the transmitter (FS-i6X) and everything ready for quite cheap :confused: I am not in the hobby so I do not have any hardware yet for fpv/rc

[2018-06-17 12:04:41] erwin : the emax you recommend + the fatshark goggles go quite pricey

[2018-06-17 21:56:46] algunasvecas : What price point? Check out rcgroups. You can find pretty cheap tinywhoop setups. Won’t lose any fingers. :flushed:

[2018-06-17 21:57:37] doubleohasian : I've got a tiny whoop lying around I don't fly anymore

[2018-06-17 21:58:09] doubleohasian : as well as a 250 a couple 3" and a 13:1 thrust to weight 6" I use for heavy lifting.

[2018-06-17 21:59:30] doubleohasian : Sold my fatsharks, I regret that.

[2018-06-17 22:07:26] algunasvecas : Like a bag of potato chips. Bet you can’t eat just one.

[2018-06-18 08:49:42] erwin : @algunasvecas the pricepoint for the x220s (w/2 lipos) + fsi6x transmitter + rg01 googles is like 350 USD from banggood, but fatshark + emax hawk5 is like 600-700 USD

[2018-06-18 09:01:44] erwin : then I need to train a lot to get something like <https://youtu.be/nQDcDZ6rmGE?t=106> :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-06-20 14:21:51] paulpaws : Emax comes with vtx too and ready to go. You just need the other stuff like goggle. You don’t need to get FatShark you can get others. You need a radio too. Most fpv pilots uses the frsky radios

[2018-06-28 01:49:08] paulpaws : yes very :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-07-04 04:19:02] algunasvecas : Anything special about matrice 100? Is it treated the same as p3, I1?

[2018-07-04 13:52:05] doubleohasian : <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44708663>

[2018-07-04 23:45:09] aciid : <https://i.imgur.com/9o51XMY.png> making a nightcapable mavic :3

[2018-07-05 14:22:55] ender : Hehe, added one of those (well tbh similar light specs, not identical) to my Bebop 1, my “Frankenbop” that had no camera anymore. Was fun flying it with Analog FPV :wink:

[2018-07-05 15:30:11] aciid : just ordered this set, gonna be fun when it arrives :smiley:

[2018-07-09 11:48:27] kdsisepic : Anyone here use a 4hawks raptor xr for their spark

[2018-07-09 16:52:41] mathieu.peyrega : next Mavic Pro 2 engines still under testing : <http://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2018/06/P120C_awaits_first_hot_firing>

[2018-07-10 12:06:01] fredmicrowave : Hovering will be hard to control with solid fuel ha...

[2018-07-10 12:36:01] ls7454 : config_do_not_blow_up_on_take_off = 1

[2018-07-10 12:38:57] validat0r : sounds legit

[2018-07-10 14:19:40] fredmicrowave : progressive_combustion_mode = 1

[2018-07-10 19:48:01] quad808 : @kool.stout12 really interested in your thoughts between the two...I like the Evo

[2018-07-10 19:48:26] kool.stout12 : You have one?

[2018-07-10 19:48:29] quad808 : the camera looks better than the mavic

[2018-07-10 19:49:00] quad808 : nope, just two Mavics

[2018-07-10 19:49:13] quad808 : doing research now on next drone

[2018-07-10 19:51:22] tomgardner44 : Is there an altitude limit on the EVO?

[2018-07-10 19:52:02] kool.stout12 : I flew without filters with EV set to -3 not expecting much, to get ISO 100 shutter 1/60 I was pleasantly surprised.

[2018-07-10 19:53:05] kool.stout12 : Tommy Boy, I think something like 2600 ft. Not sure, Just got it

[2018-07-10 19:54:02] quad808 : crap....I HATE LIMITS

[2018-07-10 19:54:42] quad808 : I want to be responsible for my flights and actions...sheesh

[2018-07-10 19:56:18] kool.stout12 : Sorry to hit and run... Gotta get back on the road to town. I will post a link to a video without any post processing, just the edited clip. When home in awhile.

[2018-07-10 19:57:09] quad808 : thanks

[2018-07-10 20:28:43] mr.vibez : I thought the evo was trash?

[2018-07-10 20:28:48] mr.vibez : Too many bugs

[2018-07-10 20:33:46] kool.stout12 : @quad808 I will post to MCP

[2018-07-10 21:17:37] hamkypanky : @kool.stout12 If you could double check also if there is a limit of altitude on the Evo as well. Thanks!

[2018-07-10 23:16:34] kool.stout12 : Probably DJI SPY, LOL :laughing:

[2018-07-10 23:18:25] kool.stout12 : @hamkypanky 2500 feet for sure. Spoke to Autel Support and NO NFZ

[2018-07-10 23:24:27] kool.stout12 : @quad808 the waypoints has undocumented offline mode where like Litchi you can setup at home and save. The waypoint feature currently does not support gradual altitude climb and descent between waypoints. It climbs then goes.

[2018-07-10 23:27:40] kool.stout12 : @quad808 After flying an entire battery on the EVO, I switched to Mavic pro and somehow it just felt a little cheap.....:thinking_face:

[2018-07-10 23:28:11] quad808 : The EVO or the Mavic?

[2018-07-11 00:12:56] kool.stout12 : Mavic, LOL

[2018-07-11 00:17:19] kool.stout12 : I posted the link on MCP, and come to think of it, my Premiere Elements 15 has motion blur on as default. Mmm..

[2018-07-11 10:17:55] aciid : fricking DHL have to wait for the courier grounded at home

[2018-07-11 10:18:00] aciid : has not even called me yet

[2018-07-11 10:18:09] aciid : should be getting a full gimbal set by today

[2018-07-11 10:18:17] aciid : my bird is grounded ;_;

[2018-07-11 10:18:25] aciid : and porobaly bricked

[2018-07-11 10:47:15] aciid : did someone break [parrot.com](http://parrot.com)

[2018-07-11 10:50:17] ender : HOSTILE :wink:

[2018-07-11 10:50:23] ender : or DeeJayEye :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-07-11 10:50:37] aciid : my gimbal arrived

[2018-07-11 10:50:46] ender : Thats something at least :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-07-11 10:50:59] aciid : anxious as fuck

[2018-07-11 10:51:47] aciid : looks ok

[2018-07-11 10:51:54] aciid : has testing labels on

[2018-07-11 10:52:33] ender : [Parrot.com](http://Parrot.com) works again

[2018-07-11 10:54:43] aciid : <https://twitter.com/AciidXOR/status/1016999148682432512>

[2018-07-11 10:55:33] ender : Right NOW they are on at Amazon again, delivery tomorrow or the day after. They got 3 pieces again :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-07-11 10:55:41] ender : so order and cancel parrot :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-07-11 10:56:25] aciid : my mastercard is crying

[2018-07-11 10:56:43] ender : my Visa left the building :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-07-11 10:57:07] ender : The REAL shortage is with batteries it seems

[2018-07-11 13:45:58] tomgardner44 : You know - 2500 is reasonable. If DJI did that and removed the NFZs they would be a lot more tolerable.

[2018-07-11 14:16:27] aciid : Crane 2 firmware was encrypted, good thingm that their upgrade app uses Debug.Write when you select a firmware :DD

[2018-07-13 12:08:29] c.binetti : Which software are u using @aciid?

[2018-07-13 15:56:22] aciid : @c.binetti in what context?

[2018-07-13 15:58:47] aciid : @c.binetti software on left is IDA Decompiler

[2018-07-13 16:13:13] c.binetti : Thanks. Thats what i was asking for :)

[2018-07-13 19:21:17] aciid : oh shite recent macupådate is stuck on my mac

[2018-07-13 19:21:20] aciid : is this a filesystem update

[2018-07-13 19:31:47] aciid : oh now its moving

[2018-07-14 07:22:27] aciid : @aciid uploaded a file: [m1.PNG](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U6AD6A1QU/FBPSH8EC8/m1.png)

[2018-07-14 07:22:35] aciid : @aciid uploaded a file: [m4.PNG](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U6AD6A1QU/FBQN6S5EH/m4.png)

[2018-07-14 07:22:41] aciid : @aciid uploaded a file: [m3.PNG](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U6AD6A1QU/FBQN6SH1T/m3.png)

[2018-07-14 07:22:48] aciid : @aciid uploaded a file: [m2.PNG](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U6AD6A1QU/FBQ1RA4L9/m2.png)

[2018-07-14 08:45:20] mathieu.peyrega : man, they forgot the safety pins on the quick release screws for top payload...

[2018-07-14 08:45:47] mathieu.peyrega : they should hire real aeronautic hardware background peoples...

[2018-07-14 08:46:08] cs2000 : What the hell is that thing? Mavic enterprise?

[2018-07-14 08:46:40] mathieu.peyrega : yep, pictures have been "leaked" yesterday evenig on ~general

[2018-07-14 08:47:13] mathieu.peyrega : seems there will be a Mavic 2 and a Mavic 2 Enterprise (not know about Home / Pro version :slightly_smiling_face: )

[2018-07-14 08:47:18] mathieu.peyrega : with additionnal payload caps

[2018-07-14 08:48:38] cs2000 : They must have moved the compass then. If you mount a payload there on the MP the compass goes nuts. Standard top side mounting on a mavic is over the battery

[2018-07-14 08:52:55] mathieu.peyrega : this will also change the balance quite a lot... CoG must be most rear part...

[2018-07-15 04:59:32] makingthisnameup : I actually ordered via amz next day and they just pushed the delivery date back. However they have sent it, shrug. Amz kinda sucking lately

[2018-07-15 05:02:29] makingthisnameup : I'm officially in the same wtf is my anafi? Mode as well. Shipping pushed back

[2018-07-15 05:05:14] aciid : mine is stuck in Netherlands now

[2018-07-15 11:08:48] makingthisnameup : I bet mine is being used for mail delivery selfies, follow the mailtruck mode

[2018-07-15 11:09:56] aciid : I'm quite scare that mines stolen or something I've gotten no updates since friday

[2018-07-15 11:56:54] bjoneseying : My thoughts are this enterprise is nothing more than a prototype

[2018-07-15 15:22:22] makingthisnameup : It feels like a product of dji's "hey! Keep looking, don't buy an anafi! Look we put some stuff on top!"

[2018-07-15 15:26:09] aciid : best meme is the "How Mavic Air beats Parrot Anafi" <https://dev.cdn.wetalkuav.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/13175335/123123.png>

[2018-07-15 15:26:33] aciid : according to DJI forums and some fanboys this is literally better

[2018-07-15 15:29:33] makingthisnameup : Make sense, somehow

[2018-07-16 04:25:32] aciid : so trump and putin summit is today. an formal NFZ has been given by the police withing 30km radius of the capital

[2018-07-16 07:51:26] bjoneseying : Performance Appraisal? :smile:

[2018-07-16 14:47:53] d95gas : Sent inquiry to Autel regarding Europe and the EVO...... Below was the response: Thank you for contacting Autel Robotics Support. Upon initial release of the Evo, it will not be available for sale or shipping internationally through us. We are working on being able to provide this service in the future but we have not been given a timeline as to when that would be and what regions we would be selling in. The reason we have decided not to sell internationally is because we want to be able to offer the same level of support to our international customers as we do our American customers. In order to do that we have to have support systems in place in various regions which we currently do not. If you would still like to purchase the Evo at this time, your best bet would be to reach out to one of our dealers in the United States and see if they can offer you international shipping (I believe Circuit Street and Carolina Dronz are your safest options). I do want to remind you that if you were ever to have a crash or any other sort of hardware issues with your Evo that required it to be brought back to our facility, you would have to cover the shipping costs over from Europe.

[2018-07-16 16:29:27] mr.vibez : I thought they didn't get CE approval

[2018-07-16 16:48:55] d95gas : Thats what I thought, hence why I sent an email to see what they would come back with. On the other hand the above could be just them not saying they didnt get the relevant approval

[2018-07-16 21:02:56] solution : @solution uploaded a file: [Bild von iOS](https://dji-rev.slack.com/files/U65GRAUAF/FBRLC9RA9/bild_von_ios.jpg)

[2018-07-16 21:03:58] solution : It is CE Rohs labelt

[2018-07-17 07:27:16] d95gas : Interesting....... thanks for that

[2018-07-18 20:53:05] mathieu.peyrega : best website ever to learn all the hard rules of french language : <http://pornorthographe.fr/> (already need an advanced level to appreciate :slightly_smiling_face: )

[2018-07-18 21:17:49] mr.vibez : i'm scared to click

[2018-07-18 21:17:59] mr.vibez : I guess it's NSFW?

[2018-07-18 21:21:24] mathieu.peyrega : no, it's safe

[2018-07-18 21:22:42] mathieu.peyrega : it's talking about some subtlety of french language, but all the exemple sentences are "oriented" and quite funny

[2018-07-20 11:17:23] d95gas : Anyone got any idea how I downgrade from IOS 11.4.1 down to 11.2.1 now that Apple have stopped signing the earlier releases?

[2018-07-20 12:08:08] cs2000 : Unless youve got your blobs saved, no real way to do it :confused:

[2018-07-20 12:54:26] d95gas : Bugger....... :disappointed: screwed again by Mr Apple

[2018-07-20 12:57:42] d95gas : Just rolled back from 12 but Apple stopped signing anything before 11.4.1

[2018-07-20 13:09:20] cs2000 : Is 11.4 beta 3 signed?

[2018-07-20 13:36:15] d95gas : nope only one showing signed now is 11.4.1, everything else unsigned

[2018-07-20 13:36:18] d95gas : git bags

[2018-07-20 14:07:05] d95gas : Just found a Beta 2 and hoping its signed!!

[2018-07-20 14:14:51] cs2000 : fingers crossed!

[2018-07-20 14:14:58] cs2000 : think beta2 can be jailbroken

[2018-07-20 14:27:39] d95gas : nah bloody system refused to install it. Grrrrrrrr

[2018-07-20 14:29:28] d95gas : can find ipad mini 2 9.3.5 signed, but every ref I come across for mini 4 is unsigned..... my own fault for failing to turn off auto update

[2018-07-20 15:44:31] anydreamplay : !wiki

[2018-07-21 06:50:56] d95gas : Yep exactly my thoughts, Mini was used less and less because Android was now sorted, but thought I would give it a go on the new patched IOS app and Jailbreak..... but it looks like its not to be yet

[2018-07-21 09:27:06] aciid : slow weekend huh or timezones?

[2018-07-21 09:27:10] aciid : 12:27 here

[2018-07-21 10:35:58] d95gas : timezones :slightly_smiling_face: 11:35am here in sunny UK

[2018-07-21 12:39:19] jezzab : 10:38pm Sat here. Just unplugged for a while. Beers and a fire pit.

[2018-07-21 12:50:07] aciid : yeah have a good one, found something really interesting trying to apktool b sucessfully to test it, don't have phy device to run android from or virtual to frida with

[2018-07-21 12:50:28] aciid : gonna set the mavic free from clientbased restriction i found

[2018-07-22 09:37:11] haloweenhamster : Hi not been around for a while but saw this & thought people maybe interested if they haven't already seen it <https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ixSOaL9aXUA>

[2018-07-22 09:38:27] aciid : thanks, will watch. US lagging behind legislation interesting to watch if they do a full 180 now

[2018-07-22 20:55:16] borillion_star : are there direct links to the mavic firmware images anywhere?

[2018-07-22 20:56:24] validat0r : @borillion_star!ddd

[2018-07-22 20:57:11] borillion_star : exe :disappointed:

[2018-07-22 23:05:02] digdat0 : <http://dji.polybotes.feralhosting.com/DJI-Firmware/BIN/>

[2018-07-22 23:05:02] digdat0 : dont trust exe? manually download

[2018-07-22 23:05:10] digdat0 : that tool is great though

[2018-07-22 23:11:10] aciid : that thing works in wine too though

[2018-07-23 01:58:58] borillion_star : thanks that was my concern

[2018-07-23 05:33:45] borillion_star : Does anyone know if the RC controllers also running Android?

[2018-07-23 05:41:44] jezzab : Mavic Pro is yes

[2018-07-23 05:45:45] borillion_star : cool thanks jezzab

[2018-07-23 06:11:24] borillion_star : wm220.cfg.sig I see xml wrapped in something?

[2018-07-23 06:18:25] mathieu.peyrega : it's xml with a 480 bytes binary signature header

[2018-07-23 06:18:41] mathieu.peyrega : that DJI uses to authenticate it's files

[2018-07-23 06:19:30] borillion_star : interesting, hard to find all this info as its all over the place

[2018-07-23 06:20:38] mathieu.peyrega : like in most fields...

[2018-07-23 06:21:07] mathieu.peyrega : expect a few were that say "one book contains all" as bible or those kind of stuff :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-07-23 06:23:04] aciid : !wiki

[2018-07-23 06:23:21] aciid : ^ @borillion_star

[2018-07-23 06:26:50] borillion_star : yes, aware of that @aciid but still struggling even with it.

[2018-07-23 06:35:14] borillion_star : @mathieu.peyrega do you have a link to that info, not getting anything on google or github

[2018-07-23 06:37:41] mathieu.peyrega : I have no real advcie other than : take a string and pull it to next knot... untie it and go forward. there are plenty of good github tools start points : <https://github.com/o-gs/dji-firmware-tools> <https://github.com/Bin4ry/deejayeye-modder> <https://github.com/CunningLogic/DUMLRacer> (those got other github tools at the end) In the end, all depends what you are tying to achieve

[2018-07-23 06:38:06] mathieu.peyrega : speaking for myself, I started with the deejayeye-modder stuff and the app

[2018-07-23 06:38:36] mathieu.peyrega : trying to understand this decompilation / modding / recompile chain and patches, then making my own etc.

[2018-07-23 06:38:45] borillion_star : decrypt and assemble the firmware image

[2018-07-23 06:38:58] aciid : dji-firmware-tools is the repo for that

[2018-07-23 06:39:15] mathieu.peyrega : the first github I gave have all the tools to decrypt image

[2018-07-23 06:39:45] mathieu.peyrega : for re-assembling and flashing a modded one is not public (yet)

[2018-07-23 06:41:00] mathieu.peyrega : as there is this signature authentication stuff, the so called module mixing is a simpe way of re-assembling by removing some modules in a bin so they don't get flashed

[2018-07-23 06:41:54] borillion_star : oh, I see. noticed the Redmi 2 has the same cpu. ... qemu came to mind.

[2018-07-23 06:42:52] aciid : files you download with DDD or from FTP ( the bin files ) are actually archives that you can extract

[2018-07-23 06:43:47] aciid : they then contain individual modules that some of them are encrypted and signatured

[2018-07-23 06:46:51] borillion_star : Yep. Noticed that there are tools to decrypt them. However have hit a wall with Does not accept IM*H format - requires input files with first level encryption already removed

[2018-07-23 06:49:57] borillion_star : Also found "all modules in separate files, and their format isn't decoded yet (its magic value is"IM*H")"

[2018-07-23 06:51:30] mathieu.peyrega : the tools image.py from here : <https://github.com/fvantienen/dji_rev>

[2018-07-23 06:51:36] mathieu.peyrega : will allow "unsigging"

[2018-07-23 06:52:26] mathieu.peyrega : (Mavic and P4 only iirc because Spark key is different and not published)

[2018-07-23 06:57:24] borillion_star : Was actually looking at that when you posted the link

[2018-07-23 07:01:38] borillion_star : Thanks all a good start. Let's see what trouble I can cause later :yum:

[2018-07-23 08:24:15] cs2000 : @borillion_star i developed DDD, dont worry its safe and is used by thousands of people all over the world. I used to provide the source code (i know some people dont like running random EXE's), but like Jezzab with DUMLDore, people were stealing it and re-branding things as their own, so i pulled it. Trust me, its safe :slightly_smiling_face: but youre perfectly fine to pull direct from the web based directory listing if youd rather !

[2018-07-23 09:51:01] borillion_star : @cs2000 it's just that I'm on non windows os's :) not that I don't trust the exe

[2018-07-23 09:52:14] cs2000 : Ahh i got it, wrong end of the stick then :wink: As i said, feel free to use the directory listings to get what you need

[2018-07-23 14:58:46] borillion_star : Sucks that there are greedy people who take advantage of open source code and sell it :(

[2018-07-23 15:17:31] cs2000 : Correct, happend with DUMLDore quote a lot, and Bin4ry's modder too, frustrating!

[2018-07-23 17:05:52] aciid : @antihawk patching up that clientside security from goapp wifi controller MP 4G

[2018-07-23 17:14:34] aciid : the altitude is read from flyc parameters (dji assitant), so it's not changed here. Distance is from smali

[2018-07-23 17:30:11] borillion_star : :disappointed: chip sanding

[2018-07-23 17:31:28] borillion_star : Anyone know what the red dotted chip is? <https://i.imgur.com/munMzP0.jpg>

[2018-07-23 17:44:16] aciid : @borillion_star atmega 300mhz

[2018-07-23 17:44:51] borillion_star : haha awesome

[2018-07-23 17:45:45] borillion_star : arduino FTW :stuck_out_tongue: JK

[2018-07-23 17:45:53] aciid : thats a ARM nevertheless

[2018-07-23 17:45:59] borillion_star : yep

[2018-07-23 20:17:59] jan2642 : I thought the MP FC was an ATSAME70

[2018-07-23 20:22:49] aciid : oh shit

[2018-07-23 20:23:04] aciid : yeah i didnt find the chip i just tried to look it up

[2018-07-23 20:23:10] aciid : coudlnt remember

[2018-07-23 20:24:28] the_lord : you are correct @jan2642 <https://github.com/o-gs/dji-firmware-tools/wiki/WM220-photos/WM220-Flight-Ctrl-boardv5a-top.png>

[2018-07-23 21:32:00] borillion_star : ROFL

[2018-07-23 21:32:02] borillion_star : cool

[2018-07-24 22:31:05] borillion_star : has anyone tried to get feeds off of any of the other cams on the mavic pro other than the main 4K?

[2018-07-24 23:45:14] borillion_star : Anyone try to enable adb over WiFi?

[2018-07-24 23:53:28] aciid : you just need to start adb server on wifi interfae

[2018-07-24 23:53:32] aciid : better to open ssh?

[2018-07-24 23:54:00] aciid : adb is good if you absolutly need logcat or push pull

[2018-07-25 00:39:15] borillion_star : ssh is def better yes. I'm just thinking of how I can use different methods to get data off while it's airborne

[2018-07-25 00:42:13] aciid : ssh + MOSH if it's compabitle?

[2018-07-25 00:42:48] aciid : <https://mosh.org/>

[2018-07-25 06:11:20] ben_lin : !apk

[2018-07-27 05:36:22] 1313659 : After mavic is cracked, litchi cannot carry out the route planning, which prompts: data cannot be uploaded in NFZ. What can be done to solve this problem?

[2018-07-29 06:26:09] haloweenhamster : Retroroms no longer?

[2018-07-29 06:26:18] haloweenhamster : !info

[2018-07-29 06:28:16] jezzab : !wiki

[2018-07-29 11:02:11] kefah.mansour : Need someone’s opinion with this flight data lost my bird on vacation any help would be appreciated ty <https://app.airdata.com/share/EUFupW>

[2018-07-29 11:10:03] d95gas : Think you need to post this on MavicPilots forum, they have a few guys on there who have some fantastic diagnostics software that interprets the DJI logs, and they have had great success in helping people find their craft. <http://mavicpilots.com/#general-forums.1>

[2018-07-29 13:37:53] haloweenhamster : Cheers jezzab, shows how long its been, used .com instead of .info & typed the wrong ! command

[2018-07-29 14:20:25] aciid : @kefah.mansour I think your drone is in the bottom of the sea

[2018-07-29 14:20:33] aciid : 15feet flight altitude?

[2018-07-29 14:20:36] aciid : bro thats 4meters

[2018-07-29 14:20:49] aciid : you flew with sport mode that low

[2018-07-29 14:38:50] aciid : @kefah.mansour insurance

[2018-07-30 06:08:40] kefah.mansour : I guess that’s what I get for updating the stupid thing

[2018-07-30 06:10:14] kefah.mansour : Thanks anyways kid ، filled a clame with dji and insurance at least it wasn’t my mp I agree with you on the bottom of the sea, It’s just hard to comprehend when the last thing it said was my bird was a 77 m in the sky

[2018-07-30 10:26:08] erwin : <https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pUuQzF9kkQo> I am slowly getting into FPV drones from the dji experience. Much more complicated but so rewarding and fun.

[2018-07-30 10:28:19] ender : nice one :slightly_smiling_face: How much practice did you need to get there ?

[2018-07-30 10:31:36] erwin : Like 2 hour with the tiny one :D but I also got a big one wizard x220s... Still really really frightening just to hover

[2018-07-30 10:35:44] ender : i know, tried to learn :wink:

[2018-07-30 10:42:13] erwin : Any video of your learning process? I need to start mastering flips and acro now

[2018-07-30 10:42:55] ender : :wink:

[2018-07-30 10:43:00] ender : nope no vid

[2018-07-30 11:27:03] aciid :

[2018-07-30 11:27:47] aciid : found from mavicpilots

[2018-07-30 11:27:57] aciid :

[2018-07-30 11:30:04] aciid : mavicpilots kek mods

[2018-07-30 11:30:18] validat0r : No airborne pics? I would suppose so

[2018-07-30 11:30:52] aciid :

[2018-07-30 11:32:16] aciid : <https://mavicpilots.com/threads/mavic-pro-motor-mod.38733/page-22>

[2018-07-30 11:32:20] aciid : this guy is just crazy

[2018-07-30 11:34:58] validat0r : Hovering .. Well ..

[2018-07-30 11:35:15] aciid : check the thread he has printed the arms and all

[2018-07-30 11:35:30] aciid : I don't see what he is trying to achieve tho

[2018-07-30 11:56:51] jezzab : if your looking for a long distance or high flying (10,000m) talk to @lowellfoo780 here

[2018-07-30 11:57:55] jezzab : The barometer doesnt like that high lol

[2018-07-30 12:10:35] cs2000 : is that 29 LiPo's strapped down there? Even with P3 propelors (or P4, cant tell) they must be a struggle!

[2018-07-30 12:28:14] aciid : 10km wtf

[2018-07-30 12:28:19] aciid : doesn't the AC freeze in that altitude

[2018-07-30 12:47:43] lolo780 : If the AC was off maybe it would freeze. You do need to insulate the batteries to keep them up to temp. ESC temps can go below 0c on the way down but doesn't matter.

[2018-07-30 17:20:44] erwin : A lot :) seems high quality for the price

[2018-07-30 17:21:32] aciid : it looks like a killbot

[2018-07-30 17:30:40] aciid : I cant get over how funny gopro karma flyaway videos are

[2018-07-30 17:30:51] aciid : "oh gps lost? drone goes bye bye"

[2018-07-31 01:17:26] paulpaws : Looks nice. What FC is it using ?(F3,F4) what’s software are you using on it?

[2018-07-31 06:00:40] erwin : @paulpaws omnibus f4sd with betaflight 3.4

[2018-07-31 10:36:30] paulpaws : @erwin Flying full manual (rate) or acro/horizon ? How you liking it?

[2018-07-31 10:42:03] erwin : Just hovering for now in stab mode :/ I switch to air but I get scared fast. I have been practising more with the tiny one.

[2018-07-31 10:45:50] erwin : But I've adapted a box for the wizard to start practising more. Do you recommend always use acro/air? It seems there is a lot of opposite controversy how you learn incorrectly if you start with the self leveling mode

[2018-07-31 11:07:51] buundy : Learn acro :+1:

[2018-07-31 12:46:34] validat0r : tried spark in manual mode for a couple of times .. nearly wet my pants

[2018-07-31 12:48:28] aciid : manual mode is amazing

[2018-07-31 12:48:42] aciid : remember not to switch back to normal if you are wrong way up

[2018-07-31 12:50:02] validat0r : isnt it more easy to practice with fpv?

[2018-07-31 12:52:47] aciid : it would be yes, but I don't have a FPV craft yet

[2018-07-31 12:53:03] aciid : I've been looking at the wizard myself too

[2018-07-31 13:19:32] flydji : yeah, i also got into fpv flying after mavic experience. its great fun, also have a qx65 for indoor and garden flying, very nice. btw, i know its a little bit off topic, i badly crashed my homemade 215 racer two weeks ago, touched handlebar of my mtb at high speed. lost a esc part on the fc board (a racerstar starf3s). i know, here are some hardware guys around, what is it? where i can get this small part? there are no numbers or specs printed on... dont want to buy a new one. because im going more into smaller quads less than 250g, less restrictions where i live (you always need a spotter over 250g...)

[2018-07-31 13:19:36] flydji : <https://imgur.com/a/kR8V1Rt>

[2018-07-31 13:23:43] ender : looks like a capacitor… only which size,,,

[2018-07-31 13:29:40] good.win.alexs : easier to unsolder another one and measure on multimeter

[2018-07-31 13:29:59] good.win.alexs : 99.9% that they all have same capacity

[2018-07-31 13:50:30] aciid : that can be replaced with a through hole capacitator, just measure the capacitance from the adjacent one

[2018-07-31 13:52:58] aciid : that esc cap can be fixed like this :smile: <https://i.imgur.com/e65Mgou.jpg>

[2018-07-31 14:04:16] good.win.alexs : you are brutal )))

[2018-07-31 14:10:29] aciid : not me :3

[2018-07-31 14:48:02] flydji : yeah, thanks :slightly_smiling_face: i think will try to desolder the oposite one and measure... next time when i think i have a quiet hand :wink:

[2018-07-31 14:50:03] aciid : you dont need to desolder tto measure

[2018-07-31 14:50:12] aciid : or do you?

[2018-07-31 14:53:05] cs2000 : With capacitors yeah you do. If you try to read the value in circuit you get unreliable numbers as you read the capacitance of the pcb traces and other stuff connected

[2018-07-31 16:43:37] dhemps : where can i find the IPA for FCC Boost?

[2018-07-31 18:03:20] will042082 : !ios

[2018-07-31 18:03:24] will042082 : !apk

[2018-07-31 18:35:14] borillion_star : So Amazon in the USA as a direct seller I'd out of Mavic Pro kits. Does DJI stop manufacturering when they move to a new version or model?

[2018-07-31 18:38:12] aciid : have they stopped manufacturing phantom 3?

[2018-07-31 18:49:45] borillion_star : I dunno lol

[2018-07-31 18:49:54] borillion_star : I take that as no?

[2018-07-31 21:28:17] umbr4 : anyone have an i2 with x7s? luck with cherry picked updates?

[2018-07-31 22:16:04] aciid : how do i get banggood to ship addditional wizard battery ?

[2018-07-31 22:16:14] aciid : colleaue said the cart denies shipping additional batteries

[2018-07-31 22:16:21] aciid : the one with drone comes tho

[2018-07-31 22:50:02] jezzab : @flydji looks like it ripped most of the pcb trace off with it :confused: will have to scratch back near it

[2018-07-31 22:50:49] aciid : Is Wizard good FPV if I need a FPV?

[2018-07-31 22:50:56] aciid : I think my drone quota is then full for the year

[2018-07-31 22:56:31] paulpaws : I would just get the batteries from HobbyKing

[2018-07-31 22:57:30] aciid : ok

[2018-07-31 23:04:47] aciid : @sami.keskinen

[2018-07-31 23:22:44] aciid : Ordered a Wizard

[2018-08-01 00:46:17] erwin : <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Eachine-Wizard-X220S-FPV-Racer-Spare-Part-4S-14-8V-1500mAh-75C-Battery-XT60-Plug-Connector/32833642587.html>

[2018-08-01 00:46:26] erwin : the battery is cheaper in aliexpress

[2018-08-01 08:46:25] sami.keskinen : Banggood says I get 2 of those batteries via Priority Direct Mail for 37,72 €, but AliExpress says it's 34,90 € a piece, and can't be delivered :smile:

[2018-08-01 08:52:05] erwin : Strange. I'm in Norway and from both shops I've ordered

[2018-08-01 09:53:26] sami.keskinen : Finland here

[2018-08-01 09:54:23] sami.keskinen : has anyone tried to construct a digital signal on drone end, before sending signal via 5.8 GHz link to goggles?

[2018-08-01 09:54:36] sami.keskinen : from the A/V that is

[2018-08-01 09:58:17] good.win.alexs : yes, works just amazing on 450 drone

[2018-08-01 09:58:18] good.win.alexs : <https://github.com/bortek/EZ-WifiBroadcast/wiki>

[2018-08-01 09:58:30] good.win.alexs : hacked wifi + RPI with camera

[2018-08-01 09:59:01] good.win.alexs : latency more or less same as on OccuSync

[2018-08-01 09:59:33] good.win.alexs : but setup is not very compact, so i have doubt it will fit for any small copter

[2018-08-01 10:00:06] good.win.alexs : can work on 2.3/2.4/5Ghz

[2018-08-01 10:00:23] good.win.alexs : depending on hardware that you will choose for RF

[2018-08-01 10:01:36] good.win.alexs : this part is interesting :wink: <https://github.com/bortek/EZ-WifiBroadcast/wiki/7km-rubber-ducky-setup>

[2018-08-01 10:25:58] sami.keskinen : looks nice!

[2018-08-01 10:27:38] sami.keskinen : I actually have some experience in designing SMD-boards, and I'm researching if it would be feasible to produce a fairly low-cost (e.g. 100 USD) solution to transmit digital video from an FPV drone - with ultra-low-latency of course.

[2018-08-01 10:29:14] sami.keskinen : Sony IMX-cameras/IC:s seem to have a possibility to record video in 120 and 240 fps, which would procude images fast enough (let's say e.g. 30 fps). Extra / unneeded frames could be discarded achieving speeds of 4.2-8.2 ms/frame.

[2018-08-01 10:30:16] sami.keskinen : If the requirement of taking images, packing, sending via wifi, receiving and displaying on screen is about 25-30 ms, the faster cameras would leave abt. 21-27 ms for processing and signal travelling through air.

[2018-08-01 10:31:49] sami.keskinen : it seems (this is all new to me) that there are two common formats of image data, the BT.656 and YUV422, where the data is the same, except thet BT.656 contains sync intervals and with YUV422 the sync data must come from somewhere else.

[2018-08-01 10:33:53] sami.keskinen : Now if this BT.656 or YUV422 data could be e.g. h.264 encoded, it would save a lot of bandwidth. The problem is, it would most likely be UDP. (I dunno about WiFi equipment for drones. Do they support TCP? Is there a way to communicate back? Is it needed to ACK packets?)

[2018-08-01 10:35:16] sami.keskinen : there are some products that probably do something like this, but commercial solutions range anywhere from 500 to 5000 kUSD

[2018-08-01 10:36:16] sami.keskinen : I'll check that EZ-WifiBroadcast, it might provide some guiding where to go next. Thanks goodwin_c

[2018-08-01 10:57:00] good.win.alexs : for transmission part you can check WifiBroadcast

[2018-08-01 10:58:00] good.win.alexs : it takes h264 from Broadcom SoC (it takes raw from sony IMX and gives back encoded frames to software, no way to get raw info from sensor on RPI)

[2018-08-01 10:58:16] good.win.alexs : and then WifiBroadcast creates packets to send over the air

[2018-08-01 10:58:39] good.win.alexs : it uses Wifi sticks for physical RF layer, it is not using normal TCP

[2018-08-01 10:59:05] good.win.alexs : this is udp-like single-direction broadcast without any feedback

[2018-08-01 10:59:26] good.win.alexs : so you can check sources how it is done if you like

[2018-08-01 11:00:32] good.win.alexs : with RPI biggest issues are: 1. you have to stick with just two sensors, that are compatible with RPI (first can gibe 48fps 720p, newer one - 60fps 720p)

[2018-08-01 11:00:55] good.win.alexs : 2. you have no control over encoding process. broadcom gpu has 3 frames buffer

[2018-08-01 11:01:27] good.win.alexs : so you are always 2 frames late…

[2018-08-01 11:01:37] good.win.alexs : and this increases latency a lot

[2018-08-01 11:02:14] good.win.alexs : i think products like OccuSync are using something similar, but polished and using custom electronics

[2018-08-01 11:03:14] good.win.alexs : btw, for transmitter it is enough to have RPI zero - there is no much calculations to prepare and send frames

[2018-08-01 11:03:50] good.win.alexs : but for receiver you will need at least RPI 2 to combine all that frames + make overlay with OSD (from telemetry data) and show this on screen

[2018-08-01 11:08:49] sami.keskinen : I would probably use custom electronics in the end, if I get it working

[2018-08-01 11:09:44] sami.keskinen : most SoC:s only require some caps and resistors, the spec sheets have been good, though the hardest part is to actually find proper IC for the job

[2018-08-01 11:12:09] sami.keskinen : el cheapo Eachine VR-007 goggles use AMT630A, which provide A/V output, but also give out BT.656. I could perhaps grab that and process with some SoC to get h.264 or MJPEG or something, and then via some signalmodulation wizardry utilise the existing 5.8 GHz transmitter to send that over the air, and also decode it on the goggle-end.

[2018-08-01 11:13:30] sami.keskinen : aciid already refused to lend his equipment :smile: oh well.. I just have to order a bunch of add'tl stuff to hack and break

[2018-08-01 12:51:38] buundy : I ordered this type of cables for Spark, P4, P3, MA, MP: <https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/B6-Cable-for-DJI-MAVIC-Pro-Drone-Battery-to-Aftermarket-Charger-Adapter-Plug-fast-charging-line/1710967_32825104978.html?spm=2114.12010615.8148356.5.54bb5514ONusuN>

[2018-08-01 12:51:53] buundy : do you know the charging current each battery takes?

[2018-08-01 12:52:09] buundy : or should I rely on the original chargers otuput voltage and current rating?

[2018-08-01 12:53:11] validat0r : see ~hardware

[2018-08-01 12:53:16] buundy : I plan to make an universal charger for all of the popular DJI models I repair daily, so I don’t have to use several original chargers and have a mess on my tables

[2018-08-01 13:05:51] mefisto : I bough such charger from china. Clamed 240W but really its 3x80W. So P3X and Inspire batts take longer than with official charger. Spark grts charged very fast though. I got cables for 3 selected platforms in the pack.

[2018-08-01 13:06:22] buundy : I wont buy the charger unit, I only bought the charging cables

[2018-08-01 13:06:30] buundy : I have a variable power supply unit

[2018-08-01 13:14:02] mefisto : Will work, as long as you're ok with the supply unit being blocked while charging. For the current - my rule is as long the battery isn't hot all is good. 100W increases ph3 battery temp a bit, but not to the hot level. And for Spark, 80W seem too much, but the battery temp was quite low. Beyond 100W i would go only with Inspire batteries.

[2018-08-01 13:51:47] flydji : will have a look with some magnifying glass, hope i get this back to fly. its so hot today, dont want to power up the soldering iron :wink:

[2018-08-01 13:52:15] flydji : i modded this: <https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=39239309&postcount=29> and similar to this: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5aOHULJzK4> It even flies better then....

[2018-08-01 16:59:08] buundy : okay, thanks! time is not important, I would charge slowly. Space on my desk is more important :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-08-01 19:09:36] aciid : <https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/wireless-video-3D-FPV-stereo-camera-support-MAVLINK-protocol/2673183_32787223266.html>

[2018-08-01 19:09:41] aciid : holy shmooballs

[2018-08-01 20:10:44] borillion_star : I was looking for those last week to stick onto rPi and play around with computer vision

[2018-08-01 20:11:28] borillion_star : Realsense modules are interesting too

[2018-08-01 20:45:33] borillion_star : @aciid <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxFscw3DUc0>

[2018-08-01 20:46:12] aciid : @borillion_star there are stereo usb-models for 50€ in aliexpress, but these could be connected via videopin

[2018-08-01 20:46:24] borillion_star : yep

[2018-08-01 20:46:24] aciid : like you could have two TX modules

[2018-08-01 20:46:28] aciid : and have a stereo vision FPV

[2018-08-01 20:46:30] aciid : :smile:

[2018-08-01 20:46:38] aciid : i dont know does it feel good tho

[2018-08-01 20:51:37] borillion_star : Can think of cool but useless addons, LTE usb modem?

[2018-08-01 21:29:47] borillion_star : can or should a mavic pro be erased before return? Amazon wants me to send it back rather than just replace the one bad battery :-S.

[2018-08-01 21:30:40] validat0r : i'd root it and purge all logs/.DAT/vids/pics

[2018-08-01 21:31:03] validat0r : and flash a clean fw at the end

[2018-08-02 08:42:33] haloweenhamster : It'll be fine without it, do you use a low esr cap on the battery input?

[2018-08-02 08:44:55] haloweenhamster : Still flies fine

[2018-08-02 08:48:40] aciid : holy shit

[2018-08-02 08:49:25] aciid : is this one motor? In guess they filter the noise in DC lines when using PWM for control. Since voltage bursts and spikes, but I don't have experience how much that is a problem

[2018-08-02 18:22:13] aciid : <https://mavicpilots.com/threads/mavic-air-racing-props-mod.38130/> lol

[2018-08-02 19:03:58] borillion_star : Why not? :joy:

[2018-08-02 19:07:31] validat0r : is that @will042082 from here?

[2018-08-02 19:07:43] will042082 : im here

[2018-08-02 19:08:12] will042082 : what I do?

[2018-08-02 19:08:19] validat0r : you know that the tipping point for the tilt_atti_range is 70?

[2018-08-02 19:08:28] will042082 : 60 for the air

[2018-08-02 19:08:34] validat0r : at 70° the props will shut off

[2018-08-02 19:09:04] validat0r : so if you fly 60° and something goes sideways ...

[2018-08-02 19:09:21] validat0r : just saying :wink:

[2018-08-02 19:10:33] will042082 : ``` "DEFAULT": 35, "MAX": 60, "MIN": 10, "NAME": "mode_sport_cfg_tilt_atti_range|g_config_mode_sport_cfg_tilt_atti_range", "RAW_NAME": "mode_sport_cfg_tilt_atti_range|g_config_mode_sport_cfg_tilt_atti_range", "TYPE": "float", "VALUE": "35"```

[2018-08-02 19:10:42] will042082 : ya i bumpted it down to 55-55

[2018-08-02 19:10:56] will042082 : i'd love to figure out how to stop the gimbal from lowing

[2018-08-02 19:11:01] will042082 : when u go fast

[2018-08-02 19:11:49] validat0r : what exactly do you mean by lowing?

[2018-08-02 19:12:50] validat0r : maybe you should mention that on your [mavicpilots.com](http://mavicpilots.com) post

[2018-08-02 19:13:28] will042082 : so with tilt set at 50-55, if you hammer down it hauls ass, and the gimbal moves down also, well even when u slow down or stop, the gimbal is still facing down

[2018-08-02 19:13:49] will042082 : it's annoying and I have to hit the auto center button on my controller to bring it back up

[2018-08-02 19:14:42] validat0r : i'm not sure i saw somthing like that with my spark

[2018-08-02 19:15:57] validat0r : sounds like a bug to me

[2018-08-02 19:21:13] flydji : uuhhh. that looks bad, do you fly this on a regular basis? no, no low esr cap...

[2018-08-02 19:47:09] will042082 : It doesn’t do it unless ur pretty much full throttle. And actually come to think of it. Default sport mode did the same. If u went wide open since the drone was tilted it would auto angle the drone down

[2018-08-02 19:47:53] will042082 : Maybe to avoid the gimbal hitting the top? Do u know which parameters would adjust that?

[2018-08-02 19:50:52] will042082 : "DEFAULT": 30, "MAX": 60, "MIN": 20, "NAME": "gimbal_priority_flight_tilt", "RAW_NAME": "gimbal_priority_flight_tilt", "TYPE": "float", "VALUE": "30"

[2018-08-02 19:51:02] will042082 : My guess

[2018-08-03 18:15:46] borillion_star : any software mods that boost the RC tx power?

[2018-08-03 19:01:23] aciid : @borillion_star DJI Go 4 app

[2018-08-03 19:33:07] borillion_star : huh, I figured that would be something they set it firnware, nice

[2018-08-03 19:44:02] aciid : just don't burn down your RC ok?

[2018-08-03 19:48:07] borillion_star : I can't promise I won't >:D

[2018-08-03 23:47:17] borillion_star : I wasn't expecting files etc on the nand to be encrypted for the MP

[2018-08-03 23:47:22] borillion_star : very interesting

[2018-08-04 00:16:17] aciid : @borillion_star logs and such are encrypted yea

[2018-08-04 01:39:32] borillion_star : so for deejayeye-moder so we need to get a google api key? Doesn't the app already have one inside it?

[2018-08-04 01:43:38] borillion_star : nm I see why, The Google maps API key is dependent on the app Signature.

[2018-08-04 03:45:34] borillion_star : so the DJI warranty can you activate that without activating the drone through the app? I don't want to give all the info the app gathers to them.

[2018-08-05 12:22:24] aciid : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoNvjgtu82I> crazy guy

[2018-08-05 13:30:01] d95gas : interesting

[2018-08-05 13:30:48] d95gas : comes down wobbly ....... Quad808 mentioned this happens with the Evo if he comes down too fast

[2018-08-06 06:18:37] borillion_star : Speeeeed :heart:

[2018-08-06 06:21:14] borillion_star : wonder how much more battery that uses

[2018-08-06 17:57:54] quad808 : I am actually thinking about trying this...I have LOADS of props...heh

[2018-08-06 18:07:46] d95gas : you little devil :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-08-06 18:09:30] quad808 : LOL...I have regular props, CF props, Quiet props....big props, adapters...small props. I think I need intervention.

[2018-08-06 18:10:40] quad808 : @d95gas How are you liking the Anafi??

[2018-08-06 18:49:44] flymymavic : so this is slack

[2018-08-06 18:54:35] d95gas : @quad808 totally loving the Anafi....how about you

[2018-08-06 18:57:33] flymymavic : no one gonna welcome a new face ?

[2018-08-06 19:01:39] d95gas : Welcome bud

[2018-08-06 19:13:17] aciid : @flymymavic welcome :smiley:

[2018-08-06 19:46:50] quad808 : I ignore new people. Pay your dues.

[2018-08-06 19:46:56] quad808 : :joy:

[2018-08-06 19:47:05] quad808 : jk

[2018-08-06 19:48:17] quad808 : @d95gas I like it. After I got over the "hand launching" leap of faith shock, and the fact that it weights slightly more than a feather

[2018-08-06 19:49:27] quad808 : I did another update to the RC yesterday, and the position seems to hold better, both green gps lights...but still gets tossed a bit in the wind, but my yard has extreme conditions with a swirling wind, usually. The bigger drones have an easier time, but still can get moved around a bit.

[2018-08-06 20:46:06] borillion_star : anyone use those silly looking landing gear they have for the Mavic Pro?

[2018-08-06 20:47:18] aciid : I have extended feet for mavic, but I havent tried yet

[2018-08-06 20:47:23] quad808 : I use these...winners..<https://smile.amazon.com/PGYTECH-Protector-Extension-Replacement-accessories/dp/B072LPHVH8/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1533588407&sr=8-8&keywords=mavic+pro+landing+gear>

[2018-08-06 20:47:54] aciid : I have those

[2018-08-06 20:48:27] borillion_star : I was looking at those too, awesome

[2018-08-06 20:48:58] borillion_star : the mavics factory landing plastic bits are starting to get chewed up.

[2018-08-06 20:48:59] quad808 : They work great, love them...I have tried several...3d printed and the soft ones...trying to find a link

[2018-08-06 20:49:12] aciid : I've wrecked a front feet from mavic with payload

[2018-08-06 20:49:22] aciid : had 4S battery + extra camera + transmitter

[2018-08-06 20:49:25] aciid : too much weight

[2018-08-06 20:49:29] aciid : snapped right off the antenna thing

[2018-08-06 20:49:34] borillion_star : :open_mouth:

[2018-08-06 20:49:35] aciid : that points downwards from mavic motor

[2018-08-06 20:49:44] aciid : they are 2€ from aliexpress

[2018-08-06 20:50:21] borillion_star : the "antenna nacelle" yes @aciid I know what your talking about.

[2018-08-06 20:51:09] borillion_star : I'll remember that for when I start strapping things to this :smile:

[2018-08-06 20:53:08] quad808 : these...work too, but not as high off the ground. Only link I could find, mine are grey.. <https://tinyurl.com/ybk25am5>

[2018-08-06 20:53:19] aciid : that sounds unstable

[2018-08-06 20:53:22] aciid : but could be good

[2018-08-06 20:53:28] borillion_star : lol I thought the same

[2018-08-06 20:53:49] quad808 : They work, but I like the other one better

[2018-08-06 20:54:04] aciid : those look like silicone they are probably good enough

[2018-08-06 20:54:12] aciid : they dampen very good

[2018-08-06 20:55:23] good.win.alexs : i have black ones - not bad shock absorption

[2018-08-06 20:57:06] borillion_star : what about wraps do any of you use the vinyl ones? I was thinking about getting neon green or orange ones so I an see it better on sunny days?

[2018-08-06 20:57:09] borillion_star : ROFL

[2018-08-06 20:57:21] borillion_star : too obvious in those colors?

[2018-08-06 21:10:17] flymymavic : @quad808 I will pay my dues in time, thanks for the invite, now you know who i am!

[2018-08-07 15:45:38] aciid : bought wrong mode wizard

[2018-08-07 15:45:40] aciid : throttle is scary

[2018-08-07 15:45:44] aciid : imma open up the RC

[2018-08-07 15:45:47] aciid : and change the sticks

[2018-08-07 15:54:17] borillion_star : Anyone have experience with linux kernels/grub?

[2018-08-07 16:33:58] aciid : Flysky usb adapter

[2018-08-07 17:17:10] c.binetti : what to do with aciid?

[2018-08-07 18:13:47] aciid : flysky controller to USB works in Steam game Liftoff

[2018-08-07 18:14:03] aciid : <https://store.steampowered.com/app/410340/>

[2018-08-07 18:24:26] quad808 : checking out that game...looking good as far as reviews go...anyone tried it? game/simulator

[2018-08-07 18:26:45] quad808 : trying to figure out if I can use my Taranis with it, anyone know? Info is hard to come by

[2018-08-07 18:28:50] quad808 : nm, the answer is yes

[2018-08-07 18:30:00] aciid : @quad808 I have the game, it also can use fatshark goggles to run the image

[2018-08-07 18:30:11] aciid : its multiplayer I've played with xbox controller before with my friend

[2018-08-07 18:30:23] aciid : im now configuring my flysky FS-i6x for it

[2018-08-07 18:30:37] aciid : it works with multiple drone/uav controllers

[2018-08-07 18:31:55] quad808 : How do you like it? Good or just ok?

[2018-08-07 18:32:28] quad808 : I have FPV freerider, which is pretty good for training

[2018-08-07 18:36:54] aciid : best so far IMO, most of them are cashgrab, or they don't know physics

[2018-08-07 18:43:51] quad808 : Thanks! Will purchase.

[2018-08-07 19:54:02] good.win.alexs : liftoff works just pretty good with Taranix X9D :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-08-07 19:54:06] good.win.alexs : Taranis*

[2018-08-07 20:35:28] mathieu.peyrega : <https://copenhagensuborbitals.com/missions/nexo-ii/>

[2018-08-07 20:35:44] mathieu.peyrega : Those guys rock !

[2018-08-07 21:35:36] aciid : well fuck I broke my eachine ev100d

[2018-08-07 21:35:37] aciid : lelelele

[2018-08-07 21:55:03] quad808 : I have goggles....

[2018-08-07 21:55:06] quad808 : hang on

[2018-08-07 21:57:12] quad808 : or do you mean 200d?

[2018-08-07 22:06:45] aciid : for future reference ev100d has shitty flatcables that breakoff when you look at them wrong

[2018-08-07 22:17:04] flydji : try the ev800d when looking for cheap goggles. they are nice for the price, i used them a while.. but you will not look as cool as wearing compact ones ;-)

[2018-08-07 22:19:28] aciid : thanks flydji , ive looked at some other models but they look like toasters

[2018-08-07 22:24:20] flydji : hehe, yes, but they work quite good. if on 16:9, the new ev200d are looking good. i finally grabd used fatshark hd3

[2018-08-08 00:06:59] aciid : Im just on the edge, i dont want to haul a toaster with me. the goggles style like fatshark , eachine ev100 ev200 fit right and nice in my bag

[2018-08-09 22:13:26] wesleymiller : the best goggles right now for the $$ are probably the ev200

[2018-08-09 22:13:39] wesleymiller : damn that was 2 days ago

[2018-08-09 22:14:41] wesleymiller : I prefer the FatShark HDO with a Clearview Receiver. Cost more than my entire mavic though. FPV stuff is absurd for top of the line.

[2018-08-09 22:17:05] wesleymiller : <https://www.instagram.com/p/BkfKuyKFZAI/>

[2018-08-09 22:55:22] aciid : @wesleymiller that thing shines better than my harley xD

[2018-08-09 23:00:01] erwin : I am super happy with my SG RG01 googles (I was between those and ev800d). The resolution is low but I cant imagine it really matters considering the image quality of the transmission. Plus, I made a "robocop" sticker for them... <https://photos.app.goo.gl/YPSzdGggygUdnfyGA>

[2018-08-10 03:18:05] borillion_star : does anyone know if the Mavic Pro uses U-Boot?, better phrasing. How does it know the entry point of the rom?

[2018-08-10 08:45:50] validat0r : <https://www.tomshardware.com/news/x86-hidden-god-mode,37582.html>

[2018-08-10 08:45:55] validat0r : offtopic, but fun

[2018-08-10 10:35:38] paulpaws : Nice. I love the RF Explorer :)

[2018-08-10 11:27:00] g1dtf : Has anyone with a gear fit 2 (R360) or gear fit 2 pro (R365) measured the polarity of the charging pins with a voltmeter and can share the results.

[2018-08-10 23:02:24] borillion_star : When the Mavic does the spherical panorama are the component pictures deleted too or does it leave them on the flash?

[2018-08-10 23:03:44] borillion_star : I think I still have one of these in a box somewhere :smile:

[2018-08-10 23:10:05] will042082 : I thought there was an option to save the individual pics also

[2018-08-10 23:14:14] borillion_star : I dunno, I will look. I like the google style photo spheres better.

[2018-08-10 23:28:30] aciid : @borillion_star there was this option in"Autopilot" iOS app if I recall correctly it's made by hangar inc

[2018-08-10 23:41:15] borillion_star : :stuck_out_tongue: now I need an iPhone to go with my Android Phone

[2018-08-10 23:41:17] borillion_star : Shit

[2018-08-10 23:50:36] aciid : @borillion_star no worries m8 aliexpress sells oem grade iphone 6s plus's quite cheap, wihch I have dedicated for flying

[2018-08-10 23:50:54] borillion_star : oh interesting

[2018-08-10 23:51:39] aciid : <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Unlocked-Apple-iPhone-6s-Plus-2GB-RAM-16-32-64-128GB-ROM-Cell-Phone-IOS/32754215847.html>

[2018-08-10 23:52:10] aciid : and as you may know, aliexpress won't pay the seller until you have confirmed that you have received the product and it matches to the sellers description. also there are tons of reviews

[2018-08-10 23:52:23] aciid : I've bought my mavic pro from there, it was 750€ : 3

[2018-08-10 23:52:52] aciid : also dis phone and xiaomi note 5 pro , which is the best android phone I've yet had and it was dirt cheap there too

[2018-08-12 13:35:06] d95gas : You are posting same question in multiple channels ...... sure fire way to anger Jezzab :wink:

[2018-08-12 14:53:12] aciid : @d95gas context? who is what

[2018-08-12 14:56:18] d95gas : Ah right..... Its been deleted....Zoo .... same question, multiple channels

[2018-08-14 07:35:58] ender : Although jezz is known as the “man without temper” :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-08-14 08:31:16] jezzab : I have been very good lol

[2018-08-14 16:13:44] d95gas : Yes must admit, seems ages since he had to have words :slightly_smiling_face: he'll be getting out of practice

[2018-08-14 16:22:50] ender : :wink:

[2018-08-15 12:14:13] good.win.alexs : !wiki

[2018-08-16 11:14:41] mail451 : anybody here did A levels this year?

[2018-08-16 11:48:48] artu-ole : I feel like UK, Singapore, Kenya, Mauritius and Zimbabwe(countries with so called A levels) residents aren't majority here. But, you're welcome to share your experience

[2018-08-16 13:01:57] cs2000 : Theirs a few UK people here, but i suspect were all older than A-Level age from my chats with (most) of them who actively participate

[2018-08-16 15:02:18] mail451 : Just wondering because I could not log in into the results page. Problem solved now

[2018-08-16 16:06:41] d95gas : I think A level's were just coming in when I left school :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-08-17 08:03:11] buundy : This Mavic Pro's gimbal ribbon literally burnt after a few seconds water incident.

[2018-08-17 08:12:13] buundy :

[2018-08-17 08:13:00] cs2000 : wow, looks like its been chewed away!

[2018-08-17 08:13:45] jezzab : Safe to say that was a dead short :/

[2018-08-17 16:00:14] borillion_star : :disappointed:

[2018-08-17 16:00:35] borillion_star : I been looking at mine thinking how thin and exposed it is :

[2018-08-18 06:38:56] aciid : @buundy do you need new cables?

[2018-08-18 07:05:53] jezzab : Just ordered I Nvidia Shield (released in Aus finally). Usually use an Apple TV 4 as a Plex client but moved nearly everything away from Apple. Anyone here got one?

[2018-08-18 15:23:17] nocommie : Tablet or do you mean the media center one for gaming and to connect to a tv etc? I have the tablet and love it. I will also be getting the media center one as well to run Hulu etc.

[2018-08-18 16:09:35] erwin : how easy is to remove the mavic rear landing feets? are they easy to break? any experience?

[2018-08-18 22:56:52] jezzab : Oops forgot they made a tablet too. I mean the TV one

[2018-08-19 03:00:12] martinbogo : There's a full ifixit teardown...

[2018-08-19 06:29:05] lolo780 : @erwin easy, just grab with pliers and pull. The rear motors can really use the extra cooling airflow.

[2018-08-19 23:51:35] erwin : @lowellfoo780 but can the hold some weight? My question was more about how strong they are. I want to hang something

[2018-08-19 23:54:41] lolo780 : Yeah they're on there tight

[2018-08-20 02:20:26] borillion_star : I have a Shield TV too :hearts:

[2018-08-20 02:21:24] borillion_star : that took a long time for you guys to get them dang. I'm hoping they'll be getting refresh as with new Tegra's I've had my pro for 3 years.

[2018-08-20 05:11:37] markusfriedl : !wiki

[2018-08-20 06:19:02] borillion_star : How does modulemix break rth/precision landing, Anyone have details?

[2018-08-20 06:48:27] lolo780 : Nobody knows

[2018-08-20 06:49:14] borillion_star : What I mean is does it completely break it or just loose the ability to land?

[2018-08-20 06:51:24] jezzab : I believe its loses the Precision in the Precision Landing

[2018-08-20 09:35:38] erwin : is the creator of SilencioRC here in this slack?

[2018-08-20 09:36:08] erwin : <https://mavicpilots.com/threads/silence-your-rc-with-software.42891/>

[2018-08-20 09:37:00] validat0r : @jan2642 he

[2018-08-20 10:17:53] jezzab : I didnt realise it can use GameStream and i can play my PC games on the TV/Shield from my PC. Thats awesome (not that I really play games but still)

[2018-08-20 10:18:15] jezzab : I didnt get the Pro, just the 16Gb 2017/2018 edition or something. Ive already got a Plex server

[2018-08-20 14:02:34] mail451 : Is that available for Spark?

[2018-08-20 14:03:40] cs2000 : Not yet, i believe @jan2642 thinks it could work, but the risk of bricking the remote during testing is pretty high, so hasnt distributed a spark compatible version yet

[2018-08-20 14:06:01] jan2642 : I had very little time the last few weeks to work on it unfortunately.

[2018-08-20 14:10:35] jan2642 : Current status is that it _can_ work on MA RC but I haven’t tried it yet. I do have the patch ready though so it’s just a matter of finding time to try it. I have it working on Spark RC but that thing is a real pain to interface with… The only way to talk to the Spark RC is to connect to it’s wifi network. That doesn’t work well with server requests that the app currently needs for downloading the patches. It works well if you have multiple network interfaces but if don’t get it to work properly for people with only one network interface it’ll be a support hell.

[2018-08-20 14:12:45] jan2642 : Spark RC playing the ‘shareware’ startup/shutdown sound.

[2018-08-20 14:50:30] erwin : Are you going to release the one with the custom message and custom sounds?

[2018-08-20 14:51:07] erwin : The thing works perfectly on my mavic, so annoying that dji does not provides a way (but I get their point too)

[2018-08-20 14:53:46] jan2642 : It’s not completely finished yet.. I really hope to be able to release it next week.

[2018-08-20 15:44:28] nocommie : I will want to pick your brain on the plex server sometime. Been thinking about setting one up.

[2018-08-20 16:48:13] borillion_star : I'm curious about the startup Sound the Mavic Pro makes, there is no piezo inside it is there?

[2018-08-20 16:51:49] jan2642 : It’s done with the propeller motors.

[2018-08-20 16:58:07] borillion_star : I figured it was something like that, thought it might be the gimbal motors vibrating. Makes more sense to do it from the props

[2018-08-20 17:16:11] good.win.alexs : Its always made with motors :) i have bigger drone, made by myself - and its same

[2018-08-20 18:45:46] borillion_star : Ooooo this looks fun <http://cosmostreamer.com/wired/howtomake>

[2018-08-20 19:11:27] aciid : @jan2642 can the startup sound be removed from the AC or is it essential to some testing procedure that it runs on startup?

[2018-08-20 23:05:53] lolo780 : Don't know, but the esc board will chime without the core board plugged in

[2018-08-21 05:44:24] jan2642 : As far as I know, it’s the FC that drives the startup sound.

[2018-08-21 07:39:20] good.win.alexs : on custom drones this sound is driven by ESC firmware, and it’s always non-removable

[2018-08-21 07:39:33] good.win.alexs : for brushless motors

[2018-08-21 08:42:17] mefisto : Yeah, on ph3 this is controlled by ESC. But we can modify esc firmware...

[2018-08-21 08:55:42] erwin : <https://photos.app.goo.gl/kSejiqwn7j1jsszd7> after some tests I discovered that I can charge 2 mavic pro batteries (from 30% to 100%) with the LifePowr A3 (solar panel disconnected). So it is a nice option for mobile charging. There is still 6Wh remaining after the 2 mavic batteries, enough for recharging a little bit more the phone/RC

[2018-08-21 14:05:32] capra_vecinului : I am managing quite the same out of a Goal Zero Sherpa 100 power pack.

[2018-08-21 14:56:02] erwin : Nice! what I didn't like of other powerpacks is that you need to carry the custom adapter :confused: instead of USB-C as input

[2018-08-22 00:32:43] doubleohasian : What stress-testing software do you guys use for CPU and GPU test? I am experiencing an issue sometimes my GPU doesn't work. Computer is booted and running but GPU doesn't seem to function. I know this because team viewer allows me to log into my computer from my phone. I suspect thermal issues.

[2018-08-22 00:33:42] doubleohasian : @aciid got any input?

[2018-08-22 00:49:35] jezzab : Could use `furmark` if you need something small and quick to load up your GPU @doubleohasian

[2018-08-22 00:51:46] doubleohasian : thanks, I'll give it a look. I think I might have a slightly less than legal version of 3dmark on one of these hard drives floating around.

[2018-08-22 00:52:59] jezzab : <https://geeks3d.com/furmark/downloads/>

[2018-08-22 00:53:04] jezzab : its about 8mb. but it will certainly warm up you GPU to test

[2018-08-22 00:53:33] doubleohasian : that's tiny, I'll give it a go. thanks

[2018-08-22 04:47:27] will042082 : I have a 2nd mavic AIR controller I can test it on. I hate that fucking sound

[2018-08-22 05:08:27] will042082 : New toy coming in Thursday :yum:

[2018-08-22 05:08:38] will042082 :

[2018-08-22 05:55:25] c.binetti : How much?

[2018-08-22 07:18:19] good.win.alexs : Brand? Model?

[2018-08-22 07:26:59] ender : @doubleohasian i load up furmark. It stresses GPU and also has a CPU Burner that you can run in parallel.

[2018-08-22 07:27:14] ender : checked my mining rigs with it in the good ol times.

[2018-08-22 10:45:01] will042082 : It’s a UVify Draco HD, same price as DJI toys, but he does 100mph :yum:

[2018-08-22 10:48:18] good.win.alexs : nice

[2018-08-22 10:48:50] will042082 : Got a whole slew of toys em route. Wait til you guys see the AIR. It’s on the bench right now but I’m telling you that fucker won’t die. I clipped a tree, and it fell, recovered, right into another tree, then another. Lol

[2018-08-22 10:49:20] will042082 :

[2018-08-22 10:49:36] will042082 : Minimal damage considering.

[2018-08-22 10:50:17] will042082 : Only broke the SMA connection on the right arm, and needed a bath

[2018-08-22 10:51:58] will042082 : Gave me an excuse to open it back up and do what I’ve been wanting to do for a bit. I can’t wait til I’m done. It’ll be the greatest DJI step child ever

[2018-08-22 11:58:44] c.binetti : Did the additional SMA work as expected?

[2018-08-22 12:49:24] will042082 : It allowed for different antennas over stock. Tested high gain 5.8ghz mushrooms with great success

[2018-08-22 13:12:10] c.binetti : Still foldable as before?

[2018-08-22 13:48:49] will042082 : Yep. You can remove the antennas, or leave em on just depends on antenna size

[2018-08-23 05:19:13] borillion_star : so poking at the movidus firmware, its similar to whats running on the Intel Neural compute stick firmware. Sparc architecture. going to try and see if I can't get onto my stick

[2018-08-24 15:33:51] kool.stout12 : New IBM Drone Patent!!:astonished:

[2018-08-24 15:50:56] validat0r : The flying saucer?

[2018-08-24 16:50:38] cantrepeat : flying barista?

[2018-08-25 04:08:06] borillion_star : Coffee delivering drone. What can go wrong :thinking_face::rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

[2018-08-25 04:10:15] jezzab : Dammit. Still waiting for the beer drone

[2018-08-25 04:17:10] borillion_star : @jezzab just for you. Sphincter drone.

[2018-08-25 04:17:16] borillion_star : <https://youtu.be/JE050xGj-8E>

[2018-08-25 04:18:46] jezzab : Hmm i find that intriguing and somewhat disturbing, yet i couldnt look away

[2018-08-25 04:19:06] borillion_star : Lol yep

[2018-08-25 04:21:16] borillion_star : anyways back to reversing VPU firmware

[2018-08-25 04:54:16] borillion_star : Btw this thing has two cpu types in it so no promises, I have never worked with anything like this monstrosity.

[2018-08-25 04:54:18] borillion_star : <https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/movidius/microarchitectures/shave_v2.0>

[2018-08-25 04:56:34] borillion_star : more here if any interest <http://eyesofthings.eu/wp-content/uploads/deliverables/EoT_D2.3.pdf>

[2018-08-25 04:57:06] borillion_star : <http://uploads.movidius.com/1441734401-Myriad-2-product-brief.pdf>

[2018-08-25 04:57:21] borillion_star : Is it ok to be scared? LOL

[2018-08-25 14:06:39] aciid : <https://www.facebook.com/144884185719267/posts/963972153810462/> oh look another propertiary digital vtx

[2018-08-25 14:06:44] aciid : <https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40009450_963967137144297_8870229698244771840_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=7dc4a433ecefea653e2de828282e8c82&oe=5BF3BF19>

[2018-08-25 14:06:48] aciid : mpcie spotted

[2018-08-25 14:06:57] aciid : ez-wifibroadcast clone or more like "commercialized" version

[2018-08-25 15:46:13] good.win.alexs : Most probably built from wifibroadcast bones

[2018-08-25 16:33:49] aciid : yeah they are claiming 0latency

[2018-08-25 16:33:54] aciid : suspicious

[2018-08-25 16:34:13] aciid :

[2018-08-25 17:27:59] good.win.alexs : Its physically not possible :) any digital transmission will give at least 50-80ms latency

[2018-08-25 17:28:07] good.win.alexs : And this is in theory

[2018-08-25 17:28:59] good.win.alexs : Practically, its 120+ ms. I spend a lot time on wifibroadcast :)

[2018-08-25 17:29:13] good.win.alexs : I have drone currently with it ))

[2018-08-25 17:30:38] ender : again: someone wants to buy a WiDV, pretty much optimized to “zero” and good when connection is intermittant

[2018-08-26 13:26:48] chipmangini : <https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2024/DEF%20CON%2024%20presentations/DEFCON-24-Aaron-Luo-Drones-Hijacking-Multi-Dimensional-Attack-Vectors-And-Countermeasures-UPDATED.pdf>

[2018-08-27 10:15:23] jezzab : Here is a mystery im trying to solve and makes no sense. I have a HDHomeRun Connect (dual DVBT tuner IP streamer). If i watch with say the app or Plex or any client, the reception is poor and a bit choppy. If i start another app on my phone or PC watching either the same channel(shares the tuner) or another channel (uses the second tuner) the picture is perfect on all devices including the first one. The moment I stop the second stream, the first one turns to shit. wtf

[2018-08-27 10:15:58] jezzab : To get around it im doing `wget -O- <http://10.0.0.80:5004/auto/v90> > /dev/null &` on my server for my favorite channel all the time haha

[2018-08-27 10:54:47] mefisto : Sounds like GPU issue. Streaming probably requires the GPU to read the image, and that forces disabling some optimizations. Graphics need to work a bit different if CPU requires access to framebuffer, ie via glReadPixels.

[2018-08-27 18:46:42] capra_vecinului : Lol. If I'm not mistaking the nicknames, it was our OG czokie that made Chris Rollins eat Vegemite :smile: <https://youtu.be/d-QgNDaC9ak>

[2018-08-28 06:21:49] jezzab : waaaaaaay too thick with the Vegemite. eeew

[2018-08-28 09:10:47] cantrepeat : doesn't vegemite double as axle grease in a pinch?

[2018-08-28 10:19:01] mefisto : They call it sour? For me it tastes like salt. Not much else gets through the salt.

[2018-08-28 10:20:37] mefisto : But I only tried the British variation; heard AUS one is better.

[2018-08-28 10:33:52] cantrepeat : Dunno I only ate it once back in 87 when I was in the Oz

[2018-08-28 10:34:09] cantrepeat : very sticky, need a hearty bread to hold it.

[2018-08-28 10:45:43] jezzab : Buttered toast, a very light smear. Job done

[2018-08-28 10:46:38] jezzab : Can kinda taste bitter, salty and very over powering otherwise

[2018-08-28 12:27:15] ls7454 : marmite but parwill

[2018-08-28 15:55:42] lolo780 : Sounds like DJI

[2018-08-28 15:55:55] lolo780 : Leaves you bitter and salty

[2018-08-28 17:47:01] ben_lin : lol

[2018-08-29 23:42:11] erwin : anyone here knows if the CW props are exactly the opposite to the CCW props? or they have a different design in general? (I have a small fpv drone and 2 props are way stronger -measured with a wind meter- than the other 2 ones, but I am not sure if the motors are fucked or it is just coincidence)

[2018-08-30 06:10:17] good.win.alexs : Normally, they should be like 1:1 mirrored

[2018-08-30 17:31:44] aciid :

[2018-08-30 17:32:46] aciid :

[2018-08-30 17:40:55] validat0r : props and cinnamon?

[2018-08-30 18:08:20] aciid : took a week to find these standoffs

[2018-08-30 18:44:49] aciid : Inside this sticker/label

[2018-09-03 18:48:42] hello : Here's a news story doing the rounds on some UK sites "Drone Pilot Had a Go at Taking Down a Plane" <http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2018/09/drone-pilot-had-a-go-at-taking-down-a-plane/>

[2018-09-03 19:15:59] cantrepeat : Well, that makes all the reason for aeroscope.

[2018-09-03 19:47:36] erwin : <https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=164852> <- free key for MS Hyperlapse Pro

[2018-09-03 21:02:30] capra_vecinului : Call me paranoid, but I might have a theory here, and ask for your validation (or laughter & mockery): Looking into the list of software / hardware features of the MP and the M2P, I noticed the following: - M2P has new downward LEDs (hardware), and yet no precision landing enabled (software) - M2P has new obstacle avoidance sensors to its sides (hardware), and yet these work - at the moment - only in active track and tripod mode (software) - M2P has a great new camera (hardware), and yet no "Course Lock", "Waypoints" (!!!) "Home Lock", "Follow Me" or "Terrain Follow" modes enabled yet (software) - M2P has a new, intelligent 4s power unit (hardware), but no user customizable automatic discharge timeframe (software) Am I the only one here seeing a common denominator (software), and the very big effort of DJI making future software upgrades very compelling and attractive?

[2018-09-03 21:10:35] mefisto : That looks suspicious... may be many reasons for it. ie. maybe Dji fired most of its programmers due to neglecting security, and now they have delays at software division? Or maybe they want micro-transactions for these features?

[2018-09-03 21:16:10] capra_vecinului : Well, being one of the users who stopped upgrading at the famous 0.700 (no future bells and whistles offered by DJI in their following upgrades would have made me trade in the liberty gained by the "4-th of July" mods!) I wonder if someone learned from their mistakes :wink:

[2018-09-03 21:29:13] kilrah : more like they're completely overwhelmed as usual and management wanted the thing out before they could implement or test everything...

[2018-09-03 21:30:20] cantrepeat : Well, freedom restored with FC Patcher.

[2018-09-03 23:22:51] fredmicrowave : @catalinaskirace Than may be the justification for more control, but not the solution for malicious activities...

[2018-09-04 07:58:21] erwin : Anyone with the Mavic2 and MP? is the shape of the remote exactly the same? specially top and bottom? (that glossy part with the dji logo, and the part where the USB-A goes?, excluding the holes for the thumbstick)

[2018-09-04 08:19:29] mathieu.peyrega : Maybe they lost the password of the github / amazon server were they stored the source code of old modules ?

[2018-09-04 08:45:43] ender : Even MORE likely they just dont care as they know the fanboys will buy whatever they throw out, no matter how half baked it may be :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-09-04 08:52:17] validat0r : i'm sure OGs could help out

[2018-09-04 08:56:52] ender : NSA got a backup

[2018-09-04 14:21:53] validat0r : so nice, after 4h of compilation, error fix is to copy some ld over another and do a "make clean"

[2018-09-04 14:28:17] aciid : terrorists are using DTFM callcodes to remotely control a car, we shall ban all mobilephones

[2018-09-04 14:28:26] aciid : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9tlDIhpMHo>

[2018-09-04 19:32:40] cantrepeat : Mobizen screen recorder is a great little tool, but month sub fees for a screen cap widget is just wrong.

[2018-09-04 20:43:47] aciid : @catalinaskirace MIUI rom comes with that feature which is in all MI phones

[2018-09-04 20:44:20] aciid : or are you talking about some other platform perhaps

[2018-09-04 21:13:32] cantrepeat : Trying to get a nice screen recorder for crystalsky that doesn't lag

[2018-09-04 21:36:32] cantrepeat : That little door over the UBS port on the MPP, I'm going to end up breaking it off!

[2018-09-05 06:31:40] lolo780 : You can remove it

[2018-09-05 06:32:12] lolo780 : Take the bottom off and use a pick to push the rubber strap out

[2018-09-08 23:01:37] aciid : ir punchout at hometown <3

[2018-09-08 23:36:40] cantrepeat : lol, even though, the IR footage looks damn good.

[2018-09-09 13:20:02] d95gas : shout out to the community. just acquired a Da Vinci Duo 3D printer. NEVER touched this sort of thing previously, but everything I read recommends using "Simplify3D". Anyone have any links to Demo "cough" version. Dont mind paying if I can get into it, but dont want to waste valuable coins if 3D printing is not for me......

[2018-09-09 13:34:30] timopro : Simplify3D is worth every cents...

[2018-09-09 13:53:39] kilrah : +1

[2018-09-09 14:38:01] d95gas : Yep doing so much reading today my eyes hurt :slightly_smiling_face: and everywhere I go and read S3D comes up. Just reading about flashing to "Repetier" but seems like a lot of hassle if standard behaves well with S3D. Had this printer sat in the office for 5months now and never turned on..... Been a bit nervous about it. Only reason I am getting to sort it now, is I need a tablet holder for the Anafi and came across one on Thingverse...... so thats the driver

[2018-09-09 14:51:25] buundy : I use s3d too with our prusa i3 mk3, it works well

[2018-09-09 14:51:44] buundy : I like the customizable support placement ability

[2018-09-09 15:10:02] d95gas : Question for you 3D guru's then..... Advantages/disadvantages of using ABS/PLA ...... and what am I best learning with?

[2018-09-09 15:12:27] kilrah : PLA is fine for a lot of stuff

[2018-09-09 15:12:54] kilrah : ABS is shite, I use PETG or PC instead if I need flexibility/heat resistance

[2018-09-09 15:48:31] buundy : Pla is very easy to print

[2018-09-09 15:48:52] buundy : Learn the basics with that

[2018-09-09 15:49:17] buundy : Abs needs more care, heated chamber etc

[2018-09-09 15:51:54] timopro : I use PETG, resistant and easy to print..start with PLA...I also use Ninja Flex... I use a Prusa I3 MK2...multi colour..

[2018-09-09 16:25:12] d95gas : Ok thats great info guys, PLA it is then for the novice :slightly_smiling_face: I shall go do some web shopping

[2018-09-09 16:26:26] kilrah : if you want a tablet holder you'll need something more temperature resistant

[2018-09-09 16:26:38] kilrah : or at least a bright color

[2018-09-09 16:39:09] d95gas : @kilrah thanks for that, I shall bear that in mind...... so much to take in, not stopped reading since around 8 this morning :slightly_smiling_face: brain is about fried

[2018-09-09 16:46:04] kilrah : lol, will take a few months of experimenting :smile:

[2018-09-09 16:46:44] d95gas : @timopro Just looked at the Prusa on Amazon.... decent price.... Looks far more professional than the Da Vinci Duo :slightly_smiling_face: ....... If I am looking at the right one: <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Printers-Precision-Self-assembly-Equipped-Installation/dp/B071LG1TH2/ref=sr_1_7?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1536511466&sr=1-7&keywords=prusa+i3>

[2018-09-09 16:50:53] kilrah : ahhh but the davinci is one of those BS xyzprinting ones with proprietary filament spools

[2018-09-09 16:51:26] kilrah : that sucks

[2018-09-09 16:53:10] kilrah : to use anything other then their only choices of PLA/ABS you've got to either reflash it or use a <http://www.wctek.com/shop/home/28-xyzerocart.html>

[2018-09-09 16:55:49] kilrah : or use this with a few original carts... <https://www.ebay.com/itm/XYZ-Printing-da-Vinci-Filament-Cartridge-Counter-Resetter-Reset-Tool-/131394592808>

[2018-09-09 16:59:34] d95gas : Ahhhh yes.... one of the pitfalls I have read about. As the Da Vinci was a freebie from a site I closed down, I thought it would be good to start with. Looking at some of the more pro 3D printers that take all materials, will be the next jump I think.. Thanks for the links

[2018-09-09 17:14:10] kilrah : ah yup, free always works :smile:

[2018-09-09 17:14:41] kilrah : and you CAN print other materials, jsut need to hack a bit... like DJI :smile:

[2018-09-09 19:47:14] buundy : I think that prusa is one of the most innovative and open minded company inthis field

[2018-09-09 19:47:29] buundy : I stick with them

[2018-09-09 21:03:46] jakub : same

[2018-09-10 00:22:24] fredmicrowave : No Cura users ? It's free ad has been working great with my cheap printer.

[2018-09-10 06:42:47] erwin : Cura ftw. Also lastest version open directly the source file, not just stl

[2018-09-10 06:50:48] buundy : I will try it also

[2018-09-10 06:54:31] d95gas : My son-in-law has just been bitten and ordered the Prusa i3..... should be here tomorrow, so will see what he makes of it all...... Yet something else to spend cash on :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-10 07:48:57] kilrah : cura works fine too, but at the time I got my new printer last year (which came with it) it had an issue with supports, so I just switched to S3D which is known for its support handling

[2018-09-10 07:59:06] erwin : BTW, for the best finish when printing accessories with <https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/6535a368-9f0c-4959-9b30-2340e858de3d/svn/black-matte-plasti-dip-rubberized-coatings-11603-6-64_1000.jpg> for rubberizing printed parts, and it works wonderfully <https://photos.app.goo.gl/PMAHdK38i2oBif9y6>

[2018-09-10 08:09:38] d95gas : S3D will be ordered by him..... Nice tip on the PlastiDip.... Used it a lot in the custom car side of things..... So much new stuff to learn :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-10 12:10:46] aciid : is creality ender 3 worth it?

[2018-09-10 12:11:12] aciid : I had a wanhao x2 duplicator which was out of calib for it's whole life

[2018-09-10 12:14:42] cs2000 : Haha Plastidip! I always wondered why it was called " **Dip** ", ive only ever seen it in spray cans, didnt know it was available as a liquid you could dip things into. Makes sense now! Never thought of treating 3d parts with it, would likely work pretty good!

[2018-09-10 12:19:22] aciid : I had some memory of people vaporing acetone in glass-boxes to treat prints in the early days,probably still works

[2018-09-10 12:19:40] jezzab : with ABS yes

[2018-09-10 12:20:19] jezzab : You can also wipe it if you do it right and it comes up quite well. Not shiney like vapour though

[2018-09-10 12:20:25] jezzab : And it makes it stronger

[2018-09-10 12:20:30] cs2000 : Yeah, works well with ABS, PLA which i use doesnt respond the same way.

[2018-09-10 12:20:43] cs2000 : Cant stand the eye burning smell that ABS makes when im sat next to my printer

[2018-09-10 12:21:07] aciid : I think i need to get back into printing, problem with the wanhao model was it made so silly noises that my cats got scared of it

[2018-09-10 12:21:35] aciid : servo encoders are fine, but thing slamming back to back fast is not something cats are accustomed to

[2018-09-10 12:22:27] cs2000 : My fiance doesn't like the noises mine makes :joy:, so i can only really print when shes out/away, especially longer prints. The motors are pretty noisy on mine even though it fully enclosed.

[2018-09-10 13:05:31] fredmicrowave : "Finger painting" with 2-component epoxy works well too. It fills irregularities, you can then sandpaper if you want a really smooth surface.

[2018-09-10 13:06:34] mathieu.peyrega : you mean digital painting ?

[2018-09-10 13:06:46] mathieu.peyrega : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-10 13:07:40] validat0r : you mean it fills your fingerprints? perfect crime incoming.

[2018-09-10 13:09:12] fredmicrowave : I am the only one using my finger(s) to paint some small parts ? :joy:

[2018-09-10 13:22:01] kilrah : I actually like ABS smell... just not the material :joy:

[2018-09-10 13:23:42] cs2000 : haha, i find that if im printing and using my PC, after an hour or so my eyes start to burn. PLA actually smells like not a whole lot, much sweeter, less "melted plastic" smell. Although i fully understand you really should be printing in a ventilated room or extracting the fumes properly, the reality is i bet most 3d printers are in peoples offices/spare bedrooms

[2018-09-10 13:25:48] kilrah : yeah i have my printer in my "workshop" room and usually close the door for noise reasons but keeps the smell out as well - has webcam to watch what happens from my PC :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-09-10 13:27:13] cs2000 : Nothing worse than getting 9 hrs into a 13 hour print and finding a plastic spaghetti monster in there...

[2018-09-10 13:27:22] cs2000 : *speaks from experience*

[2018-09-10 13:27:41] kilrah :

[2018-09-10 13:27:52] kilrah : heh, sure... not happening often fortunately

[2018-09-10 13:28:28] cs2000 : Nice setup :slightly_smiling_face: Naa me neither had it happen probably twice ever

[2018-09-10 13:38:47] cantrepeat : I so want a lathe!!

[2018-09-10 13:42:00] kilrah : heh :slightly_smiling_face: i stopped telling myself that about a year ago

[2018-09-10 13:42:23] kilrah : not using it a ton but really convenient to have when needed

[2018-09-10 13:43:14] kilrah :

[2018-09-10 13:43:22] kilrah :

[2018-09-10 13:44:02] cantrepeat : Yup, that last photo is my needs all day long!

[2018-09-10 13:44:17] cantrepeat : My shop is mess on a much dirtier scale!

[2018-09-10 13:45:00] kilrah : well bigger mostly :smile:

[2018-09-10 13:45:48] cantrepeat : If I'd put stuff away after a project it might not be so bad.

[2018-09-10 13:46:17] cantrepeat : I'm working on a mount for my CrystalSky that incorporates a ring for a lanyard.

[2018-09-10 13:47:10] cantrepeat : The one I bought from mavmount wont let you plug into the bottom of the CS.

[2018-09-10 13:47:15] kilrah : hehe aren't we all like that...

[2018-09-10 13:47:49] kilrah : cool

[2018-09-10 13:48:29] kilrah : I did this this weekend, inbetween trips to bed becasue of freaking sick <https://imgur.com/a/6MubucJ>

[2018-09-10 13:48:52] kilrah : mm poor thumbnail lol

[2018-09-10 14:12:14] cantrepeat : Sorry was in the shop, what is it?

[2018-09-10 14:13:39] kilrah : well click the link - cnc'd alu cover for a small handheld pc

[2018-09-10 14:34:58] cantrepeat : AH!! didn't see there was a gallery of photos on the project. Very nice. You have a mill too? jelly factor is out of control now.

[2018-09-10 14:35:50] kilrah : :stuck_out_tongue: yup hiding under the 3D printer when not in use

[2018-09-10 14:38:26] kilrah : was my first actual 3D alu part... otherwise had pretty much only done 2D routing in carbon or plastic

[2018-09-10 14:51:15] aciid : boss gave me a MP1 to take a part "flew it in the ocean, by accident"

[2018-09-10 14:54:13] kilrah : lol

[2018-09-10 14:58:07] aciid : theres a red sticker inside, I assume this is a water spotter

[2018-09-10 15:18:09] aciid : Mmm rocksalt

[2018-09-10 15:18:37] cantrepeat : @kilrah Is you mill CNC? If so what software are you using to make your files in?

[2018-09-10 15:18:44] cantrepeat : your*

[2018-09-10 15:19:16] cantrepeat : wow, that bird is nasty for sure.

[2018-09-10 15:21:35] aciid : gimball seems dead

[2018-09-10 15:22:08] aciid : DJI would have probably changed whole thing

[2018-09-10 15:24:43] kilrah : ouch ugly

[2018-09-10 15:24:53] kilrah : @catalinaskirace Fusion360 for the CAM

[2018-09-10 15:25:00] cs2000 : Wow, that things gotta be 100% dead!

[2018-09-10 15:28:33] aciid : he was kind to give the sunken battery too, that found it's rightful place at our balcony in a steel pan pot

[2018-09-10 15:29:22] kilrah : it's probably down to 0 already, salt quickly migrates through the foil of li cells and kills them from the inside

[2018-09-10 15:40:43] aciid : weird even the gimbal works, now after some "dusting". but the gimbal pans ever so slightly to left and or right depending which way you stick the stick

[2018-09-10 15:41:14] kilrah : that's normal behavior

[2018-09-10 15:41:19] aciid : thought so

[2018-09-10 15:41:50] kilrah : can be disabled in settings but it's way better on

[2018-09-10 15:42:11] aciid : hmm is that realigning relevant to the autofocus functionality?

[2018-09-10 15:42:16] aciid : I dont use AF myself

[2018-09-10 15:42:19] aciid : I click to focus

[2018-09-10 15:42:36] kilrah : no, just to yaw behavior

[2018-09-10 15:43:11] aciid : oh, also seems that this is most recent dangerous fw.

[2018-09-10 15:43:13] kilrah : camera moves first when you move the stick then aircraft follows, so you've got instant camera feedback

[2018-09-10 15:43:18] aciid : I don't know anything about this fw

[2018-09-10 15:43:35] aciid : its not unlocked, and I wont do it in this occasion

[2018-09-10 15:43:46] kilrah : with that off the aircraft starts turning but the camera compensates it so you see nothing move and have a lag before it starts to follow, very disturbing

[2018-09-10 15:43:50] aciid : ahh

[2018-09-10 15:44:17] aciid : thanks for telling me, I actually thought its un-normal behaviour

[2018-09-10 15:44:31] aciid : I've never seen this

[2018-09-10 15:44:59] kilrah : yeah it's only apparent on the ground

[2018-09-10 15:45:26] kilrah : when the mavic came out people who don't understand much thought it was a bug and/or complained that they didn't want it to do that :smile:

[2018-09-10 15:45:37] kilrah : instead of realising it's actually helping a lot

[2018-09-10 15:49:34] aciid : RC antennas wont fold back to "carry" position without force

[2018-09-10 15:49:44] aciid : i have a gut feeling of under 10 total flight hours

[2018-09-10 18:27:42] quad808 : <https://www.dipyourcar.com/>

[2018-09-10 18:35:12] t3rm1 : doing it with foil is probably the better idea

[2018-09-10 18:36:54] mathieu.peyrega : and head dipping works too ? <https://www.amazon.fr/Greyland-Fantomas-Masque-Latex-Carnaval/dp/B072SNFKXL>

[2018-09-10 19:07:52] validat0r : it stays together when peeling off?

[2018-09-10 19:08:04] validat0r : ah .. if it's thick engough

[2018-09-10 19:08:41] quad808 : yep....you need like 7-8 coats, but light coats, then another one when the first is dry...thick won't work

[2018-09-10 19:09:55] quad808 : I think I did all 4 rims on my car in one day, without taking them off the car. Just covered the brakes. I think I painted every 15 minutes. This stuff dries quick. Lots of tube videos

[2018-09-10 19:10:12] cantrepeat : It's rubbery so does it deflect rocks? Could do like the first 6 inches of your hood.

[2018-09-10 19:10:59] quad808 : Its pretty tough, but the hard part is doing edges. Not so good. Hard to do a fine edge.

[2018-09-11 03:42:19] quad808 : This is a good deal on an Anafi... Drone, + extra battery + 1 memory card $699.99 <https://www.bestbuy.com/site/parrot-anafi-quadcopter-with-remote-controller-black/6251616.p?ref=8575135&loc=52b25492b57411e8987b0e2c2394bcf60INT&acampID=52b25492b57411e8987b0e2c2394bcf60INT&skuId=6251616>

[2018-09-11 03:48:16] lolo780 : I wonder how far it can fly

[2018-09-11 09:37:10] dnapappas0112 : Hey guys, trying to get some opinions on what 3d printer I should buy. Looking for good quality, good support, good accuracy, non-proprietary if possible, dual, and of course good price. I have never used one before, thats why Im trying to get some input from people that have. I'm a machinist by trade and electronics tech. I dont think Ill have any problem learning to use it even if its a somewhat complicated unit. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.

[2018-09-11 10:34:33] cantrepeat : I bought a mavmount with a lanyard and clip for my CS, needless to say the clip wouldn't allow using the lower plug on the CS. When I emailed mavmount about the flawed design then said to just plug into the side of the CS.

[2018-09-11 10:36:40] cantrepeat : So screw them, I made a new mount with lanyard clip on it. Holds the RC and the CS in a better way for viewing now.

[2018-09-11 10:59:06] good.win.alexs : 95 bucks for mount??? :astonished::face_with_hand_over_mouth:

[2018-09-11 10:59:10] good.win.alexs : <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32918315683.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.7e502e0e0peQoE>

[2018-09-11 10:59:36] good.win.alexs : $32 and no problems with bottom port

[2018-09-11 10:59:54] good.win.alexs : aaand, it’s foldable :wink:

[2018-09-11 11:04:58] cantrepeat : Yeah, I'm a rookiee owner.

[2018-09-11 11:06:32] cantrepeat : My good man @good.win.alexs ----> Can not deliver to United States this is my sad face :disappointed:

[2018-09-11 11:06:47] good.win.alexs : ouch

[2018-09-11 11:06:55] good.win.alexs : i can send you if you want )))

[2018-09-11 11:07:05] cantrepeat : #hero!!

[2018-09-11 11:07:22] good.win.alexs : 2week to get there, and 1-2weeks to US

[2018-09-11 11:07:55] cantrepeat : If I didn't use the one I made I'd feel ever worse! tnx though.

[2018-09-11 11:38:22] kilrah : lol, stupid, they could have jsut extended their loop a bit and it would work

[2018-09-11 12:30:54] erwin : cheapest chinese if you want the challenge. Or original prusa if you want easy level... or ultimaker if you want to pay

[2018-09-11 12:32:55] good.win.alexs : @lowellfoo780 just found accidentally your posts on mavicpilots

[2018-09-11 12:33:07] good.win.alexs : so, holes on arms are really helping to cool down motors?

[2018-09-11 14:50:12] aciid : @good.win.alexs I have this <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Remote-Control-Holder-bracket-Phone-Tablet-Front-bracket-Holder-for-DJI-Mavic-Air-DJI-Pro-Platinum/32866401563.html> its good if you want to still use the phonemount for the phone

[2018-09-11 14:50:17] aciid : has not opened or broken yet

[2018-09-11 14:51:00] good.win.alexs : I have already one mount :)

[2018-09-11 14:51:50] good.win.alexs : Now working on new antenna. Wanna make Frankenstein from sphere helixes and 2W boosters in custom case

[2018-09-11 14:52:16] good.win.alexs : Smthg like Alientech, but something that works as expected )))

[2018-09-11 15:24:39] aciid : @good.win.alexs do you have a VNA? I heard that 2W "generig" boosters are gr8 for any 2.4ghz project from flysky to frsky to dji

[2018-09-11 15:25:11] good.win.alexs : No, i dont

[2018-09-11 15:25:18] aciid : <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-DJI-Phantom-Spare-Part-2-4G-2W-Radio-Signal-Booster-Antenna-Feeder-For-FPV-Racing/32830518035.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.8.5dcbfa89HCaOEO&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10068_5016515_10059_5016715_10696_100031_10084_5016615_10083_10103_451_10618_452_10304_10307_10820_10821_5016415_10302,searchweb201603_54,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=c5c9e3ef-1e4f-4b12-ac7f-3bbce21fddf2-1&algo_pvid=c5c9e3ef-1e4f-4b12-ac7f-3bbce21fddf2&priceBeautifyAB=0>

[2018-09-11 15:25:31] aciid : this can be applied to FPV radios and DJI radios

[2018-09-11 15:25:44] good.win.alexs : I took similar one. Maybe same

[2018-09-11 15:25:49] aciid : but some DJI radios are dualband

[2018-09-11 15:26:27] good.win.alexs : Planning to try on MP1

[2018-09-11 15:26:28] cantrepeat : I need 2w antenna !!!

[2018-09-11 15:26:29] aciid : those amps are more expensive, sunhau or similar produces them that are dualband

[2018-09-11 15:26:40] aciid : *sunhans

[2018-09-11 15:27:00] aciid : they are around 50-80€ , mavicpilots forum has tons of threads of the mods and they are legit

[2018-09-11 15:27:04] good.win.alexs : I took mine for 16$ per booster on sale )))

[2018-09-11 15:27:24] aciid : sunhans?

[2018-09-11 15:27:28] good.win.alexs : No

[2018-09-11 15:27:28] aciid : well thats a deal

[2018-09-11 15:27:55] aciid : the generic one is probably good enough just remember to shield it well

[2018-09-11 15:27:59] good.win.alexs : 2.4G Radio Signal Amplifier Signal Booster for RC Quadcopter Multicopter Drone For 2.4G Remote control <http://s.aliexpress.com/nQbEjQBJ?fromSns=Copy> to clipboard

[2018-09-11 15:28:18] good.win.alexs : Definitely i will shield them :-D

[2018-09-11 15:29:01] good.win.alexs : I have 3W sunhans on taranis - works great

[2018-09-11 15:29:35] good.win.alexs : But got good feedback on this cheap ones - decided to try with sphere helixes on mp

[2018-09-11 15:30:30] good.win.alexs : Will get antenna in 2 weeks, will tell about result :)

[2018-09-11 18:13:39] cantrepeat : @kilrah yeah and what's worse is their response to email about the issue.

[2018-09-11 18:14:53] cantrepeat : It's all good now. I offered feedback to someone from mavmount over on the mavicpilot forums. We'll see how they take it.

[2018-09-11 18:15:05] kilrah : yup especially given the prices and "high end" they show themselves off as...

[2018-09-11 20:07:17] good.win.alexs : @aciid i think this booster should be fine

[2018-09-11 20:07:19] good.win.alexs : <https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Sunhans-SH24Gi20W-WiFi-Signal-Booster-11b-g-n-20W-Amplifier-Indoor-Enterprise-Class-2-4GHz-40dBm/916593_32217379532.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.3fed278cl4cPEt&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10059_5016711_5016511_10696_100031_10084_10083_10103_451_452_10618_5016411_10307_5016611,searchweb201603_54,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=487c4354-8acf-4c4b-85a2-f1d93d1b7575-0&algo_pvid=487c4354-8acf-4c4b-85a2-f1d93d1b7575&transAbTest=ae803_2&priceBeautifyAB=0>

[2018-09-11 20:07:21] good.win.alexs : :smile:

[2018-09-11 20:09:11] aciid : holey shit, well I'd definitely buy one after some measurements from their part

[2018-09-11 20:10:21] good.win.alexs : don’t forget metal trousers!

[2018-09-11 20:10:31] aciid : couldn't run that for long, I guess some hams would probably triangulate that pretty quick and give a proper whooping

[2018-09-11 20:11:16] good.win.alexs : if you will be playing with something like Yagi or Helix - just point antenna on this guys :smile:

[2018-09-11 20:11:17] aciid : a good old whoopdown with a coaxial cable

[2018-09-12 01:39:33] cantrepeat : Does anyone here actually use Litchi?

[2018-09-12 07:11:41] kilrah : have it but almost never used it :confused:

[2018-09-12 07:44:35] ender : Did use it a lot in the good ol’ days :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-12 11:43:21] lee : Can Litchi let u fly the MP2 beyond the NFZ and above 500m?

[2018-09-12 11:46:46] d95gas : No, the DJI restrictions still stand.........

[2018-09-12 12:40:17] ender : i’ll assume that the SDK libs are also protected by secneo ?!

[2018-09-12 12:40:20] ender : (on litchi)

[2018-09-12 12:41:27] d95gas : I would of thought so, would of been foolish of DJI to let that one slip :slightly_smiling_face: although they do have a habit of screwing up, especially on the security level

[2018-09-12 12:44:01] good.win.alexs : @ender yes, sdk is enforced by “special” secneo

[2018-09-12 12:44:40] ender : Yup, DJI guys are stupid but not THAT stupid :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-12 19:45:23] t3rm1 : new cheap iphone avaiable soon hahahahha

[2018-09-12 21:13:23] chipmangini : Wow! <https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/10/impossible-aerospace-raises-9-4m-to-sell-drones-stuffed-with-battery-cells/amp/?__twitter_impression=true>

[2018-09-12 21:15:17] kilrah : discussed in ~general a day or 2 ago

[2018-09-12 21:15:41] chipmangini : :^P

[2018-09-12 22:15:43] cantrepeat : This just in US Congress limits drone flights by news professionals to 11 minutes. Puts aerospace drones out of business. :smile:

[2018-09-13 14:53:04] ender : Guys, a friend of mine wants to start “droning” and has offers for a Mavic Pro with one battery OR a Inspire 1 v1 with Zenmuse X3 and 2 batteries for 700 Euros (both used of course). Any idea which would be better ? (I would choose the MP hands down but i never owned or considered an Inspire). Any ideas for deciding besides the obvious (I1 larger and less range but more impressive looking and with HDMI output) ?!

[2018-09-13 15:02:31] good.win.alexs : if he wants great photos, and don’t care about size and weight - personally, i’ll go for inspire for sure

[2018-09-13 15:03:10] good.win.alexs : but it’s big and it will not ask you constantly “come on, go fly, i don’t want to collect dust” :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-13 15:03:31] good.win.alexs : and MP just pushes you to go and fly. just for fun

[2018-09-13 15:03:40] good.win.alexs : so, depends on purposes

[2018-09-13 15:03:45] ender : I know but he says he does not care for the size. As he has seen my various birds i believe him, he is new but he went with me several times.

[2018-09-13 15:04:13] good.win.alexs : i was also thinking same way when i was green

[2018-09-13 15:04:30] good.win.alexs : took my first Syma X5C - and decided that i want something big!

[2018-09-13 15:04:50] good.win.alexs : and made own 450 size drone. full custom, powerful engines. flies great!

[2018-09-13 15:05:00] good.win.alexs : but it is collecting dust for year already

[2018-09-13 15:05:21] good.win.alexs : and then i took MP1 - and i’m flying at least 1-2 times per week

[2018-09-13 15:05:31] good.win.alexs : even just to disturb birds around :smile:

[2018-09-13 15:09:41] ender : As i said, i am the same type, built HUGE DIY crafts myself and then went to smaller and smaller RTF :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-13 16:24:35] good.win.alexs : Evolutuon ftw

[2018-09-13 16:28:29] cantrepeat : Hell, I think the phatons are big and I'm glad I never got one. The Mavic is the sweet spot in my eyes. Small, easy to take with you and loads of fun to zoom around with.

[2018-09-13 17:15:51] kilrah : for images the mp is actually better than the x3...

[2018-09-13 17:16:15] kilrah : inspire looks cool and is impressive... but that ends there

[2018-09-13 17:21:42] quad808 : I agree with others. Smaller is the shizzles. Like some of you, I have my share of home built quads/hex copters. Big is impressive, Loud hex is impressive, but not practical AT ALL. Go with the MP all the way. Talk him out of the big bird. He will not fly it near as much. Being new...easier to want the big toys. Listen to all the grandpas in here. LOL

[2018-09-13 18:23:50] ender : I will tell him, i feel heis nearly sold on the MP1 :wink:

[2018-09-13 18:34:12] good.win.alexs : @ender even more. Tell him to take MP and put on the shelf

[2018-09-13 18:34:47] good.win.alexs : And buy something like Syma X5C - that guy is just indeatructable!

[2018-09-13 18:35:18] ender : Yes but for idiots you need DJI crafts, even my cat can fly it :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-13 18:35:27] good.win.alexs : Great trainer for first flights. To catch how to control drone, how to fly with VLOS

[2018-09-13 18:35:54] ender : I concur :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-13 18:36:11] good.win.alexs : Even now, sometimes im taking Syma to do crazy things ))) to make few stupid flips etc

[2018-09-13 18:36:11] ender : He wants to take photos, not fly so DJI is okay for him.

[2018-09-13 18:36:55] good.win.alexs : Ah, ok... I need fun first of all ))) and hack something ofcource

[2018-09-13 18:37:29] good.win.alexs : My Syma has Betaflight brain atm :-D crazy bird

[2018-09-13 18:37:39] ender : I told him to buy an ANAFI tbh but hes the kind of guy who puts form before function. I KNOW he will be tired of the noise soon and swap for an ANAFI but he has to learn for himself…

[2018-09-13 18:40:56] good.win.alexs : Noise? Mp is making so small of buzz :) big copters are loud! In 100 its hard to hear mavic :) and no sense to fly closer with it

[2018-09-13 18:41:47] good.win.alexs : And i never fly lower than 70m - its damn so dangerous to switch into spider-mode with all this flying cables

[2018-09-13 18:43:38] good.win.alexs : Just IMHO, but anafi looks like Kvazimodo

[2018-09-13 18:44:08] good.win.alexs : Zero aestetical pleasure

[2018-09-13 18:44:09] ender : No, sorry but the MP is f*cking loud. Of course not compared to my 2kW beast but compared to the Anafi. You dont have to buy an Anafi but please dont talk BS :slightly_smiling_face: If you want to fly near other people DJI is out until they deliver…

[2018-09-13 18:44:41] ender : I had them all, believe me…

[2018-09-13 18:44:56] good.win.alexs : If you are planning to fly just ahead ...

[2018-09-13 18:45:09] ender : No, round and round :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-09-13 18:45:21] good.win.alexs : )))

[2018-09-13 18:46:53] ender : Its so strange that DJI ingnored the noise after they put out the MP Platinum with low noise props and sine ESC i thought now they would hire someone with aerodynamics background but **nope**

[2018-09-13 19:12:35] quad808 : I have to say....I have 2 MP Pros, and EVO and an Anafi...along with a crap ton of home builds. The MP that I normally use is running carbon fiber low noise props and for a MP, it is quiet. Much quieter than the MP with regular props. The Anafi? Its a whisper compared to the MP. No joke. The Anafi is the real deal. Don't let the light weight and looks deceive you. Yes it looks like a toy, yes it feels like a toy, but it is no toy...no, it isn't a MP, but it takes fantastic video and is stable, even in high winds, which surprised the heck out of me. I don't need all the sensors, since I can actually fly something without worrying about hitting something else, and I don't need to worry about data leakage or NFZ. Is it BETTER than the MP? No, and not fair to do a direct comparison. The are completely different birds. More fair to compare the EVO with the MP, or MP2, since the camera is better than the MP on the EVO.

[2018-09-13 19:15:12] ender : yep different birds nails it.

[2018-09-13 19:15:32] ender : But if you dont want to be intrusive on people & animals Anafi is the one.

[2018-09-13 19:16:29] cantrepeat : @quad808 do they make CF props for MP/MPP ? Wondering if I can get even less prop noise.

[2018-09-13 19:17:38] ender : The CF i tried (low noise with wingtips) were horribly unbalanced

[2018-09-13 19:17:41] cantrepeat : they do, only 18us for 4 of them

[2018-09-13 19:18:18] cantrepeat : @ender well that's not good.

[2018-09-13 19:18:29] ender : But they may learned the trick by now :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-13 19:19:02] ender : On the Air you have a range of 5m left for video feed if you use CF props because of the inducted frequencies, lol

[2018-09-13 19:26:51] quad808 : @catalinaskirace I bought these: <https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B077NZK6G4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1> Others have bought them and not had good results. I got them, balanced them, had to check the screws in the middle, and sand them down a bit so that they sit flat, but for me....worth every penny. The MP on CF props is a different bird, very responsive compared to regular props, or low noise props. Testing these against the MPPlatinum low noise, these were slightly less noisy, and lower pitch sound, so not as distracting.

[2018-09-13 19:30:06] ender : Nope, a friend of mine. Mainly because of its optics i assume :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-13 19:30:13] ender : He is STILL considering it.

[2018-09-13 19:30:34] ender : He saw the MP1 when i had it. He only knows the I1 from YT videos..

[2018-09-13 19:30:41] ender : And of course it looks cool but….

[2018-09-13 19:30:59] ender : But i guess he will get a used Mp1

[2018-09-13 19:31:48] kilrah : i know, but the point is that the noise argument of the anafi has no place when an inspire is in consideration :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-09-13 19:32:40] ender : I know that guy and i know he wants to fly at similar places as i do at the end. So he will sooner or later scrap even the MP and buy an Anafi (or maybe the all silent Air 2) :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-13 19:32:43] ender : But lets see…

[2018-09-13 19:33:07] ender : I actually never heard or saw an Inspire in action, never a bird for me…

[2018-09-13 19:33:14] quad808 : LOL...big difference all around between those 2...

[2018-09-13 19:33:30] kilrah : really massive compared to these small things

[2018-09-13 19:33:45] ender : I do have a massive DIY myself so i know the drill :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-13 19:34:02] ender : but next to an I1 it looks like a Borg ship :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-13 19:34:11] kilrah : lol

[2018-09-13 19:34:20] ender : all epoxy and visible wires :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-13 19:35:27] quad808 : Someone is supposed to ask me...what is my favorite drone? Ok, I will ask myself...quad...what is your favorite drone? My hex builds that I built myself. When is the last time you flew one of them? Probably a year ago. They are just not practical. AT ALL.

[2018-09-13 19:36:08] ender : I still really like the MP if it werent for the noise and the lousy 4k bitrate…

[2018-09-13 19:36:19] ender : But it looks nice and flies rock solid.

[2018-09-13 19:37:05] ender : I was SO disappointed the M2's do not offer 4k60, i would’ve been tempted but like that they are void for me.

[2018-09-13 19:41:56] quad808 : Thats funny you say that....flies rock solid. After flying the Anafi, and the EVO, then flying the Pro right after, this past weekend....there was and is no comparison in flight characteristics. The MP wins, and it is not even close. Mature firmware and all. The EVO is good, but very, VERY twitchy...needs refinement in the firmware. The Anafi has other benifits, but I don't like to compare it against the other two. The MP2's are, of course, better designed than the MP, but I have not been impressed with the MP2 Pro's video sharpness. The Zoom on the other hand, looks spectacular, but for my use...not worth the upgrade price difference yet. I am open to it, and may change my mind, but for now..I just don't need it.

[2018-09-13 19:44:30] quad808 : I am no DJI fanboi, AT ALL but no question that they make the best drones, hardware wise. I am also not brand loyal either. Best tool for the job is the one you use and like, I say. Everyone is different.

[2018-09-13 20:00:11] kilrah : People jsut don't seem to understand the purpose of the pro

[2018-09-13 20:00:36] kilrah : yes it is soft - becasue YOU're supposed to do the post processing work

[2018-09-13 20:01:29] kilrah : you can sharpen but not get rid of oversharpening

[2018-09-13 20:01:49] kilrah : all other aircraft this class have until now been "consumer-sharpened"

[2018-09-13 20:02:14] kilrah : this one is filling the gap that was lacking for pros who want the processing ability

[2018-09-13 20:04:04] ender : @kilrah: people are used to oversharpened & overstaurated images so they cannot see the great Quality of the Pro. Get used to it. When i was running around adjusting Heidelberger Drum scanners people complained about “soft images” afterwards until i showed them 400% zooms of the images before and after. Thats the way people are :wink:

[2018-09-13 20:04:50] kilrah : so definitely not what your average Joe should buy, there's the zoom for that, which is miles above the old MP even without considering the zoom feature

[2018-09-13 20:05:38] quad808 : Yep, I get it...but straight out of the camera it should be sharper than it is. Maybe I have just not seen corrected footage that shows off the potential

[2018-09-13 20:06:01] ender : well i want a pro-zoom-low-noise-400g-no_NFZ-no-dataleak-10km_range-drone. (Below $2000) Is that really to much to ask for :wink:

[2018-09-13 20:06:02] kilrah : nope, becasue that would hamper PP leeway

[2018-09-13 20:06:30] kilrah : just consider straight out of camera is not a thing with it, period

[2018-09-13 20:06:44] ender : like with log video quad

[2018-09-13 20:06:47] kilrah : just like footage straight out of a RED is totally unusable

[2018-09-13 20:06:54] ender : The truth is out there :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-13 20:08:03] quad808 : yep....thats why the Pro is not for me...I don't have the time, nor energy to PP everything...been there, done that.

[2018-09-13 20:08:39] kilrah : that's why i ordered a zoom as well

[2018-09-13 20:08:57] quad808 : Well...you are an animal, 'nuff said. LOL

[2018-09-13 20:09:03] kilrah : ?

[2018-09-13 20:09:24] ender : I heartily agree. I cannot get it in my head why they cannot add **high quality** Sharpness & Denoising & Interpolation (and maybe even grading or at least simple gradation curves) with those all-so-mighty GPU’s in there…

[2018-09-13 20:09:24] quad808 : Animal meaning...a compliment...extreme

[2018-09-13 20:09:43] kilrah : tired, read pro, wrote pro - i bought a zoom for the same reason of not PPing everything

[2018-09-13 20:09:44] quad808 : extreme in the good sense

[2018-09-13 20:10:32] ender : I am writing image filters since ages and its all out there, open source, already GPU-ready but they dont have the strength to just copy & paste it…

[2018-09-13 20:12:29] kilrah : They can't becasue they're wasting what computational power they have on more and more cameras for avoidance stuff...

[2018-09-13 20:13:24] ender : well but even the Amabarella core itself should have enough GPU power for most of the task…

[2018-09-17 11:38:28] kilrah : I don't have an M2 yet.

[2018-09-17 11:38:57] kilrah : And my M1 has lived its entire life with the sensors off, and I expect the same with the M2, so...

[2018-09-17 12:08:37] ender : yeah, i always switched off to use OA when doing RTH as many birds never made it home because of the stupid OA braking…

[2018-09-17 20:30:11] markusfriedl : does anyone have some experience with the yuneec mantis q?

[2018-09-17 20:53:51] hello : Drone / passenger plane near miss, at an altitude of around 3 miles up? <https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/packed-passenger-plane-nearly-hits-drone-at-doncaster-airport-1-9352752>

[2018-09-17 21:05:02] andrwho25 : yikes, that’s terrible

[2018-09-18 04:13:46] lolo780 : Probably a plastic bag

[2018-09-18 06:30:28] validat0r : Is dji gonna claim credit here, too?

[2018-09-18 06:52:09] ender : Of course: “DJI announces that this sad incident could only happen as the manufacturer of the Plastic Bad did not use DJI patented NFZ-method to prevent flying in security-sensitive areas”.

[2018-09-18 09:27:13] erwin : hey! if I want to know how healthy is a 1S lipo, what makes more sense: 1) discharge and charge to max and check how much mA it received OR 2) charge max, discharge and use the discharge mA?

[2018-09-18 09:29:36] ender : i guess (2) but the problem is you dont know the inner resistance by that. you would have to test the voltage at high current output, at least if you want to use it at high discharge rate. Best test would be to discharge at the same level it is used…

[2018-09-18 09:30:05] erwin : higher inner resistance = deader cell?

[2018-09-18 09:30:28] erwin : the charger can measure the resistance

[2018-09-18 09:41:32] ender : oh cool ! so it got high current pulse discharge ?

[2018-09-18 09:41:50] ender : Well, not DEAD but at least not usable for high current applications :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-18 09:42:06] ender : I have a lot of copter batteries no working in a RC happy everafter :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-18 09:42:17] ender : (or for a 5V powerbank or…)

[2018-09-18 10:06:22] cantrepeat : Anyone have any real world experience with any of those aftermarket antennas, like the alien tech or maxx?

[2018-09-18 10:07:38] cantrepeat : It just seems to me without an external power source they wouldn't do much to extend range or make a better signal.

[2018-09-18 10:10:32] kilrah : they do becasue they're directional

[2018-09-18 10:10:44] kilrah : concentrate the power into a narrow beam instead of everywhere

[2018-09-18 10:11:07] kilrah : but that means you've then got to point them at the aircraft

[2018-09-18 10:11:29] kilrah : and if you don't you'll actually get worse performance than normal

[2018-09-18 10:22:37] cantrepeat : Makes perfect sense.

[2018-09-18 10:30:32] erwin : cool, actually need the lipos for a robot vacuum :smile: about the charger, is just a normal <https://www.skyrc.com/iMAX_B6_Charger> it has that feature in one of the latest firmwares

[2018-09-18 10:37:38] erwin : Anyone here uses the RC in boost mode continuosly? (1.5W)

[2018-09-18 10:39:12] cantrepeat : I have been using for a couple of weeks now.

[2018-09-18 10:44:37] erwin : no issues?

[2018-09-18 10:44:53] erwin : like burnt hands or disconnections

[2018-09-18 10:45:01] cantrepeat : non as of yet and I'm in a very hot climate, 95+ f daily

[2018-09-18 10:45:38] cantrepeat : I'm been very keen to monitor the temp of the RC while it's on.

[2018-09-18 10:45:40] erwin : oh shit, nice

[2018-09-18 10:46:25] erwin : how do you monitor the temp?

[2018-09-18 10:46:51] erwin : and is the range way better?

[2018-09-18 10:47:04] cantrepeat : I have a hand held IR temp reader

[2018-09-18 10:47:34] cantrepeat : mostly it hasn't change the temp in my hand

[2018-09-18 10:47:43] erwin : nice to know

[2018-09-18 10:47:59] cantrepeat : I'm not sure what the threshold is for burning it up but it doesn't feel any hotter to me.

[2018-09-18 10:48:01] erwin : I am not much for the range improvement, but here in EU the original signal is shit

[2018-09-18 10:48:21] erwin : like 300 meters and few trees and gets disconnected

[2018-09-18 10:48:25] erwin : havent tried FCC mode yet

[2018-09-18 10:48:38] erwin : but I was wondering about that boost mode

[2018-09-18 10:48:51] cantrepeat : yeah I was reading the CE is .1 milliwatts

[2018-09-18 10:49:04] erwin : hahah wonderful

[2018-09-18 10:49:20] erwin : like the tv remote control in raw power

[2018-09-18 10:50:20] cantrepeat : I guess FCC puts that at .4 and boost is 1.5

[2018-09-18 10:51:05] cantrepeat : I was asking in the nld channel about changing the trasmission freq to 2.57 or 2.33 and it can be done in the datalink.settings.json file.

[2018-09-18 10:51:27] erwin : :open_mouth:

[2018-09-18 10:51:40] cantrepeat : m_SpecialFrequencyMode flag value 1 is for 2300MHz value 2 is for 2500MHz default value 0 is for 2400MHz

[2018-09-18 10:52:16] cantrepeat : the only reason I ask was because I read a blog about 2.57 having less interference

[2018-09-18 10:52:41] erwin : yeah but higher freq should travel less between obstacles :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-09-18 10:52:45] erwin : in theory

[2018-09-18 10:52:50] erwin : so maybe 2300 would perform better

[2018-09-18 10:53:19] cantrepeat : I get a flashing radio icon in the remote almost immediately after start up, there must be 20 wifi setups near my house.

[2018-09-18 10:53:20] erwin : I wonder what will happen in litchi

[2018-09-18 10:53:43] cantrepeat : I'll try both the 2.3 and the 2.5 and see what happens.

[2018-09-18 10:54:52] erwin : the only worrying thing about 1.5 is that is a lot of heat to dissipate

[2018-09-18 10:55:06] erwin : and in like cheap fpv drones I can see how the signal gets affected

[2018-09-18 10:55:09] erwin : with temperature

[2018-09-18 10:55:26] erwin : like literally, if I blow over the transmitter I get less noise

[2018-09-18 10:55:32] erwin : for few secs

[2018-09-18 10:55:38] cantrepeat : I definitely get more range with boost

[2018-09-18 10:55:49] erwin : and how long the battery lasts

[2018-09-18 10:55:51] erwin : in the remote

[2018-09-18 10:56:12] erwin : for me now with EU max power I get like 4-5 flights

[2018-09-18 10:56:18] cantrepeat : longer then the bird, probably get 8 30 minute flights and still have over 50%

[2018-09-18 10:56:58] cantrepeat : I have 4 batteries and cycle them at least twice without thinking about the remote or my CS

[2018-09-18 10:57:09] erwin : oh good

[2018-09-18 10:57:20] erwin : so it almost does not matter

[2018-09-18 10:59:08] cantrepeat : yeah, I see no real difference in remote battery drain, but I'm sure there is some.

[2018-09-18 11:08:54] cantrepeat : I wonder how many confirmed reports of RC failure from boost have been reported.

[2018-09-18 11:09:19] cantrepeat : There probably isn't any tracked data on it.

[2018-09-18 11:13:06] erwin : hard to tell when it fails. You will get a disconnect

[2018-09-18 11:13:33] erwin : and since there are a lot of factors it will be hard to drill down to fcc boost in my opinion

[2018-09-18 11:21:39] cantrepeat : well, I would have to assume that if it happened on a regular basis there are enough people here that a tear down and fix would have been done. Or even an upgraded chip replacement.

[2018-09-18 12:15:32] kilrah : or not, because the word was always "don't use it", so there might not be many actually testing/using it

[2018-09-18 13:01:52] cantrepeat : that too, could be enough warnings that I'm the fool to find out?

[2018-09-18 13:50:23] erwin : yeah, it turns the RC into a grenade. The lcd becomes shrapnel

[2018-09-18 13:51:22] erwin : I discovered that in my area 2.3 ghz is just being used by amateur radio. So that is awesome! 2.5 ghz is used by space-earth signals and more important looking stuff

[2018-09-18 13:52:59] cantrepeat : I just tried 2.5 and at first seemed like a lot less interference then that went south after the at about 3000 ft

[2018-09-18 13:53:31] cantrepeat : maybe 2.3 will be better, I don't see to many amateur radio antennas in the area

[2018-09-18 14:43:49] markusfriedl : does boost mode works vor every dji ac & rc cause it is applied for the app?

[2018-09-18 14:44:18] ender : afaik only ocusync

[2018-09-18 15:15:24] rcflyer40t : Hows it everyone, was recommended by a couple good guys to come join and follow here. Long time follower first time posting. How is the boost mode done again? Also any way to change/silence the remote other than that fella that charges to reflash it with his small software app?

[2018-09-18 15:16:32] rickw001 : that fella's app is great and worth every penny

[2018-09-18 15:17:23] rcflyer40t : Agreed! Just asking because a friend asked me. I've done and paid my dues. Very happy with the silence. Ha

[2018-09-18 15:18:16] rickw001 : that's the only way unless you want to drill your speaker

[2018-09-18 15:21:01] cantrepeat : lol, yeah I saw that guy on YT with the "easy way to quiet your remote" drill it out!!

[2018-09-18 15:21:24] cantrepeat : the 6 bucks US is an easy sale imho

[2018-09-18 15:23:21] rcflyer40t : Yup! :ok_hand: That's what I told him. Just do the software and be done with it. I was looking on about boosting the rc... How's that going? Saw some concerns with over temping and rc failures. How is this even done?

[2018-09-18 15:24:17] cantrepeat : I have boost running on nld 4.1.22 and have not had an issue in 3 weeks. That's not to say it wont be.

[2018-09-18 15:25:49] rcflyer40t : Ah, got it. I haven't looked at my nld nor updated it in a while. New features came out since I last used it I guess

[2018-09-18 16:30:53] markusfriedl : @ender thank you.. bad news for my spark

[2018-09-18 17:32:41] erwin : I did some tests about ForceFCC, boost and 2.3/2.5 <https://github.com/eried/Research/blob/master/MavicPro/RemoteController/FCC/README.md>

[2018-09-18 17:34:57] erwin : what I can say is: 1) there is always some activity over 2.4, even if you set the freq to 2.3/2.5 2) it gets back to 2.4 if you fiddle the signal quality section on dji go 3) the difference between FCC and FCCboost is not as big as CE vs FCC... but the dbm scale is log so.. maybe is bigger than I think

[2018-09-18 17:36:52] rcflyer40t : @erwin :ok_hand: nicely done

[2018-09-18 17:37:43] erwin : forgot to test if litchi does not switches back these settings :confused:

[2018-09-18 17:46:58] cantrepeat : @erwin so even with 2.3 or 2.5 set as special freq the bird and remote still use 2.4?

[2018-09-18 17:48:01] erwin : No, they use both

[2018-09-18 17:48:13] erwin : maybe video goes thru 2.4? or viceversa

[2018-09-18 17:49:30] erwin : If I close djigo the same activity continues

[2018-09-18 17:49:34] cantrepeat : ah that makes sense, I normally never saw both the antenna and HD flashing or losing signal at the same rate/time

[2018-09-18 17:50:46] erwin : have you noticed that the remote signal icon blinks sometimes in djigo4? I just noticed while doing the tests

[2018-09-18 17:52:06] cantrepeat : I have seen that a few times, just in this last flight on 2.3 it was flashing and the HD was not. Got down to 2 bars on remote and still had 4 on HD/video

[2018-09-18 18:53:08] erwin : So, it seems nld djigo sets the RC params while starting (not even needed to tap "go fly"). You do not need to power down RC or bird for switching freq

[2018-09-18 18:55:02] erwin : and the RC/drone does not "remember". So with litchi as default, no special modes. I am not sure about FCC. Very hard to tell by noise.

[2018-09-18 19:49:44] good.win.alexs : @erwin as far as i remember - RC works always on 2.4, no way to affect it. you can change freq for Ocusync, so for video link. so, if you’ll go for ex. for 2.3Ghz you will see that video is much stronger than signal on bar

[2018-09-18 19:52:06] good.win.alexs : btw, what are you using for this graphs?

[2018-09-18 19:54:57] cantrepeat : lol, I was under impression that changing the freq was for the RC to bird, not video.

[2018-09-18 19:57:00] good.win.alexs : DJI is using SDR for own custom protocol, Ocusync

[2018-09-18 19:57:32] good.win.alexs : SDR = Software Defined Radio. so it can be software redefined to use spare frequencies :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-18 19:57:51] good.win.alexs : it’s logical

[2018-09-18 19:58:31] good.win.alexs : but for RC they use most probably old good, tested by time FHSS on 2.4

[2018-09-18 19:58:45] good.win.alexs : so it is flood machine for devices around )))

[2018-09-18 19:58:50] cantrepeat : makes sense, there is a slider for custom or auto

[2018-09-18 19:59:40] good.win.alexs : and, personally, i think it is reasonable to have RC and video link on different frequences

[2018-09-18 19:59:58] good.win.alexs : on FPV fliers ppl use mostly 2.4 for control and 5.8 for video feedback

[2018-09-18 20:00:15] good.win.alexs : so there is minimal interference between in and out signals

[2018-09-18 21:18:31] erwin : @good.win.alexs <http://rfexplorer.com/>

[2018-09-18 21:24:43] good.win.alexs : ah, rf explorer. i was almost sure :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-18 21:24:53] good.win.alexs : one day i’ll get this small bastard!

[2018-09-18 21:25:22] erwin : this is like 2nd time I use it in 5 years

[2018-09-18 21:25:24] erwin : xD

[2018-09-18 21:29:25] good.win.alexs : ))))

[2018-09-19 07:54:33] kefah.mansour : DJI Spark hijacking – Embedi <https://embedi.com/blog/dji-spark-hijacking/>

[2018-09-19 08:48:55] erwin : >To perform a successful attack, a cybercriminal should infect a victim’s system or to remotely trace the moment a drone is connected to a victims computer via USB and DJI Assistan 2 is started mmm

[2018-09-19 08:50:08] cantrepeat : yeah, I often find myself sitting around waiting for the right time to remotely hack a dudes drone when he connects it.

[2018-09-19 08:50:29] erwin : yes, and I never check connection to the drone after using assistant2

[2018-09-19 08:51:53] cantrepeat : Hey honey, wanna go to dinner. Na, I think the neighbor is getting ready to connect his drone. Wife - you've been saying that for the last 3 months!!

[2018-09-19 08:57:37] cantrepeat : Hey, but the guy said he got paid the bounty so good for him.

[2018-09-19 09:15:59] erwin : hahahah

[2018-09-19 09:16:23] erwin : fly the spark thru his window to yours after hacking it

[2018-09-19 13:30:52] markusfriedl : that's what i understand when you say hijacking a drone :smile:

[2018-09-19 15:20:42] mathieu.peyrega : Bwahahah Audi last car called e-tron.... In french etron=turd

[2018-09-19 15:21:16] mathieu.peyrega : They should have hired a french in their marketting team

[2018-09-19 15:22:29] validat0r : They have the same team that came up with Pajero, i guess

[2018-09-19 15:32:41] mathieu.peyrega : Lol didnt knew this one !

[2018-09-19 17:07:38] capra_vecinului : There was also an American car model called "mist"; they had to rename it for the German market (mist = trash, garbage in German)

[2018-09-19 17:19:43] kilrah : lol l'étron :smile:

[2018-09-19 17:21:06] ender : Well as i love Audi, at least there is a “-” in between AND its pronounced different.

[2018-09-19 17:21:09] cantrepeat : come who doesn't want the buy a garbage car!@!!

[2018-09-19 18:01:30] kefah.mansour : I know compleately nuts but it’s actually possible , and if you actually read the article it’s possible with more than just the spark and just drones , sort of malware infected from the victims own computer sounds insanely rare but very effective

[2018-09-19 18:04:39] kefah.mansour : There’s some useful info in there I thought was interestingly familiar

[2018-09-19 18:29:11] kilrah : in this case it's total bullshit

[2018-09-20 16:55:11] marvinhowru : GoPro HERO7 released: <https://shop.gopro.com/EMEA/cameras/hero7-black/CHDHX-701-master.html>

[2018-09-20 16:55:38] marvinhowru : Same crappy 78Mb/s bitrate even at 4K60...

[2018-09-20 17:03:59] ender : why o why ? Or is it h.265 that would be okayish

[2018-09-20 17:06:53] kilrah : yep 4k60 is in h265

[2018-09-20 17:08:05] kilrah : so basically nothing new and just as overpriced as usual

[2018-09-20 17:14:48] ender : well it IS 4k60, something DJI did not manage in the M2 (which i still cannot believe)

[2018-09-20 17:17:24] marvinhowru : The hardware is fully capable of that. It's called product segmentation, to protect Phantom line.

[2018-09-20 17:20:05] ender : well, the Sensor can do it but thats old. The implementation is cheap aka the Interface to the Chipset. Whether thats a price thingy or politics or something in the middle is somethiny you and i cannot know.

[2018-09-20 17:22:51] marvinhowru : <https://www.sony-semicon.co.jp/products_en/new_pro/may_2014/imx183_e.html>

[2018-09-20 17:23:28] marvinhowru : Check "Readout mode", I believe all full fov mode on Mavic 2 Pro and Phantom are actually 2.7K upscaled

[2018-09-20 17:24:11] marvinhowru : And 4K HQ mode aka crop mode can go up to 60p in 10bit but DJI did not implement that, otherwise nobody would buy Phantom

[2018-09-20 17:25:26] ender : like i said, mix of reasons probably :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-20 17:25:29] ender : So go EVO

[2018-09-20 19:03:08] quad808 : @ender well...you are just a HATER! :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

[2018-09-20 19:07:22] ender : Actually not much :wink: I am really disappointed, i DID entertain the thought of getting a Zoom if its fully hackable, i did not ONE second doubt it will record 4k60.

[2018-09-20 19:07:55] ender : So it will turn out if they are full yhackable but to me they are an instant FAIL w/o 4k60.

[2018-09-20 19:08:14] ender : I am not gonna fork out more then $1k for ANY drone without 4k60.

[2018-09-20 19:12:51] quad808 : Agreed. I am also disappointed. Same for me....I was planning on waiting a while until the reviews all came in, and to see what can or can't be done with the MP2 (jury is still out on that one) and was looking forward to 4k@60. I picked up the EVO, soon after launch, after I saw some of the video samples. Planned on keeping that until the MP2 matured, then maybe purchase. Will just have to wait and see what develops.

[2018-09-20 19:13:44] quad808 : Then you MADE me buy an Anafi and that threw all plans out

[2018-09-20 19:14:03] mathieu.peyrega : 2 pro version is not supposed to be a Sony sensor but Hasselblad/DJI

[2018-09-20 19:16:29] marvinhowru : It's Hasselblad lens in front of a Sony IMX183 sensor

[2018-09-20 19:16:34] quad808 : Just my opinion, but the MP2 zoom is not a great enough leap in tech as compared to the Pro/Platinum for the price. Others disagree and thats fine...just my opinion.

[2018-09-20 19:16:52] ender : Hasselblad does not “do” sensors and i doubt they had a saying in that lens :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-20 19:17:18] marvinhowru : And the distortion is atrocious

[2018-09-20 19:27:11] mail451 : I have the Hero7,, its a good camera

[2018-09-20 19:27:44] mail451 : It's stabilized. 4K 60 with stabilization. Wonder if my spark will handle it, same weight as the 5.

[2018-09-20 19:44:48] marvinhowru : You'll be our HERO if you hack it for 200Mbps bitrate or more :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-09-20 19:51:56] mail451 : GP1 (GoPro chipset) cameras don't have Autoexec.ash support, so there's no writeb.

[2018-09-20 20:19:55] ender : yep, my comment was not directed towards gopro but towards the suckyness of theM2 :slightly_smiling_face: The Yi got it as well :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-20 20:21:27] erwin : Thanks to the HERO7 It was a good instant to order the GoPro 2018 :DDD

[2018-09-20 20:21:33] erwin : and apply <https://www.reddit.com/r/goprohack/comments/8wpe49/gopro_hero_1080p_2018_to_hero_5_black_firmware/>

[2018-09-21 03:53:21] lolo780 : The Mavic 2 is worth it for the power system and flight capability

[2018-09-21 03:55:25] lolo780 : <https://i.imgur.com/BGNgBIk.jpg>

[2018-09-21 03:55:44] lolo780 : Over 22km and landed with 3.54v

[2018-09-21 06:46:35] ender : Yes IF you got those extreme needs.

[2018-09-21 06:47:27] ender : But most (including me) dont. If i were in the market for a new bird and would not own any i might go there but like this its not worth it IMO.

[2018-09-21 08:44:04] good.win.alexs : @lowellfoo780 still not worth upgrading from MP1 :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-09-21 08:44:21] good.win.alexs : only if you have spare money

[2018-09-21 08:54:21] ender : if you have money all changes :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-09-21 10:36:14] erwin : I feel more confident with my mp1 now with the mp2 out :smile: after loosing the first mp1 in the sea I lost a lot of confidence... but now regained it: worse case I need to upgrade to mp2 if I lose this one

[2018-09-21 10:38:39] validat0r : what did you do to dip it in unknown waters?

[2018-09-21 10:43:04] erwin : propeller not locked :confused:

[2018-09-21 10:43:25] erwin : switch to sport mode and tried to go up fast

[2018-09-21 10:43:36] erwin : and prop fell

[2018-09-21 16:30:15] aciid : here @tumik

[2018-09-21 16:30:22] aciid : here @tumik

[2018-09-21 21:25:04] mefisto : That looks a bit like training a pet.

[2018-09-21 21:31:26] good.win.alexs : catch the stick game :smile:

[2018-09-21 21:33:40] mefisto : I now can't read that without pet-like intonation in my head.

[2018-09-23 22:33:16] chipmangini : $6,800 Buys You a Hydrogen Fuel Cell Drone With a 30 Km Range. Wow, just WOW! <https://dronebelow.com/2018/09/17/6800-buys-you-a-hydrogen-fuel-cell-drone-with-a-30-km-range/>

[2018-09-23 22:59:19] erwin : Just thinking, we need a face-off mavic2 vs mavic1 all modded, like speed sport+ and range with boost FCC :trophy:

[2018-09-23 23:17:49] cantrepeat : nice, where's my checkbook!!!

[2018-09-24 00:00:06] cantrepeat : Anyone every use a raspberry pi 3 to do their FC patcher/firmware work on?

[2018-09-24 00:34:33] jezzab : What are you trying to do? @catalinaskirace

[2018-09-24 00:39:50] cantrepeat : Just get off of my virtual box and onto a dedicated linux is all.

[2018-09-24 00:40:21] cantrepeat : something to occupy my time :smile:

[2018-09-24 00:50:36] jezzab : What OS are u currently running?

[2018-09-24 00:52:10] jezzab : Should be able to run the fc patcher on macOS and Windows (WSL or others) easily

[2018-09-24 00:53:04] cantrepeat : I've got win7/64 with a virtualbox running ubantu 18.xx

[2018-09-24 00:53:07] jezzab : And if ur looking to make ELF files to run on the AC/RC you can use as above. Just cross compile with Android NDK. Works fine

[2018-09-24 00:55:19] jezzab : Git bash and install python?

[2018-09-24 00:55:25] jezzab : Done that before

[2018-09-24 00:56:41] cantrepeat : Well, I've got the mavic pretty much where I want it so just looking for something to mess with during the week.

[2018-09-24 06:05:56] kilrah : pi would be fine

[2018-09-24 06:06:36] kilrah : only annoyance with pi is when you need to use something for which there's no package for arm and you have to start compiling stuff yourself...

[2018-09-24 06:30:20] good.win.alexs : And its painful waiting while its compiling for few hours :grin:

[2018-09-24 06:41:01] kilrah : not even that bad, when you go crazy is that when something isn't available as a package then it's likely compiling depends on packages that also aren't available... so in order to be able to compile you need to first compile another dozen of things, often ends in an endless chain and you give up

[2018-09-24 06:46:38] hotelzululima : heh heh you havent lived till you have tried docker-compose on the RPI while trying to get mastodon compiled/installed..( just like the bad old days in the 80's when compiling the kernel on Unix took a day(at least) and userland took multiple machines or days for a single cpu..) the rpi SUCKS for advanced development and its the best supported of the lot of arm SBC(s)

[2018-09-24 10:08:38] cantrepeat : looks like python2, 3, and crypto have native support for ARM. Might get lucky with it.

[2018-09-24 10:09:25] cantrepeat : I might build a NUC with win10 and WSL too.

[2018-09-24 10:15:58] cs2000 : It should work fine to be honest. May be pretty slow at times however.

[2018-09-24 10:16:32] cs2000 : for example, doing the DeeJayEye patcher stuff on a RPI takes probably 5-10 mins to unpack files, but it works in a pinch

[2018-09-24 10:20:56] cantrepeat : haha, I'll probably get bored of this idea pretty quickly in those 10 minutes.

[2018-09-24 10:25:03] kilrah : python is all cross platform yes

[2018-09-24 10:25:27] kilrah : unpacking/repacking takes TONS of disk i/o, and an sd card isn't the best at that at all...

[2018-09-24 11:52:45] cantrepeat : Build your own Pi areoschope?? <https://blog.adafruit.com/2018/09/07/track-nearby-aircraft-with-raspberry-pi-flightradar24-piday-raspberrypi-raspberry_pi/>

[2018-09-24 11:59:09] cantrepeat : <https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-flightradar24/>

[2018-09-24 12:01:32] kilrah : yup, have my feeder station

[2018-09-25 14:52:51] cantrepeat : @kilrah Hey, what platform and software are you using for your station?

[2018-09-25 14:53:53] kilrah : piaware

[2018-09-25 14:54:20] kilrah : then added feeding for fr24, radarbox and i think a 4th one

[2018-09-25 14:57:57] kilrah : planefinder

[2018-09-25 14:58:52] kilrah : and its also running pidp8i :smile:

[2018-09-25 14:59:24] kilrah :

[2018-09-25 15:01:08] cantrepeat : Pumping up the nerd level for sure!!

[2018-09-25 19:20:13] cantrepeat : haha, 7 hour raspbian install!!

[2018-09-25 19:21:31] cantrepeat : lol dropped to 33 minutes now

[2018-09-26 23:37:35] mail451 : Oculus Quest, can't wait for Spring 2019

[2018-09-26 23:37:48] mail451 : Half Dome when

[2018-09-28 12:00:32] kilrah : lol, just got a spam mail titled "free baby samples"... no thanks :joy:

[2018-09-28 13:58:03] cantrepeat : @kilrah Got the piaware and FR24 feeds going with free enterprise and business accounts

[2018-09-28 13:58:32] kilrah : :+1:

[2018-09-28 21:09:42] aciid : can you smell it from there?

[2018-09-28 21:11:02] cantrepeat : looks like 4 dollars of copper left over!

[2018-09-28 21:12:49] aciid : be sure to remove that shit if you get a tekko

[2018-09-29 06:07:46] good.win.alexs : Woahh

[2018-09-29 06:08:03] good.win.alexs : Barbeque party!

[2018-09-29 13:02:52] buundy : Anyone has an armattan rooster here? I designed some parts (vtx and rx and antenna mounts) maybe you can try it if you can print. I tried them and they work for me

[2018-09-29 13:03:55] buundy : <https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2883766>

[2018-09-30 13:14:08] chipmangini : A Phantom 2 collides with the wing of a Mooney aircraft at 238MPH: <https://www.suasnews.com/2018/09/university-of-dayton-research-institute-risk-in-the-sky/?utm_source=DroneNewsDailyEmailMore&mc_cid=eb72a06374&mc_eid=a41195dee3>

[2018-09-30 13:22:31] cantrepeat : wow!!

[2018-09-30 13:23:48] cantrepeat : Brings a whole new meaning to drone strike!!!

[2018-09-30 13:40:32] chipmangini : Ya think!

[2018-09-30 13:42:00] chipmangini : Imagine if it was the windshield? How about the Lipo shorting out and lighting the fuel in the wing on fire....:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

[2018-09-30 15:45:47] erwin : how much can I expect for a 1 year old MP1 (2 batt)? does it REALLYY worth the switch to a M2P? with banggood 10% off app coupon seems so cheap! :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-09-30 16:35:57] makingthisnameup : whoaaa, it finally happened

[2018-09-30 16:36:34] makingthisnameup : why did that plane aim for the phantom

[2018-09-30 16:37:31] makingthisnameup : air rage perhaps

[2018-09-30 16:50:54] cantrepeat : yup, pilot was heard screaming FU!!

[2018-09-30 17:10:37] kilrah : erm, did you actually read the article?

[2018-09-30 17:18:45] cantrepeat : If you play the video in reverse slow mo you can hear the pilot!!! :smile:

[2018-09-30 17:19:31] cantrepeat : oh, wait, that's the air cannon shooting a drone into a plane wing in a lab. doh!!

[2018-10-01 11:38:21] trollspeed : <https://coub.com/view/1e9l2j>

[2018-10-01 12:24:46] good.win.alexs : don’t post this sh*^%t

[2018-10-01 12:24:54] good.win.alexs : everybody knows that this is fake

[2018-10-01 13:41:29] validat0r : Nice cgi

[2018-10-04 11:57:31] trollspeed : Yep and i know the place anf the event :) so i'm interested how they took off :)))

[2018-10-04 18:57:19] cantrepeat : Who is this guy? <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8pFiSyPvy0&>

[2018-10-04 22:49:04] erwin : <https://youtu.be/wh32gktARss> my first flight in a bigger area ... feels so underpowered, I think I need a tiny brushless :confused:

[2018-10-05 09:50:32] flydji : will give this a try when i could get it ;-) <https://betafpv.com/products/beta65x-2s-whoop-quadcopter>

[2018-10-05 13:41:42] chantry.holdman : i mostly fly the babyhawk r... had a few brushless whoops but they are very noisy and motors fall apart very easily. im building a new 49mm frame to be used with 1103 10000kv motors and the newbeedrone hive stack on 2s... should rip balls for indoors

[2018-10-06 13:03:44] erwin : I was thinking on the US65 or UK65 from banggood. But maybe @chantry.holdman is on the right track and the issue is the 1S not the brushes... But I feel it soooo underpowered now

[2018-10-06 14:01:14] flydji : i have the ur65, much more fun than my qx65. fly faster, crash harder;-) the prop guards are so narrow that i often bent the motor shaft after crash. gives some vibration/yello. its a pain to fix... dont know if us/uk 65 has this too.

[2018-10-06 15:20:19] erwin : It is probably the same shaft on both, it is just a updated skin I think. I have 2 qx65 for learning but I think I already learned enough with them. Is the camera holder the same in the ur65? The stupidly shitty one that makes the camera easily pop off or unlevel?

[2018-10-06 17:14:00] flydji : yes, cam holder looks exactly like same crap... but cam still holds in place in mine.

[2018-10-09 11:29:35] erwin : <https://photos.app.goo.gl/RUnYCBFBGa2s6AFJ9> spot welder/soldering iron portable combo for reusing those mavic pro battery cells :smile:

[2018-10-09 11:30:32] ender : nice, i am looking for one, how much did you pay ?

[2018-10-09 11:34:28] erwin : I think like 120 usd

[2018-10-09 11:34:29] erwin : <https://m.blog.naver.com/aulakiria/220992039512>

[2018-10-09 11:35:17] erwin : I just wished the firmware was open, but it is not. So it would be good if few people get the same and we write an improved firmware :smile:

[2018-10-09 11:35:48] cantrepeat : Is that brass wool to clean your tip?

[2018-10-09 11:36:09] erwin : cooper wool

[2018-10-09 11:36:29] cantrepeat : :+1:

[2018-10-09 11:36:57] cantrepeat : every day I come here and you guys end up costing me money!

[2018-10-09 11:37:00] erwin : but that is not the important tip :stuck_out_tongue: the one with 2 cooper rods is the nice one

[2018-10-09 11:39:17] cantrepeat : I've on the wet spoon forever.

[2018-10-09 11:39:32] erwin : that fucking sucks

[2018-10-09 11:40:06] cantrepeat : sponge lol

[2018-10-09 11:40:14] erwin : get wool and <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Japan-GOOT-BS-2-Lead-free-Soldering-Iron-Tip-Refresher-Clean-Paste-for-Oxide-Solder/32798690905.html>

[2018-10-09 11:40:21] erwin : (spend more money today)

[2018-10-09 11:42:10] cantrepeat : Is aliexpress the amazon of the europe?

[2018-10-09 11:44:05] erwin : yes, but 10% cheaper and 400% slower

[2018-10-09 11:44:53] cantrepeat : 400% slower <--- ouch!

[2018-10-09 11:59:07] ender : ali is the amazon of the world…

[2018-10-09 12:05:09] cantrepeat : yeah, but there are items they wont ship to the US.

[2018-10-09 12:56:36] erwin : that is good, amazon has spoiled you all too much there

[2018-10-09 13:07:38] ender : Dont get me wrong i LOVE Amazon next day delivery but if you wanna go loooow :slightly_smiling_face: Its ALI !

[2018-10-09 14:07:35] cantrepeat : @erwin jelly?

[2018-10-09 14:14:41] ender : beans? :wink:

[2018-10-09 14:19:40] erwin : hahah actually yess, I would love amazon-like service here :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-10-09 17:12:32] buundy : I have heard that there is an open source soldering controller

[2018-10-09 17:13:40] buundy : It is unisolder

[2018-10-09 17:13:48] buundy : <http://dangerousprototypes.com/blog/2016/02/03/unisolder-5-2/> maybe this is it

[2018-10-09 17:13:55] buundy : Someday I will try it

[2018-10-09 17:14:16] buundy : But for now I am totally sarisfied with my ts100

[2018-10-09 17:18:58] erwin : right, but this is a spot welder, not only soldering iron, in fact the soldering iron part is like a bonus

[2018-10-09 17:20:23] erwin : <https://photos.app.goo.gl/wRoJG2P8Cyc6a7CF8> dumped the firmware, it is just a simple arduino nano controlling everything. I am not sure if I can get the pinout from the hex file but ill try

[2018-10-09 17:21:55] t3rm1 : more like 10000% slower. I get my Amazon packages within 1-2 days. Ali takes at least 20-30 days.

[2018-10-09 17:23:27] erwin : 1 to 30 is just 2900%, so dont be dramatic

[2018-10-09 17:28:33] kilrah : nice, wanted to get a tabletop spot welder

[2018-10-09 17:28:42] kilrah : banggood, $120 or so too

[2018-10-09 17:29:12] kilrah : maybe that could be more practical for occasional use

[2018-10-09 20:03:04] trulala69 : TS100 is great, I love mine...

[2018-10-10 05:54:43] kilrah : +1

[2018-10-10 06:25:36] hotelzululima : man a tabletop spot welder is really hard to pass up

[2018-10-10 06:25:39] hotelzululima : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-10-10 06:25:48] hotelzululima : especially a pen type

[2018-10-10 20:04:14] cantrepeat : !apk

[2018-10-10 21:50:38] rcflyer40t : @flydji I've got the betafpv 75... Fun as all get out.

[2018-10-10 21:58:44] rcflyer40t : Any info or work around on not reporting to dji aeroscope? Didn't see any info on a search and wasn't sure if it's hush hush or what.

[2018-10-10 22:08:37] validat0r : try ~aeroscope-droneid

[2018-10-12 11:31:16] chipmangini : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHWPh4ik9uo>

[2018-10-12 15:21:58] d95gas : unfortunately I don't see it as funny as they do...... Could of caused a major incident....... as well as labeling us all as muppets!!!!...... Oh well, takes all kinds as they say......... Or am I just getting too old for these pranks!

[2018-10-12 15:50:17] fredmicrowave : Lol, thinking about what major incident it could have caused I find it funnier... It all depends of where it was done, of course iI would not do that near a highway , but even serious people should stay somewhat irreverent from time to time ...

[2018-10-15 20:13:23] cantrepeat : gotta laugh out loud

[2018-10-15 20:14:06] cantrepeat : finally took the plunge and upgraded to win10 from 7 and now my desktop icons wont stop flashing and explorer is running at 35% constantly

[2018-10-15 20:16:51] jakub : it's popular feature of windows 10 according to google

[2018-10-15 20:22:31] cantrepeat : yes, and none of those have helped me turn the feature off :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-10-15 20:23:24] cantrepeat : only happens on the profile that was on win7, I made a new profile and it's fine. Might just do that.

[2018-10-15 20:24:43] kilrah : do people really do such updates without a clean isntall?

[2018-10-15 20:25:02] cantrepeat : I was hoping not do that.

[2018-10-15 20:25:13] cantrepeat : hate reinstalling everything

[2018-10-15 20:25:38] kilrah : really wouldn't want to carry over a system full of many years of crap

[2018-10-15 20:26:34] cantrepeat : yeah, but I used the free upgrade to win10 as well. no dough put out on my end

[2018-10-15 20:30:14] good.win.alexs : @catalinaskirace Windows is not Mac. You can’t just upgrade :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-10-15 20:30:35] good.win.alexs : and not Linux either

[2018-10-15 20:56:38] cantrepeat : So it seems

[2018-10-15 20:56:57] cantrepeat : I'm kind of getting used to the flashing icons.

[2018-10-15 20:58:11] cantrepeat : probably just buy a new SSD and move this one to back up.

[2018-10-15 21:01:26] chipmangini : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj96PuFPES8>

[2018-10-15 21:06:58] cantrepeat : One does not simply upgrade to windows 10!!! :smile:

[2018-10-15 21:11:32] quad808 : use classic shell. You can thank me later.

[2018-10-15 21:13:33] cantrepeat : got it figured out.

[2018-10-15 21:14:08] cantrepeat : there is some conflict with default associations, in my case, .mp4s on the desktop

[2018-10-15 21:14:17] cantrepeat : removed them and it quit

[2018-10-15 21:14:38] cantrepeat : I read someone had an issue with PDF files on the desktop and another was JPGs

[2018-10-15 21:16:53] quad808 : little known tip for Win 10 upgrading, from clean install. If you have an old Win 7 PC with a valid license key, you can use that to activate Win 10. <https://www.zdnet.com/article/going-pro-how-to-upgrade-windows-10-home-without-hassles/>

[2018-10-15 21:19:15] cantrepeat : I've got a good win7 key still

[2018-10-15 21:21:26] cantrepeat : very odd behavior, I have a jpg on my desktop and when I open up explorer and click on a jpg all the desktop icons go back to flashing.

[2018-10-15 21:36:44] quad808 : not an issue....it's a feature!! Wahooooooo!!

[2018-10-15 22:55:22] cantrepeat : sudo apt upgrade windows10 --no-new-features

[2018-10-15 22:55:27] cantrepeat : what the hell man!!

[2018-10-16 19:36:55] cantrepeat : wish I could fix the rest of the world with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

[2018-10-16 20:11:18] good.win.alexs : rm -rf /*

[2018-10-16 20:11:23] good.win.alexs : :wink:

[2018-10-16 20:13:55] kilrah : need `--no-preserve-root` nowadays...

[2018-10-16 20:14:59] kilrah : installed win10 on a 2009 laptop today

[2018-10-16 20:16:30] cantrepeat : --no-new-features!!!

[2018-10-16 20:17:08] grcoder : --no-telemetry-please

[2018-10-16 20:17:49] cantrepeat : --areoscape-null

[2018-10-16 20:18:37] kilrah : did new install obviously (on new partition, with dual boot cause not sure of everything the owner wants nor if all their software even still exists at this point)

[2018-10-16 20:19:05] kilrah : most impressive was rather that the 10 year old original w7 install was still running...

[2018-10-16 20:19:08] cantrepeat : 9 years of outdated apps

[2018-10-16 20:19:53] kilrah : there were installers from 2010 in the downloads folder

[2018-10-16 20:20:03] cantrepeat : I'm guessing mine was that old. probably 3 months after release

[2018-10-16 20:20:19] cantrepeat : it still ran fine

[2018-10-16 20:20:52] grcoder : I was running an old laptop with w7 eternity (no SP1) for 8-9 years before I buy a new with w10

[2018-10-16 20:20:57] kilrah : yeah w7 was great, i actually started using it from public beta release

[2018-10-16 20:21:40] cantrepeat : figured out how to fix the flashing association issue with boot to safe mode and reset all default app assoc

[2018-10-16 20:21:55] kilrah : think longest stretch i did was 4 years on an install - but reisntalls were never due to issues, only to drive changes or entire pc replacement lol

[2018-10-16 20:22:21] cantrepeat : yup hard drive failures are my normal reinstall

[2018-10-16 20:22:31] kilrah : never had a prob with 10 either so far.

[2018-10-16 20:22:45] kilrah : never really had drive failures, but just upgrades

[2018-10-16 20:23:02] kilrah : notably when SSDs became affordable

[2018-10-16 20:23:32] cantrepeat : yeah, went from a 256 to 1 ter a while ago

[2018-10-16 20:24:32] kilrah : went to 2x256 in RAID0 for current pc when i built this pc in 2014

[2018-10-16 20:24:48] kilrah : then changed for 1x512 SATA in 2016 or so

[2018-10-16 20:25:18] kilrah : then re-changed for 512 pcie m.2 last year

[2018-10-16 20:30:33] kilrah : that's system drive obviously, others were either kept in for other stuff or reused somewhere else

[2018-10-17 02:21:21] abdo054 : Guys, can anyone play any video on youtube?

[2018-10-17 02:21:54] abdo054 : It seems down from my side

[2018-10-17 03:04:34] jezzab : <https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1052373937839980544>

[2018-10-17 04:17:03] abdo054 : :+1:

[2018-10-17 08:30:40] xela75 : 2

[2018-10-17 08:49:20] cantrepeat : Working on my end

[2018-10-19 15:55:42] cantrepeat : grrr, new update to windows 10 kind of screws over SMBv1 support.

[2018-10-19 15:56:08] cantrepeat : can't see my NAS now; it doesn't support SMBv2.02 and there is no new firmware for it.

[2018-10-19 17:44:59] kilrah : smb1 was gone one or 2 updates ago already

[2018-10-19 17:45:45] kilrah : disabled intentionally becasue of being so insecure

[2018-10-19 18:45:25] cantrepeat : yeah, but I didn't know that.

[2018-10-19 18:45:45] cantrepeat : went ahead and did a new install on a new 1TB ssd

[2018-10-19 18:45:58] cantrepeat : I'll hold off on the updates until I get a new NAS box.

[2018-10-19 18:46:41] cantrepeat : probably another thecus N something 5810 pro maybe

[2018-10-20 17:18:55] cantrepeat : went with a N4810, should hold me over

[2018-10-20 17:26:29] kilrah : nice, no experience with those

[2018-10-21 10:14:26] jezzab : My two latest toys: <https://www.analogue.co/pages/super-nt/> <http://ultrahdmi.retroactive.be> Both the best money spent ever

[2018-10-21 10:57:11] kilrah : cool

[2018-10-21 10:57:40] jezzab : ..i need a life

[2018-10-21 10:57:51] kilrah : :smile:

[2018-10-21 10:58:01] kilrah : was wondering, why both but i guess that's the answer :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-10-21 13:10:42] cantrepeat : assume motherboard review <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LUuDXdWFmc>

[2018-10-21 14:04:07] aciid : fuckin christ i almost amputated myself jumpter t8sg v2plus fluctates power so it decieded to throttle up

[2018-10-21 16:27:20] fredmicrowave : For the spot welder guys above : I found a video of extra simple spot welder, looks quite efficient : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1NFbchHeM8>

[2018-10-21 17:06:40] buundy : Nice!

[2018-10-21 23:31:18] hotelzululima : !wiki

[2018-10-22 12:46:00] cantrepeat : @kilrah you ever heard of/used freeNAS?

[2018-10-22 12:46:35] kilrah : only played with it in a vm

[2018-10-22 12:46:52] kilrah : but i don't really use/need a nas so never actually implemented

[2018-10-22 13:28:02] cantrepeat : cancelled my Thecus order and going with a freeNAS box. lol went from 800 to 1400. :smile:

[2018-10-22 13:28:31] cantrepeat : the open source plugins for freenas are just crazy

[2018-10-22 13:28:34] cantrepeat : so many!

[2018-10-22 13:55:55] kilrah : oh? when i looked i thought there weren't many

[2018-10-22 13:56:04] kilrah : but i never looked outside the built in catalog

[2018-10-23 22:56:46] andrwho25 : damn it jezzab, you just made me buy one

[2018-10-23 23:44:00] cantrepeat : Yeah, he and a few other people here cost me money all the time!

[2018-10-24 03:59:53] jezzab : You buy a Super NT @andrwho25?

[2018-10-24 07:11:43] andrwho25 : yeah

[2018-10-24 07:40:09] jezzab : <https://github.com/SmokeMonsterPacks/Super-NT-Jailbreak>

[2018-10-24 07:40:27] jezzab : Works well but not special chip games ofcourse

[2018-10-24 09:14:36] kilrah : coool

[2018-10-24 09:14:59] kilrah : was what i thought was lacking on the thing :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-10-24 09:58:10] cantrepeat : So games that use enhancement chips have issues? That's a pretty long list of games.

[2018-10-24 09:59:45] jezzab : Not that long of a list that use special chips

[2018-10-24 09:59:47] jezzab : <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Super_NES_enhancement_chips>

[2018-10-24 10:01:44] jezzab : If you wanna do that you might as well get a SD2SNES (Everdrive) which has an FPGA for emulating the special chips (or just buy the cart of the ones you must have)

[2018-10-24 10:02:19] jezzab : Same goes for the N64, Everdrive 64 works awesome

[2018-10-24 10:04:49] cantrepeat : yeah looks like 73 games of which I see like 3 or 4 I might play. Super mario kart, who doesn't want to play that!!!

[2018-10-24 10:05:08] jezzab : I bought the cart :P

[2018-10-24 10:05:20] jezzab : that was my first thing I did haha

[2018-10-24 10:05:55] jezzab : And it is nice to have _something_ sitting in it so it looks like a SNES

[2018-10-24 10:06:01] cantrepeat : first thing, give it 100% traction!

[2018-10-24 10:06:55] jezzab : the response is so good even with the wireless controllers but the quality of the controllers is impressive and the unit itself.

[2018-10-24 10:07:33] cantrepeat : you're going to cost me more money man!!

[2018-10-24 10:07:44] jezzab : Not some cheap crap lightweight thing

[2018-10-24 10:07:51] jezzab : hahaha love my SNES's

[2018-10-24 10:08:04] jezzab : I built a PiSNES out of a real snes

[2018-10-24 10:09:04] jezzab : I did laugh the other day though playing the N64. "Oh man there is like no lag on this thing, its like a real N64 as I remember it! .... oh wait... it _is_ a real N64" _idiot_

[2018-10-24 10:13:16] jezzab : One thing I like about the Super NT and it sounds crazy but the reset button has a spring just like the original SNES. You hear the big round spring sound. Cant explain it but if you have ever hit the reset button about 1000 times on your old SNES you will know what I mean, its exactly the same sound

[2018-10-24 10:16:19] jezzab :

[2018-10-24 10:17:08] cantrepeat : are the controllers BT or wifi?

[2018-10-24 10:23:29] jezzab : BT <http://www.8bitdo.com/retro-receiver-snes/> with 8bitdo SFC30 BT controllers

[2018-10-24 10:23:54] jezzab : or you can just use real SNES controllers

[2018-10-24 10:25:26] jezzab : Anyway, not cheap but you get what you pay for. And if you love the old SNES you will be in heaven

[2018-10-24 10:26:32] jezzab : Atleast with the SNES they didnt deliberately blur the image in games like the N64

[2018-10-24 10:37:35] cantrepeat : They blurred the images? What's up with that?

[2018-10-24 10:39:15] jezzab : <http://retrorgb.com/n64blur.html>

[2018-10-24 10:39:39] jezzab : CRT days. Looked great on a CRT, its not so good now

[2018-10-24 10:40:49] cantrepeat : wow, even post processing they don't look too good.

[2018-10-24 10:42:26] cantrepeat : ah, that explains the HDMI upgrade

[2018-10-24 10:43:27] cantrepeat : you used the HDMI and not the new board?

[2018-10-24 10:44:47] jezzab : i used the UltraHDMI: <http://ultrahdmi.retroactive.be>

[2018-10-24 10:46:08] cantrepeat : man if my daughter sees this I wont have a choice

[2018-10-24 10:49:02] jezzab : haha

[2018-10-24 10:50:10] cantrepeat : This looks like cool workbench time! <http://etim.net.au/n64rgb/instructions-new/>

[2018-10-24 10:54:19] jezzab : Shit that a harder install then my UltraHDMI. That does only output RGB tho not HDMI. So you would need an old CRT that can take RGBS

[2018-10-24 10:56:30] jezzab : But it would look very nice

[2018-10-24 10:59:27] jezzab : You might be able to use a monitor with a VGA input with it but you will need something to split the Csync into Hsync and Vsync coz it will be combined.

[2018-10-25 11:37:12] chipmangini : <https://www.suasnews.com/2018/10/dji-drops-airmap-and-increases-size-of-airport-no-fly-zones/?fbclid=IwAR1qY5oLdmqFGy9OE5Fnje0Qpl1Ku6pm3mIH-N-Ex1h6qZl-7KbdkWAG0KQ>

[2018-10-25 15:02:15] xela75 : what does it mean ? DJI creates smart NFZ ?

[2018-10-25 15:02:58] xela75 : It seems that it is no longer a simple circle but different levels with segments

[2018-10-25 15:11:32] validat0r : there's always been such kind of shapes

[2018-10-25 15:11:57] validat0r : i think only news is that they do it outside of mainland china

[2018-10-25 15:13:09] validat0r : ok, maybe the stuff with 8.5° angles is new

[2018-10-25 17:21:20] quad808 : Good ole DJI at it again

[2018-10-25 17:21:23] quad808 : !DJI

[2018-10-25 17:23:23] quad808 : Oh wait. This doesn't apply to my DJI drones. They are completely free from DJI. I feel bad. NOT.

[2018-10-25 17:49:54] andrwho25 : i’m tempted to smuggle a mavic air into morocco on vacation but ive heard horror stories

[2018-10-25 17:56:23] aciid : mask it as a toy>?

[2018-10-25 18:00:06] kilrah : i think it's one of the rare countries where you're 100% sure to get it confiscated

[2018-10-25 18:33:14] validat0r : morocco? really? at customs?

[2018-10-25 18:34:35] kilrah : yup

[2018-10-25 20:10:08] andrwho25 : yeah drones are illegal in the country. purportedly because someone was flying a drone around the kings house and was caught

[2018-10-25 20:11:31] fredmicrowave : if you go by plane, your luggage will pass thru a X-ray machine when **arriving** in Morroco...

[2018-10-25 20:12:58] validat0r : oh boy ..

[2018-10-25 20:35:41] fredmicrowave : And the King has lots of luxury residences, often the only green places in a country where water is rare and valuable. But you are not allowed take any photos of them. Just be careful, tourists are welcome, but freedom is fragile there... If you go by land it could be easier...

[2018-10-25 21:14:02] fredmicrowave : Lol <https://www.airvuz.com/video/AV-News-DJI-Demands-Withdrawal-of-Collision-Research?id=5bd20b4efa3bd30a2fdb1fff>

[2018-10-25 23:49:40] erwin : anyone knows if IBUS is bidirectional? like can I send values to my flysky to control my drone?

[2018-10-26 05:23:11] kilrah : more details needed

[2018-10-26 05:23:20] kilrah : it is bidirectional but probably not in the way you want

[2018-10-26 05:24:28] erwin : Like can I control the drone from the pc using the remote as middleman?

[2018-10-26 05:24:57] kilrah : nope

[2018-10-26 05:26:10] kilrah : ibus is a receiver side thing

[2018-10-26 05:26:19] kilrah : flysky's version of sbus2

[2018-10-26 05:26:42] kilrah : aka one 3-wire plug will carry control data from receiver to an FC and telemetry back from it

[2018-10-27 09:03:24] erwin : :confused:

[2018-10-27 09:03:36] erwin : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saZNlUlOspE>

[2018-10-27 09:07:59] cantrepeat : Looks like it worked really well

[2018-10-27 09:09:59] cantrepeat : That's very good weld on the thick metal!

[2018-10-27 09:10:04] erwin : yes! finally I can reuse all my mavic cells :stuck_out_tongue: (the tabs were too small and delicate for normal soldering)

[2018-10-27 09:29:31] cantrepeat : got a link to the welder?

[2018-10-27 09:31:12] erwin : yes, video description

[2018-10-31 19:32:01] chipmangini : Happy Halloween!

[2018-11-04 21:20:31] erwin : I dont know if there is a way to control an RC remote to control drones from the PC in a fast way, but I found an easy way :smile: (maybe I am reinventing the wheel... all the simulator wires I found aren't bidirectional) <https://youtu.be/loRRp7eqXt4>

[2018-11-05 09:35:38] ender : Guys, i need some web-hackers help here :slightly_smiling_face: I have a small casting dongle (MiraScreen5G) that is hardware wise identical to a much more expensive device (EZCast5G). When using the update tool it gets the product id, sends it to the company web server and then gets back an answer which fw to download and to flash. How would i intercept & modify the request (or the answer) so it would download & flash the better firmware to essentially upgrade its quality ? I learned about this idea/fact here but the author did not provide details: <https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-tv/chromecast/hacking-mirascreen5g-dongle-to-ezcast5g-t3720634>

[2018-11-05 09:36:21] ender : He mentioned miniweb but how could that serve that purpose ? i would think it must be more like a proxy where i can on the fly filter & modify requests and/or anwers…

[2018-11-05 10:05:53] erwin : I have a mirascreen but one of those crappy round ones, what do you gain with this?

[2018-11-05 10:06:17] erwin : since the requests do not use auth/ssl then you just need to set your laptop as a wifi hotspot

[2018-11-05 10:07:49] erwin : and use a webserver to host canned responses (fw and ota_rx.php <- it could be a plain file with just the response you need to give back). Then edit the hosts file adding "127.0.0.1 [www.iezvu.com](http://www.iezvu.com)"

[2018-11-05 10:13:02] ender : --> the ezcast fw is more stable and allows the native ezcast cnnection in addition to miracast & Aircast.

[2018-11-05 10:14:21] erwin : oh I have to check, I think I have ezcast. But it is garbage anyway

[2018-11-05 10:16:14] ender : not mine :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-11-05 10:16:24] ender : really low latency and stable connection

[2018-11-05 10:16:41] ender : I have original AND OEM… MiraSCreen5G & EZCast5G and EZCAst 4k

[2018-11-05 10:16:51] ender : they add about 80ms

[2018-11-05 10:16:58] erwin : after trying the MS dongle, the other ones feel crap

[2018-11-05 10:17:00] erwin : :confused:

[2018-11-05 10:17:14] ender : which one ? And in which way do they feel crappier ?

[2018-11-05 10:17:21] erwin : like the latency

[2018-11-05 10:17:28] ender : less than 80 ?

[2018-11-05 10:17:41] erwin : <https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-us/products/adapters/wireless-display-adapter-2/p3q-00001>

[2018-11-05 10:17:47] erwin : that feels like a normal extended desktop

[2018-11-05 10:17:50] erwin : in 4k

[2018-11-05 10:17:58] ender : Thats probably miracast protocol, right ?

[2018-11-05 10:18:11] erwin : yeah pretty sure

[2018-11-05 10:18:44] ender : can it do 5G ? 2,4 is useless to me (i use it for generic HDMI FPV so cant use 2,4G)

[2018-11-05 10:19:32] ender : My main OS is OSX so i use one of my dongles just as extended display via Aircast, that also works very good so i am happy with my EZCast dongles

[2018-11-05 10:19:52] ender : i have not used Miracast much…

[2018-11-05 10:20:03] ender : Well lets see if i can get to work that hint of yours…

[2018-11-05 10:20:41] erwin :

[2018-11-05 10:21:27] erwin : it is super smooth even in splitted video and crap like that, the round miracast I have home feels like shit with tiny lag. But I am not sure if it plays with OSX

[2018-11-05 10:33:46] ender : need to try it, but do you have an idea if it can do 5G ?

[2018-11-05 10:34:27] ender : BTW cross update seems to work, its flashing right now, lets see if it is an EZCAST afterward or a paperweight :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-11-05 12:34:01] ender : BTW: i got it to work, THANKS eried, its really long ago i did something similar. !!!!

[2018-11-05 13:36:47] erwin : nice!!!

[2018-11-05 13:37:15] erwin : I did the same for the silencioRC :stuck_out_tongue: hahaha but he uses ssl so not as easy

[2018-11-05 13:37:29] erwin : (I paid my silencioRC, but just wanted to play with it)

[2018-11-05 15:57:16] kilrah : too late but you can use the same charlesproxy or fiddler like for getting old ipas off the itunes store, even with ssl

[2018-11-05 15:59:54] erwin : Fiddler does not play that well with SSL, if the app is checking the certificate itself.

[2018-11-05 16:00:25] kilrah : yeah, haven't come across an example of that yet though :smile:

[2018-11-05 16:39:36] ender : I actually looked at Fiddler but looked complicated to me when eried plotted his easy solution…

[2018-11-05 16:40:55] ender : P.S. i knew you guys do that request / answer faking all the time so i was a bit ashamed of asking BTW :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-11-05 16:42:21] ender : is charlesproxy also about automatic modding of requests / answers or “only” monitoring ? I got that impression looking at it…

[2018-11-05 16:44:23] cs2000 : it does both. Can monitor, then you can insert a breakpoint, edit a request and issue it.

[2018-11-05 16:45:05] ender : uhhh okay, that was exactly what came to my mind before eried pointed out that much easier solution, wasnt aware of that “create text file named like php and contents is answer” method at all…

[2018-11-05 16:45:41] ender : i really lack in depth http-inner-workings knowledge…

[2018-11-05 16:47:04] cs2000 : have you seen digdat's video on getting the older versions of the app from itunes? It gives you a pretty good look at what charles can actually do :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-11-12 00:13:40] chipmangini : <https://youtu.be/aivvwBM5h_Y>

[2018-11-12 00:14:07] chipmangini : I would fly/ride one!

[2018-11-12 02:08:02] borillion_star : just don't fall into the props :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-11-12 02:09:17] chipmangini : A flying Cuisinart!... :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

[2018-11-12 03:04:45] borillion_star : ROFL

[2018-11-12 09:57:14] mr.vibez : anyone here build google assistant apps? Do I really need to use dialogflow?

[2018-11-15 11:08:43] 957435461 : 我来来

[2018-11-15 11:08:50] 957435461 : 有中国人吗？

[2018-11-16 21:20:20] chipmangini : <https://dronedj.com/2018/11/15/hover-2-announced/>

[2018-11-16 22:30:27] andrwho25 : looks like a self driving car

[2018-11-17 22:44:25] nabelo : I like it :upside_down_face:

[2018-11-17 23:06:08] chipmangini : Useful and fairly inexpensive for what it is/does.....

[2018-11-18 14:07:57] chipmangini : <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-14/dji-drones-were-exposed-to-security-flaw/10491150>

[2018-11-18 14:08:06] chipmangini : Wow!

[2018-11-19 13:56:52] mladen.milic2000 : @chipmangini Hello Doctor! :smile: I'm a new member here, just wanted to ask You for help, if it is possible! Thanks!! :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-11-19 14:33:50] chipmangini : @mladen.milic2000 I may be able to help. What's up?

[2018-11-19 14:51:34] mladen.milic2000 : I want to modify my Spark, so it can go over 500m. is it possible?

[2018-11-19 14:51:46] mladen.milic2000 : I searched the wiki, but there's only info for other drones, not spark :disappointed:

[2018-11-19 14:52:07] cs2000 : <https://nolimitdronez.com>

[2018-11-19 14:52:24] mladen.milic2000 : i don't have any money currently for NLD :))

[2018-11-19 14:52:27] cs2000 : The info for Height+500m deffo is on the wiki, but its simpler with NLD

[2018-11-19 14:52:44] mladen.milic2000 : Is it for the Spark?

[2018-11-19 14:53:02] cs2000 : NLD is for loads of drones <https://nolimitdronez.com/birdmap>

[2018-11-19 14:53:13] mladen.milic2000 : Sorry, I meant the wiki link.

[2018-11-19 14:53:43] cs2000 : yeah, its all in there

[2018-11-19 14:53:54] mladen.milic2000 : Can you provide me a link :smile:

[2018-11-19 14:54:13] cs2000 : <https://dji.retroroms.info/howto/parameterhacks>

[2018-11-19 14:55:12] mladen.milic2000 : and this works for all drones and all firmwares? Thanks!!

[2018-11-19 14:56:02] cs2000 : Yep, well, most, but deffo for spark assuming youre on the right firmware. Cant really say much more as i think NLD would be better for you and i do support for it

[2018-11-19 14:56:53] mladen.milic2000 : i'm at the latest firmware XD I'd buy the NLD if I had the money but..

[2018-11-19 14:57:06] cs2000 : so youre gonna have to downgrade your firmware

[2018-11-19 14:57:18] mladen.milic2000 : no idea how :X

[2018-11-19 14:58:17] cs2000 : look around the blog mate. Our whole thing here is learning. We have EVERYTHING documented, we have done the hard work. All you need to do is find it

[2018-11-19 14:58:48] mladen.milic2000 : Yeah, I understand, i'm a newbie unfortunately. Thanks !

[2018-11-19 15:00:26] cs2000 : Its no problem, this entire group were "newbies" 18-24 months ago, we all have to start somewhere. But seeing as we dont charge for this info, we expect people to do some research :slightly_smiling_face: NLD is there for the people that just want it to work and dont want to do any leg work. Trust me, what youre doing is not hard, VERY well documented. One sensible search term on the wiki would show you what to do

[2018-11-19 15:02:25] mladen.milic2000 : yes, you're absolutely right. Sorry and thanks again:)

[2018-11-19 15:03:26] cs2000 : No need to apologise, just do some reading. When you have some info and have a proper question, people are more than happy to help.

[2018-11-19 15:04:48] validat0r : and, for spark, look into ~spark

[2018-11-19 16:09:57] rcflyer40t : @chipmangini wow, I wonder how many ppl have clocked in this "link" in some forum. Interesting flaw and exploit. It's a good thing I don't fly while connected online or use the same equipment for everyday use.

[2018-11-19 17:39:34] quad808 : @cs2000 Who you callin' a newbie? :joy:

[2018-11-20 11:50:45] eitan1195 : !wiki

[2018-11-20 12:56:24] nabelo : I like it too :smile:

[2018-11-21 18:51:15] borillion_star : so I know its rando, but would flying a m1p in a light rain kill it?

[2018-11-21 18:56:16] rickw001 : not very smart

[2018-11-21 19:01:12] borillion_star : The brushless motors are water resistant. The battery has a gap where water can get into the body. As well as the intake duct. Those are not impossible to protect from water entry.

[2018-11-21 22:14:07] lolo780 : Tape over the battery. Compressed air after flying

[2018-11-22 00:36:44] andrwho25 : tempted to buy a MP2 but I don’t even fly my MA at all

[2018-11-22 01:00:56] borillion_star : @andrwho25 lol if your not flying then why?

[2018-11-22 01:01:04] andrwho25 : cant say no to a good deal

[2018-11-22 01:01:08] andrwho25 : lol

[2018-11-22 02:28:22] borillion_star : lolo

[2018-11-22 02:48:45] lolo780 : Buy it

[2018-11-22 02:50:29] lolo780 : <https://i.imgur.com/3S75K8a.png> Rain or shine

[2018-11-22 02:51:20] lolo780 : That's after a 36.6km flight

[2018-11-22 12:56:51] fredmicrowave : Never got problems flying in light rain or condensing clouds (except on lens of course) . Water is no big deal for motors, centrifugal forces will expel water from bearings, and everything else is hot and should evaporate quickly, specially if you tape it as lolo said.

[2018-11-23 08:58:56] cs2000 : I also got caught in a semi heavy rain shower once when out flying, bird was probably in the air for 5-7 mins in rain. Once landed i removed the battery, blew in the motors and left it upside down (dont know why i felt that was best) to dry, seems unharmed.

[2018-11-25 13:34:33] chipmangini : One hell of a pilot! <https://youtu.be/i5i0SKQwOns>

[2018-11-25 13:44:05] rickw001 : wow

[2018-11-25 14:51:33] chipmangini : Ya think!

[2018-11-30 20:55:21] kilrah : damn, had to reboot my adsb feeder pi after 157 days :disappointed:

[2018-11-30 21:11:40] validat0r : is there a adsb service that doesnt filter GAF flights?

[2018-12-01 10:31:11] cantrepeat : 55 days is my longest up time. Well, I've only had it for 55 days.

[2018-12-01 10:46:30] kilrah : lol

[2018-12-01 10:47:42] cantrepeat : My farthest flight track is right at 180 miles

[2018-12-01 10:48:16] cantrepeat : the data says I have a couple at 250+ but I've never seen that with my eye

[2018-12-01 10:49:20] cantrepeat : on 30 day site rankings I'm 5381 and don't expect to go much higher. I don't have enough air traffic to push it up.

[2018-12-01 13:04:13] kilrah : 3973 here

[2018-12-01 13:04:58] kilrah : none at >250 but 28 today in 200-250

[2018-12-01 13:05:42] kilrah : about 1700 planes/day avg

[2018-12-01 13:17:06] cantrepeat : yeah, I'm closer to 1000 a day with a high around 1200 and low of 850 or so.

[2018-12-01 13:17:37] cantrepeat : after 55 days I'm already trending down in the rankings

[2018-12-01 13:18:15] cantrepeat : I've gone down to 5391 just this AM

[2018-12-01 13:19:11] kilrah : I lost 40 ranks vs yesterday, probably cause of being down for those few hours :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-12-01 13:19:23] kilrah : 508 days since install though

[2018-12-01 13:19:40] kilrah : and outages have always been short enough not to count as an interruption

[2018-12-01 13:27:18] cantrepeat : We had a hurricane come through and power was out for almost 2 days. It was long enough that they downgraded my account on both Flightaware and flightrader.

[2018-12-01 13:27:57] cantrepeat : it's been a fun project.

[2018-12-02 05:06:51] abdo054 : Cool feature! <https://youtu.be/WtCXmJ1CKEo>

[2018-12-03 22:35:34] chipmangini : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va3xOJnElOE&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2L1DtTvWVwXInU3lM3VbNsCYbzBgymT9UIRmIymea0vDhoGBrs7IDe1aE>

[2018-12-04 01:52:28] abdo054 : <https://youtu.be/2T4mw5Qe4jE>

[2018-12-04 07:35:29] ender : Well thats … weird AND great at the same time. I guess i still have those freak genes inside :wink:

[2018-12-05 17:31:00] cantrepeat : I want and new android based tablet small then 10 inches, closer to 8 - what's good?

[2018-12-06 18:15:20] avunduk : Mipad 4 looks nice

[2018-12-06 18:17:56] cantrepeat : Yeah, but hard pressed to find one in the US

[2018-12-06 19:38:10] rickw001 : $190 on ebay

[2018-12-06 20:16:52] cantrepeat : Thanks. I don't generally buy anything off of ebay. Normally just stuff I can't find any where else; discontinued or used items.

[2018-12-06 20:18:11] ender : w00t

[2018-12-06 23:06:58] avunduk : If seller is reliable go for it, I bring stuff from US to Istanbul via ebay, didn't have a problem

[2018-12-07 03:10:57] fredmicrowave : I buy everything from ebay. Never had big problems.

[2018-12-07 08:47:42] avunduk : And ebay protects Buyer first, I would go for it

[2018-12-08 12:39:49] cantrepeat : Well, looks like the only place to get that tab in the US is through ebay. So I bought one. snapdragon, oreo based OS MIUI 9

[2018-12-08 12:52:01] rickw001 : $190 ?

[2018-12-08 13:04:18] cantrepeat : 318 US

[2018-12-08 13:04:52] cantrepeat : <https://www.ebay.com/itm/232994400712>

[2018-12-08 13:06:24] cantrepeat : LTE bumped the price up

[2018-12-08 13:20:26] rickw001 : that was the one to get:+1:

[2018-12-08 13:22:04] cantrepeat : Now I need to look at rooting options for it. :smile:

[2018-12-11 12:15:00] cantrepeat : lol, 3 days after purchase I get an email saying the one I bought is out of stock. :disappointed:

[2018-12-11 12:42:30] rickw001 : wtf

[2018-12-11 13:03:28] cantrepeat : yeah, pretty much why I hate ebay.

[2018-12-11 13:14:54] fredmicrowave : Lol. That´s like hating tall people because one of them robbed you once. This seller has done this before, and is feedback is not very good. There others, like that one: <https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xiaomi-Mi-Pad-4-8-Tablet-Snapdragon-Wifi-LTE-32-64GB-BT4-0-Android-PC-Tablets/223228913222?hash=item33f97ae646:m:mZo6Uqtcb7ma_5nexNAjG1g:rk:1:pf:0>

[2018-12-11 13:52:35] cantrepeat : In general terms this has been the norm for me on ebay.

[2018-12-11 14:25:17] rickw001 : keep the faith,I've always done pretty well with ebay

[2018-12-11 15:06:40] fredmicrowave : Exactly. It was just just bad luck. Check feedback, and sometimes it may be worth to pay a few $ more for a good feedback.

[2018-12-11 15:45:02] cantrepeat : I would have gladly paid $50 more for it on amazon.

[2018-12-11 15:49:23] avunduk : Gearbest keeps it under 200 usd, 4gb / 64gb

[2018-12-11 15:49:27] fredmicrowave : I think you should be good from the link i sent you. There are plenty in stock :slightly_smiling_face:

[2018-12-11 15:50:23] fredmicrowave : Kemal, he needs the LTE

[2018-12-11 15:50:48] avunduk : <https://m-tr.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_009231100616.html?wid=1349303>

[2018-12-11 15:50:54] avunduk : Ah, sorry

[2018-12-11 16:06:44] cantrepeat : Wonder how long it will take to get a refund. They deducted the money with out having the item in stock.

[2018-12-11 16:12:22] rickw001 : did you pay with paypal?

[2018-12-11 16:13:42] rickw001 : if so,usually 2-3 days

[2018-12-11 16:14:49] cantrepeat : um, no I used a CC on ebay

[2018-12-11 16:16:19] rickw001 : call them and cancel

[2018-12-11 17:06:18] kilrah : no paypal makes it much harder

[2018-12-12 21:21:11] boris.plintovic : try anyone to decompile dji MIMO? decompilation works but the compilation crashes

[2018-12-12 22:50:27] erwin : Can i see the flightlog in djigo from nld?

[2018-12-12 23:15:47] quad808 : yes. Sign in to GO with the same user and pass you used to install GO

[2018-12-13 10:41:53] cantrepeat : ha! Got the refund already. Order using @fredmicrowave link. Need to find out about ROMs for it.

[2018-12-13 15:46:58] validat0r : <https://youtu.be/jmKXCdEbF_E>

[2018-12-13 17:16:14] wouter : neat

[2018-12-14 09:51:29] good.win.alexs : nice concept, but practically useless

[2018-12-14 12:43:20] aciid : <https://m.imgur.com/a/BjB1oeR>

[2018-12-14 12:43:26] aciid : 360 gimbal

[2018-12-14 12:43:42] aciid : Old workplace asked to take a peek

[2018-12-16 13:31:41] webmaster : <https://www.ebay.de/itm/8-4-inch-2560-1600-Android-8-1-IPS-MT6797-X20-Deca-Core-3GB-32GB-Tablet-PC/264043169540?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140117130753%26meid%3D523083b0ccfc4a648596730c81f79ee1%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D113401165989%26itm%3D264043169540&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851> Nice price :yum:

[2018-12-16 14:02:50] cantrepeat : from what I've read so far snapdragon 660 > mediatek MT6797

[2018-12-20 07:20:47] abdo054 : <https://youtu.be/BsEltlIXkYg>

[2018-12-20 10:56:05] chipmangini : I own a set, they're awesome! You can see everything on the controller and have VLOS at the same time. I got the to go over them so they're better in the sun: <https://www.amazon.com/Rochester-Optical-Solitaire-ACE-Shield/dp/B076KSC4ZQ>

[2018-12-20 18:44:11] t3rm1 : how much do they cost?

[2018-12-20 18:45:05] cantrepeat : < 9000

[2018-12-20 20:06:03] aciid : ~800€

[2018-12-20 22:33:34] lolo780 : I have the old ones and they're not bad for the price

[2018-12-20 22:33:36] lolo780 : Bt300

[2018-12-21 17:17:38] erwin : New fucking dji osmo pocket is awesome! also: dont record inside sistine chapel <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ciusJ5n4UFS62SDm7>

[2018-12-21 17:19:19] erwin : had to sell my osmo mobile 2 after 1 minute testing the pocket :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-12-21 17:24:00] cantrepeat : Are you a dark jedi?

[2018-12-21 17:24:41] erwin : Nothing Is True, Everything Is Permitted.

[2018-12-21 17:25:30] erwin : it's the fucking vatican, how cant you NOT wear a hoodie

[2018-12-21 17:28:28] cantrepeat : did they tell you you could not wear a hoodie?

[2018-12-21 17:28:36] cantrepeat : I assume they told you to stop filming

[2018-12-21 17:29:15] cantrepeat : well, I assume you are doing the video. Guess I should ask if it is you lol

[2018-12-21 17:29:36] cantrepeat : and the video is amazingly clear!

[2018-12-21 17:30:21] erwin : nah, he was asking me to stop recording. God gets mad if you record too much

[2018-12-21 17:30:43] erwin : hoodie is allow unless you attempt to kill the pope with fancy parkeur

[2018-12-21 17:32:28] cantrepeat : yeah, I assume they don't want you to record because then people like me could just watch your video rather then go there.

[2018-12-21 17:33:08] erwin : I think is because assholes use flash, and wear out paintings, so ban for all. I dont usually take any pic, but new toy... so.

[2018-12-21 17:33:35] erwin : it is the same concept as scumbags stopping a whole airport

[2018-12-21 17:35:01] cantrepeat : right, you look like a dark jedi master with the hootie :smile:

[2018-12-21 17:35:18] erwin : <https://photos.app.goo.gl/165jEmXUB8NH9ho49> lol saw also that lady

[2018-12-21 17:35:39] erwin : so happy to be with 116 grams of camera

[2018-12-21 17:37:57] erwin : <https://photos.app.goo.gl/nY7CW5veqGKPXM8A7> low light performance. I think dji just mastered the camera/gimbal tech with this tiny toy

[2018-12-21 17:38:36] erwin : original footage is 4k, but google photos transcodes everything to full hd.

[2018-12-21 17:49:06] wouter : i am able to see it in 4k

[2018-12-21 17:49:41] wouter : looks like it was focus hunting a bit in the chapel - have you installed their latest firmware that supposedly improves focusing?

[2018-12-21 17:50:16] erwin : yes I did, a new mode appeared not sure the functionality tho

[2018-12-21 17:50:22] erwin : AFC vs AFS I think

[2018-12-21 17:50:56] erwin : also I noticed in the night, the levels are auto handled, and that sometimes suck

[2018-12-21 17:51:09] erwin : but you need dji mimo to tune that, no option in the device itself.

[2018-12-21 17:57:22] wouter : interesting

[2018-12-21 17:57:30] wouter : getting one of these for christmas, super stoked about it

[2018-12-21 17:57:56] wouter : i heard about tuning being only available when connected to the phone, which is a bit of a bummer

[2018-12-21 17:58:45] erwin : I agree, but I hope dji adds the pro modes

[2018-12-21 17:58:54] erwin : right now there is almost nothing on the device itself

[2018-12-21 17:59:00] erwin : and the connection to the phone sucks

[2018-12-21 17:59:06] erwin : maybe on iphone is better

[2018-12-21 17:59:16] wouter : gonna be pairing it with a pixel 3xl

[2018-12-21 17:59:26] wouter : how does it suck? comes undone easily?

[2018-12-21 17:59:31] erwin : yeah

[2018-12-21 17:59:42] erwin : prob to fit a lot of android phones

[2018-12-21 17:59:46] erwin : the usbc is long

[2018-12-21 17:59:50] erwin : so it has some play

[2018-12-21 18:00:22] erwin : maybe the wireless adaptor is a must but it is out of stock everywhere

[2018-12-21 18:01:07] wouter : i was afraid of that

[2018-12-21 18:01:20] wouter : i'd be fine with the pocket just staying stuck on the modes you dial in with the phone

[2018-12-21 18:02:01] erwin : yeah but it resets to default on disconnection

[2018-12-21 18:02:02] wouter : i grade everything, so ideally i'd like to shoot in dlog/d-cinelike always, even without the phone

[2018-12-21 18:02:06] erwin : works differently when connected

[2018-12-21 18:02:26] erwin : maybe a 3d printer sleeve

[2018-12-21 18:02:35] wouter : lol, was just thinking that

[2018-12-21 18:03:04] wouter : i bet they'll make a phone holder accessory before too long

[2018-12-21 18:03:28] erwin : in any case it is a tiny detail already, I mean it is not intended for pro market

[2018-12-21 18:03:36] erwin : most people dont even notice you have something

[2018-12-21 18:03:38] erwin : on your hands

[2018-12-21 18:03:45] wouter : agreed, but one can dream!

[2018-12-21 18:03:45] erwin : it is like a snickers bar

[2018-12-21 18:04:06] erwin : true, but they announced dcinelog

[2018-12-21 18:04:08] erwin : for next update

[2018-12-21 18:04:22] erwin : I hope adds more on display settings

[2018-12-21 18:04:26] erwin : the UI seems empty

[2018-12-21 18:04:31] erwin : compared to gopro for example

[2018-12-21 18:04:57] wouter : if any previous dji release is any indication, the early release versions are always stripped down

[2018-12-21 18:05:02] erwin : yeah

[2018-12-21 18:05:07] wouter : and then they backfill what they advertise

[2018-12-21 18:05:17] erwin : and you can hope until they just move to next one

[2018-12-21 18:05:19] wouter : kind of annoying, but from a qa perspective probably not a bad idea

[2018-12-21 18:05:21] erwin : and drop this one

[2018-12-21 18:05:28] erwin : so it has to be popular :stuck_out_tongue:

[2018-12-21 18:05:55] erwin : but right now, this is fucking solid

[2018-12-21 18:06:00] erwin : like is a pleasure to use

[2018-12-21 18:06:32] erwin : even those motion timelapses, in that tiny toy

[2018-12-21 18:06:36] erwin : it is just awesome

[2018-12-21 18:08:02] wouter : aaah, yes, looking forward to that

[2018-12-21 18:19:27] quad808 : @erwin <-- Jedi master...awesome!

[2018-12-21 18:23:57] erwin : Fuck starwars. Hoodie is because brotherhood. Didn't had a white one

[2018-12-21 18:31:33] kilrah : yup osmo pocket is awesome, friend received his, so tiny

[2018-12-22 14:24:10] mail451 : Hmm not bad quality of video on OSMO pocket

[2018-12-22 14:24:24] mail451 : Anybody know if Slack for Linux can be themed black?

[2018-12-22 14:24:33] mail451 : Just discovered i have burn in due to slack

[2018-12-22 16:19:19] erwin : <https://slackthemes.net/#/atom_one_dark>

[2018-12-22 16:22:19] cantrepeat : @mail451 slack burn in = slack addict!!! :smile:

[2018-12-22 16:22:38] mail451 : always have the work slack open lol

[2018-12-22 16:22:49] mail451 : and this slack as well

[2018-12-22 16:23:48] cantrepeat : that's a lot of slack there young man!!!

[2018-12-22 16:25:40] mail451 : it is

[2018-12-22 16:26:04] cantrepeat : @cs2000 the wiki is back up

[2018-12-23 11:32:02] cs2000 : @catalinaskirace thanks, i made some more edits today but its down again now!

[2018-12-23 11:36:16] cantrepeat : weird, it's loading for me, I'm in Alabama

[2018-12-25 10:43:43] capra_vecinului : Merry Christmas, folks. Thanks again for your work here; just wanted to share with you some good news: one of the winners in the list is mine, obviously a drone shot: <https://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/presenting-the-2018-winners-from-the-worlds-largest-photo-contest/>

[2018-12-25 10:49:13] d95gas : Awesome pics in that list, congrats on your photo getting picked

[2018-12-25 13:57:23] erwin : Nice!!

[2018-12-25 21:57:46] chipmangini : No drone gifts for me I guess!

[2018-12-25 22:06:20] validat0r : Next year better get a windshield, Santa

[2018-12-25 22:07:33] chipmangini : :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

[2018-12-28 09:52:21] slack1208 : Is anyone at 35C3 this week? There doesn't seem to be much of a drone community here this year :(

[2018-12-28 12:05:15] validat0r : Just watching from home

[2018-12-28 12:09:42] cantrepeat : got a streaming link?

[2018-12-28 12:10:10] slack1208 : <https://media.ccc.de/>

[2018-12-28 12:11:46] cantrepeat : sweet, thanks

[2018-12-28 12:32:12] validat0r : All talks are being streamed and recorded for later consumption - many in English, all live translated to English

[2018-12-28 12:51:37] validat0r : Congress schedule: <https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2018/Fahrplan/>

[2018-12-28 13:19:06] sheldon.holy : How is it @slack1208?

[2018-12-28 14:14:31] slack1208 : There's plenty of fun demos and workshops, definitely worth going. Distinct lack of flying objects though

[2018-12-28 23:03:21] good.win.alexs : !apk

[2018-12-29 16:50:30] luckfish1985 : Who knows what model of this chip? h3-3d gimbal for phantom 2v

[2018-12-29 18:58:19] slack1208 : This talk from 35c3 yesterday has some excellent advice for people here who would like to get into finding vulnerabilities and reverse engineering <https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9979-the_layman_s_guide_to_zero-day_engineering>

[2018-12-29 19:19:57] validat0r : <https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2018/Fahrplan/events/9788.html>

[2018-12-29 19:22:21] validat0r : this one is nice, too ... compilers are optimizing away code that is intended to clear encryption keys from memory .. according to mr. sprundel there are tons of zerodays in relation to that. talk isn't online, yet, but will be soon

[2018-12-29 22:30:10] slack1208 : <https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9788-memsad>

[2019-01-01 21:59:07] cantrepeat : My new resolutions are to stat smoking, drink more moonshine, eat more bacon and red meat, get addicted to heroin, do 3 to 5 in Folsom, write a love song, walk on the moon and sleep with a hooker that has no teeth!!

[2019-01-01 23:27:08] rickw001 : sounds like a great plan :grinning:

[2019-01-02 13:33:23] mikek : Another motor seemed to fix my motor #2 esc error, so a new arm and motor on its way, hopefully the bird will fly again, she's been grounded for almost a year

[2019-01-02 21:14:07] wouter : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2FemQrGfnM>

[2019-01-02 23:25:16] fredmicrowave : What !DJI has to say about using their drone for such movie ?

[2019-01-07 20:30:06] irischnpak : Group to the rescue! Any way to get Mavic 1 spare parts in Abu Dhabi or Dubai? The local DJI importer Aeromotus does not even have props...

[2019-01-07 21:04:51] aciid : @irischnpak could be that any consumer electronic stores would have props, this is the case atleast in finland

[2019-01-07 21:17:27] irischnpak : I don't need props. I got the infamous "gimbal overload" message und the gimbal won't initialize properly. Since the gimbal still turns in x/y/z axis during init, it must either be the camera cable or the gyro in the camera itself.

[2019-01-07 21:23:25] aciid : ahh, well that could obviously be harder to work with. if you are in a hurry, most of my parts I've ordered from dhgate/aliexpress have originated from singapore DHL

[2019-01-09 10:48:52] kbgroning : For DJI Inspire 1, is it possible to set battery to NON DJI?

[2019-01-11 19:18:06] cantrepeat : crazy new LG monitors <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJMHY5Gk48>

[2019-01-14 13:09:44] validat0r : oh boi .. Secretary of State for Defence is answering on illegal drone use in House of Commons in aprox. 60 min

[2019-01-14 13:17:32] cantrepeat : Is it streamed on the net?

[2019-01-14 13:18:26] validat0r : sure

[2019-01-14 14:44:03] validat0r : "rapid deployment of counter unmanned air systems"

[2019-01-14 14:47:00] validat0r : bla bla bla

[2019-01-14 14:47:54] validat0r : "can't go into the details of the capabilities we have, but the system is incredible effective"

[2019-01-14 14:48:43] validat0r : that's it

[2019-01-14 14:53:04] validat0r : gatwick bought a similar system as heathrow

[2019-01-14 15:03:02] validat0r : this should be sweet: the UK global position system

[2019-01-14 15:05:13] validat0r : 92 mio pound currently allocated for this

[2019-01-16 02:34:07] andrwho25 : if you want a good laugh: <https://www.facebook.com/NBCNews/videos/vb.155869377766434/1983427391692898/?type=2&theater>

[2019-01-16 11:05:46] cantrepeat : Win the college football National Championship game get invited to the White House only to get served McDonalds!!! lofuckingL

[2019-01-16 11:11:47] validat0r : can't imaging those burgers, fries and pizzas were still hot ..

[2019-01-16 11:33:17] cantrepeat : Can you imagine how disgustingly cold the fries were? For me, if they are not hot right out of the fryer they are crap.

[2019-01-16 12:19:37] xela75 : claro que si !

[2019-01-16 12:45:44] fredmicrowave : Does he really says " Grab one guys, nobody wants that anyway" at the very end ?

[2019-01-16 23:33:10] erwin : Actually I think Trump is cool now. Hahaha instead of fucking fancy snob food he throws some cheap tasty shit

[2019-01-17 14:45:12] sorenson4456 : <https://gizmodo.com/man-injects-18-doses-of-semen-into-arm-to-cure-back-pai-1831817131>

[2019-01-19 23:22:22] chipmangini : I just wish I could fly my P4P as good as this guy loading Christmas Trees! Whoa!!!! <https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=08K_aEajzNA>

[2019-01-19 23:27:23] lolo780 : P4P is easy to fly...

[2019-01-19 23:27:42] lolo780 : Try manual mode for some excitement.

[2019-01-19 23:31:51] chipmangini : Atti is fun, but talk about skill!

[2019-01-21 01:13:01] borillion_star : Does anyone know anything about lipo batteries? Its out of a tablet and I want to try and force charge it a bit from my hobby charger. Looks like there are two cells? <https://ibin.co/4UDj8I96amC1.png>

[2019-01-21 01:28:37] andrwho25 : Wait for it...

[2019-01-21 03:18:41] fredmicrowave : Usually tablet lipos are one cell only. is the charger 5v ? The protection circuit sometimes shuts off and wont let the internal circuit charge, so using external charger for a moment can be a good idea. You should really make sure of how many cells it is before messing with it, but If you can't, start with 1s only. Those wires could be for a temp sensor...

[2019-01-21 09:15:00] freaky123 : all this violence against machines :cry:

[2019-01-21 10:24:58] cantrepeat : what is that thing?

[2019-01-21 10:25:35] validat0r : robo cop .. no joke

[2019-01-21 10:26:24] validat0r : google Knightscope

[2019-01-21 10:27:03] validat0r : <http://www.kosovapress.com/public/uploads/image/security-bot-knightscope-water-e1500370047883-800x568.jpg>

[2019-01-21 10:27:22] validat0r : I guess they get their firmware from DJI

[2019-01-21 10:28:13] validat0r : I wonder if they have a model Kightscope Industries Two Thousand ..

[2019-01-21 10:33:52] cantrepeat : lol, I wonder if David Hasselhoff is going to be the spokeman for the company!!!

[2019-01-21 10:33:59] cantrepeat : spokesman even

[2019-01-21 11:02:48] andrwho25 :

[2019-01-21 11:04:36] validat0r : Slick

[2019-01-21 11:04:52] validat0r : You just want to kuddle it

[2019-01-21 11:05:08] validat0r : Or tipp over

[2019-01-21 19:07:40] mavpac : Tipp over - :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

[2019-01-22 23:48:18] chipmangini : One more for the crew..... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=181&v=9ElNjgZCDpQ>

[2019-01-22 23:48:46] chipmangini : Now THAT would certainly do the job!

[2019-01-22 23:50:38] chipmangini : I want one for the kid next door that does burnouts in his modded diesel Ford in front of my house!

[2019-01-23 00:00:18] bobdole : you know... at least those modded diesels are fast. what the hell is up with every idiot putting the biggest fartcan sounding exhaust on his 20sec truck?

[2019-01-23 00:01:03] bobdole : usually they have a decal on their truck indicating what kind of gun you can steal from them also. not sure how that became trendy

[2019-01-23 00:01:18] bobdole : KIDS THESE DAYS

[2019-01-23 00:52:35] quad808 : GET OFF MY LAWN

[2019-01-23 00:54:43] fredmicrowave : Chrome spray paint .

[2019-01-23 00:57:14] cantrepeat : @quad808 great line from a great movie! lol

[2019-01-23 13:46:33] validat0r : <https://twitter.com/3lbios/status/1087848040583626753>

[2019-01-23 17:20:55] makingthisnameup : Wow. That's all sorts of not good

[2019-01-23 17:45:45] cantrepeat : but, TBH if you are using freeware/shareware to encrypt files you ARE getting what you paid for.

[2019-01-23 19:57:06] mefisto : You know, that is still half IV better than you get with Dji. And you do pay them :p

[2019-01-26 10:29:32] aciid : Welcome to Finland

[2019-01-26 11:47:03] spiteri.michael : Hey everyone! I need a new eeprom programmer to program 27c256 and other parallel eeprom such as 39sf010. I the past I have used vs4000 and a G54 from Stager, but now as my second vs4000 has issues programming the higher address spaces in the 27c256, it can go fuck itself! I am looking for a recommendation on a new programmer. Must run from USB and at least be compatible with win 7, without breaking the bank! Any suggestions? Thanks

[2019-01-26 13:14:59] spiteri.michael : Wellon Vp299 is looking attractive.

[2019-01-26 14:04:24] fredmicrowave : I had problems in the past with 27c256 until I made a better UV eraser . Putting it in the sunlight is not enough :grin:

[2019-01-26 20:03:38] webmaster : <http://www.zebax.com/index_files/usbtypec.htm>

[2019-01-26 20:04:00] webmaster : With this, you can finally reach 10km+ with Spark/MA, lol

[2019-01-26 21:08:51] spiteri.michael : Fred, LOL! unfortunately, these 27c's are one time programmables, every time it fails, another $2 pissed down the drain!

[2019-01-29 18:41:52] d95gas : Anyone here managed to the Huawei M5 8.4" into Developer mode using the usual Tapping on Build number? Tried all sorts on mine and just cannot get Dev mode to appear!!

[2019-01-29 18:42:49] rickw001 : yes,me,lol

[2019-01-29 18:45:41] lolo780 : Tap harder?

[2019-01-29 18:47:33] rickw001 : I didn't count,just kept tapping

[2019-01-29 19:07:20] rickw001 : first thing I did after setup

[2019-01-29 19:37:12] d95gas : Sorted after nearly wearing the finger out. Rebooted and it kicked in. Now to play with DPI GO4

[2019-01-29 19:39:17] d95gas : Actually just sussed the issue. I have 2 profiles on the M5. Dev mode only shows on the primary account

[2019-01-29 19:47:14] quad808 : M5 is the shit

[2019-01-29 19:53:31] quad808 : Use SecondScreen to change the DPI for GO if you need to. 320 works

[2019-01-29 19:56:21] rickw001 : hey gas,lets put my ipa problems on the back burner until they get ipa's and tweaks figured out,no rush,glad you got dev mode

[2019-01-29 23:13:13] chipmangini : @quad808 Here's another good way to spend money if u want an awesome tablet.(not that u need one with the Moverio's) <https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1438594-REG/huawei_53010bjj_mediapad_m5_10_8_tablet_wifi.html>

[2019-01-29 23:14:17] chipmangini : $359.00 US

[2019-01-29 23:15:48] chipmangini : I paid $100 more months ago and love this thing, albeit rooted with custom ROM....:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

[2019-01-29 23:22:47] rickw001 : where did you locate to unlock bootloader?

[2019-01-29 23:24:10] rickw001 : info

[2019-01-29 23:36:45] chipmangini : @rickw001 <https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/development/rom-lineageos-15-1-t3813826>

[2019-01-30 00:04:16] rickw001 : thanks,will check that out

[2019-01-30 00:06:24] rickw001 : that's the rom,trying to unlock bootloader Huawei quit giving them out

[2019-01-30 00:33:08] quad808 : @chipmangini Quit trying to cost me $$...LOL! I already have the M5 8"

[2019-01-30 00:34:37] chipmangini : How are you liking the Moverio's?

[2019-01-30 00:48:52] rickw001 : haha

[2019-01-30 02:39:40] quad808 : dude...it is the BEST!

[2019-01-30 11:41:19] chipmangini : :+1:

[2019-01-30 15:20:19] d95gas : Despite my nice pleading email to Huawei for Bootloader unlock, even providing them with an indemnity certificate ..... Computer still said no :disappointed:

[2019-01-30 21:21:48] chipmangini : @d95gas Maybe this will help? <https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-guide-t3781275>

[2019-01-30 21:22:53] chipmangini : That's what I did with my 10.5 ...

[2019-01-30 22:11:42] rickw001 : problem is Huawei won't give out unlock codes anymore,the place I checked wanted $4,but my new version they can't do

[2019-01-30 22:54:58] chipmangini : @rickw001 Damn, it worked for me, but that was months ago......:expressionless:

[2019-01-30 22:59:04] rickw001 : started late last summer,d95gas and I just got them last couple of weeks

[2019-02-03 02:51:23] cantrepeat : why does it burn when I pee?

[2019-02-03 03:25:22] mrbracht : You must have slept with a unclean lady :thinking_face:

[2019-02-03 15:01:53] chipmangini : I gotta get one of these.... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFNGdGdRfRE>

[2019-02-03 15:37:25] d95gas : I want, I want, I want :slightly_smiling_face: so much fun to be had with that

[2019-02-03 17:50:42] teslahv : They gave up deleting that mod threads?

[2019-02-03 20:46:43] sheldon.holy : Has anyone seen these "Mavic Wetsuits"

[2019-02-03 20:46:52] sheldon.holy : I've never seen such a huge load of bullshit in my life

[2019-02-03 20:52:37] teslahv : Nolimitdronez using stage1.bin from jcase :) (As expected from reading RCG thread)

[2019-02-03 20:53:43] teslahv : (Can anyone see my pictures in the first place? Slack's giving me a warning)

[2019-02-03 21:17:42] pross : I can. > Can anyone see my pictures in the first place?

[2019-02-04 06:19:03] kilrah : More than a year ago

[2019-02-04 09:40:58] cs2000 : Correct. NLD is authorised by all the people who's work we (NLD) use to use their stuff in a commercial aspect.

[2019-02-04 19:28:44] bobdole : why i did i put m2 propellers on my mavic pro platinum? i had to nick the top cover to clear the back props... its a little lower pitch

[2019-02-04 19:28:52] bobdole : i think i need help

[2019-02-04 21:38:08] teslahv : Run!!!! Faster!! (ty jcase ;) )

[2019-02-04 21:38:48] teslahv : Sorry but pic was taken in train^^

[2019-02-04 21:46:28] bobdole : thats cheating

[2019-02-04 23:21:02] teslahv : How not to cheat then?

[2019-02-05 04:56:20] bobdole : don't race on a train

[2019-02-05 05:33:41] teslahv : Hahaha xD

[2019-02-05 05:35:03] teslahv : That race was in fact won in a minute! :)

[2019-02-05 13:22:26] cantrepeat : In case you did not know, they're taking the hobbits to Isengard!!

[2019-02-05 23:02:30] dangerm0us : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE-1RPDqJAY>

[2019-02-05 23:06:25] beerniso : !Beer

[2019-02-06 16:31:05] sheldon.holy : The mods seem useless on there. I've sent them questions about rules (eg advertising) and had no response ever

[2019-02-06 16:37:10] teslahv : Ok ty

[2019-02-06 16:37:31] teslahv : !dji

[2019-02-06 16:40:57] bobdole : i made a post discussing that moderation and got a ban

[2019-02-06 16:42:04] bobdole : and then the admin came and removed the ban ... not sure what was going on there, not that i really care. maybe just some miscommunication with their game warden

[2019-02-06 18:33:26] teslahv : Hahaha

[2019-02-06 18:37:24] teslahv : Funny, feels like I was insider from the beginning, though I only have read the RCG thread and never experienced that DJI Modding subject by myself^^ Heck wasn't even interested at all in drones back in Spring/Summer 2017.

[2019-02-06 18:52:42] bobdole : i think i was interested in drones before there were drones because of science fiction.. and then !DJI made it happen for consumers

[2019-02-06 19:06:43] quad808 : !beer

[2019-02-06 21:52:52] cantrepeat : Mike mike mike what day is it!!!

[2019-02-06 21:58:18] chipmangini : Hump Day!

[2019-02-06 22:34:26] irischnpak : !apk

[2019-02-06 22:36:13] irischnpak : Can you fly a Mavic 2 Pro with a modded Go4.1.22 app? Mine at least recognizes the M2 remote as a M1

[2019-02-07 01:29:03] lolo780 : Good question, I never bothered to try. For NFZ reasons?

[2019-02-07 03:13:42] kilrah : No, need at least 4.3.0

[2019-02-08 16:58:39] bobdole : did anyone get a xiaomi fimi x8 se? if so how is it?

[2019-02-08 16:59:21] cantrepeat : I end up with a Mi Pad4

[2019-02-08 17:14:32] bobdole : i bet that would work great in the fimi x8 se controller. as far as underpriced tablets with a tendency for sending packets to beijing... i ended up with a chuwi hi9 air. the mi pad 4 is better in almost all ways but i wanted the extra resolution and screen size

[2019-02-08 17:46:23] webmaster : Which version of Android is the Hi9 Air running?

[2019-02-08 17:53:51] bobdole : it comes with 8.0

[2019-02-08 18:21:25] webmaster : That's nice, not seen any budget tablets with newer android versions, I hope mostly stock GUI, tho.

[2019-02-08 18:30:30] quad808 : Hows this for a random question....Android devices...Netflix and Spectrum app, (probably others) puke when you are running VPN...is there anyway to hide the VPN from the program seeing that you are running one??

[2019-02-08 18:35:30] webmaster : Does it detect by a list of IP ranges or does it see the VPN app running?

[2019-02-08 18:50:21] cantrepeat : Mi pad 4 is also running 8.1

[2019-02-08 19:06:27] quad808 : @webmaster It sees the VPN app...from what I have read so far, not easy to hide it unless you edit the app itself, like Spectrum TV so it doesn't check, but if there is another way, I am all ears

[2019-02-08 19:34:15] bin4ry : does it detect the packageid or the tunnel? does it work with private tunnels? if yes try cloning the app and give it another package name so it won’t be detected anymore

[2019-02-08 19:52:59] quad808 : Doesn't work with private tunnels. Will try app cloner and see if that works...

[2019-02-08 19:56:00] quad808 : Unless there is a particular app I should use to clone?

[2019-02-09 05:55:16] bin4ry : if it doesn’t work with private tunnels there is no need to change the package id, they are just looking for tunnels at all, no way to hide the tunnel on the phone, you could however ofc create the tunnel on your router. or crack the app itself :joy:

[2019-02-09 18:16:38] quad808 : Yah, thats what I thought. Of course, it's not THAT important, but was looking for an easy solution since I am just a wee bit lazy...LOL

[2019-02-09 18:30:48] bobdole : are you trying to get around a vpn on a company laptop or something

[2019-02-09 18:31:44] bobdole : oh android.. nevermind

[2019-02-12 15:55:18] mail451 : mate don't pull an at channel

[2019-02-12 15:55:23] jakub : >channel

[2019-02-12 15:55:24] pross : Thx.

[2019-02-12 15:55:24] jakub : ehh

[2019-02-12 15:56:09] sheldon.holy : It's too late, the damage is done

[2019-02-12 15:56:09] jakub : <https://faqs.skillcrush.com/article/142-what-is-the-difference> read this first

[2019-02-12 15:56:40] sciencetv : Sorry!

[2019-02-12 15:57:40] sciencetv : Here's the message without! Hi everyone, I'm looking for somebody in the UK to help with a project for a TV show. We're hoping to reverse engineer a drone and get around restrictions. If anyone can help and is interested in finding out more, please send me a direct message or email [sciencetv@pm.me](mailto:sciencetv@pm.me) thanks! *note that no identities would be revealed

[2019-02-12 15:58:08] pingspike : how much are you paying? can you ensure identities are not revealed on national tv?

[2019-02-12 15:58:30] cantrepeat : ^^ikr

[2019-02-12 15:58:46] cantrepeat : or that you're not the FBI lol

[2019-02-12 15:59:04] joshuajmyers : Is this planning on fucking things up even more for hobby users? "Look what a drone with no restrictions can do at a major airport" ?

[2019-02-12 15:59:29] mail451 : Seems like it.

[2019-02-12 15:59:34] pingspike : I can't see it getting any positive press...

[2019-02-12 15:59:40] joshuajmyers : Yeah, no thanks.

[2019-02-12 16:00:56] pross : Just build a hobby drone with no restrictions.

[2019-02-12 16:03:56] cantrepeat : @sciencetv All your prayers are answered. <http://dronenodes.com/how-to-build-a-drone/>

[2019-02-12 16:13:10] sciencetv : No identities would be revealed - we're just hoping to get help from someone who knows the technology better than us.

[2019-02-12 16:15:48] coldflake : @sciencetv Depends on the TV show but if you just want to demonstrate that it can be done, just use nld

[2019-02-12 16:16:40] coldflake : @sciencetv Why hesitate when you can use NLD mate? lol

[2019-02-12 16:19:05] pingspike : might not want to pay for it :open_mouth:

[2019-02-12 16:21:52] coldflake : Nld might be able to donate a key on quid pro quo basis lol

[2019-02-12 16:25:17] bin4ry : i have a hoodie :see_no_evil:

[2019-02-12 16:25:21] cantrepeat : send @coldflake nudes and get a free key!

[2019-02-12 16:25:39] coldflake : lol

[2019-02-12 16:25:48] coldflake : No no no just joking here lol

[2019-02-12 16:26:28] sciencetv : We're hoping to have someone involved that can give us context and really understands the tech - instead of just doing it ourselves.

[2019-02-12 16:26:29] coldflake : If you will mention the community and the OGs in your show, you have yourself a free key

[2019-02-12 16:26:39] coldflake : Ahh I see

[2019-02-12 16:28:31] bin4ry : @sciencetv what would be the scope of it? will this be a bad bad hackers show?

[2019-02-12 16:29:21] bin4ry : i am not uk based, but i think this question is important

[2019-02-12 16:29:50] bin4ry : i think none of the OGs is UK based tbh

[2019-02-12 16:32:04] bin4ry : still if you got legit questions and if you want to know what we think is bad in current implementations and what should be done better, then we are here and willing to talk. some of us already gave interviews on this points already

[2019-02-12 16:32:28] bin4ry : so .... your turn now

[2019-02-12 16:59:34] mail451 : Probably more details will be useful, what kind of restrinctions, what drone, etc...

[2019-02-12 21:36:15] quad808 : Hi All! I am from [fakenews.tv](http://fakenews.tv) and would like to have one of you show us how to unrestrict a DJI drone on live TV. We promise it will be good. (fake news) We will treat you right. (fake news) Full editorial control over any contribution made and final approval before broadcast and I bet you will find a participant. No one wants to be called out as "bad hacker drone guy who unlocks drones that shuts down airports"

[2019-02-12 22:02:12] chipmangini : [fakenews.tv](http://fakenews.tv) LOL! :+1:

[2019-02-12 22:02:31] mail451 : can I join as a random political commentator that won't shut up

[2019-02-12 23:08:27] cantrepeat : I like long walks on the beach!

[2019-02-12 23:48:30] joshuajmyers : @sciencetv I hope that alerted you like your post did others. I get it, you are new to Slack You're in the wrong place, looking for the wrong thing. How about you go back to your editor and ask if you can do a positive piece about drone hobbyists etc

[2019-02-12 23:49:48] chipmangini : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOBKZLLsfzk>

[2019-02-13 22:29:30] chipmangini : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=d-D9uegkUw8>

[2019-02-14 00:35:39] validat0r : so it's drone vs. drone from now on?

[2019-02-14 01:23:06] bobdole : what if the target drone is actually moving?

[2019-02-14 14:00:10] teslahv : !assistent

[2019-02-14 14:00:40] teslahv : !assistanr

[2019-02-14 14:00:55] teslahv : !asistant

[2019-02-14 14:01:05] teslahv : !assistant

[2019-02-14 17:07:16] quad808 : !spellcheck

[2019-02-14 17:07:59] quad808 : !huh?

[2019-02-14 17:08:07] quad808 : !whatisthatyousay

[2019-02-14 17:08:20] quad808 : !nevermind

[2019-02-14 17:18:12] cantrepeat : !thesearen'ttheassistantyouarelooking4

[2019-02-14 19:27:45] alex.valentine : Shouldnt it be DJeye. HAHA get it the i is an eye HAHA

[2019-02-14 20:26:45] cantrepeat : Sorry, Kevin, no.

[2019-02-15 08:48:42] teslahv : Are there any proofs for high altitude AGL flights with a Mavic beyond the 5 km-Video with the wraparound?

[2019-02-15 08:50:07] teslahv : That is not the 8 km ASL flights from Mt. Everest.

[2019-02-15 15:51:45] lolo780 : <https://i.imgur.com/nwjpCcj.png>

[2019-02-15 17:06:42] abdo054 : <https://gizmodo.com/rogue-drone-shuts-down-the-third-busiest-airport-in-the-1832644733?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=gizmodo_copy&utm_campaign=top>

[2019-02-15 17:13:46] cs2000 : DJI are releasing/have released an update to GEO too with wider restrictions around runways and takeoff/landing zones

[2019-02-15 17:43:32] kilrah : good, that was after i left :smile:

[2019-02-15 17:49:34] pross : Didnt leave a drone in hover did you?

[2019-02-15 18:04:39] bobdole : if i wanted to sell an expensive anti drone solution to an airport, i'd be doing this too

[2019-02-15 18:05:41] bobdole : vendor made an error and sent me a 4500mah 6S LIHV battery... its expensive.. what do i put it in?

[2019-02-15 18:13:01] quad808 : mavic on 6s = screamer!

[2019-02-15 18:16:03] bobdole : can the esc handle 6s? i could throw on 1900kv motors

[2019-02-15 19:27:12] aciid : does anyoone know what you call the permanent branding of a laptop

[2019-02-15 19:27:17] aciid : for antitheft purposes

[2019-02-15 19:27:36] aciid : where you use a hot-iron or something to imprint the laptop and then fill it with ink

[2019-02-15 19:27:47] aciid : i'm trying to find a guide for how to do that

[2019-02-15 22:39:09] chipmangini : @aciid <https://www.custombrandshop.com/products/custom-branding-iron-tip>

[2019-02-16 07:35:20] aciid : @chipmangini thanks, I'm looking into this since I want to store a laptop in the car. I want to make it look like it aint worth stealing

[2019-02-16 17:29:23] irischnpak : Have it lasered...

[2019-02-19 09:23:21] borillion_star : Anyone have pointers on sniffing 8 bit microcontroller logic without burning them out?

[2019-02-19 09:24:44] borillion_star :

[2019-02-19 17:29:20] teslahv : Halp my network lose what i do??

[2019-02-19 17:30:39] teslahv : Tried to file bug report of compass error when flying over huge piles of steel on construction site :joy:

[2019-02-19 18:04:53] lolo780 : With which drone? I've found the M2 immune to compass issues.

[2019-02-19 20:08:46] teslahv : Even when flying across huge rebar piles?

[2019-02-19 20:26:29] lolo780 : Yep. Bridge girders and metal structures. The compass seems to self calibrate as I've deliberately tried to screw it up by taking off from metal plates and it still flies like a laser.

[2019-02-19 20:28:03] lolo780 :

[2019-02-19 20:29:08] lolo780 : In 5000km of flying I have never had a navigation error.

[2019-02-19 21:10:58] teslahv : You have flown 5 Mm with an M2?

[2019-02-19 21:13:16] teslahv : You must have flown 15 km a day..?

[2019-02-19 21:16:24] teslahv : Do you operate professional manned air service with M2? :joy:

[2019-02-19 21:52:25] lolo780 : I do use them for work

[2019-02-19 21:52:56] lolo780 : None of the litchi flights are counted.

[2019-02-19 21:53:29] lolo780 : DJI pilot missions have flight records.

[2019-02-19 22:00:58] teslahv : What work does involve 15 km drone flying a day? If I'm being too indiscrete please let me know with "no comment" or such and I won't bother any longer.

[2019-02-19 22:01:15] lolo780 : Mapping, site surveying

[2019-02-19 22:01:24] teslahv : Aah ok ty

[2019-02-19 22:05:41] lolo780 :

[2019-02-19 22:05:58] lolo780 : 491 image stitch with drone deploy. P4p flying 90% overlap

[2019-02-19 22:06:55] lolo780 : Generates a 3d terrain model. Client is using it for promotional work as it's a mining museum.

[2019-02-19 22:11:40] lolo780 : While the p4p was flying automated, I flew an m2p manually to fill in some areas that aren't seen well from directly overhead and then gave their graphic designer all the data.

[2019-02-20 00:32:09] mgharrison : Test to see what voltage the uC is using and then use a logic analyzer to sniff the lines. An oscilloscope is perfect for checking the voltage and can give you clues as to the type of communication, baud rate etc. some have built in logic analyzers.

[2019-02-20 02:21:59] borillion_star : @lowellfoo780 that is awesome!!

[2019-02-23 09:52:11] mail451 : Anyone going 2 MWC?

[2019-02-24 05:31:35] bobdole : For the FAA UAS number display requirement. <https://www.makestickers.com/customize.aspx?tid=13565&pid=cb6def86-fdbc-4e5e-b96b-e117a79fb3c4> I find the "great vibes" font to be perfect. Very clear.. But Wtf does it say?

[2019-02-28 11:43:16] wickett06 : Lol, practically unreadable. What I did was just hand-printed some normal text labels onto some shipping label paper, and "laminated" it with shipping tape.

[2019-02-28 11:44:25] wickett06 : The result looks pretty clean

[2019-02-28 12:23:52] cantrepeat : Awesome, now I have legit numbers to put on all my drones. Thanks man!

[2019-02-28 12:24:40] validat0r : i guess these numbers are part of public record somewhere

[2019-02-28 12:29:43] fredmicrowave : My thought exactly. Now that the numbers have to be visible, so many innocents people are going to break rules :laughing:

[2019-02-28 12:34:22] validat0r : there are countries in the EU where it's the law that you have to have a fire resistant plaque with your name, address, phone on your uav

[2019-02-28 12:37:00] cantrepeat : wow

[2019-02-28 12:37:39] cantrepeat : MPP 4sale cheap. :smile:

[2019-02-28 13:00:08] validat0r : hmmkay .. the FAA uav reg number is bound to a person, not a specific uav, and it's not a N number

[2019-02-28 13:07:29] validat0r : and i bet there's no public db you could look up someone if you .. say .. find a drone in the wilderness

[2019-02-28 19:10:04] quad808 : I think I will just put some random ass numbers on my drone...or not

[2019-02-28 19:11:00] quad808 : or better yet....just put some sticky residue on the back of the drone where the "label" was applied that "came off" in flying...heh

[2019-02-28 19:13:02] lolo780 : How about 8675309

[2019-02-28 19:13:12] quad808 : JENNY

[2019-02-28 19:13:24] quad808 : I know her

[2019-02-28 19:13:38] lolo780 : Kids won't understand

[2019-02-28 19:13:53] quad808 : damn kids... GET OFF MY LAWN!!

[2019-02-28 19:14:23] quad808 : I am totally going to use that number...bwahahahaha

[2019-02-28 19:28:59] quad808 : Who said the # has to be big?

[2019-02-28 19:53:53] cantrepeat : I still haven't even reg'ed my MPP

[2019-02-28 20:24:01] lolo780 : Offline activate?

[2019-02-28 20:29:38] quad808 : rebel

[2019-02-28 20:30:25] lolo780 : Without a cause

[2019-02-28 21:32:19] bobdole : i think your music isn't even in the "oldies" section anymore.

[2019-02-28 21:32:25] bobdole : its been moved to classical

[2019-02-28 21:32:44] bobdole : (music store reference you other kids won't understand)

[2019-02-28 21:42:16] quad808 : Watch this guy....totally addictive to what he is doing <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnGWM0yDfpo>

[2019-03-06 02:57:16] borillion_star : Has anyone tried to tackle the movidius firmware/os on the mavic?

[2019-03-06 15:53:31] teslahv : What is it even

[2019-03-06 16:46:44] ender : Movidius = Vision based autonomy stuff on Mavic...

[2019-03-06 16:58:36] lolo780 : To make it actually useful?

[2019-03-06 17:29:28] borillion_star : I mean that thing is pretty capable, I have the neural compute stick and it's got a lot of potential to do much more.

[2019-03-06 17:30:14] lolo780 : I'd use it if it could not avoid the sun and reflections

[2019-03-06 17:30:38] lolo780 : Just stops and sits there

[2019-03-06 17:31:21] borillion_star : haven't had it do that yet :stuck_out_tongue:

[2019-03-06 18:02:25] fredmicrowave : And clouds too.

[2019-03-07 19:27:20] teslahv : <@USLACKBOT>

[2019-03-10 12:23:01] mail451 : Random q: what's a good backpack that can fit a spark case, 2x standard GoPro cases and a 15" laptop? Don't know much about backpacks but want something where I can put my drone case and it won't wobble around when I'm walking.

[2019-03-10 20:56:53] validat0r : I'd love to know if this is actually checked by the cops. And if so what are fines for not having one. In the law it's said to be up to 50k€ iirc

[2019-03-11 05:52:25] bin4ry : depends on the county

[2019-03-11 05:52:33] bin4ry : *country

[2019-03-12 15:23:38] validat0r : oh boy .. germany closes airspace for 737 max 8

[2019-03-12 16:14:09] cantrepeat : What I don't understand about the first crash, is they said it crashed because the pilots didn't turn off the auto pilot. How is it the auto pilot is programmed in such a manner as to allow the plane to flown into the ground when it's engaged?

[2019-03-12 16:21:18] lolo780 : The DJI Spark team did the flight control

[2019-03-12 16:21:51] validat0r : probably

[2019-03-12 16:24:36] lolo780 : My spark had a flyaway yesterday, broke the gimbal. Put a new one on and now have to calibrate it.

[2019-03-12 16:25:01] validat0r : there's the calib tool .. you've got it?

[2019-03-12 16:25:03] xela75 : @catalinaskirace According to expert, due to new release of flight controller which normally would have been transparent to the pilots...But not really eventually...

[2019-03-12 16:25:10] lolo780 : Is there a ready made tool besides the github one?

[2019-03-12 16:25:19] validat0r : and: come on .. flyaway? rly? what did you do?

[2019-03-12 16:26:20] lolo780 : Just did a test flight, 2km and back, hovering in parking lot, and it took off. Would have hit the building if I didn't CSC stop motors.

[2019-03-12 16:28:14] validat0r : straight up?

[2019-03-12 16:28:17] validat0r : just like that?

[2019-03-12 16:29:49] validat0r : did you have a look at the flight record? like the status msgs in the DAT file off of the AC?

[2019-03-12 16:30:58] lolo780 : Lost yaw control and started flying sideways.

[2019-03-12 16:32:02] validat0r : calibrated IMU/compass beforhand?

[2019-03-12 16:32:06] lolo780 : Yep

[2019-03-12 16:32:14] lolo780 : Well day before.

[2019-03-12 16:33:50] validat0r : have a look at the status msgs from the AC's DAT file .. sometimes you'll find the reason there

[2019-03-12 16:34:28] lolo780 : I put the core board in a new frame, put a new GPS module on, new cam

[2019-03-12 16:34:45] lolo780 : Hopefully that'll fix it. New IMU

[2019-03-12 16:34:54] lolo780 : Compass

[2019-03-12 16:40:47] fredmicrowave : I had a partial flyaway once, after changing boards and stuff between two MP´s. Midflight compass error, began to fly away. Then the error disappeared by itself, maybe due to AC rotation, and i could gain control again. Lucky day i suppose.

[2019-03-12 16:43:12] lolo780 : Is there any way to make the flight controller more tolerant of compass noise?

[2019-03-14 10:37:29] chipmangini : Build a "Phanvic" from a P3! <https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1955&v=oC6ckO70QxI>

[2019-03-14 16:18:37] bobdole : wish you could do this with a phantom 4

[2019-03-16 22:57:22] borillion_star : does anyone know how the arm hinges on the mavic work, like what's going on inside? This thing <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Front-Arm-Shaft-Repair-Part-Replacement-Mavic-Pro-Drone-Leg-Arm-Spare-Parts-Accessories-For-DJI/32892070209.html>

[2019-03-16 23:23:26] lolo780 : I've changed lots of broken ones for people. What were you wondering?

[2019-03-16 23:23:58] lolo780 : I could look in the trash and find some disintegrated ones.

[2019-03-16 23:44:23] fredmicrowave : The hinge principle is pretty clever. A very hard compression spring over a machined bump .

[2019-03-17 00:07:59] borillion_star : @lowellfoo780 just the general operating principle really. I would figure its def got a spring as Fred says below but what else is in there

[2019-03-17 00:09:55] borillion_star : so I am guessing the spring pushes the bump on the shaft into a groove at either end of the rotation and holds it in there?

[2019-03-17 05:01:22] borillion_star : @fredmicrowave Awesome now I understand!

[2019-03-19 01:33:45] borillion_star : Anybody have a mavic backpack they like I have 4 batteries, I want to take them all with me lol.

[2019-03-19 02:01:05] lolo780 : <https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&O=&Q=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwg73kBRDVARIsAF-kEH82Rfrt07IunOUAv41HAPP0UfVudeWauLNvYoxjHagWYwUa9K8nIuMaAkDvEALw_wcB&is=REG&lsft=BI%3A514&pcur=CAD&sku=1432970>

[2019-03-19 02:01:17] lolo780 : I use this one and put it in my pack

[2019-03-19 02:01:37] lolo780 : Ac, rc, 4 batteries

[2019-03-19 02:07:15] fredmicrowave : Being minimalist too, for MP with 3 batteries, i use the _lowepro novo mini aw_ shoulder bag. Just perfect. Easy to put in a small backpack when I need free hands for climbing etc.

[2019-03-19 02:07:37] fredmicrowave :

[2019-03-19 02:13:33] fredmicrowave : 4 batteries fit (1 in the Mavic) but 3 get better packed, the 4th have to go on top of the others 2. Plus a phone, e set of props, a small power bank ...

[2019-03-19 03:16:56] quad808 : This is a good one: <https://smile.amazon.com/Shoulder-Waterproof-Backpack-Platinum-Quadcopter/dp/B01MCZ26LK/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=Mavic+Pro+backpack&qid=1552965375&s=gateway&sr=8-6>

[2019-03-19 14:14:06] fredmicrowave : While we are at it, this is the MP2 in a Peli 1200 case ..

[2019-03-19 14:33:19] pross : I use a lowepro droneguard 250 its brilliant.

[2019-03-20 16:35:26] borillion_star : I ended up getting one of these and it slides into my laptop backpack perfectly. <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XG6NN8Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1>

[2019-03-20 16:48:39] cantrepeat : I need something like that but has a slot for a crystal sky and mount.

[2019-03-23 01:53:38] dgrauwickel : this works for me and has space for pad and smart controller

[2019-03-23 01:53:43] dgrauwickel : <https://i.imgur.com/gEUTzbJ.jpg>

[2019-03-23 01:54:44] dgrauwickel : BTW Big-lamp skins suc donkey ballz....... DO NOT BUY!

[2019-03-23 01:55:24] dgrauwickel : I ripped it off before I even put the legs on.... so fucking shitty

[2019-03-23 01:55:51] dgrauwickel : decal girl covers slightly less but is top notch~!

[2019-03-23 03:00:56] bobdole : wrapgrade is the best but $$ and ships from japan

[2019-03-23 03:02:30] bobdole : but.. that dystopia skin from decalgirl looks fantastic on a mavic pro platinum

[2019-03-23 03:02:47] bobdole : it works with the ginormous gaps

[2019-03-23 03:49:01] fredmicrowave : Shipping rates to EU from decalgirl is f. ridiculous, as expensive as the skin itself. wrapgrade is more expensive but has free shipping ... Some knows how to do business mmh...

[2019-03-29 09:58:23] mail451 : Anyone know which drone is this lol

[2019-03-29 11:05:04] lolo780 : Airbus A380

[2019-03-29 11:08:22] cantrepeat : MD 737 max 800 after a crash, too soon?

[2019-03-29 17:48:14] borillion_star : Non DJI drone question, Have any of you guys worked with aluminum before? how do you seal it after cutting it?

[2019-03-29 17:48:35] borillion_star : Is that a nuc strapped on there LOL?

[2019-03-29 17:50:59] lolo780 : Seal? Paint, anodize, powdercoat

[2019-03-30 00:48:36] borillion_star : Yea, I was thinking some kind of clear coat. I was told not to use a silicone based wax because it makes it impossible to paint later without issues. Dunno

[2019-03-30 00:59:01] fredmicrowave : Aluminium is better left unpainted. But If you really need to paint it, the right way is to use a two-components primary, (usually yellowish color) , then whatever paint you want. Just painting with some spray paint (after sanding) works for unimportant parts, but in any case, you have 10mn ( iirc) after sanding to paint it. It's the the time you have before the natural alumina layer develops.

[2019-03-30 00:59:52] borillion_star : ahh the oxide layer.

[2019-03-30 01:01:32] fredmicrowave : Yes- The one that protects aluminium from naturally "burning" by contact with oxygen...

[2019-03-30 01:02:46] borillion_star : ahh :smile: so I won't worry about it. I'm not flying that frame over the ocean or anything

[2019-03-30 19:07:59] borillion_star : Need to learn how to fly without GPS stabilization first with wind.

[2019-03-30 19:09:21] lolo780 : Fly a spark

[2019-03-30 23:00:08] kbgroning : Fly a fpvracer, then every DJI is peanuts

[2019-03-31 01:38:52] quad808 : You don't "fly" DJI, you "steer"

[2019-03-31 11:42:24] teslahv : Except when in manual mode..?

[2019-03-31 11:43:13] teslahv : But as with any other mode you're correct indeed!

[2019-04-03 03:11:51] hotelzululima : does anyone have a source orderable from the US that has the M2 enterprise dual at close to the list price of 2699(announced in december?)

[2019-04-03 21:02:46] ben_lin : You could just Aliexpress it

[2019-04-03 22:45:51] hotelzululima : not working out there.. the one place that has it at list has a broken web listing for same.. waiting for them to fix so I can order the dual..

[2019-04-06 13:20:50] zapf : Most of the places I know don't list the price of enterprise products publicly, but you could get a quote from Ralph at flyhighusa. He's usually responsive

[2019-04-06 18:33:32] teslahv : At [digitec.ch](http://digitec.ch) they appear to sell enterprise

[2019-04-09 13:56:41] chipmangini : <https://news.sky.com/story/google-wing-drone-deliveries-get-green-light-in-australia-11688488?fbclid=IwAR2fyR7Hsdq27O-A4qaSX7SC1DYkjEMXP1poakckzFWGnR_CqOQezcrCIcA>

[2019-04-09 13:57:02] chipmangini : Cool looking bird!

[2019-04-09 13:57:39] chipmangini : 120km/h too....

[2019-04-09 14:15:55] d95gas : Weirdest looking drone, but hey if it does the job then good luck to them. Items like this might help the general public understand "drones" a little better.

[2019-04-09 14:16:26] d95gas : They see the good they can do, and maybe stop us being the top of everyone's hit list

[2019-04-09 14:50:22] bobdole : i had a weird dream last night.. was flying a modded mavic air that was barely staying off the ground when a mavic pro shows up flying very close to the ground.. so naturally i try to pounce the mavic pro with the underside of my mavic air.. just then 2 trucks show up out front of my house and a hispanic woman comes out around to my backyard and asks about picking up the bulls i apparently was housing in my garage

[2019-04-09 14:51:57] bobdole : so i let her guys take my bulls (one of them was a calf) and they drive off.... i go back to flying my mavic air, but it is disconnected... where is it? just then i get a call from the lady saying she got pulled over for transporting the bulls and she ditched the truck which somehow had a papertrail back to my mavic air

[2019-04-09 15:01:47] d95gas : Had you been on the old Vino :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-04-09 15:15:19] anon034117 : Lol hell of a dream

[2019-04-09 15:29:26] hotelzululima : damn what you been smoking??

[2019-04-09 15:53:20] bobdole : i think i should probably start using a fume extractor

[2019-04-09 15:57:08] hotelzululima : cadmium fumes?

[2019-04-09 15:58:31] hotelzululima : given the above dreams paper trail wonder if I can find a vendor that will take bitcoin :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-04-09 16:43:06] teslahv : Note: Do not mess with Mavic Pro. xD

[2019-04-09 16:48:41] cantrepeat : lol, 420 every day I guess

[2019-04-09 17:11:03] hotelzululima : heh heh for some of us its vaping 420 concentrates every few minutes for chronic pain.. unfortunately at those dosage levels with 68%+THC content you no longer get intoxicated at all(u shaped dosage curves)

[2019-04-09 17:13:18] hotelzululima : thankfully its all legal nowadays :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-04-09 17:14:23] papareproductora : Hey come live to my country! Here, besides you can smoke every day, you get a payment from your government for being unemployed.

[2019-04-09 17:14:38] papareproductora : (?

[2019-04-09 17:21:13] cantrepeat : I'm pretty happy where I'm at, but thanks for the offer.

[2019-04-10 14:16:38] chipmangini : Some pretty amazing Drone programming right here! <https://binged.it/2P3R5fX>

[2019-04-10 14:31:20] teslahv : This is however, extremely old :grin: Still nice though^^

[2019-04-10 14:47:18] d95gas : Very interesting video, certainly makes you think about "What" is the future for us all :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-04-10 18:05:36] bobdole : its OK... would be better if he was wearing a cape, eyeliner and was flanked by lovely assistants

[2019-04-10 23:04:57] bobdole : imagine how much money you could save not having officer donut milking the overtime clock just cruising around. but then response time would suffer a lot. on the other hand, armed forces seem to be actively targeting quad racing scene for recruitment <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbVOdU2gp4M>

[2019-04-12 20:40:06] fredmicrowave : Not new, but hopefully still interesting ( or just funny )

[2019-04-12 21:19:05] cs2000 : Jeez! 81-138 miles line of sight is impressive

[2019-04-12 21:50:29] fredmicrowave : Well, it is mainly a question of altitude ...

[2019-04-12 21:51:54] cs2000 : Yeah of course, still impressively large signal power muct be required, i guess the semi truck trailer they show as the Ground Station is an indication of that however

[2019-04-12 21:52:17] cs2000 : oh, and of course their lack of any encryption is utterly stupid which was the reason behind the article

[2019-04-12 21:54:31] fredmicrowave : Yes, the harware is there ...But n line of sight, a few watts of power are usually enough for large distances. Specially at those high frequencies.

[2019-04-12 21:58:25] lolo780 : Yeah doesn't take much power, and likely higher altitudes

[2019-04-15 21:32:40] validat0r : "Only eighteen goats and eleven sheep." - "What's the matter?" - "The dragons are barely eating."

[2019-04-15 21:35:04] quad808 : "They eat whatever they want"

[2019-04-15 21:35:43] quad808 : Is it me or did that episode suck?

[2019-04-15 21:35:51] validat0r : not through yet

[2019-04-15 21:36:13] quad808 : let me know what you think

[2019-04-16 05:59:44] teslahv : NLD 1.9 downloadable already?

[2019-04-16 11:36:32] cs2000 : Not yet

[2019-04-16 11:41:38] validat0r : Not too bad as first episodes go ..you can't top a red wedding

[2019-04-16 11:48:56] rickw001 : :sob:

[2019-04-16 21:01:17] riddlariddla : cs2000 - when m2 support does land will it support bird side force fcc (eg: jkson5 script style)?

[2019-04-16 22:48:37] cs2000 : @riddlariddla personally, im not 100% sure of the features that will be included at this time. Hopefully very soon you can all find out for youself

[2019-04-16 22:49:16] cs2000 : **If** its not there at launch, im sure it will get added however, his method is cool!

[2019-04-16 23:55:11] cantrepeat : I'm pretty sure one of the best features of 1.9 is the ability to spit out winning lotto numbers!!!

[2019-04-16 23:55:14] cantrepeat : woot woot!!

[2019-04-17 08:16:27] capra_vecinului : @cs2000 So i'm thinking in the future here, and IF there will be no valid root for the Mavic 2 let's say until August or September 2019, wouldn't it make sense to save the bounty - or at least half of it - for the Mavic 3, which for sure will surface in 2020? :wink:

[2019-04-17 08:20:54] cs2000 : haha, trust me, it wont take that long

[2019-04-17 08:21:13] cs2000 : plus, for other reasons, no it doesnt make sense. But cant really get into that right now.

[2019-04-17 08:24:52] bin4ry : thing is not to get root but if you want to "burn" your method for the community. splitting the bounty to an even lower amount than currently won't help at all. take the current donated amount times 10 then you will have a market value of an exlucsive root for M2. So giving your methods up for this "small" amount of money is kinda supporting the community already, instead of getting paid by it :wink:

[2019-04-17 19:24:17] edisonbattery : It is now the 178th of April, It's obvious that the "Coming March 2019" was not just a slight miscalculation. It's goddamn embarrassing and cringey af that

[2019-04-17 19:25:00] edisonbattery : you still have that posted. Every day it makes NLD look stupid. FIX IT u lazyass

[2019-04-17 19:25:21] cs2000 : i _sincerely_ hope you're at least half joking

[2019-04-17 19:25:35] edisonbattery : I am, im being sarcastic.

[2019-04-17 19:25:59] edisonbattery : but it is cringey, and it only takes seconds to remove the text.

[2019-04-17 19:26:22] cs2000 : And then we will get a thousand support tickets asking for the new ETA

[2019-04-17 19:26:36] cs2000 : Which is "when its ready" BTW

[2019-04-17 19:27:24] cs2000 : And from my comment earlier today, trust me, it will **not** be long.

[2019-04-17 19:27:32] edisonbattery : So better to leave something even more baiting. Are you telling me that you don't get a butt load of people everyday asking that. It's just #weaksauce

[2019-04-17 19:28:45] lolo780 : I'm sure people have other things to do...

[2019-04-17 19:28:48] cs2000 : Yeah, sure we do. we tell them the same thing. When its ready. We can also tell the date and time and know were late. Trust me, were as unhappy about it as much as you all are.

[2019-04-17 19:29:03] lolo780 :

[2019-04-17 19:29:08] edisonbattery : "And from my comment earlier today, trust me, it will **not** be long." This has been said every time. TRUST ME....well, in all honesty --- it's just b.s. until its real

[2019-04-17 19:30:09] cs2000 : Meh, i have better things to do than argue with people who "just want it now damnit", il speak to you when its done. Unless you want a half baked build that will cause you to have a $1000 brick because we missed the deadline. YOur call

[2019-04-17 19:30:29] nocommie : ^ lol, send it to him

[2019-04-17 19:30:53] nocommie : some peoples children

[2019-04-17 19:31:37] edisonbattery : im not demanding anything im just suggesting that it looks foolish. unprofessional. it's no skin off my neck. jus sayin.

[2019-04-17 19:32:03] nocommie : Back in the day the ban hammer would be flyin!

[2019-04-17 19:32:13] edisonbattery : killbanz!!

[2019-04-17 19:32:43] edisonbattery : channel flud!! HA, good times

[2019-04-17 19:33:09] cs2000 : OK, just put yourself in our shoes. Yes, we missed a date that we wanted to hit, one that was widely publicised and even mentioned on video. We get shit for it. We change the date to March and due to some issues, we miss it. We get shit for it. We leave the date alone because were working on the bloody app. We get shit for it. If we were to change the date, we'd get shit for that too. Just sayin'

[2019-04-17 19:33:40] cs2000 : And as a reminder. <https://www.strawpoll.me/17800905/r> The NLD blog is a **development** blog/ A use case thats supported by the overwhelming majority of our voters

[2019-04-17 19:33:47] nocommie : shitty situation lol

[2019-04-17 19:35:19] cs2000 : And no ban hammers here. I **genuinely** understand your, and everyone else's frustration, the whole NLD team feels it too

[2019-04-17 19:40:22] edisonbattery : i trhink it starting more and more to look like Russian collusion.

[2019-04-17 19:41:04] cs2000 : Yeah, i agree. Its late because Putin started messing with us :joy:

[2019-04-17 19:44:04] lolo780 : Coldflake busy with all those Russian ladies

[2019-04-17 19:44:37] cs2000 : Precisely! Putin saw us coming and sent his Russian brides for rent onto the forum to distract us!

[2019-04-17 20:20:53] quad808 : No Russian collusion. Don't you watch anything other than CNN and MSNBC? lol

[2019-04-17 20:21:49] quad808 : Complain all you want about deadlines and how it looks "bad" for NLD....do you have stock in NLD? No? Then what do you care. The second it is released all the crying goes away

[2019-04-17 20:22:58] quad808 : The next complaint will be..."how come it isn't free99??"

[2019-04-17 20:24:55] quad808 : @cs2000 and I have heard it all. Don't like it, don't use it. Simple as that. Or go create your own app. Make millions. Go for it. Oh wait. You can't. In fact there is no other app around that does what NLD does. BTFO

[2019-04-17 21:12:18] samlevy1972 : Hey guys- I get the poll. I agree with @cs2000 and @quad808 I also get the frustration. If there is a chance to brick your product, it isn’t 48 hours away from release -which was stated a couple of weeks ago. Yes, it’s probably best not to promise any dates. And that was the lesson learned here. Trust of the product and developers is paramount and it’s always best for nothing to happen to impinge on that trust. But the NLD team gets a shit-ton of leeway in my book because they provide an amazing service. For fucks’ sake- they are infinitely better than fucking DJI who release buggy shit and never do jack squat on time. So be a bit more patient. Have a beer. Get laid. Smile. It’s all good. And @lowellfoo780 - genius pic. I couldn’t stop laughing.

[2019-04-17 21:26:15] coldflake :

[2019-04-17 21:27:32] cantrepeat : I burned a zero day once, getting locked out of my shareware version of Marvis Becon teaches typing sucked!!!

[2019-04-17 21:28:29] coldflake : as soon as I have fixed the last minor remaining issue on this post-it, it will then be nlD-day!

[2019-04-17 21:31:47] lolo780 : Shut up and take my money!

[2019-04-17 21:32:13] mrbracht : My money is ready!

[2019-04-17 21:41:11] quad808 : @coldflake Don't delete the code! Remember to SAVE...lol

[2019-04-17 23:20:59] nocommie : Uh oh, looks like some DJI employees are about to go missing!

[2019-04-17 23:26:50] nicholas.enslow : Any teaser shots lol

[2019-04-17 23:42:23] samlevy1972 :

[2019-04-18 00:12:33] nocommie :

[2019-04-18 00:12:41] nocommie : Blast from the past

[2019-04-18 00:13:30] edisonbattery : I've been on this board for about a year. And I have yet to see any real deep discussions on methods and techniques on the reverse engineering of dji drones. In many other forums, I have learned all kinds of tips and tricks. Example: ALL Phantom 2 vision+ due to a bug dji never fixed, do not haveworking live video feed. On phantom pilots gaucho showed how to solder a $9 uart board to the test contacts inside the wifi repeater and flash a new patch to bring them right back to life. This board is just a hotdog party comprised mostly of a bunch of muggles that need a front-end because a shell is too hard. I've never gotten a real response or insight to any posts (check my history.) example: I was remarking about a camera mod to the the pins that an ndir added on a phantom4 was using and not one of you ever responded in any real way. I've never gotten an answer to any real questions here. just a shit show stroking egos for a mod that may or may not come.

[2019-04-18 00:20:04] nocommie : Hey @edisonbattery have you happen to see the !wiki ?

[2019-04-18 00:20:54] cs2000 : Mate, if you dont like it, you know where the X button is

[2019-04-18 00:21:11] coldflake : @edisonbattery you are in the wrong channels

[2019-04-18 00:23:41] cs2000 : Theirs plenty of technical discussion happening if you know where to look, and ask some questions that show youve actually done some research yourself. Comments like the above arent exactly gonna make people wanna share _anything_ with you FWIW

[2019-04-18 00:25:10] quad808 : @edisonbattery what did you ever bring to the table?

[2019-04-18 00:25:24] quad808 : I'll wait.

[2019-04-18 00:25:42] nocommie : An empty plate, knife and fork lol

[2019-04-18 00:26:56] coldflake : nlD-day is going down withing a few hours! NLD 1.9 with M2 support and a full remake of the code :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-04-18 00:27:18] edisonbattery : Oh right, im not cool enough for the secret club. Im tired of all the high-brow posturing. theres like 3 or 4 guys that have all the brains here and they are reluctant to ever reply to shit without being vague or mysterious. and yes I know where the X is, but its not like im offended, just deeply dissapointed. If this is the bright center of the dji-reversers community, then all is lost. I was able to follow the breadcrumbs to the redherring removal of the nfz without 'bothering' any of the delicate genii.

[2019-04-18 00:28:03] quad808 : and of course NLD will make the source code available for people like @edisonbattery. He has brought so much to the discussion.

[2019-04-18 00:29:10] quad808 : Do you think we don't know that there are all kinds of DJI spies in here? Like anyone is going to discuss methods out in a general chat room. Think man, think.

[2019-04-18 00:29:15] edisonbattery : I have plenty to contribute if you snobs would ever get a real discussion going. IM OUT. have fun with your little front-end. jezzab is the real brains here. quad and cs are right up there. the rest of you can go F\

[2019-04-18 00:29:40] quad808 : I know absolutely NOTHING. hahahaha

[2019-04-18 00:29:52] quad808 : I just fake it really well.

[2019-04-18 00:30:59] cs2000 : Theirs nothing about being "cool" stop being a fucking child, honestly! 2-3 years ago, **nobody** here knew anything, this group has come from ground zero to an utter mountain of knowledge. The reverse engineering effort this group has performed would have cost millions, if not tens of millions if you wanted to pay someone to do it. We share in private channels with trusted people because their both DJI employees, along with people who would hapilly steal our work and profit on it. Its happened with DDD, DUMLDore, and Bin4ry's APK modder. Thats why we dont discuss all the secret sauce in ~general or any public channels and why respected members are always "vague" when they talk to anyone outside of the group.

[2019-04-18 00:31:30] nocommie : Bu bye

[2019-04-18 00:31:52] quad808 : buh and bye

[2019-04-18 00:32:48] mrbracht : In the words of Ken Heron. Haha

[2019-04-18 00:33:09] quad808 : LOVE that guy

[2019-04-18 00:33:19] mrbracht : Same here. He's very fun to watch

[2019-04-18 00:33:52] pross : Except all the slowmo stuff, thats getting a bit boring now.

[2019-04-18 00:34:17] quad808 : I still can't believe someone gave him an I2

[2019-04-18 00:34:30] mrbracht : He's got a great fan base, that's for sure.

[2019-04-18 00:34:52] nocommie : So will all flavors of M2 be supported? (Pro, zoom, Enterprise, dual)

[2019-04-18 00:35:15] quad808 : did you ever scroll to the end of the Show More notes?

[2019-04-18 00:35:21] nocommie : I have a work M2 so no inclined to have one myself. But a dual...

[2019-04-18 00:37:08] cs2000 : Coldflake would be the man to answer that one, but he may want to keep it a surprise until 1.9 (finally) drops

[2019-04-18 00:39:14] mrbracht : @quad808 are you talking about on Ken's videos?

[2019-04-18 00:39:44] quad808 : yep

[2019-04-18 00:39:56] mrbracht : I haven't until now. What's that all about? The scrollers?

[2019-04-18 00:40:04] quad808 : hahahaha...yep

[2019-04-18 00:40:24] mrbracht : You ever watch Dustin Dunnill?

[2019-04-18 00:40:32] mrbracht : He's got some good content as well

[2019-04-18 00:41:21] quad808 : yep, my brother from Hawaii. Well...not by brother, brother...hahaha

[2019-04-18 00:41:52] mrbracht : Haha, nice!

[2019-04-18 00:49:20] coldflake : @nocommie yes

[2019-04-18 01:13:08] cantrepeat : 4:17 it's 3 days short of 4:20, just so you know

[2019-04-18 09:34:56] xela75 : So it means that for M2, only NLD hack will be released ? No Github or stuff like that ?

[2019-04-22 13:23:52] chipmangini : Imagine doing this with drones! <https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=191&v=5ukc1U9hYQ4>

[2019-04-22 13:41:59] rickw001 : that shit is crazy :grinning:

[2019-04-22 18:50:53] bobdole : that shit is what the sky is going to look like in a few years on a typical day

[2019-04-22 23:03:32] cantrepeat : April 22 and I can't find a single cookie in the house. I know I went shopping on the 19th!!!

[2019-04-23 19:32:44] hotelzululima : heh heh my Hero is made from vacuum molded thick polycarbonate/lexan held together by zip ties.. it will take a 400ft freefall normally without damage to the body/ props may suffer but I use the bendy plastic kind to reduce prop breakage during combat..

[2019-04-23 19:34:25] hotelzululima : heh heh bring on your mavic :slightly_smiling_face:.. btw I believe drone combat is the answer to unlawful drones in airport’s airspace.. fly directly into the offender for a mid air collision bringing both craft to the ground quick and easy..

[2019-04-23 19:40:17] fredmicrowave : Nasa is planning to send a [coaxial] quadcopter to Titan, one of Saturn's moons: <http://dragonfly.jhuapl.edu/What-Is-Dragonfly/>

[2019-04-23 19:42:54] fredmicrowave : :smile: It looks like a Mavic

[2019-04-24 12:22:21] samlevy1972 : It's still a "concept."

[2019-04-24 12:22:39] samlevy1972 : NASA isn't "planning" anything yet.

[2019-04-24 17:11:27] bobdole : does the mavic 2 obstacle avoidance think the sun is much closer than it is?

[2019-04-24 19:21:08] lolo780 : Yes

[2019-04-24 19:21:40] lolo780 : I wonder if ND filters would help.

[2019-04-26 16:52:25] fredmicrowave : @chipmangini

[2019-04-26 17:50:47] bobdole : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x93-wmo74yY>

[2019-04-29 10:01:54] kilrah : New PC :stuck_out_tongue:

[2019-04-29 10:22:42] cs2000 : 2MB of RAM, more than youll ever need right there!

[2019-04-29 10:29:25] kilrah : nobody needs more than 640k anyway - rest is ramdisk obviously :stuck_out_tongue:

[2019-04-29 10:30:27] kilrah : got a 512MB CF card as harddrive though, more than a PC XT ever saw lol

[2019-04-29 10:35:04] cs2000 : "compact" flash. Always makes me chuckle a little considering its size to other flash storage devices

[2019-04-29 10:35:43] kilrah : lol, well it was compact at the time :smile:

[2019-04-29 10:37:12] kilrah : given "normal" flash cards were full size PCMCIA before that

[2019-04-29 10:37:27] cs2000 : :joy: true i guess!

[2019-04-29 10:39:08] kilrah :

[2019-04-29 10:50:19] cs2000 : wow! Now stick a micro SD card onto of that with 1000x the capacity

[2019-04-29 11:00:04] kilrah : yup :stuck_out_tongue:

[2019-04-29 13:24:32] nopcode : have there been any know hardware revisions on the mavic 2 pro? meaning could there be a disadvantage in buying old stock?

[2019-04-29 13:25:34] nopcode : like with the straight vs twisted motor cables on the M1

[2019-04-29 14:06:46] versuher : I was unfortunate (?) to receive the RC1B version (as opposed to widespread RC1A) of the remote controller with my M2Pro. RC1B seems to communicate with the computer via virtual COM port only, so there’s no way to get FTP/ADB connection with the remote.

[2019-04-29 14:29:19] nopcode : @versuher is that a newer version then?

[2019-04-29 14:31:19] versuher : seems to be that way – but I am really not keeping track of any recent developments, sorry

[2019-04-29 14:56:09] kilrah : probably does but only after being enabled by a command or something...

[2019-04-29 16:23:19] d95gas :

[2019-04-29 16:23:28] d95gas : @kilrah Amstrad PPC640d with 10Mb full size hard drive, one of the first "Luggables" :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-04-29 16:24:11] d95gas : and its still in working order, with original Amstrad case and manuals, even a box load of WFW3.11

[2019-04-29 16:24:12] kilrah : woot

[2019-04-29 16:24:36] d95gas : mental when you think what we used to work with

[2019-04-29 16:29:37] kilrah : yep :smile:

[2019-04-29 18:00:29] cantrepeat : 8088 with dual 5 inch floppies and ascii batch menu ftw!!

[2019-04-29 18:18:35] d95gas : gonna email Alan Sugar see if he wants a trip down memory lane :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-04-29 19:41:45] jakwnd : im old enough to know dial up sounds but not old enough to have ever seen those!

[2019-04-29 19:52:28] quad808 : When you start yelling "GET OFF MY LAWN" you are old enough

[2019-04-29 20:07:32] kilrah : lol

[2019-04-29 20:07:52] kilrah : i like old computers

[2019-04-29 20:08:05] kilrah : just bought a bunch

[2019-04-29 20:09:03] kilrah : that 200lx from ebay/USA, then a 100lx came up locally for very cheap so i got that too, figured it'd give me spare parts in case... plus a C64, and a sharp PC-1350

[2019-04-29 20:09:18] kilrah : also have a tandy 102 and sharp pc-1500 with printer

[2019-04-29 20:09:32] kilrah : and psion series 5

[2019-04-29 20:10:32] kilrah : my most obscure one is this though

[2019-04-29 20:10:50] kilrah :

[2019-04-29 20:12:06] kilrah : designed by a school in the region to be built by apprentices and sold to other schools of the area for teaching

[2019-04-29 21:36:43] bobdole : i got some isa modems

[2019-04-29 21:37:12] bobdole : i think they're made in USA

[2019-04-29 21:38:54] bobdole : there was a quick minute when that stuff was worth something to people who didn't want to upgrade infrastructure

[2019-04-29 22:57:46] lolo780 : I still use a palm pilot

[2019-04-29 22:58:24] lolo780 : Interfaces with hardware from the 80s/90s.

[2019-04-29 23:08:47] cantrepeat : I think I still have my IIIc around here some where.

[2019-04-30 15:16:15] estherkitties : My wifi-deauther now feels complete after replacing the stock 2.4Ghz antenna with what seems to be a perfect coincidence -- a re-purposed mavic rc antenna.

[2019-04-30 21:59:04] kilrah : i still have my palm m100

[2019-04-30 21:59:30] kilrah : received it back then when it was current as "payment" for building someone a PC :smile:

[2019-05-01 06:03:58] estherkitties : it's to prove to clients and potential clients that their current wifi network is susceptible to deauthentication attacks, and that they should take the time and money to upgrade or otherwise address the issue, whether or not they choose my company to do it. if you use wpa2 on a 2.4ghz network -- you too.

[2019-05-01 15:51:23] teslahv : I use WPA2 on 2.4 GHz network, all but over iPhone tethering. I might search for deauthentication attack some time.

[2019-05-01 21:05:21] hamkypanky : <https://earther.gizmodo.com/incredible-drone-footage-shows-a-tornado-tearing-across-1834441706>

[2019-05-01 21:06:30] lolo780 : Wonder what it was filmed with

[2019-05-02 10:34:39] estherkitties : you can pick up a pair for $12 if you dont need the OLED display. i've been really surprised at just how many devices are susceptible. And 5Ghz wifi isn't safe either, it's just that there aren't SoC devices being produced en mass like an ESP8266. If you wanted to put together a similar gadget for 5Ghz it could easily be built, albeit a l little bit bulkier.

[2019-05-02 10:45:34] estherkitties : p.s. your iPhone tethering is vulnerable.

[2019-05-02 12:23:05] papareproductora : Hi. The whole wpa2 protocol is vulnerable. To which one do you suggest to upgrade?

[2019-05-02 12:41:04] estherkitties : most mfgs still haven't incremented to 802.11w. Either they are too old or the vendors haven't put enough pressure on them to support. You could enable management frame protection on the ap if its robust (ci$co) enuff (most likely not). ITS A REAL PROBLEM. And when the signal strength is randomly modulated-- it's much harder to locate without expensive tools. The attack is using the actual protocol correctly, just maliciously. Much different than a jammer which is just noise and interference and highly illegal. not to say that this isnt illegal, but LE would look at that like speeding.

[2019-05-03 17:00:53] nopcode : i just realized the dji restrictions aren't half as bad as i thought

[2019-05-03 17:01:16] nopcode : with most of the stuff i care about being in yellow zones (those dont phone home when 'unlocked' right?) or 150m limited which is not an issue for me either

[2019-05-03 17:02:11] nopcode : so even if NLD developement should hit a roadblock (i hope it won't!) i could get a M2 now and fly with stock app and fw and be happy

[2019-05-03 17:04:02] lolo780 : M2 flies really stable. Navigation system is awesome.

[2019-05-03 17:04:15] nopcode : @lowellfoo780 great to hear

[2019-05-03 17:04:23] nopcode : maybe i'll pull the trigger after this beer :smile:

[2019-05-03 17:04:42] lolo780 : Flying off steel plates, my stupid p4p gets a permanent compass error. M2P doesn't even care.

[2019-05-03 17:05:06] nopcode : the m2 has one normal compass and uses the cameras for orientation as well

[2019-05-03 17:05:11] lolo780 : The M2P seems to adapt and correct the heading.

[2019-05-03 17:05:27] nopcode : it uses the front / side / back cameras i think and watches the optical flow of the horizon

[2019-05-03 17:05:31] lolo780 : Yeah. Smarter.

[2019-05-03 17:05:52] nopcode : yeah i guess it's better than a second compass which could be hit by the same anomaly as the first one

[2019-05-03 17:05:59] nopcode : atleast in daylight.

[2019-05-03 17:08:35] kilrah : exact, should be much more reliable

[2019-05-03 17:08:42] kilrah : MA already had that

[2019-05-03 17:09:21] nopcode : the stuff people are whining about w.r.t. to the M2 Pro camera are all video-related right?

[2019-05-03 17:09:36] nopcode : needing to crop etc? asking cause i only take stills.

[2019-05-03 17:36:16] teslahv : For me 150 m would be too restrictive. For manual mode b00ns like me even 200 m might be pretty "thin" :see_no_evil:.

[2019-05-03 18:45:06] nopcode : i just bought a "dji mavic 2 pro + fly more kit" on ebay for 133 euros with paypal

[2019-05-03 18:45:11] nopcode : wondering what's gonna happen ^^

[2019-05-03 18:45:22] nopcode : (that's one tenth of the retail price)

[2019-05-03 18:45:56] validat0r : You gonna get a keychain .. That's what's gonna happen.

[2019-05-03 18:46:07] pross : Or a house brick

[2019-05-03 18:46:09] nopcode : yeah then i'll get my money back from paypal

[2019-05-03 18:46:21] nopcode : so what's the benefit for the seller

[2019-05-03 18:47:11] validat0r : It's history repeating .. Ordering expensive keychains is so 2018

[2019-05-03 18:48:33] nopcode : i figured it might be a fraud attempt but it said i had paypal buyer protection so **shrug**

[2019-05-03 18:57:08] lolo780 : Yeah, video related.

[2019-05-03 18:57:37] lolo780 : Barrel distortion because of the small camera package. Do you shoot raw?

[2019-05-03 18:58:03] nopcode : yeah

[2019-05-03 18:58:22] nopcode : lightroom has camera profiles and corrects that with a click

[2019-05-03 18:58:28] nopcode : atleast it has a profile for the m1

[2019-05-03 19:00:48] lolo780 : Yep, not really an issue

[2019-05-03 19:01:50] nopcode : shouldn't paypal have contact/account details of any user?

[2019-05-03 19:03:44] kilrah : sure, but the recollection process is probably long and complex so the guys assume unless the amounts go into multiple thousands they'll get away with it

[2019-05-03 19:04:14] nopcode : oh. i was just about to ask why they didnt put at a 1000 bucks. people would still bite and the profit would be higher. but that explains...

[2019-05-03 19:04:16] kilrah : they probably use fake addresses etc...

[2019-05-03 19:05:43] nopcode : well, worth a shot. if it's true what you say it'd be the first time i'm being conned... kinda exciting. but what a shitty way to make a living :thinking_face:

[2019-05-03 19:06:17] nopcode : (actually, probably not worth a shot)

[2019-05-03 19:06:25] nopcode : maybe i should still order the actual one from amazon ^^

[2019-05-03 19:07:06] nopcode : for those who have m1 and m2p, is the camera upgrade worth it for stills? in terms of resolution and lowlight performance?

[2019-05-03 19:07:24] nopcode : high iso also means the FPV view will actually show something other than black at night?

[2019-05-03 19:14:24] kilrah : i have m1 and m2z, so can't say much

[2019-05-03 19:17:18] kilrah : i like the super-res on the m2z for landscapes

[2019-05-03 19:18:13] nopcode : do you get individual raws + a stitched jpeg?

[2019-05-03 19:22:35] kilrah : yep

[2019-05-03 19:22:44] kilrah : i always stitch the raws myself of course

[2019-05-03 19:23:13] nopcode : with LR?

[2019-05-03 19:23:20] nopcode : can it do AEB for HDR?

[2019-05-03 19:23:29] kilrah : yeah LR

[2019-05-03 19:23:47] pross : I’m thinking of getting a m2p gimbal for my zoom if one comes up for a good price just for photos

[2019-05-03 19:23:55] nopcode : does the super-res cover the same field of view as when fully zoomed out? or more?

[2019-05-03 19:23:58] kilrah : never tried HDR, I tend to alwas do single raw HDR, too boring to merge lol

[2019-05-03 19:23:58] lolo780 : Buy the pro plus a zoom camera only

[2019-05-03 19:24:02] kilrah : same

[2019-05-03 19:24:25] nopcode : btw does the go4 panorama function do AEB?

[2019-05-03 19:24:37] lolo780 : Go4 pano is basic

[2019-05-03 19:24:42] nopcode : and is bracketing still limited to +- 0.7EV steps?

[2019-05-03 19:25:10] nopcode : all i want is a full coverage raw +2 0 -2 bracketed pano...

[2019-05-03 19:25:21] nopcode : i wonder why they have such trouble implementing something like this

[2019-05-03 19:26:09] lolo780 : <https://kuula.co/post/7PBCq>

[2019-05-03 19:26:15] lolo780 : Straight off the app

[2019-05-03 19:26:55] nopcode : not bad

[2019-05-03 19:26:59] nopcode : but it does keep the raws?

[2019-05-03 19:27:26] lolo780 : Never looked actually. I mainly use the app.

[2019-05-03 19:27:52] pross : Yea there is an option to keep the unstitched files I’m sure there is

[2019-05-03 19:28:27] nopcode : great

[2019-05-03 19:28:31] lolo780 : <https://kuula.co/post/7PWwq>

[2019-05-03 19:29:23] nopcode : nice

[2019-05-03 19:29:50] nopcode : it seems they got rid of the ugly purple flares with the sun in the frame / just off the frame that was plaguing the m1?

[2019-05-03 19:30:02] lolo780 : <https://kuula.co/post/7PW2l>

[2019-05-03 19:30:10] lolo780 : This is a platinum

[2019-05-03 19:30:17] lolo780 : Stuthibg error.

[2019-05-03 19:30:22] lolo780 : Stitching

[2019-05-03 19:30:37] nopcode : still awesome

[2019-05-03 19:30:39] nopcode : altitude? roughly?

[2019-05-03 19:32:02] lolo780 : 5000m

[2019-05-03 19:32:07] nopcode : holy shit

[2019-05-03 19:32:25] nopcode : yeah thats a nope for me :smile:

[2019-05-03 19:32:36] nopcode : i dont go beyond 100m usually

[2019-05-03 19:32:46] quad808 : @lowellfoo780 wow. Really nice

[2019-05-03 19:33:15] kilrah : <https://kuula.co/post/7kP84>

[2019-05-03 19:33:22] lolo780 : <https://kuula.co/post/7P63B>

[2019-05-03 19:33:28] nopcode : so that involves sport+ mode and a close call with battery level when coming down?

[2019-05-03 19:33:59] nopcode : kilrah how high was that?

[2019-05-03 19:34:05] quad808 : @lowellfoo780 M2 zoom or Pro? Platinum looks great too, except for the error

[2019-05-03 19:34:21] kilrah : <https://kuula.co/post/7kP87>

[2019-05-03 19:34:36] kilrah : not high, maybe 100m?

[2019-05-03 19:35:08] nopcode : nice

[2019-05-03 19:35:48] nopcode : maybe i shouldnt sell my m1 if i get a m2

[2019-05-03 19:35:55] nopcode : might still take it skiing or something where i might lose it

[2019-05-03 19:36:26] kilrah : <https://kuula.co/post/7kP85>

[2019-05-03 19:36:33] lolo780 : <https://kuula.co/post/7P63B>

[2019-05-03 19:37:05] kilrah : <https://kuula.co/post/7kP8h>

[2019-05-03 19:37:09] kilrah : last 2 are mavic air

[2019-05-03 19:38:02] nopcode : i was thinking of maybe getting an air... how does it compare to the m1?

[2019-05-03 19:38:11] nopcode : camera quality similar, range much shorter?

[2019-05-03 19:38:34] lolo780 : Nice

[2019-05-03 19:39:22] pross : I had an air before the zoom .. low flight time .. embarrassingly noisy lol

[2019-05-03 19:39:23] kilrah : air cam is a bit better but has quirks, mine was never really sharp

[2019-05-03 19:39:25] lolo780 : Loud, shorter range. Shorter battery life. Better video.

[2019-05-03 19:39:33] kilrah : and range / connection quality was shit

[2019-05-03 19:39:37] kilrah : got rid of it quickly

[2019-05-03 19:39:48] quad808 : nice pics guys

[2019-05-03 19:39:49] pross : If you are not in the us range is crap

[2019-05-03 19:39:53] lolo780 : Air is unloved by hackers

[2019-05-03 19:40:05] kilrah : replaced with anafi for the <500gr stuff (only reason i had gotten an air in the first place)

[2019-05-03 19:40:20] nopcode : where does <> 500g make a difference?

[2019-05-03 19:40:34] kilrah : in my country <500gr is "unregulated"

[2019-05-03 19:40:39] nopcode : oh cool

[2019-05-03 19:41:17] kilrah : aka "don't do stupid shit but we can't get after you just for the fact of flying, only if you actually cause an incident"

[2019-05-03 19:41:44] nopcode : here i think < 250g is unregulated so not even a spark makes the cut

[2019-05-03 19:41:48] kilrah : anafi does better pics than air

[2019-05-03 19:41:59] kilrah : but link is another level of shitty :smile:

[2019-05-03 19:42:05] lolo780 : Spark can be 249g with cam

[2019-05-03 19:42:14] nopcode : damn. i'm so used to occusync i think i would hate having a choppy feed

[2019-05-03 19:42:23] nopcode : @lowellfoo780 by removing cells..?

[2019-05-03 19:42:47] lolo780 : Cutting frame and removing bits

[2019-05-03 19:42:51] quad808 : Here is one from my Anafi: <https://kuula.co/post/7Yctf>

[2019-05-03 19:42:53] nopcode : uhm

[2019-05-03 19:42:54] kilrah : yeah hard to go to anything after ocusync

[2019-05-03 19:43:18] lolo780 : P4p annoys me with bad signal and slow transfer speeds

[2019-05-03 19:43:23] nopcode : can you hand-launch and hand land (grabbing and throttle down) the M2 the same as M1? with landing protection off?

[2019-05-03 19:43:29] kilrah : sure

[2019-05-03 19:43:34] lolo780 : M2P regularity gets 4500k/s

[2019-05-03 19:43:46] lolo780 : M2 hand catches better

[2019-05-03 19:44:08] nopcode : but if land prot is one it will still climb to evade if you try to grab it?

[2019-05-03 19:44:11] nopcode : "is on"

[2019-05-03 19:44:23] lolo780 : No

[2019-05-03 19:44:36] lolo780 : They programmed it to recognize hand catch

[2019-05-03 19:44:42] nopcode : wow

[2019-05-03 19:44:58] kilrah : never tried landing protection on, always hated it anyway

[2019-05-03 19:45:10] lolo780 : True

[2019-05-03 19:52:43] fredmicrowave : Mine tries to escape all the time. You just have to grab it quickly enough, but not a problem.

[2019-05-03 19:54:35] fredmicrowave : Very similar to M1

[2019-05-03 19:57:07] fredmicrowave : I kind o got used to landing protection, you don´t have to worry about descent speed. Last time i disabled it i forgot I did, and slammed it onto the ground :smile:

[2019-05-03 19:57:59] nopcode : if i land on the ground i always use auto-land

[2019-05-03 19:58:06] nopcode : i figure it's better to tell the AC your intention

[2019-05-03 19:58:10] nopcode : than having it guess

[2019-05-03 20:08:05] nopcode : what happens if you fly a m2 into a warning zone / enhanced warning zone with stock software?

[2019-05-03 20:08:14] nopcode : i know the red zones you just cant enter right

[2019-05-03 20:08:16] nopcode : ?

[2019-05-03 20:08:50] nopcode : will it not enter those warning zones unless you confirm / unlock them?

[2019-05-03 20:16:38] fredmicrowave : Never tried to enter a zone flying, can't tell you...

[2019-05-03 20:18:00] fredmicrowave : M1 would stop untill you checked the warning popup if iirc , whis is a pita if you are trying to make video,

[2019-05-03 20:18:26] fredmicrowave : As it will do it every time it enters the zone...

[2019-05-03 20:18:34] nopcode : argh...

[2019-05-03 20:19:07] fredmicrowave : Well, that is with stock firmware.

[2019-05-03 20:19:48] nopcode : sure. but if i get mine i'll wait till NLD has sorted out the "extra" nfz zones that seem to be hardcoded before i apply it

[2019-05-03 20:20:02] nopcode : so i might fly stock at first

[2019-05-03 20:20:26] fredmicrowave : But are you in a hardcoded zone ?

[2019-05-03 20:20:32] nopcode : doubt it

[2019-05-03 20:20:59] fredmicrowave : So you could go for it. It works perfectly for me.

[2019-05-03 20:21:05] nopcode : i'm close to an extraterritorial US military airport so ... maybe?

[2019-05-03 20:22:07] nopcode : (not planning to fly there)

[2019-05-03 20:50:36] lolo780 : Extraterrestrial

[2019-05-03 20:50:41] lolo780 : Is how I read that

[2019-05-03 21:03:40] kilrah : lol

[2019-05-03 21:29:46] pross : Me too actually lol

[2019-05-03 22:47:29] teslahv : Guys there's videos on youtube that show Mavic in sport+ doing a looping or flip. How can it happen in GPS and Sport+ mode with all kinds of stabilization? Or does Sport+ mode pitch the parameters to inherent instability of the bird?

[2019-05-03 22:51:23] lolo780 : Let's see

[2019-05-03 22:53:57] teslahv : <https://youtu.be/KBCALByP9ps>

[2019-05-03 22:56:46] teslahv : <https://youtu.be/XISmXBvw1F0>

[2019-05-03 22:58:54] nopcode : jeez guys got money to blow

[2019-05-03 22:59:26] teslahv : <https://youtu.be/Pv1xQg3vvJc>

[2019-05-03 22:59:41] teslahv : This one's manual for certain.

[2019-05-03 23:00:12] teslahv : Impressive nonetheless:exclamation:

[2019-05-03 23:02:12] teslahv : (And greatest dji fanboi ever xD)

[2019-05-03 23:03:42] teslahv : His bird's flips they look incredibly efficient :heart_eyes:

[2019-05-04 02:03:56] quad808 : I call fake

[2019-05-04 02:04:17] quad808 : never shows him controlling the drone. BS

[2019-05-04 05:02:07] teslahv : So what then is it?

[2019-05-04 05:29:44] lolo780 : That looks fake to me

[2019-05-04 05:30:02] lolo780 : Guys put fpv parts in mavic shells

[2019-05-04 05:44:33] teslahv : I know there are such videos. But I claim that you can clearly distingish them by VLOS look, sound, and camera (FPV) feed look. So especially in the last video - backlight behaves like in a Mavic? - sounds like a Mavic? Think I'm going to ask the modders in MP forum as to whether they have managed to (accidentally) flip their birds.

[2019-05-04 05:45:11] teslahv : Or are we that far with video editing?

[2019-05-04 09:32:09] kilrah : all just in manual mode.

[2019-05-04 09:45:28] teslahv : Ok. Can't wait until that winter comeback is over and weather becomes stable again. Really don't like to test my luck and test it in these conditions.

[2019-05-04 09:46:36] teslahv : Will have tons over tons of problems even without wind. :see_no_evil::joy:

[2019-05-04 17:27:57] quad808 : I challange anyone to flip a mavic that fast in manual mode. Thats why it's fake. It's a pre-programmed flip.

[2019-05-04 17:28:21] quad808 : as in toy drones

[2019-05-04 18:20:09] fredmicrowave : It may be just adjusted parameters. You begin the flip, and the mavic recovers and hovers. At least at two of the flips, the guy dones't even look at the drone when it recovers. Unless you understand what he says, and as there is no real description on the video, i don't think anyone can claim to be a "fake".

[2019-05-04 18:22:38] lolo780 : I will have to try that

[2019-05-04 18:25:51] fredmicrowave : I think he also shows to be in GPS mode at the beginning...That´s a lot of assistance .

[2019-05-04 19:38:50] quad808 : FAKE

[2019-05-04 19:40:53] quad808 : If @lowellfoo780 can do it, I will admit that it's real.

[2019-05-04 19:43:46] kilrah : i did fly the m1 in manual a little bit and it was ridiculously sensitive so I would believe it

[2019-05-04 19:44:04] kilrah : probably since it was never designed to be used in that mode nobody cared about the control scaling there

[2019-05-04 20:13:11] lolo780 : Manual mode gyro rate is adjustable.

[2019-05-04 20:31:58] teslahv : Did you try in the simulator too?

[2019-05-04 22:28:34] rickw001 : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjma_7A6y-E>

[2019-05-04 22:29:55] teslahv : Watched earlier this year, after some min figured out it was fake.

[2019-05-04 22:30:53] teslahv : Supposed to be a foolsday's joke if I remember correctly.

[2019-05-04 22:31:21] rickw001 : bunch of vids on youtube doing it?

[2019-05-04 22:35:54] rickw001 : let's go Lolo780 :+1:

[2019-05-04 22:56:16] kilrah : no

[2019-05-05 05:22:55] kbgroning : My spark can do that, I do it all the time :ghost:

[2019-05-05 08:58:53] nopcode : i dont get why you'd use a 1000 dollar drone to do stunts that a 300 dollar one would be much better at

[2019-05-05 09:02:57] teslahv : Cuz they can :grinning:

[2019-05-05 09:06:05] kbgroning : Mha, it’s just the superglued shell of an crashed spark with the gits of a racequad in it, you have to see those faces when you fly it through some gates on a track :joy::joy::joy:

[2019-05-05 09:19:28] validat0r : Or can they? :thinking_face:

[2019-05-05 14:55:41] versuher : I didn’t really play much with the 360 panos – but what is the optimal way to shoot panos with that high dynamic range, with direct view of the sun on some shots and shaded downward view on the others? Using RAW and just fixing the exposure as in the sunlit shots doesn’t seem to cut it – the rest of the images turn up mostly underexposed in my attempts

[2019-05-06 06:39:53] nopcode : just wondering are there actually gps "jammers" that when placed next to adrone can make it think it's somewhere else?

[2019-05-06 06:40:24] nopcode : i mean i know the technology exists but for benchtop use like this (nfz removal etc), is it easy to build yourself with an SDR or something?

[2019-05-06 06:40:44] nopcode : for validating NFZ removal patches etc

[2019-05-06 06:48:32] lolo780 : Jamming wouldn't be difficult. Spoofing another position via RF sounds tricky.

[2019-05-06 06:50:24] lolo780 : <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoofing_attack>

[2019-05-06 06:50:35] lolo780 : Interesting. Probably not easy to do.

[2019-05-06 07:41:01] bin4ry : i build a gps spoofer with my hackrf. problem is that you need a good power level (not jamming!) and on your phone you need to deactivate the gps enhancement features like wifi position cell id etc. if you rely on your gps sensor only it works

[2019-05-06 07:43:29] nopcode : @bin4ry so does it work on a M2?

[2019-05-06 07:43:51] nopcode : when you're right next to it i mean

[2019-05-06 09:09:18] bin4ry : will test on m2 soon on m1 no problem so i wouldn’t know why it shouldn’t work on the m2 too

[2019-05-06 11:04:58] nopcode : ok cool. found the hardcoded nfz stuff yet?

[2019-05-06 16:03:59] teslahv : #altitude

[2019-05-06 16:04:06] teslahv : XD

[2019-05-07 07:16:06] peteair : hello all. I've tried gps sdr sim (<https://github.com/osqzss/gps-sdr-sim>) for the same purpose and I've got the exact same problem as this guy (<https://github.com/osqzss/gps-sdr-sim/issues/142>). The sats are all put on the same place and my phone does not lock (airplane mode on, wifi for location turned off etc...). Any idea ? I'll try with a "real" receiver later

[2019-05-07 07:53:12] nopcode : wow this adalm-pluto sdr box looks nice, but apparently only has 5mW TX power

[2019-05-07 07:53:17] nopcode : is there a simple amplifier that you can use?

[2019-05-07 14:08:46] bin4ry : which device? i got it working on my hackrf with a tcxo, no chance without

[2019-05-07 16:04:38] peteair : LimeSDR mini, also a TXCO....checked with a spectrum analyzer and the emission is perfectly centered

[2019-05-07 16:07:09] bin4ry : ok, hmm strange. did you make sure you had the actual files from the nasa ftp?

[2019-05-07 16:32:07] peteair : yep I tried with the "brc..." file from the day. What's strange is that I see the satellites generated in the file and with good signal level. After a complete restart of my phone in airplane mode (wifi disabled etc...) I don't have the "stacked satellites" pbm anymore but still no lock :confused:

[2019-05-07 17:07:30] d95gas : My son has just posted a video of what "Travellers" did to a brand new van belonging to the company next door to him. It was done at 6pm, all caught on video. The Luton Box van that was there collecting all the parts, is parked on a field up the road where the travellers have camped, along with a silver vehicle of the same make and mode of the one in the video. Avon & Somerset have refused to attend, said they dont fingerprint anymore, and gave the poor guy a crime ref number. he is now £1000's out of pocket, the van is basically written off. This is what we have come to in the UK with Law Enforcement, we pay for them, and all they do is sit on their arses. To say I am angry is an understatement. Be interesting to see the view here>

[2019-05-07 17:52:33] andrwho25 : wow

[2019-05-07 18:08:19] d95gas : Think the original is going viral on Facebook, Avon & Somerset Police should be totally ashamed of themselves. Thats a blokes living down the pan

[2019-05-07 18:20:31] bin4ry : maybe level too high? did you try a attenuator? i read it helped some people

[2019-05-07 18:55:56] pross : Pikey ******s

[2019-05-08 12:23:06] validat0r : are there any good ADS-B maps besides [flightradar24.com](http://flightradar24.com), which annoyingly filters out quite a few flights

[2019-05-09 21:00:11] bobdole : whats the going rate for a mavic 2 pro with "low flight time" "swear to god its never been crashed" ??

[2019-05-09 21:06:17] lolo780 : 1200?

[2019-05-09 21:06:21] lolo780 : 1100?

[2019-05-09 21:12:09] bobdole : ok... can i buy one of yours for 1100?

[2019-05-09 21:21:55] lolo780 : Mine has over 7000km on it

[2019-05-09 21:22:38] lolo780 : Oops, 8000km

[2019-05-09 21:25:50] bobdole : ok fine... $700

[2019-05-09 21:26:23] bobdole : or just throw in an EcuTek

[2019-05-10 04:09:25] teslahv : You should publish those numbers Lolo780! They are free advertisement for DJI :dizzy_face:

[2019-05-10 04:09:57] teslahv : What did you get on an M1 btw?

[2019-05-11 04:55:02] bobdole : Got a new "no box" m2p 1250

[2019-05-11 07:33:49] teslahv : Hahaha must be first world problems :see_no_evil::joy:

[2019-05-14 15:13:41] bobdole : two flights later on the new m2p.. drilled a hole in the back of the controller and crammed trash and a little bit of super glue in there to stop the beeping.. then modded the controller to use with an amped antenna. seems like it has exactly the same range of the m1p as it switches to 2.4ghz when 5.8ghz signal is weak. i wish there was a way to force it to stay

[2019-05-14 16:08:24] bin4ry : i can’t get any range on 5.8 st all, i usually force it to 2.4 funny how different usecases are

[2019-05-14 16:59:02] bobdole : well.. using alientech 5.8G amp/antenna I am getting less range than I was getting with the m1p on 2.4ghz using the alientech 2.4G. it is still 2x the range compared to stock through interference in auto (switches me to 2.4ghz), but I could go 20% further with m1p on 2.4ghz amped

[2019-05-14 16:59:37] bobdole : for some reason the alientech 2.4g wasn't working with the m2p

[2019-05-14 17:01:31] bobdole : needs birdside 5.8ghz amp

[2019-05-15 06:19:56] bobdole : Disregard.. Tried the 2.4g again, starting off in 2.4ghz and went 30% further than the 5.8g. This is slightly better than the mp1. I guess I'll keep 5.8ghz put aside for use in areas with heavier 2.4ghz interference.

[2019-05-15 06:50:27] lolo780 : Is that the Pro? What are the quick release connectors called?

[2019-05-15 14:32:43] bobdole : @lowellfoo780 that wifi interference graph, does it show you just at the remote controller, or at the aircraft?

[2019-05-15 14:43:22] lolo780 : Rc

[2019-05-15 14:43:25] lolo780 : I think

[2019-05-15 16:05:39] bobdole : Here's my 2.4ghz

[2019-05-15 16:09:44] bobdole : 5.8 is pretty clean but doesn't penetrate enough for that to matter around here

[2019-05-15 17:00:48] t3rm1 : <https://youtu.be/KhDEEN4gcpI?t=108> drone firekworks with 1500 drones

[2019-05-17 21:57:22] chipmangini : <https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/290856-the-dronebullet-is-built-to-seek-and-destroy-other-drones>

[2019-05-17 22:38:19] lolo780 : <https://www.durex.co.uk/products/durex-intense-delight-bullet-vibrator-sex-toy>

[2019-05-17 23:06:06] quad808 : :exploding_head:

[2019-05-17 23:30:24] teslahv : ..

[2019-05-19 02:02:53] abrahamsanchez89 : Hi everyone, I'm very new with drones, I have a Spark and I used with the RC but today I have updated the firmware from the RC and now I can not fly because the GEO Zones, how can I downgrade the firmware of the RC? I am right now in the 01.00.0400 and what to go back 01.00.0300...

[2019-05-20 15:38:14] teslahv :

[2019-05-21 20:43:56] chipmangini : A Tello and giant bubbles with videos in them. What's not to love....:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZLVTZVzg7k>

[2019-05-25 19:21:27] teslahv : <https://youtu.be/nlGYwO_6Sow> Somehow there's hardly anything that wouldn't have been done already.

[2019-05-25 19:23:00] teslahv : Forgive me getting drowned into nostalgy.

[2019-05-25 22:09:05] teslahv : Ok finally re-found that video and watched it. Now that is truly stunning! Looks incredibly amazing!

[2019-05-29 10:09:40] chipmangini : Gotta get me one of these..... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=88&v=BSbynmTcAYk>

[2019-05-29 10:16:57] cs2000 : WTF is that? A Deca-octo-copter?!? (18 rotors?)

[2019-05-29 19:59:40] buundy : Does anyone have experience with Bosch ebike battery hacking? The BMS module locks down itself sometimes and it cannot be recovered. There is a company in germany that claims that they can repair them. I have the IC markings so I could get the BMS controller IC's documentation but I am not an electrical engineer, and I dont have experience with those spi amd i2c communication protocols, and fault memory reset, etc. Anyone interested in some research?

[2019-05-29 21:44:39] erwin : Does the battery has more than 2 pins?

[2019-05-29 21:45:38] erwin : I don't have a bosch (but a cheap bafang) and I have made an emergency battery from old crappy laptop cells and no bms :joy:

[2019-05-29 23:22:35] quad808 : anyone have this little quad? <https://www.banggood.com/Eachine-TRASHCAN-75mm-Crazybee-F4-PRO-OSD-2S-Whoop-FPV-Racing-Drone-Caddx-Eos2-Adjustable-Camera-25200mW-VTX-p-1386071.html?akmClientCountry=America&rmmds=cart_middle_products&ID=557178&cur_warehouse=CN>

[2019-05-30 00:04:05] zapf : I heard some nice things from uavfutures on it. I think the mobula 7 and the tinyhawk are the most talked about though

[2019-05-30 00:04:10] zapf : I like my tinyhawk for indoors

[2019-05-30 00:54:36] quad808 : Thinking about picking up this one, since I already have goggles and a Taranis.

[2019-05-30 00:57:59] zapf : @quad808 both of those are quad only, with a taranis receiver

[2019-05-30 05:17:18] teslahv : Yesterday, I picked my Mobula7 up. Managed to bind (EU-LBT) but I couldn't arm. In a youtube howto I noticed how they set some things on the FC using Betaflight and on the Taranis. Will yet have to do those things.

[2019-05-30 05:18:12] teslahv : Taranis QX7 I have.

[2019-05-30 16:11:23] ryan929 : Does anyone have a favorite-adapter to use for good 5.8 GHz connection to Yuntecc/etc drones WiFi -- or any experience joining their WiFi not on the ST16/etc controllers?

[2019-05-30 21:42:14] fredmicrowave : <https://content.dji.com/drone-collision-that-never-happened/?fbclid=IwAR2LOVfPOigA6_ofmK_Tbt27FQmVpAkffT87VgsAZJZzWHeWggNdGOYGZ5M>

[2019-05-31 04:39:54] teslahv : Managed to get airborne :)

[2019-05-31 04:40:56] teslahv : But I guess I'd need to use Betaflight on Windows as it doesn't let me view the modes tab correctly.

[2019-05-31 04:42:23] teslahv : And got problems with the battery voltage too. Can fly like 1 min.

[2019-05-31 04:42:53] teslahv : With one battery it's constantly beeping.

[2019-05-31 10:13:56] teslahv : Solved by not using high voltage despite having LiHV, and turning on the craft while Taranis is switched off if I must use HV batteries.

[2019-05-31 10:15:27] teslahv : Solved using 60% DOD for warning criteria and 3.4 V instead of 3.55 V for warning voltage.

[2019-05-31 10:16:29] teslahv : Now enjoying and only doing rate mode LOS.

[2019-05-31 10:21:40] validat0r : vid or it didnt happen

[2019-05-31 10:59:27] teslahv : Vid of what?

[2019-05-31 12:49:25] validat0r : You doing rate mode LOS

[2019-05-31 13:01:57] teslahv : Not with flips

[2019-05-31 13:02:44] teslahv : Just trying not to crash for 1 min or the time it takes to get down to 3.4 V.

[2019-05-31 13:04:25] teslahv : Maximum angle I was able to do in my appartement was less than 40 degrees I think.

[2019-05-31 13:07:30] teslahv : So apart from the angle not going back to level it didn't behave special acrobatically.

[2019-06-01 17:31:30] teslahv : Yesss finally solved the FC lock up problem and got telemetry working (Battery percentage, max. current, LiPo voltage, ...).

[2019-06-02 10:01:59] nopcode : hey

[2019-06-02 10:02:23] nopcode : i wanna build a portable fan with 18650s, quad motor & ESC... good idea? ^^

[2019-06-02 10:03:29] nopcode : anyways with a cheap ESC can you just give it power and feed it a PWM signal to directly control the motor or do you have to do any programming/initialization one time or each time it's powered up?

[2019-06-02 10:03:55] nopcode : does it just take PWM like a servo?

[2019-06-02 10:31:25] kilrah : depends which... normally most should still support pwm but since nobody uses it on quads anymore most recent ones might not

[2019-06-02 10:36:24] nopcode : i see. i just found the datasheet for a simonk one, that one still does

[2019-06-02 10:36:36] nopcode : wondeer how many amps i need for a single motor

[2019-06-02 10:38:39] kilrah : well how long do you want your fan to run for lol

[2019-06-02 10:38:50] nopcode : ok my quad has 20A escs and the extra motors i have should be similar

[2019-06-02 10:39:13] nopcode : mt2204-2300KV

[2019-06-02 10:39:17] nopcode : i have no idea what that means

[2019-06-02 10:42:28] teslahv : @kilrah Is it true that you are involved heavily with OpenTX development?

[2019-06-02 10:42:39] kilrah : yep

[2019-06-02 10:46:13] teslahv : Ok, really like the functionality of it! Why were people moaning about having to stay on the switching off button in order to turn of the Taranis? I like it and for me it's some safety.

[2019-06-02 10:47:13] kilrah : because people are people :neutral_face:

[2019-06-02 11:04:37] nopcode : what can i use to safely use 2 unprotected 18650 to power my motor via ESC?

[2019-06-02 11:04:46] nopcode : or should i hook them up to the esc directly?

[2019-06-02 11:05:30] nopcode : just charge them both up and put them in series? and the only thing i have to watch out for is the total voltage not dropping below 6V or so?

[2019-06-02 11:16:00] kilrah : yep

[2019-06-02 11:16:24] kilrah : and make sure they're balanced

[2019-06-02 11:16:30] kilrah : and capacity is close

[2019-06-02 11:30:51] nopcode : how do i do that? :smile:

[2019-06-02 11:31:08] nopcode : i have 4 cells which have only been used together and have a high amps rating

[2019-06-02 11:31:27] nopcode : i could use 2 of them and charge them both to 4.2V

[2019-06-02 11:31:45] nopcode : just ordered a simonk 25A ESC with a default cuttoff of 3.0V

[2019-06-02 11:33:56] nopcode : (per-cell)

[2019-06-02 18:38:33] bobdole : @teslahv you need to get yourself a replacement mavic <https://mavicpilots.com/threads/mavic-pro-platinum-unused-unactivated-replacement-from-dji-modded-remote-controller-for-use-with-amped-antenna-new-battery-more-800.66868/>

[2019-06-02 21:42:16] fredmicrowave : @nopcode Just use a servo tester with any esc, they are super cheap and you can control fan speed. Your esc will protect batteries from getting below 3v, if they are of same capacity .

[2019-06-02 22:17:16] nopcode : @fredmicrowave yeah but i want to build my own enclosure etc

[2019-06-02 22:17:39] nopcode : want to make a handheld fan with batteries & electronics in the grip

[2019-06-02 22:17:57] nopcode : 3d printed out of nylon or something

[2019-06-02 22:21:27] nopcode : but yeah you are right, i could take the pcb of a mini servo tester and use that

[2019-06-03 01:39:34] quad808 : @jacksphone Hope you sell it quickly. Looks like pristine condition. If I didn't have a Platinum already, I would pick up this one. I like the Platinum much more than the Mavic Pro.

[2019-06-03 01:51:56] bobdole : thanks

[2019-06-03 18:11:50] oqradze : Yesterday I had unknown problem for me. On my lcd dji go full lcd luged like flex cable problem but problem was not flex cable. Camera settings all become reseted to default. Video rec cenceled after 8 second and chenged to photo mode. In the evening all warked normal. Today I tested again. All is fine.

[2019-06-03 21:55:30] teslahv : The Infamous Gimbal reset?

[2019-06-04 06:46:35] nopcode : i had a gimbal reset on my mavic pro once while changing video settings

[2019-06-04 06:46:45] nopcode : scary as fuck if you see it the first time

[2019-06-04 06:46:48] nopcode : why does that happen?

[2019-06-04 11:33:40] nopcode : Does anyone know if there is a way to set a fixed aperture and iso on the m2pro and have the right RC dial adjust shutter speed only? Like... with a real camera.

[2019-06-04 12:59:25] mel69hash : Here comes Sparkie 2

[2019-06-04 13:33:30] nopcode : no link or anything...?

[2019-06-04 16:49:16] originaldobo007 : Fake render

[2019-06-07 17:00:18] quad808 : Russia....WTF <https://twitter.com/USNavy/status/1136978500185919488>

[2019-06-07 22:13:51] teslahv : That video is from RotorRiot. K.

[2019-06-08 00:16:14] originaldobo007 : What’s that video about?

[2019-06-08 05:16:35] teslahv : New kind of motor control for FPV multirotors.

[2019-06-08 05:25:38] quad808 : How about a link?

[2019-06-08 07:36:16] teslahv : Didn't know how to paste a link such that it is showing a specific frame.

[2019-06-08 07:37:35] teslahv : Anyway, here the link: <https://youtu.be/z93RcMCV2VY>

[2019-06-08 12:15:01] chipmangini : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJXpdndF64&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3Iux223c2pfAyL3HPcWGVwusdBWWnJShqwQF6w5TrKYZTidUVWgV3q42k>

[2019-06-10 09:51:47] nikogpsy : Robo Master dji vehicle?

[2019-06-10 17:11:22] quad808 : !DJI sex doll...Frank Wang

[2019-06-10 17:58:39] d95gas : About time he got screwed...... He's been screwing everyone else for long enough :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-06-11 16:08:43] fredmicrowave : This image is from link that is now down. <https://pocketnow.com/dji-robomaster-s1>

[2019-06-11 16:39:26] originaldobo007 : I wonder what the point of that is?

[2019-06-11 16:39:34] originaldobo007 : Looks like a Tonka toy.

[2019-06-11 16:45:38] fredmicrowave : Me too. Especially the "cannon" thing.

[2019-06-11 16:48:24] fredmicrowave : Maybe they want to seed the robots fight trend, similar to the race drones one ...

[2019-06-11 16:49:00] originaldobo007 : Just looks kind of like a stupid toy...

[2019-06-11 17:13:22] bobdole : <https://www.droningon.co/2019/06/11/dji-robomaster-robot-drone-leaked/>

[2019-06-11 17:13:59] bobdole : <https://www.droningon.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/62320568_10214444113716701_6004557428782268416_n.webp> i guess its legit?

[2019-06-11 17:18:42] teslahv : :sleeping:

[2019-06-11 17:35:09] originaldobo007 : Yep. It's a stupid toy.

[2019-06-11 17:42:38] teslahv : I see many are or used to be expecting an FPV racer be released. Or an FPV system for racing... Would have been interesting for sure.

[2019-06-11 17:45:22] teslahv : So why don't they do an FPV racer then? One which does 130 mph e.g. :grin:

[2019-06-11 20:50:37] zapf : There's a big boy version with a gimbal at one of the dji stores. I think people assumed that would be the one to be announced

[2019-06-11 23:03:47] zapf : Actually, the bigger one also had a little launcher on it. Dji has had the ROBOMASTER link on their site pretty prominently for a while, and it makes sense to start branching into new markets - there's only so many people who want a phantom or Mavic.

[2019-06-13 16:44:47] teslahv : <https://youtu.be/8lquX-imy6o> 07:05 No, it was not.

[2019-06-13 16:58:40] fredmicrowave : Yep. Needed a lot of imagination and the help of friends comments to make it look cool and entertaining for 7 minutes. Maybe that's just me. Or aimed to the Chinese market. I don't know.

[2019-06-13 18:49:40] teslahv : Hahaha

[2019-06-16 01:49:45] mrbracht : my buddy (Mavic Pro) and I (Mavic 2 Pro) were flying tonight, clouds were very low

[2019-06-16 01:50:52] originaldobo007 : Beautiful pics like that is why we need altitude removal on the M2 series.

[2019-06-16 01:51:29] mrbracht : Yeah, but I got lucky. These were taken with the m2p. The one pic you can see his Mavic in the pic.

[2019-06-17 07:44:50] cs2000 : Love that second pic with the MP1 in shot :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-06-17 22:10:50] mrbracht : Yeah, probably the best pics I have ever took to date.

[2019-06-18 00:00:24] originaldobo007 : Stunning

[2019-06-18 19:52:37] chipmangini : New gimbal design! <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTXjaCvNSqc>

[2019-06-23 12:30:24] chipmangini : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAN9kZDqB6g>

[2019-06-23 12:30:38] chipmangini : Way cool!

[2019-07-03 00:17:31] fredmicrowave : Dragonfly project -Flying a drone on Titan in search for alien life- has been approved. <https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasas-dragonfly-will-fly-around-titan-looking-for-origins-signs-of-life>

[2019-07-03 00:25:41] quad808 : Not so fast. Titan is a DJI No Fly Zone. NASA needs approval.

[2019-07-03 00:32:39] fredmicrowave : I wish we could use the same power source: A small RTG, allowing years of flight...

[2019-07-03 11:58:16] fredmicrowave : Before Titan's mission, they plan to send a drone do Mars. Hope !Dji is not going to copy the concept. Those large coaxial props are not made for the density of our atmosphere :laughing: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOMQOqKRWjU>

[2019-07-05 02:04:53] mefisto : I'm messing with transmitters of water meters in my area. Lots of transmissions, but only 3 major packet types. For one I can get the spec because I got the OEM application which receives them. But the others... Anyone heard of someone messing with that? or a site with structure of some such packets? (I'm not even sure they're all for water - some are transmitting even during the night)

[2019-07-05 08:48:22] jan2642 : Maybe Oona can help you, she has done some amazing RF reverse engineering: <https://www.windytan.com>

[2019-07-05 12:57:18] peteair : maybe I can help, have you been able to demodulate it already ? probably FSK I guess ? or something more evolved like LoRa ?

[2019-07-05 16:00:09] mefisto : I actually already did what i wanted, so not sure if I'll be getting any deeper... I had everything shipped in demodulated form alteady - in form of FTDI like interface. So i got binary packets, and only wanted to decode these. But turned out the issue I was having was due to OEM (bmeters ) changing their 'programming' procedure. With new procedure, the meters work.

[2019-07-05 16:02:31] peteair : ok !

[2019-07-06 17:10:18] ryan929 : @mefisto do you know the expected protocol for them, or proprietary? I tend to script things in Scapy to work through these raw protocol types of situations, but a lot easier when you have some marginal control over the source signal to cause variations that you can watch for.

[2019-07-06 21:09:50] mefisto : a common trait seem to be that first byte is packet size. the following 3 bytes are some kind of command / packet type selection, as there's only small group of values. And then there seem to be data.

[2019-07-06 21:10:29] mefisto : I don't think it's a common protocol. but I didn't researched this too much.

[2019-07-06 21:22:29] mefisto : Here is the code which checks packet type, if you're interested. Not a highest quality implementation.. good thing laptops are quite fast now. I imagine on slower machines (or with too much sensors around) it drops most of incoming packets by mistake.

[2019-07-06 23:43:25] fredmicrowave : You probably know this, but there is a lot of software decoders that can decode, or at least analyse, exotics signal, the hardware being DSC receivers or soundcards with conventional radio receivers: <https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/HF_Software_Decoders> You may want to have a look at Sorcerer, among others..

[2019-07-08 00:41:21] ryan929 : Thanks, skimmed through it. I saw this type of thing on "original" "smart" power meters years ago where they did a basic FSK (if I recall correctly) modulation OTA, I assume this capture is something you took off a bus between an RF PCB and the main MCU, or captured with an RF IC PCB of your own -- thus the focus is just on depacketizing and parsing, not on capturing/demoding the RF

[2019-07-12 17:04:22] cantrepeat : If you're still having issues modding in winXP might I suggest <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX8yrOAjfKM>

[2019-07-12 23:58:19] papareproductora : Hahahah

[2019-07-15 21:57:23] venom-code : <https://www.yahoo.com/news/french-inventor-wows-bastille-day-084043545.html>

[2019-07-15 22:08:56] validat0r : I bet when you buy it, it has no flyboard zones ..

[2019-07-15 23:37:11] venom-code : :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

[2019-07-16 01:02:31] bobdole : oh man... sent m2p into 25mph headwind on a litchi mission that should take about 16 minutes. when i lost connection it was 2 minutes in and said i had 10 minutes flight time remaining. will it make it back?

[2019-07-16 01:02:33] bobdole : XD

[2019-07-16 04:23:57] venom-code : so did it get back or not ?

[2019-07-16 05:59:01] bobdole : oh yeah.. landed after 0% i got connection back right as it was critical landing. battery appears to be OK

[2019-07-16 16:14:13] nublish101 : haha bob @jacksphone your talking abotu me riskign it for a biscuit with ym modding frenzy :stuck_out_tongue:

[2019-07-18 21:58:27] chipmangini : Winner of best drone video of 2019, I have no idea how since it's only July, but it's an awesome piece of work! <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEqBGOuo5Es>

[2019-07-19 00:50:07] bobdole : Is there a trick to flying a Mavic 2 in through a 2ft wide hotel window? Seems to want to drift into the window frame

[2019-07-19 04:48:17] teslahv : Fly in Atti and do the positioning yourself.

[2019-07-19 15:50:26] papareproductora : I've passed several times through the doors of an abandoned train wagon with a mp1 in sport mode. Its not that difficult, but you must be aware of the delay. The trick is to take enough distance to mitigate the potentially delayed error that could carry you to an accident

[2019-07-19 15:51:03] papareproductora : Try to be the most in the middle of every window border, wall and roof.

[2019-07-19 15:51:59] papareproductora : When you get to see the error, or the shifted course, you are about 140ms behind it.

[2019-07-20 14:54:36] bobdole : it was wind or magnetic issues. i was standing about 5ft away and no matter what, it kept wanting to drift right into one side of the window

[2019-07-20 14:55:01] bobdole : atti, sport. gps... seemed sport was most stable right up until it was 1ft from the window frame

[2019-07-21 05:33:04] lolo780 : Fly faster.

[2019-07-21 05:33:28] lolo780 : You'll actually have more control. Maybe practice with an fpv drone first.

[2019-07-21 05:34:04] lolo780 : <https://www.iflight-rc.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=780> I have one of these

[2019-07-21 05:34:36] lolo780 : Flies nice on 3s 520mah HV

[2019-07-21 10:58:12] teslahv : Doesn't need to be an HD Whoop. In the FPV stream you won't have HD and that very stream is what you're gonna judge your actions after.

[2019-07-21 16:40:36] d95gas : Call out to the forum for some help and encouragement. My 6yr old grandson who has always been a bit of loner, is starting to come out of his shell with Football, which he just loves. He has just done a video on YouTube, and just asking if some of you out there wouldnt mind viewing...... Its sends him into such a happy frenzy when he sees the watch list going up.

[2019-07-21 16:40:40] d95gas : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIVlsIfhuTM>

[2019-07-21 16:40:49] d95gas : Thanks in anticipation of your help

[2019-07-21 17:05:55] pross : *watch and a like for the boy :)*

[2019-07-21 17:23:57] d95gas : Cheers Buddy ..... He is over the moon.... not seen him so happy for a long time, keeps checking every few mins to see if its gone up :slightly_smiling_face: something tells me mum is going to have trouble at bedtime

[2019-07-21 17:32:02] hans112 : Done :)

[2019-07-21 17:45:55] d95gas : Brill ..... His mum just said, his face is a picture when he sees the view count going up

[2019-07-21 18:35:48] bin4ry : heh watched his second video now :wink:

[2019-07-21 18:36:13] bin4ry : maybe give him some hints how to keep the viewers, like talking to them :grin:

[2019-07-21 18:41:53] d95gas : Cheers bin4ry, appreciate you taking the time. Yes I told him if he wants to continue to do this, and we are encouraging him to do so, he has to try talking more, and adding some notes. This is his first step, usually very shy and withdrawn.... so we are hoping this will bring him out a bit, and show him a different way to socialise :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-07-21 18:47:11] bin4ry : hehe, i wouldn’t dare to show myself on youtube. so thumbs up for the courage :+1: but talk to him to not take any bad comments to hard, the internet trolls tend to be assholes .... anyway encourage him to talk more and say goodbye at the end :grin:

[2019-07-21 18:55:37] nublish101 : ahhh fuck it im nto a footy person but

[2019-07-21 18:55:42] nublish101 : ik cant dney a 6 yr old a msilke

[2019-07-21 19:33:01] rickw001 : done

[2019-07-21 20:49:46] originaldobo007 : Where’s the second video? Please put up link

[2019-07-21 20:51:10] pross : `<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4SMd4sngS7K9QimFWxI9YA>`

[2019-07-21 20:51:12] originaldobo007 : Nvm. Found it and gave a thumbs up.

[2019-07-21 20:51:16] originaldobo007 : :+1::skin-tone-3:

[2019-07-21 20:52:56] originaldobo007 : This little tyke’s gonna be a soccer star! :soccer:

[2019-07-21 21:11:40] chipmangini : @d95gas Done on both links. Just wait till he finds out that these "likes" are coming from all over the globe, not just his schoolmates! :+1:

[2019-07-21 23:03:42] quad808 : @d95gas My pleasure! Done!

[2019-07-22 06:56:32] d95gas : Thanks guys, really appreciate it, he was so excited last night, and normally not much excites him. This is a fantastic result, as the games machines haven't been turned on for a full day, he is now planning his next video with Grandad's guidance, titles going to be "how to get a Russian bride" :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-07-22 06:57:08] d95gas : Yes he is amazed at how this is worldwide...... we will NO be bursting his bubble

[2019-07-22 16:58:07] nublish101 : @d95gas check your PM's from me as id like to try help you and your grandson with some potentil reasons and advice on how to help him keep progressing :smile: not only with youtube but in his brakign out his shell as i see an aweful lot of me in him at when i was that age difference with me was it was computers and tech that braught me out my shell and helped me progress seem like hes found his thing in football but yeah i hope my advice goes over well and is hope is taken as intended

[2019-07-24 12:56:51] capra_vecinului : !wiki

[2019-07-24 23:13:16] mefisto : My ISP just installed me Technicolor CGA2121. With very restricted access to the device configuration - I can only switch mode between router/bridge and change wifi settings (SSID and pass). I do that from ISP page - so I assume it configures my device via secured SNMP? When I try locally - telnet is disabled, non authorized SNMP doesn't seem to respond, HTTP panel is there, but doesn't have default password. I wonder if there is any easy way in..

[2019-07-25 00:45:42] cantrepeat : probably sniffing all your packets now too

[2019-07-25 00:46:25] cantrepeat : did you see if you can access it on 192.168.1.254 ??

[2019-07-25 07:10:29] mefisto : The default gateway IP is 192.168.0.1.

[2019-07-25 12:48:46] fredmicrowave : Did you try User: admin Pass: technicolor

[2019-07-25 14:28:26] mefisto : Yes I did. It won't be that obvious. I don't really want to disassemble it, but I wonder whether there's a serial interface somewhere.. if you have physical access, the simplest way is usually to hook to serial interface and modify kernel params in bootloader. like "init=/bin/bash".

[2019-07-30 21:39:08] chipmangini : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zui8QJo6FW4&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR29BCz0f1wuNJbxSe9_EXERQ6noMjihBXf9Sa7f_znFlEcUL7cLaPVbuoA>

[2019-07-30 21:50:08] validat0r : what kind of birds have TFRs?

[2019-07-30 21:56:25] quad808 : Any DJI Drone connected with internet connection using stock GO. Yep, you got that right. ALL OF THEM. TFR's get pushed to the drone. This is why you avoid Stock GO at all costs.

[2019-07-30 21:57:36] validat0r : oh boy ..

[2019-07-30 21:58:56] validat0r : might have been better idea to try to land on the bridge :smile:

[2019-07-30 21:58:58] quad808 : halfway done with this video. EVERYONE should watch this

[2019-07-30 21:59:22] validat0r : but I'd rth, too

[2019-07-30 21:59:53] quad808 : DJI should replace the drone. They did it. They alone. Not the FAA, not any government agency. DJI. Wow.

[2019-07-30 22:00:13] validat0r : how are these TFR communicated in the stock app?

[2019-07-30 22:09:56] quad808 : pushed to the app, which updates the NFZ. DJI is very tricky.

[2019-07-30 22:10:24] validat0r : I mean, do you get a warning when flying into a TFR?

[2019-07-30 22:11:03] quad808 : Did you notice the video? NO WARNING.

[2019-07-30 22:11:36] validat0r : vid starts quite late into the flight

[2019-07-30 22:11:46] validat0r : i mean earlier, when entering the TFR

[2019-07-30 22:11:51] validat0r : or starting in it

[2019-07-30 22:12:49] quad808 : for example...lets say you are out flying, and happen to be near a DJI NFZ. All of the sudden, for whatever reason you lose GPS...drone goes into ATTI mode. You keep flying, fully still in control of your drone. You happen to fly into the NFZ. All of the sudden you get GPS back. Guess what happens to your drone??

[2019-07-30 22:13:44] validat0r : you dont have to explain to me why nfz sucks :wink: my birds dont get near stock GO

[2019-07-30 22:14:00] quad808 : yep, you and me brother

[2019-07-30 22:14:58] quad808 : I don't think you get a warning about TFRs before they take effect....BUT not 100% certain

[2019-07-30 22:21:30] quad808 : As far as I am concerned, DJI should give you, as pilot a choice. Let DJI manage all flights in regards to NFZ, or allow you to do it. Yes or no. But that doesn't fit into their corporate strategy.

[2019-07-31 03:01:02] brett.e.burkhart : I agree @quad808 there should always be a way for the pilot to over ride. This is what happened with the 737 Max and over 300 people were killed...

[2019-08-01 02:40:23] nublish101 : @brett.e.burkhart what 737 max was this ?

[2019-08-01 02:40:45] nublish101 : and that just reminded me of the amaxzon plane thaty went down in cali did they ever figure out if it was suicide

[2019-08-01 20:34:45] sheldon.holy : Pilots can override the MCAS system with two switches. Many in the pilot community feel that the crashes were due to poor training (runaway trim is a memory checklist item).

[2019-08-03 20:18:42] chipmangini : <https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=verity+studios-+failsafe+firmware+for+DJI&&view=detail&mid=04EB9564CC4561B673E604EB9564CC4561B673E6&&FORM=VRDGAR>

[2019-08-03 20:25:55] chipmangini : Landing with only 2 props on a quad, WAT?

[2019-08-04 00:50:40] dkovar : If you rotate the UAV as well as the rotors then you distribute the lift evenly and can control it.

[2019-08-04 01:14:33] lolo780 : Seems like a great idea

[2019-08-04 19:44:10] d95gas : !wiki

[2019-08-07 16:58:45] mefisto : That's interesting. I assumed they simply use SNMP - specs say it is supported. OpenWRT - that's good, I wish more routers would use it. The web interface doesn't look like LuCI; but could be simply reskinned.

[2019-08-07 17:00:32] mefisto : Anyway, I figured messing with it isn't worth the effort - the ISP told me it's not mine anyway, and they will want it back. I just bougth a second one, and asked ISP to switch Technicolor into bridge mode. Works.

[2019-08-13 09:31:18] validat0r : big feature on counter uav stuff on german [spiegel.de](http://spiegel.de) site .. but behind paywall. anyone got spiegel+ and can copy?

[2019-08-16 06:19:38] bobdole : wheres the drone thing. i saw something about leonardo decaprio's "beautiful long legs" and i just stopped there <https://www.spiegel.de/plus/tarantinos-kostuembildnerin-im-interview-leo-hat-so-schoene-lange-beine-a-edd1e1d3-9635-4b29-a270-fecec88d6841>

[2019-08-16 10:24:01] cantrepeat : anyone pick up a Pi 4 yet?

[2019-08-16 10:55:59] validat0r : <https://www.spiegel.de/plus/angst-vor-terror-mit-dem-funkwellengewehr-auf-drohnenjagd-a-404b54dc-17ba-4c46-89d0-ba8ec920f96b>

[2019-08-16 10:56:24] validat0r : and how come you stop on leos legs :smile:

[2019-08-16 13:51:10] bobdole : because i see the site is ridiculous

[2019-08-16 13:51:57] bobdole : it looks like they're using something you could make if you took your microwave apart

[2019-08-16 13:52:25] bobdole : it would be a good thing to aim at someone with a pacemaker

[2019-08-16 15:04:15] validat0r : biggest online news outlet in germany .. so only average amount of ridiculous articles

[2019-08-16 15:04:46] validat0r : but it's summertime .. so, maybe more ridiculous than usual :smile:

[2019-08-22 19:31:15] cantrepeat : what gear are people using for their 1090 flight aware feeds?

[2019-08-22 19:45:18] validat0r : Whats that?

[2019-08-22 19:45:57] cantrepeat : ADS-B feeders

[2019-08-22 19:46:42] cantrepeat : <https://flightaware.com/adsb/>

[2019-08-22 19:46:59] cantrepeat : devices that track local aircraft

[2019-08-22 19:47:33] cantrepeat : <https://flightaware.com/adsb/piaware/>

[2019-08-22 19:47:48] cantrepeat : lot of them out there built around Pi devices

[2019-08-22 19:48:37] validat0r : right ..

[2019-08-22 19:49:11] validat0r : i heard there's much DIY stuff for ADS-B out there

[2019-08-22 19:50:07] cantrepeat : Yeah, I built a Pi and put a flight aware pro stick and antenna together

[2019-08-22 19:50:23] cantrepeat : Range is about 125nm and I'm looking to increase it

[2019-08-22 19:50:27] validat0r : sth like that, yeah .. does it work?

[2019-08-22 19:50:42] validat0r : awesome .. wanted to do sth like that myself .. is it hard?

[2019-08-22 19:50:43] cantrepeat : thought there might be a few others on here building them

[2019-08-22 19:51:06] cantrepeat : <https://flightaware.com/adsb/stats/user/cantrepeat>

[2019-08-22 19:51:10] cantrepeat : my feed

[2019-08-22 19:51:45] validat0r : [flightradar24.com](http://flightradar24.com) is filtering so much .. not sure, what kind of filtering flightware does

[2019-08-22 19:52:18] cantrepeat : I ran that too on the same Pi for about 6 months

[2019-08-22 19:52:44] cantrepeat : all the software is still there I just don't load it any longer

[2019-08-22 19:52:50] validat0r : are there more services like flightware and flightradar out there?

[2019-08-22 19:53:18] cantrepeat : I don't know. Those were the only two I installed. There may be others

[2019-08-22 19:54:00] validat0r : PiAware ..

[2019-08-22 19:54:23] cantrepeat : I'm looking for an amplifier and a bias tee to put inline and see if I can stretch my range out to the 250nm mark.

[2019-08-22 19:54:43] cantrepeat : Piaware uses flight aware as their back bone

[2019-08-22 19:55:21] validat0r : yeah .so many stations in my vicinity ..

[2019-08-22 19:55:49] cantrepeat : oh yeah, it wont be like I'm reporting any planes that aren't already covered

[2019-08-22 19:55:56] cantrepeat : just hobby mostly

[2019-08-22 19:56:16] cantrepeat : at first I did to track local AC before I flew the drone.

[2019-08-22 20:41:18] andrwho25 :

[2019-08-22 20:42:55] cantrepeat : That's pretty defined. :smile:

[2019-08-22 20:48:03] bobdole : yeah i saw that too... FAA reminding us that it is OK to put a blade under 2.5" length on your drone <https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/930>

[2019-08-23 03:34:27] lolo780 : How about lasers

[2019-08-24 06:52:37] bjoneseying : <https://youtu.be/45oFCE2OoL0>

[2019-08-24 06:52:49] bjoneseying : LMAO :sweat_smile:

[2019-08-24 06:54:22] bjoneseying : Our 2 "favourite" YouTubers :stuck_out_tongue:

[2019-08-24 17:29:12] lolo780 : TL;DW

[2019-08-26 04:23:44] bjoneseying : i skip thru it

[2019-08-26 19:55:59] ziggy : yep, much faster! Prusa Slic3r works smoothly so you don't need any pc for 3d printing anymore. BEWARE: the choosen ARM has the famous Meldown and Spectre bugs, probably chosen intentionally, so take care.

[2019-08-27 23:18:02] fredmicrowave : Just add a cockpit on a gimbal and you have a awesome vehicle : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjYVOcS0qd8>

[2019-08-29 20:01:44] bobdole : anybody got an inspire 1 with an x4 or x5 camera as well as a mavic 2 pro? wondering how they compare

[2019-08-29 20:06:13] sheldon.holy : Do you mean X3 for i1?

[2019-08-29 20:06:21] sheldon.holy : M2p is better than an x3

[2019-08-29 20:06:29] sheldon.holy : X5 is better than m2p

[2019-08-30 01:38:28] bobdole : i guess you cant use x4s on i1 eh? well there are a lot of i1+x5 combo with batteries and case on ebay right now

[2019-08-30 01:38:56] bobdole : just got 107 certified and wondering if i'll ever need an inspire

[2019-08-30 01:59:08] sheldon.holy : Tbh i1 is being phased out

[2019-08-30 01:59:21] sheldon.holy : Soon many of the parts will be unobtainium

[2019-08-30 01:59:48] sheldon.holy : Correct, all the S models (x4s, x5s and x7s) are i2 only

[2019-08-30 01:59:56] sheldon.holy : Or m210 in some cases, if you're so inclined

[2019-08-30 07:44:48] lolo780 : My I1s are collecting dust. I should give them some flight time...

[2019-08-30 08:40:53] erwin : I am trying to remove jello :confused: <https://photos.app.goo.gl/oEWBFmCBCJrwFc947> has anyone tried the rubbers on p4 mounts for fpv?

[2019-08-30 20:24:55] lolo780 : The p4 dampers would probably be too large. I've used mavic ones before, or DIY something.

[2019-08-31 10:06:04] erwin : Mavic ones? You mean rubber bands? @lowellfoo780

[2019-08-31 16:49:07] jemo07 : Hi all, I’m looking to see if you can somehow capture the live video feed from the DJI drones... has anyone RE Ocusync is this possible? I was just trying some over the air capture from my Mavic’s ( air-one-pro) but I’m getting tons of traffic here at home before I turn on the drone... when I do, I don’t get much. I’m just doing a HackerRF spectrum analyzer but there is too much garbage there... anyone have a GNU radio flowgraph made to accomplish this? I need to hop around for the capture. Also, anyone know of any good brut force code out here that leverages GPUs? I was considering the following, set a black image on the drone, capture that traffic then do a brute force comparison. I have acces to an Envidia DGX1 so that could make life easier. :)

[2019-08-31 19:15:10] mefisto : protocol is usually discussed in ~aeroscope-droneid but not much specifics has been published.

[2019-09-04 17:17:51] fredmicrowave :

[2019-09-04 17:38:18] dji778 : wholesome meme

[2019-09-05 09:19:06] xela75 : At least there’ll be fewer deaths

[2019-09-09 17:28:49] t3rm1 : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDCIRvyeMxk>

[2019-09-09 17:28:58] t3rm1 : Awesome

[2019-09-11 08:04:19] mingtao : WOOOOOW

[2019-09-11 13:24:17] xela75 : Helix is in top 5 rollercoaster !

[2019-09-11 13:24:38] xela75 : Congratz to the pilote !

[2019-09-12 23:32:41] bobdole : why is it that dronebase offers me a decent paying gig tomorrow right after i trashed my last set of propellers today doing something stupid?

[2019-09-12 23:37:10] jrs : @jacksphone ah it's the age old ? I think It has something to do with Murphys law

[2019-09-12 23:37:10] bobdole : i should just fish the broken ones out of the trash

[2019-09-12 23:38:40] bobdole : was using dji go app's waypoint mission and put a pin on the wrong side of the freeway (10ft below surface of the hillside). i wasn't watching the screen while it tried to avoid trees but ended up drifting sideways into a stray branch

[2019-09-13 14:43:27] validat0r : Tough luck

[2019-09-16 06:10:07] bjoneseying : Bestbuy run - least they're good for something

[2019-09-16 08:22:28] manteiguita : hello everyone. There's something to Mavic 2 pro, to power up Fcc mode and disable NFZ?

[2019-09-16 08:23:07] manteiguita : I just want to fly more than 30 meters away... and always have the ratio that doesn't let me do nothing moe than that.

[2019-09-16 08:23:20] manteiguita : thanks in advance

[2019-09-16 09:28:04] elintnl : disable beginner mode

[2019-09-16 11:54:53] validat0r : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd1AIfgI5dM>

[2019-09-16 12:33:15] validat0r : ... and now sport mode+ :smile:

[2019-09-27 02:33:42] chipmangini : <https://youtu.be/_sBBaNYex3E>

[2019-09-27 02:37:36] chipmangini : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlkCQXHEgjA>

[2019-09-27 02:38:31] chipmangini : Wat?

[2019-09-27 15:35:42] lolo780 : Is it a brick phone?

[2019-09-27 16:44:07] cantrepeat : spot.getbeer()

[2019-09-27 18:32:50] bobdole : hey you Mavic 2 guys - what firmware version are you on? I'm debating features/fixes like PRECISION LANDING vs NFZ removal

[2019-09-27 18:39:52] pross : .. latest 510 or whatever it is

[2019-09-27 18:41:43] lolo780 : 400 nld

[2019-09-27 18:41:54] lolo780 : And 200

[2019-09-27 18:42:12] lolo780 : And 400.

[2019-09-27 18:42:48] lolo780 : Or is it 100. Whatever has nfz

[2019-09-27 18:43:11] lolo780 : Will try 510 on one

[2019-09-27 18:43:23] bobdole : other than nfz, do you notice any differences between 100 and 400?

[2019-09-27 18:43:38] lolo780 : Side obstacle avoidance.

[2019-09-27 18:43:47] bobdole : ???

[2019-09-27 18:43:57] lolo780 : 200+

[2019-09-27 18:44:05] bobdole : oh man i thought i had that on 100

[2019-09-27 18:44:20] lolo780 : Active tracking. Otherwise it flies into trees and things during active track.

[2019-09-27 18:44:39] bobdole : yep.. been in a tree

[2019-09-27 18:44:40] lolo780 : Few other things I forget now.

[2019-09-27 18:45:14] pross : they dont do a combined changelog anywere.. which is useful

[2019-09-27 18:45:33] bobdole : they leave stuff out of changelog too which is horrible

[2019-09-27 18:45:56] lolo780 :

[2019-09-27 18:45:57] pross : Yea as a software dev it really annoys me

[2019-09-27 18:46:17] pross : _bug fixes_ yea thx.. great lol

[2019-09-27 18:46:25] lolo780 : This is awesome on the M2. Flew 1/2 mile out and looped behind a building.

[2019-09-27 18:50:09] quad808 : Is that boosted 2.4 only or both?? 2.4 and 5.8

[2019-09-27 18:50:47] pross : Actually, this PDF has all the release notes for all firmware so far `<https://dl.djicdn.com/downloads/Mavic_2/20190916/Mavic_2_Pro_Zoom_Release_Notes_en.pdf>`

[2019-09-27 18:55:23] bobdole : yeah.. behind large office buildings a mile away. i love this amped antenna

[2019-09-27 18:56:10] quad808 : 2.4 or 5.8? which is "better"? Thinking of picking up one, boosted...maybe. Convince me.

[2019-09-27 18:57:11] quad808 : Drones - Evo, Anafi, mavic Pro/platinum, P4adv All RC's modded to accept antenna

[2019-09-27 18:57:42] bobdole : i had both and 2.4 worked better for me on the m2p.. but i guess if you're over urban areas 5.8 should work better

[2019-09-27 18:57:59] bobdole : it is absolutely necessary on a mavic air (5.8)

[2019-09-27 18:58:00] quad808 : I think all my drones are 2.4 except for the Anafi, which is both? I forget

[2019-09-27 18:58:44] quad808 : Remember that I have the Titan system, which is 2.4, so....

[2019-09-27 18:59:35] quad808 : I love the titan system, but it's heavy

[2019-09-27 18:59:43] lolo780 : 5.8 always better here

[2019-09-27 19:01:20] quad808 : I guess it doesn't really make sense to buy the boosted 2.4 alientech, if I already have the non-boosted alientech antenna that I can slap on the Titan

[2019-09-27 19:01:44] quad808 : loads of wifi interference where I fly mostly

[2019-09-27 19:04:05] bobdole : i predict that if you were to get the alientech 5.8 your titan would collect dust until you tripped over it one day and forgot what it was

[2019-09-27 19:04:28] quad808 : LOL...but you can't use a 5.8 on a 2.4 drone

[2019-09-27 19:05:36] bobdole : oh right.. other drones out there sorry

[2019-09-27 19:07:29] quad808 : Ok, so is this boosted alientech way lighter than the titan setup? It must be...

[2019-09-27 19:08:13] quad808 : I have to use a lanyard with the Titan...wrists get sore after a few minutes without one...

[2019-09-27 19:11:54] bobdole : i think its like 13oz or something

[2019-09-27 19:39:00] lolo780 : It's not bad. Could lighten it. 18650 batteries are nice.

[2019-09-27 19:39:17] lolo780 : Could run an external battery with a cord.

[2019-09-27 19:39:52] lolo780 : Quick [release.is](http://release.is) the best part. Convert to standard antenna in a few seconds.

[2019-09-27 20:07:33] bobdole : speaking of standard antenna... for 5.8ghz i've found Team Black Sheep Triumph CP FPV antenna to work best <https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-triumph-5-8ghz-cp-fpv-antenna.html> if anyone can think of anything else please let me know

[2019-09-27 20:09:23] lolo780 : For an omni?

[2019-09-27 20:10:35] lolo780 : I like the true RC antennas. The AXII performs well. I have those and the Singularity. AXII tests 2db stronger at close range.

[2019-09-27 20:11:48] lolo780 : But that's for fpv where both antennas ar RHCP. A linear antenna should work better for DJI stuff.

[2019-09-27 20:20:27] bobdole : the standard dji remote antenna works awesome.. wish i could fab up something that doesn't look ridiculous so i could use those with my qma connectors

[2019-10-07 00:33:37] cantrepeat : I put a raspberry PI 3b+ running Flight Aware with blue FA antenna and wifi hot spot in a mesh bag and flew it up to about 200 feet to see how much better it would perform. The range stayed about the same but I got a lot of flights there were normally in dead zones. Fun little experiment.

[2019-10-07 21:54:48] fredmicrowave :

[2019-10-21 20:36:01] chipmangini : <https://youtu.be/wCTKwkYzVzo>

[2019-10-21 21:07:56] fredmicrowave : Puzzling how all those drone delivery systems relies on people honesty or good faith ...

[2019-10-21 21:09:47] chipmangini : @fredmicrowave Let alone no VLOS....

[2019-10-21 22:09:22] bobdole : why wouldn't you shoot them out of the sky?

[2019-10-21 22:09:50] bobdole : or better.... intercept

[2019-10-22 00:34:11] fredmicrowave : Yes, There are plenty o thing you could do to them if you had bad intentions, even with stuff you find on the streets. But the simplest one would be just to grip the cable and pull down ...

[2019-10-22 12:24:08] nopcode : it could just have a secondary release at the top

[2019-10-22 12:24:18] nopcode : that triggers if you pull too hard

[2019-10-22 12:24:41] nopcode : also they could be filming downwards and streaming that

[2019-10-22 13:09:07] fredmicrowave : There is not really a release at the bottom, just a hook. And since there is some sort of a winch , a release system , either on top or bottom, is not so easy. Now there is surely a bunch of cameras looking down, but nothing that a large hat would not resolve :laughing: Oh well, i suppose delivery could only be performed upon face recognition...

[2019-10-22 22:05:59] borillion_star : So people where using something instead of Jadx, what was it LOL?

[2019-10-22 22:06:01] borillion_star : I forgot

[2019-10-23 04:53:08] bin4ry : jeb

[2019-10-25 00:09:34] rickysuper : Boosted Alientech antenna does not work on M2, both 2.4 and 5.8 got bad result and 2.4 was much worse than original antenna. Only non boosted Alientech or ITELITE antenna works. I haven't tried Titan yet.

[2019-10-25 00:31:14] mel69hash : M2 works best on user select 2.4ghz band not dual band. I used 4Hawks andnon Sunhans 3W dual amp and it's not good. Non boosted on 2.4 or 5.8 (in wifi congested area) works best. I'm now only use 4Hawks with FCC on auto band. That too it wont beat Nanosync on MP which I call fly out sea to and breach the hard closed distance without a glitch.

[2019-10-25 00:31:16] quad808 : Try setting the channel manually

[2019-10-25 00:31:56] quad808 : see if that makes a difference

[2019-10-28 17:21:56] quad808 : for something random...just ordered this for some OG gaming: <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33012391735.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5a8a4c4deXzIyX>

[2019-10-29 16:52:35] andrwho25 : oh ive played with that before

[2019-10-29 16:58:31] quad808 : and whats your verdict?

[2019-10-30 21:29:49] zapf : Its a cheap emulation box. You'll do better with building a mini pc or android box yourself. Check channels like ETA Prime

[2019-10-31 14:07:42] validat0r : <https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/30/20940921/us-interior-department-drone-grounding-china-spying-cybersecurity-risk>

[2019-10-31 14:08:12] validat0r : awww .. no mavic mini for USID

[2019-10-31 20:17:36] borillion_star : <https://jobs-consumers.icims.com/jobs/3229/resident-hacker/job>

[2019-10-31 22:25:11] bobdole : yeah... was always creepy when if i synched to the dji cloud, i could see cached photos of my flights on other devices. when you're harvesting incredible amounts of raw data ....

[2019-10-31 22:25:46] bobdole : !dji

[2019-11-03 16:22:02] capra_vecinului : So I played around today with my old Mavic Pro, and by chance noticed that, when held against the wind, the drone seems to want to power up, even though there is no battery connected to it. Notice the red and green lights. Anyone else had a similar behavior? How is this even possible and why? Here's a clip I made, proving this: <https://youtu.be/U3jVaJzNllo>

[2019-11-03 17:02:42] kbgroning : Same reason as why a wind turbine spins in the wind, thats what a prop is made for

[2019-11-03 18:51:35] fredmicrowave : While the motors are turning, they are acting like alternators, producing (3 phase) AC current. This is somehow rectified by the ESCs circuits ( that are not made for that), and directly fed to the board , but in reverse, not going through the switching circuit. Don´t do that. The circuit is not made to by partially powered like that, specially with an unregulated voltage . If voltage rises too much, you will damage your drone.

[2019-11-09 00:35:57] sheldon.holy : Same thing happens on most models of DJI drone, the flyback diodes/body diodes inside the motor driver MOSFETs rectify the AC generated by the motors and feed it into the power rail

[2019-11-09 00:36:11] sheldon.holy : Spin motors by hand on an inspire 1 and the LEDs glow :)

[2019-11-14 03:54:58] bjoneseying : Mavic Pro - powered by hopes and dreams (and wind)

[2019-11-14 22:22:13] chipmangini : Nice Controller!

[2019-11-14 22:23:39] validat0r : men have sunk their uav models in great bodies of water for ages .. great tradition

[2019-11-15 17:05:29] quad808 : I have a request...anyone into old arcade games? And a setup like this one? <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33012391735.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.38554c4d1uL39U> The problem is, I can't add game files to it, except for PSP .iso's no matter what I try. I think they locked it down somehow

[2019-11-15 17:06:03] quad808 : I need a wizard to unlock it and figure out why games can't be added...I have far too many roms....

[2019-11-15 17:34:00] the_lord : @quad808 check with Hostile

[2019-11-15 17:40:30] quad808 : Great! I forgot about him...yes, he is into these things

[2019-11-15 23:07:22] chipmangini : @ilovemynexus4 After some research, apparently this is actually a photo Howard Hughes himself testing the flight characteristics on his soon to be built "Flying Goose"

[2019-11-16 15:11:34] bobdole : are you trying mame games?

[2019-11-16 15:12:15] bobdole : i'd grab a random MAME rom and see if that works

[2019-11-16 15:15:00] bobdole : i'd ask the seller how to add a game and if they tell you something is locked out.. well then the back panel looks exactly like this thing right here <http://www.emuline.org/topic/1436-tuto-modding-of-s912-based-pandora%C2%B4s-key-7-treasure-3d-and-clones/>

[2019-11-16 17:24:57] quad808 : Thanks @jacksphone Mine is a different board...newest one, Pandora games 3D. Believe me, I have tried every which way to get the ungodly amount of roms I have to be detected by this board. The only ones so far that I can get detected are PSP .iso's. I believe there is a db involved and it is locked down to prohibit you from adding more roms, of any kind, unless they are in the db for that rom set. If I can manipulate that db, maybe I can add more....not sure how to go about it. Need more brain power on this. So far I have not tried "hacking" it at all.

[2019-11-16 18:48:18] bobdole : i bought random underpriced chinese spyware tech before. under the possibility of getting a full refund (NOWHERE DOES IT MENTION IN THE AD THAT YOU CANT ADD ROMS) from aliexpress, i've received custom firmware updates/modifications and ways to root. i would reach out to the seller and ask how to add games.. if he says you can't, then start heading towards opening a dispute

[2019-11-16 18:48:47] bobdole : aliexpress is wonderful like that

[2019-11-16 20:32:15] capra_vecinului : Why would lasers - even a lot of them - bring down a drone? <https://youtu.be/NIOh9-RoAaE>

[2019-11-16 21:20:46] fredmicrowave : Interesting. Even if it damaged all the optical sensors and cameras, it should not be enough to bring it down...

[2019-11-16 21:36:24] quad808 : thanks @jacksphone I have already messaged the seller, on top of that, one corner was damaged in shipping too...not that mad about that though...

[2019-11-17 13:32:31] d.cernak : Is it possible to replace mavic pro 1 ESC board with mavic platinum? someone mentioned that it works, but I cant find anything about it online, anyone heard about this? Thanks

[2019-11-17 14:19:48] the_lord : replacing it means converting ur MP to MPP and yes it works

[2019-11-18 01:32:54] papareproductora : Hi everyone. This ap crashed today in a model airplane club in General Rodriguez, Buenos Aires. Pilot wanted to do a roll and lost control.

[2019-11-18 10:06:36] d.cernak : Damn

[2019-11-18 10:48:36] cantrepeat : Holy shit, doesn't look like there is much left of the plane. Hope the pilot made it.

[2019-11-18 10:51:51] d.cernak : Is it hard to replace? I have some experience with disassembling laptops, but not soldering - is soldering needed? Thanks

[2019-11-18 11:04:15] d.cernak : Nevermind, found a video of a guy doing it

[2019-11-18 11:47:43] bobdole : last year he crashed one of these and was in a coma for days... and this time he didn't make it.. died instantly as he crashed into that building at over 400km/h

[2019-11-18 11:48:03] bobdole : according to the local news articles

[2019-11-18 14:22:04] originaldobo007 : Shit. Crazy

[2019-11-18 15:40:22] the_lord : Maybe it’s time to start learning how to solder, it’s not rocket science, but don’t practice on the Mavic :)

[2019-11-20 01:56:33] quad808 : How do you know you have too much shit? Well, when you are looking for something for two days, you KNOW for sure you have, can't find it, but know you put it somewhere easily accessible. Give up, go to Amazon, by another one to replace it, then a week later, you open a container and viola! Right there where you left it. DOH!!

[2019-11-20 05:55:07] kbgroning : :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:

[2019-11-20 09:34:21] cantrepeat : @quad808 I just did the same thing, but I had two of them already. The day the package arrived I walked out to the shop and right there on the shelf I stared at 2 days ago sat the two boxes I just spent a day looking for!!

[2019-11-20 14:23:26] capra_vecinului : Same thing happens if you start forgetting that you bought tools. I missed having a certain type of pliers so I kept purchasing them, until I found out that I had already three of the very same model :sweat_smile:

[2019-11-20 16:48:21] quad808 : Well....at least it isn't ONLY ME! @the_lord Priceless!!

[2019-11-20 17:28:46] fredmicrowave : <http://www.sohu.com/a/330252866_612346> Drones look familiar ? Google translate: "Portuguese Marines go to Lithuania to practice landing with Chinese folding drones with divers landing" Hope they deactivated Aeroscope stuf :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

[2019-11-20 17:29:50] fredmicrowave : there are more pictures when you click on the down arrow...

[2019-11-20 17:30:19] quad808 : "radio check"...ummm...Sir, we have a problem. My Go app shows that we have to scrub the mission. We can't take off.

[2019-11-20 17:31:37] the_lord : no they are good to go, its MP and i'm sure they have NLD accounts :smile:

[2019-11-20 17:58:58] quad808 : I need a favor...anyone speak Chinese and can check out an .apk for me? Game related. Rom downloads supposedly. I got the .apk from the manufacturer of the game system I bought, supposed to use this to add roms to the system

[2019-11-20 18:00:20] quad808 : <http://sem.zhongxiangcai.com/AISMxjmnq440.html>

[2019-11-20 18:01:17] quad808 : I have a ton of roms, but need to add to the system and supposedly you can only do it if you use this app, which does me no good if it is all in Chinese...LOL

[2019-11-20 18:38:27] validat0r : Google translate app with character recognition?

[2019-11-20 18:48:24] quad808 : ohhhhh....didn't know there was such a thing

[2019-11-20 18:48:58] quad808 : that might work, thanks...will look into it for sure

[2019-11-20 22:02:05] fredmicrowave : I have used i2ocr (online) and it works pretty well.

[2019-11-21 09:33:17] haloweenhamster : hi peeps, been a while, hows things? saw the drone tracking app news so thought I best come back to see whats been happening here & to see if theres any way to block the app or get the mavic to send spoof packets or both many OG's left here? seen a few familiar names

[2019-11-21 10:48:20] cs2000 : Howdy @haloweenhamster good to see you back! Plenty of us left around here :)

[2019-11-21 22:21:00] quad808 : Ok, I have searched, and searched. I need Mame Rom set .084 pronto!

[2019-11-22 20:01:44] bobdole : oh man... one of my mavic 2 pro's got stuck in a tree while running a preprogrammed orthomosaic map that a client set up (yeah i didn't walk around the massive facility).. i had to take off for my main job and come back like a week later. apparently it falls out of the tree and this guy was nice enough to bring it back to the office when i called in to go out and recover it.... but he updated the firmware

[2019-11-22 20:02:32] validat0r : how nice

[2019-11-22 20:03:05] bobdole : he also included a nice sunset hyperlapse

[2019-11-22 20:04:19] oakley75 : Hard not to get pissed about that one...

[2019-11-22 20:05:34] bobdole : i'm still bringing him 2 cases of beer

[2019-11-22 20:08:41] oakley75 : No doubt, glad you got it back

[2019-11-22 20:27:11] buundy : :slightly_smiling_face:

[2019-11-22 20:50:45] quad808 : Wow, bring it back after using it...probably felt guilty.

[2019-11-22 21:42:45] bobdole : i don't think it handled the fall well. arm was dislocated, gimbal has big gaps. it landed in rocks. its already out for dji care and when the new one gets back... its going on ebay

[2019-11-25 21:55:33] pingspike : twitter are cleaning house... I've had a whole bunch of emails today about deleting old accounts if I don't log in and rescue them

[2019-11-27 17:58:12] borillion_star : Anyone had a chance to pick up one of chasing innovations ROVs? :laughing:

[2019-11-27 17:59:05] borillion_star : I picked up a Dory, wifi buoy has an open port 80 running some kind of web service and 22

[2019-11-27 18:00:26] borillion_star : <https://www.chasing.com/chasing-dory.html>

[2019-11-27 18:01:22] borillion_star : <https://fccid.io/2AMOD-DORY/Internal-Photos/Int-Photos-4511953.pdf>

[2019-11-27 18:02:00] borillion_star : @jcase This was what I was tweeting about. :stuck_out_tongue:

[2019-11-27 18:02:14] jcase : @jcase has joined the channel

[2019-11-27 18:02:44] jcase : Nice

[2019-11-28 15:11:18] pingspike : guy in Lancashire, UK is selling a Mavic Mini flymore combo (so CE edition), bought from Heliguy, 1.8hrs usage most of which was indoors, £310 - let me know if you want me to put you in touch

[2019-12-03 00:19:01] andrwho25 : anyone try something like this? <https://www.amazon.com/Professional-Release-Fishing-Delivery-Activities/dp/B07JR7RLYD>

[2019-12-03 00:19:10] andrwho25 : I’m tempted to try and fish with it

[2019-12-03 14:34:44] paul.willis : I use this with my mavic pro and it works great. [https://dronefishing.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiArJjvBRACEiwA-Wiqq1BBaXWwT9ixil2wvyVdBJf8fjbTHkVb1-XNu6Yqm218t9Ct2oznUhoCHNMQAvD_BwE](https://dronefishing.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiArJjvBRACEiwA-Wiqq1BBaXWwT9ixil2wvyVdBJf8fjbTHkVb1-XNu6Yqm218t9Ct2oznUhoCHNMQAvD_BwE)

[2019-12-05 02:06:26] papareproductora :

[2019-12-05 02:07:14] papareproductora : My mavic, back to action.

[2019-12-05 02:14:13] papareproductora :

[2019-12-05 02:15:07] papareproductora : I've done a very curious adaptor for my phone today. I hope it works. If it does, I will be uploading a very risky set of videos.

[2019-12-05 20:20:55] fredmicrowave : Fwiw <https://interestingengineering.com/7-anti-drone-weapons-used-by-the-military-and-law-enforcement-around-the-world>

[2019-12-07 17:52:03] cantrepeat : Ha! I'm getting spammed from my own business! Russian Beauty <[31189867@xxxxxxxx.vip](mailto:31189867@xxxxxxxx.vip)> Tired of being alone? Find your perfect match

[2019-12-20 15:36:07] d95gas : <https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/50812216>

[2019-12-23 16:29:52] b1tninja : <https://thepracticaldev.s3.amazonaws.com/i/30yc5vq8qjdmjis1ch8k.jpeg> im in love

[2019-12-23 17:36:46] quad808 : ring. taken. Nope.

[2019-12-23 17:40:30] pross : fat wrists

[2019-12-23 22:36:37] b1tninja : god dammit

[2019-12-23 22:36:46] b1tninja : crush my dreams

[2019-12-24 01:23:16] quad808 :

[2019-12-24 02:41:08] timlewis40 : does anyone have a ImmersionRC RF Power Meter v2?

[2019-12-24 10:03:53] validat0r : Merry Christmas guys

[2019-12-25 03:38:59] originaldobo007 : Same to you! @ilovemynexus4 - if I change the parameter to a non DJI battery- will it still auto-discharge at the days I specify in GO?

[2019-12-25 09:32:27] cantrepeat : @quad808 I'd more worried about the crazy eyes!!

[2019-12-25 18:15:59] quad808 : She is not RUSSIAN. Dang.

[2019-12-25 22:53:48] timlewis40 : my question is do you have to calibrate the Internal attenuator? to show the right reading? sounds like i have to?

[2019-12-26 13:37:34] chipmangini : @akbardotinfo I had one but gave it to a member here, but here's the manual: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MHtkZg81mqF2xibuO7tHb-OH-l9ib3NImpGnRQWFtBo/edit>

[2019-12-27 03:36:32] monkeyman : I dont calibrate it :smile:

[2019-12-27 04:46:25] timlewis40 : ohhh does it show correct reading when its hooked direct or when using the antenna?

[2019-12-27 04:47:45] timlewis40 : sound like it has to be

[2019-12-27 04:47:56] timlewis40 : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=apfJhlOCgaI&feature=emb_logo>

[2020-01-02 20:48:42] validat0r : <https://www.denverpost.com/2019/12/27/mystery-drones-colorado-conspiracy-theories/>

[2020-01-07 05:09:56] lolo780 : Aliens

[2020-01-07 09:24:00] fstephan1 : Worse, human people!

[2020-01-07 13:12:45] fredmicrowave : I really don´t understand all the fuzz about drones flying. They are doing their thing, that´s all, no harm. And i am soooo happy the local authorities are urging people " not to shot them down". This is just like if all the news where talking about people "walking around in the streets with no known purpose", and authorities urging people not to shot them down...

[2020-01-08 00:09:01] bobdole : autel evo 2 8k camera looks gimped... seems to be throwing out shadow data and even their promotional video shows artifacts in the shadows... how disappointing.

[2020-01-08 00:09:16] bobdole : hopefully the 1" 6k sensor will be better

[2020-01-08 03:01:46] b1tninja : I think it's weird whoever it is hasn't come forward though

[2020-01-08 03:02:05] b1tninja : Maybe it's just psyops to pass legislation lol

[2020-01-08 06:04:28] bobdole : probably testing something out and its opsec. someone probably has a night waiver

[2020-01-08 06:05:02] bobdole : if they were really up to no good, they wouldn't need strobes

[2020-01-08 06:06:13] bobdole : douchebag-calling-into-faa: what are these UAVs doing in the sky ? FAA: i dunno douchebag: THE FAA DOESNT EVEN KNOW MAN

[2020-01-08 22:29:51] b1tninja : Supposedly they flew some plane with infrared to investigate, guessing to look for bodies lol. They would need waiver to control multiple too iirc

[2020-01-08 23:29:22] dkovar : There are a lot of DOD bases in the region. FBI: We're investigating. Random idiot: The FBI doesn't know what is going on! FBI: Do you really think we'd tell you? The people that need to know, know.

[2020-01-09 00:08:31] b1tninja : Having worked in the gov sector I think you have way too much faith in the system haha :p

[2020-01-09 08:18:56] nopcode : wait is the autel 6k sensor supposed to be BETTER than the 8k?

[2020-01-09 08:20:45] nopcode : ohh. i see.

[2020-01-09 11:15:47] chipmangini : @nopcode Yeah, 6K=1" sensor & adjustable aperture, 8K=1/2" sensor

[2020-01-09 15:11:40] bobdole : straight from the mouth of their rep at CES: 6k 20mp "couple hundred dollars more" than the pleb 8k $1,495 i think specs are a mavic 2 stomper.... and 35min hover WWAAT??? i'm interested, but need to know more about this pro sensor as it seems like a gimped mavic 2 pro sensor without the hassleblad color science which i like <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgXa8MuU2Sk>

[2020-01-09 16:43:44] originaldobo007 : This needs to be truly tested but some of the early testers said that it doesn’t get anywhere near the advertised flight time and the range is very interference prone so it actually doesn’t go that far. Interesting times...

[2020-01-09 17:01:14] bobdole : hard to compete with !dji when everything is made in china and chinese daddy is paying for 90% of your bills

[2020-01-09 17:12:46] quad808 : Yep, more technical reviews needed for a better, complete picture

[2020-01-09 17:13:54] quad808 : we need to get one in the hands of @lowellfoo780 to do a range test...LOL

[2020-01-09 20:18:14] lolo780 : Yes

[2020-01-10 00:43:02] d51 : EVO2 8k, but Rec.709

[2020-01-10 17:35:24] b1tninja : you know the little dome to protect the gimbal and camera, does anyone sell like a polarized one or fisheye lens... also where the fuck are the stereoscopic drones (two camera)

[2020-01-10 18:00:41] fredmicrowave : I made steresocopic experiments years ago, and built a camera system that switched between 2 cameras and synchronized it with FPV googles. At very close range the immersion was great, but the conclusion is that there is no point in making stereo vision, as soon as distance gets over a couple tenths of meters, it makes no difference. Now, it may be useful, or maybe a fantastic game changer for drone racing, but I am not into that ...

[2020-01-10 18:02:38] b1tninja : the 3d effect would be really neat though :x could be cool for making 3d models of environments too? though lidar would probably be better

[2020-01-10 18:03:48] b1tninja : did you use something like oculus daydream etc

[2020-01-10 18:15:50] bobdole : i have a pentax stereo adapter that is for camera lenses, but it seems totally doable for a mavic with a counterweight. i have a nice old metal one but this one looks plastic... could probably even 3d print it and you just need mirrors <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Lukai_Zheng/publication/306320706/figure/fig2/AS:405636492873729@1473722684751/A-Pentax-stereo-adaptor.png>

[2020-01-10 18:41:22] b1tninja : how does this work does it have something that switches between the two and you just deinterlace them or something, or is it maybe something like a fresnel lens with some filters

[2020-01-10 18:41:49] b1tninja : and if its active, how does that sync up with the refresh rate and what not heh

[2020-01-10 18:48:53] bobdole : the stereo adapter just splits the image into 2 side by side photos and you can use something like google cardboard viewer to see in 3d.. pretty simple

[2020-01-10 18:49:35] b1tninja : Ah ok

[2020-01-10 20:45:10] fredmicrowave : The distance between lenses is important. I used two cameras and a switching circuit between the two video sources. I don´t remember how sync was done at the receiver side. I think the googles managed that, as long as frequency was correctly adjusted... I still have this thing somewhere...

[2020-01-12 19:23:24] nopcode : As you said, wouldnt you need a couple meters separation between the lenses / entry points to get practical stereo perception at usual landscape shot drone distances?

[2020-01-12 19:23:29] nopcode : seems impractical

[2020-01-12 19:23:51] nopcode : one thing that would be interesting is taking a picture, flying a few meters sideways and taking another one

[2020-01-12 19:23:52] nopcode : hmmm

[2020-01-12 19:24:01] nopcode : then you could get arbitrarily large parallax

[2020-01-12 22:40:33] hazardc : yeah, I've wanted to do stereoscopic shots but you really need GCPs from my short experience when i was playing with metashape.

[2020-01-12 22:47:07] hazardc : If the evo 2 lives up to hype i might be ditching the p4p,,, DJI should have had easy to swap cameras by now, especially stuff like FLIR/NIR/IR/NDVI and Autel's thermal camera is as good as a f'n xt2

[2020-01-13 00:24:16] originaldobo007 : Only issue right now is I heard the range is shit

[2020-01-13 00:24:37] originaldobo007 : They claim incredible range but in practice it seems garbage

[2020-01-13 01:24:27] b1tninja : wouldn't like human eyeball separation be ideal

[2020-01-13 01:29:50] b1tninja : re swapping cameras their code is all compiled for specific sensors and what not, would need to compile the kernel module and stuff

[2020-01-13 17:32:38] nopcode : @hazardc GCPs? metashape?

[2020-01-13 18:10:38] hazardc : yeh

[2020-01-13 20:03:18] fredmicrowave : I am not sure to understand the discussion: Stereoscopic images from an object far away are useless, as the two parallel images have virtually no difference. Ground Control Points are used by our brain to reconstruct the stereoscopic image, so i am not sure what you mean with the GCP´s. Photogrammetry software recreate them too, to build 3D images.

[2020-01-13 20:51:58] bobdole : i guess it would be easier to use pix4d or dronedeploy

[2020-01-13 20:52:14] bobdole : and take 500 images

[2020-01-13 20:57:53] chipmangini : @jacksphone Or the new kid on the block: <https://www.dronelink.com/>

[2020-01-13 21:04:26] bobdole : @chipmangini whats the resolution on the 3d models? i manually fly and add photos to get under .4in/pixel

[2020-01-13 21:05:32] bobdole : i like the idea of actually autonomously having the damn drone actually change elevation to make that easier on me.. but i wouldn't trust it to fly between trees like i usually do

[2020-01-13 21:05:42] chipmangini : I have no idea yet. I just found out about it as few days ago, and the weather's been shit...:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

[2020-01-13 21:11:51] chipmangini : @jacksphone If you're on FB, take a lQQk at this: <https://www.facebook.com/DronelinkHQ/photos/a.438943220167308/556338071761155/?type=3&theater>

[2020-01-13 23:19:02] fredmicrowave : This is the result of the first test I made with Zephyr 3D. But no autonomous flight plan ...

[2020-01-14 00:01:12] quad808 : AND that took how many days to print?

[2020-01-14 00:35:16] bobdole : that better be a cake on its way to me overnight

[2020-01-14 03:47:35] fredmicrowave : lol, i wish it was cake. Took about 6 hours to print but a lot more to compute on a good PC, like 12+ hours iirc. Zephyr outputs a .stl ready to print, but while some details are amazing (like the door steps) considering that it comes directly from aerial photos, it would look much better with some editing, and closer range shots.

[2020-01-14 03:50:52] hazardc : They're not useless. I work in a geospatial lab and use stereoscopic aerial images from the 1960s' ALL THE TIME!!!

[2020-01-14 03:52:38] hazardc : Whoa... That's what i wish metashape was

[2020-01-14 03:55:05] hazardc : What kind of PC? I have multiple dual xenon with RTX 2080ti

[2020-01-14 12:18:28] fredmicrowave : Oh ok, I meant in practice, for flying with drones. If 3d reconstruction of terrain is needed, at the "amateur" level I suppose we would better use photogrammetry. From your experience, do you know what is the relation between distance from each picture, to target, to get a useful result ?

[2020-01-14 12:20:42] fredmicrowave : Like a telescope, there should be relation between virtual diameter and resolution...

[2020-01-14 13:49:51] fredmicrowave : Nothing crazy, I7 6700 quad and GTX1060 6Gb

[2020-01-14 15:10:04] elintnl : here some nice add on's for Litchi users

[2020-01-14 15:10:07] elintnl : <https://www.wesbarris.com/drone/spiral.php>

[2020-01-15 01:10:02] hazardc : Yeah same thing i'm on right now. works well still (only difference is i have an 8th gen i7) That's the time frame i would expect it to take on this computer. Not bad actually.

[2020-01-15 01:12:29] hazardc : Thanks!!! I wasn't sure that thing was going to clear all the low altitude stuff! Are there more tools on this site? Do you use metashape?

[2020-01-15 01:16:31] hazardc : that droneception shot looks useful as well. I actually have a use for that -- and I rarely use my drones for photos that aren't for 3d models lol.

[2020-01-18 08:03:05] nopcode : people keep claiming new li-ion batteries only develop their full capacity after a few charge cycles. that's not true, is it?

[2020-01-18 10:03:55] hazardc : There might be some truth to it

[2020-01-18 10:06:36] hazardc : I do a lot of work with 18650 batteries and recycling them out of old laptops and stuff... even newer ones, I run a NOR test once (fully charge, drain at 1C, fully recharge again) ... I do it to them one time when i get them and note the capacity (mah) then put them away for a week. I run them one more time after that, and they usually have a decent amount more capacity after the second full cycle --- and they hold onto it.

[2020-01-18 12:01:58] nopcode : hmm

[2020-01-21 02:48:24] dnacho : Hi, does anyone have the 1.11.30 p3p firmware that fixes the esc problem

[2020-01-21 04:26:35] hazardc : you can find the slack but not the firmware lol damn

[2020-01-21 08:50:56] buundy : I have it, later I can upload

[2020-01-21 20:26:52] dnacho : It's a "peer request" firmware, dji did not release it to the public

[2020-01-21 20:27:20] dnacho : Thanks @buundy I found it on phantompilots but it did not fix my problem

[2020-01-21 20:27:44] dnacho : On the Dat file it shows on status the number 19

[2020-01-22 11:31:03] cs2000 : Youve already had the correct answer, its literally in !DDD

[2020-01-22 18:47:20] digdat0 : @pabloiarriola roll back to fw version 1.10 .. 1.11 causes the ESC error, 1.10 will make it resolved.

[2020-01-22 18:47:37] digdat0 : DDD has the 1.10 firmware for DL

[2020-01-23 17:32:25] dnacho : Yes I did that but it still gave an esc error. I rolled back to 1.10 and still had the error

[2020-01-27 17:02:32] fredmicrowave : New low-noise props from MA : Improvement seems great dor M2 ... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_0r3PrftK8&t=56s>

[2020-01-27 17:14:40] pross : I have a set of those on the way

[2020-01-27 17:15:07] clauto : When were they released? I was trying to youtube comparison vids on them, nothing around yet

[2020-01-27 17:17:33] pross : yea very recent, like within a week

[2020-01-27 17:19:52] clauto : I like the orange props in the video, its very distinguishable and easy to spot,. the blue was my first choice, but thinking about it in the sky might blend too much..

[2020-01-27 17:22:06] pross : i got the blue

[2020-01-27 17:22:34] clauto : do you have a tracking number? or ETA?

[2020-01-27 17:24:23] pross : i have a tracking number but i only ordered saturday.. so they will probably be shipped today then its up to the postal gods

[2020-01-27 17:24:33] clauto : wondering if you know where it’s shipping from

[2020-01-27 17:25:13] pross : only says label created so far, i will let you know where its handed over if you like, its USPS

[2020-01-27 17:25:39] clauto : sure sounds good

[2020-01-27 17:26:14] clauto : ahh looks like they are in Cali ```Windsor Propeller LLC 3219 Monier Circle, Rancho Cordova, CA 95742, United States```

[2020-01-27 17:27:31] pross : thats an extra day for my delivery then, sometimes its 36H to the UK.. the other day i had a first class international from west coast.. a gimbal in fact.. took 3 weeks nearly :confused:

[2020-01-27 17:27:50] pross : and then I had to pony up $100 for duty

[2020-01-27 17:28:46] clauto : everytime I ship usps to canada it takes so much longer then it should.. the hand off from usps to canadapost takes like 3-4days before it continues on route.. so contemplating the extra 11$ for UPS and one carrier taking it door to door

[2020-01-27 17:29:31] pross : i’d pay the $11

[2020-01-27 17:31:36] clauto : ordered :stuck_out_tongue: w/ups. Might even be here by end of week

[2020-01-27 17:32:17] clauto : I needed new props anyways!

[2020-01-27 17:33:04] pross : nice :slightly_smiling_face: bet yours arrive quicker than mine

[2020-01-27 17:33:39] clauto : I bet they will im very close to california

[2020-01-27 18:29:21] fredmicrowave : I ordered them this week-end too, already got a tracking nr, but no tracking yet. As intention is stealth (by definition), I chose black. Will take weeks to arrive.

[2020-01-27 18:30:59] fredmicrowave : Comparative video was released today, before i could find nothing for M2, but the mini tests where looking good.

[2020-01-27 18:32:57] fredmicrowave : Shipping label created in Rancho Cordova, CA

[2020-01-27 18:38:19] pross : Hopefully mine will arrive just before the three days of summer.

[2020-01-27 20:13:06] clauto : In case anyone else is interested. My order from 2 hours ago just got a ups tracking # assigned

[2020-01-27 20:39:36] bobdole : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meJ0Whgc6RU&t=303s>

[2020-01-27 20:39:41] bobdole : garage test... oooh <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-mv7BXNvEI>

[2020-01-27 20:46:05] bobdole : oh yeah.... well mine from 10 minutes ago just got a tracking number

[2020-01-27 20:47:35] bobdole : i went for stealth by choosing white

[2020-01-27 21:42:23] b1tninja : rancho cordova is 15 minuts from me

[2020-01-28 22:11:11] clauto : Mine will show up this thursday :slightly_smiling_face: but after import fees they are coming to about 80$

[2020-01-28 23:30:24] bobdole : did you pay extra for expedited shipping?

[2020-01-29 18:21:37] clauto : yea it was 9.99 flat rate to canada, I paid 20 to ups it

[2020-01-29 18:26:53] pross : Mine are resting in Reddin, CA

[2020-01-29 18:27:03] pross : watering horses etc

[2020-01-30 12:03:17] fredmicrowave : Mine have left the US this morning ...

[2020-01-30 16:20:58] clauto : mine will arrive today, or did arrive in my city 2 hours ago

[2020-01-30 18:08:37] bobdole : anybody near seattle? some guy came back from china with that coronavirus through there on wednesday

[2020-01-30 18:09:12] bobdole : of course i was in seatac on thursday and friday yay

[2020-01-30 19:06:01] clauto : I am pretty close to seattle, one ferry away

[2020-01-30 19:10:10] bobdole : its coming for you on the ferry right now.. i can see the guy coughing

[2020-01-30 19:44:24] clauto : my props just arrived

[2020-01-30 19:46:23] clauto : tiny box

[2020-01-30 19:46:23] clauto :

[2020-01-30 20:47:44] b1tninja : do they have similar thrust/lift seems odd that dji would not have done better in that area heh

[2020-01-30 21:52:36] bobdole : i got mine and tried them out. i take off full throttle so i wasn't like WOAH IS THIS THING ON?! or anything... but buzzing around at 300+ ft up was noticeably quieter and what really struck me was how quiet it was on landing

[2020-01-30 21:59:08] quad808 : I have them on my Mavic Pro and they are good performers.

[2020-01-30 22:02:06] bobdole : i had them on mavic pro also and it was lower pitch, but these seem like they have some barely perceptible design improvement

[2020-01-30 22:02:43] bobdole : for the cost there's absolutely no reason to buy DJI's props now

[2020-01-30 22:07:49] clauto : @justincapella Master Airscrew has been making props for over 30 years.. that is all they do.. long before DJI was around.. I can see how their expertise could produce a higher quality prop, Also I think the Dji props are more balanced and optimized for low speeds while the MAS claims to shine in sport mode and higher altitudes , but increased flight time speaks for itself, overall efficiency improvements

[2020-01-30 22:15:05] clauto : I installed them and started er up on my lunch, hover feels super stable, one thing I noticed right away after a short hover.. once they are extended (spinning position) they are much harder/stiffer to collapse back to folded packable state. Noise did seem higher frequency (less rumble)

[2020-02-04 16:25:47] pross : Mine are arriving tomorrow, I had to pay $17 VAT and handling, so thats a total of $61 for one set to the UK

[2020-02-04 16:35:57] fredmicrowave : Mine are only "being processed by customs" ... If Customs based their taxes on merchandise costs only, as it should, it would be more fair. (Threshold here is around 22€ ) . But they add shipping to the total value :rage: ...

[2020-02-04 16:46:46] pross : well in fairness the VAT was only about 4 pounds, then they added 8 pounds handling.

[2020-02-04 23:48:06] mel69hash : Got mine last weekend and I can say its definitely a noticeable difference. Low rpm on hover and more responsive to stick move. Had one on MP too for a long while. Best 3rd party props out there. I can say I'll be using MAS all the way for mavic.

[2020-02-05 17:15:25] quad808 : Just a little rant about Ebay and Paypal. I recently sold the Skydio 2 that I bought, and didn't use. Brand new in box. Tidy profit. F'ing Ebay held the payment for about a month. Finally released the funds.

[2020-02-05 17:26:01] clauto : did you sell it above retail?

[2020-02-05 18:13:25] oakley75 : That's messed up, what was their logic behind holding the funds? Price shouldn't matter right

[2020-02-05 18:39:05] validat0r : As seller you pay E-Pal for having you get fucked with.

[2020-02-05 21:52:57] oakley75 : Touche

[2020-02-06 18:05:57] bobdole : oh and then they'll hit you with the invoice for their exorbitant fees

[2020-02-06 18:06:05] bobdole : 2-3 weeks later

[2020-02-06 18:51:43] quad808 : Just an update. I had a coupon at the start of the year to sell on Ebay for NO FEES. I haven't sold anything on ebay in like forever, so activated the coupon, then sold the item for around $600 profit. Ebay took no cut, because of the coupon, but they were going to take 10%. Saved me over $200. Paypal took a fee though. Ebay held the payment, since it was a high priced item and I haven't sold anything for a long time. They are still scum. Won't be selling on ebay again.

[2020-02-06 18:55:05] bobdole : after a while you can get your money instantly. if i sell something for $40, i'll just do the instant transfer and let paypal have an extra $0.40 i get the cash within minutes of the sale

[2020-02-06 18:56:41] bobdole : still.. i can sell something on ebay for $1100 that mavicpilots users will swear is only worth $700 .. so buy on mavic pilots and sell on ebay

[2020-02-06 19:54:19] validat0r : True that ..

[2020-02-07 00:02:59] quad808 : @jacksphone Thanks, good to know.

[2020-03-01 14:28:21] d95gas : Question to put out there to the OG and the RE Experts. Have any of you looked at the Parrot Anafi? Reason I ask, they seemed to have been very proactive in trying to ensure we abide by country regs and forcing CE users to stay on CE channels. FakeGPS/VPN's are totally ignored. we believe the last firmware 1.64 did something to the Anafi to lock it to CE mode, so now left with trying to find a way to rollback the firmware, but on hours of searching, I have not come across anyone who has been successful in rolling back any Parrot firmware for various drones. They must have an in-house facility even if its for R&D, otherwise they would be constantly shooting themselves in the foot. Maybe another opportunity for the O.G & NLD..... would give another Income stream as I know many of the Parrot users are desperate for this ability. I decompiled an "In-House" APK file they accidentally released to the public, and it does contain the firmware files from that period of time, but my skill set in this area is very limited. The simplest thought would be to rename the firmware in this APk to higher than what is currently installed, compile the APK and fingers crossed. But I dont think it would be as simple as that.

[2020-03-02 05:52:43] b1tninja : nsfw <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjrWizM9iLM>

[2020-03-03 09:38:41] validat0r : Happy super tuesday

[2020-03-03 09:40:04] validat0r : @d95gas @ender did some work on the anafi back in the days

[2020-03-03 13:05:26] trulala69 : Out of curiosity: What did you work on?

[2020-03-03 14:13:40] d95gas : At the time is was changing the country code to USA to allow us unfortunate enough to be in a CE country, to fly as if we were in FCC giving better range

[2020-03-03 19:30:44] trulala69 : Did you find any solution for your Anafi yet?

[2020-03-04 18:33:48] 503496897 : Who has firmware 1.7.7.0 for a3？

[2020-03-04 19:07:45] cantrepeat : !ddd

[2020-03-07 14:17:28] mefisto : I wish more fonts supported the dick char, "?". Would be useful, especially because many forums make your default profile image from first character of user name..

[2020-03-09 21:51:31] cantrepeat : And it’s made worse when their avatar upload script fails and you’re stuck with the lame default one.

[2020-03-10 00:10:21] bobdole : anybody pre-order a hubsan zino 2 for $399 back when it was on sale

[2020-03-10 00:10:21] bobdole : ?

[2020-03-10 16:03:13] cantrepeat : There is a leaked KGB document confirming the corona virus is a bio agent weaponized by the CIA and deployed in North Korea to weaken Kim's political influence in Asia. However, the CIA failed to predict the lack of news coming out of North Korea to the rest of Asia. An unnamed sourced from the CIA was report as saying, "the secondary outbreak in China was just an added bonus." /s

[2020-03-10 16:11:27] cam : @catalinaskirace sauce?

[2020-03-10 16:12:37] cantrepeat : @cam mostly on BBQ but sometimes on steak.

[2020-03-10 16:33:20] mefisto : Just waiting for my pork tenderolin in pepper sauce.

[2020-03-10 16:34:37] validat0r : bbq season already? love it

[2020-03-10 16:38:45] cantrepeat : well, if you're gonna get the corona you might as well sauce it up!

[2020-03-10 16:41:57] cantrepeat : You know, of course, once the CIA got hacked then they would have to start fake news damage control so they just released this, confirmed by snoops as 100% legit - There is a leaked CIA document confirming the corona virus is a weaponized bio agent developed in North Korea and was deployed in China as retaliation for new trade restrictions. /s

[2020-03-10 17:07:31] fredmicrowave : Any ETA for MI6 release in Italy ?

[2020-03-10 17:08:19] cantrepeat : "Sauces" say just as soon as they lift the quarantine on the entire nation.

[2020-03-10 17:09:10] fredmicrowave : Must be Bolognese then ...

[2020-03-10 17:09:53] cantrepeat : yeah, that bolognese guy always has the inside scoop!

[2020-03-10 17:54:48] cantrepeat : There is a newly leaked secret document by a group called fartbox that clearly confirms the corona virus was developed and weaponize by millennials in the state of Texas and deployed in the United States under an operation code name "anti boomers bomming" project.

[2020-03-10 19:15:53] quad808 : As long as it doesn't target Russion Brides, NLD will be A-OK!

[2020-03-10 19:33:30] mefisto : Theres a new diverse thumbs up icon? I wonder if the old one is still available... :kuklux-thumb:

[2020-03-10 19:34:37] mefisto : Hm, probably has different name

[2020-03-10 19:34:54] cantrepeat : is there an alt+ code for that dick font?

[2020-03-10 19:35:31] cantrepeat : I want to change mine mine on the freeNAS forum

[2020-03-10 19:35:54] b1tninja : lol

[2020-03-10 19:35:59] b1tninja : copy and paste the char maybe

[2020-03-10 19:36:11] b1tninja : theres website that will show the unicode char info

[2020-03-10 21:06:59] mefisto : google "EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPH D052"

[2020-03-11 18:06:42] dmedvor :

[2020-03-12 18:10:42] cantrepeat : @jacksphone boomers boomin!! lol

[2020-03-12 19:19:56] cantrepeat : They figure once they KO the boomers prices on old muscle cars will come down!!

[2020-03-12 23:10:40] bobdole : solves the social security funding problem.

[2020-03-12 23:11:14] bobdole : i guess biden will get credit for that budget surplus... if he survives

[2020-03-14 14:02:10] cantrepeat : Anyone else think Weird Al should so a My Corona parody? Or is it still too soon?

[2020-03-14 14:05:58] chipmangini : @catalinaskirace I think we could all use a little laughter over this! :+1::rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

[2020-03-14 14:31:21] oakley75 : Too soon? Now his moment! Love that guy :+1:

[2020-03-15 13:34:19] chipmangini : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=l9Rt8eh8_zU&feature=emb_logo>

[2020-03-15 13:39:06] d95gas : very neat

[2020-03-16 18:09:57] mefisto : There weren't many people in the office today. And since someone jokingly cough in the hall, I have the whole floor just for me. Finally can go get coffee with no risk of human interaction. I wouldn't mind if this would last longer.

[2020-03-16 18:10:27] b1tninja : lol we got told that someone in the building is suspected of having it

[2020-03-16 18:10:53] b1tninja : which would suggest they're already symptomatic and had been contagious for awhile =x

[2020-03-16 18:13:13] mefisto : They can quarantine me, as long as I have a PC with Ida Pro.

[2020-03-16 18:13:55] b1tninja : I don't think my life would change at all if quarantined lmao

[2020-03-16 18:42:06] dkovar : I closed our office down today. Felt -very- weird.

[2020-03-16 18:51:56] d95gas : its really a very odd time for the world, in my 60+yrs on this mortal earth I have never seen anything like this, its like a "Living dream". We are shutting our main head offices on Tuesday and Wednesday for 24hrs to force everyone to work from home, to ensure they have the tools necessary to carry on when eventually we are forced to shut down. Sad times for everyone, and I hope everyone on here takes care and gets through it unscathed.:+1:

[2020-03-16 18:52:38] d95gas : Hopefully NLD team will have time on their hands :grin:

[2020-03-16 19:11:21] b1tninja : with schools being closed and stuff I imagine a lot of people need to wfh, office closure makes sense

[2020-03-16 19:14:54] mefisto : My kinds are now at home. wfh = nothing done for me. I need a bigger flat.

[2020-03-16 19:19:10] b1tninja : no electronic baby sitters?

[2020-03-16 19:44:50] mefisto : Not a bad idea. My electric keeper isn't used for cattle during the winter. Much cheaper solution than a new home.

[2020-03-16 20:25:37] cantrepeat : add in hex-rays and you never have to leave, not even for toilet paper

[2020-03-16 21:21:04] quad808 : someone drone me in some toilet paper, have to take a crap

[2020-03-16 22:26:14] mefisto : In Poland, people are buying noodles, cans, root veggies and other long expiry food. No point in hoarding these as well. But it looks like we do have different priorities. Maybe we still remember the times when food was rationed by food stamps, as most of our production was exported to Russia.

[2020-03-16 22:32:03] lolo780 : People here in Vancouver bought all the toilet paper

[2020-03-16 22:32:40] clauto : lol over here in Victoria too. :joy: third grocery store I tried had some

[2020-03-16 22:45:46] pross : Here in the UK, its toilet rolls.. pasta .. and tuna fish ..?

[2020-03-16 22:55:13] cantrepeat : @mefisto by export you mean stolen?

[2020-03-16 22:56:41] cantrepeat : I didn't buy a lot of toilet paper, mostly frozen food items.

[2020-03-16 22:56:53] cantrepeat : and a little extra meat to freeze.

[2020-03-16 22:58:02] mefisto : No no, not stealing.. it was the friendly trade. Yes, definitely trade. We were exporting food to the point where only vinegar was available in shops. And we were getting back the more important things, like.. paint. Big train transports full of paint.

[2020-03-16 22:59:38] cantrepeat : food for paint, fair trade for sure...

[2020-03-16 23:03:29] mefisto : Yeah, Russia always supported the countries in communistic block. What would be do without that paint.

[2020-03-16 23:04:40] mefisto : I have no idea why people from Moscow remember those times that fondly... they must have had no paint in there.

[2020-03-16 23:07:35] cantrepeat : I could see them protesting the lack of paint. Bad times.

[2020-03-16 23:56:29] bobdole : n95 masks what are they going for? i have a box of respirators

[2020-03-16 23:56:42] bobdole : one guy is trying to sell one for $1k another for $150

[2020-03-17 00:14:53] cantrepeat : with everyone's behavior atm you could trade them for gold

[2020-03-17 00:14:56] cantrepeat : sadly

[2020-03-17 00:42:33] htcohio : About 7.5 Billion people in the world. We need to manufacture 30 Billion Coronavirus test kits so that every single person is able to identify if they have it. the reason it's spreading so fast is that it can be spread from an individual who is not yet symptomatic. Also, it is airborne

[2020-03-17 00:43:24] b1tninja : testing is nice for statistics but probably just leading to more infections because infected people go to the place to get tested etc

[2020-03-17 00:43:44] htcohio : that's why the drive-thru testing is working so well and that's being done here in the USA now thank God

[2020-03-17 00:44:56] htcohio : But, the point is not going in to see someone, just manufacture an extraordinary amount of test kits then drop them from the air so that they just litter every street and rooftop.

[2020-03-17 00:45:12] b1tninja : what would the point be

[2020-03-17 00:45:36] htcohio : Self isolation to the best of our abilities.

[2020-03-17 00:46:26] b1tninja : meh, I'm more afraid of the hysteria

[2020-03-17 00:46:32] htcohio : Most people what avoid all contact with other people if they knew that they were infected with Coronavirus while not having any symptoms. Being contagious while not symptomatic is a major problem related to the exponential growth.

[2020-03-17 00:47:08] b1tninja : by the time people become symptomatic it's already too late

[2020-03-17 00:49:38] htcohio : Yeah, the goal is to identify people who have it but are not symptomatic you eliminate those people you isolate those people in their house for a couple of weeks unless they need a hospital and, numbers will decrease dramatically

[2020-03-17 00:49:50] htcohio : We could use drones to deliver supplies

[2020-03-17 00:50:55] htcohio : I think that the news and Hollywood movies make it seem like the whole world would fall into chaos but, I'm seeing all kinds of stories about groups of homeowners or neighbors working together to share supplies and provide help to anyone who needs it

[2020-03-17 00:53:11] htcohio : also, because the entire planet is affected by this, governments and financial institutions need to create a mechanism to either eliminate all rent, mortgages, car payments, insurance etc... For the next two to three months

[2020-03-17 00:54:06] quad808 : Lets take a step back. Its a type of FLU. Not Zombie apocalypse. Yes, if you have existing respitory problems and are old, you are at a higher risk, so take extra precautions. Everyone else? meh, use Flu precautions.

[2020-03-17 00:54:13] htcohio : If nobody from the poor people to the wealthiest billionaires have any monthly expenses other than food and medicine for a few months everyone should be able to recover.

[2020-03-17 00:54:44] htcohio : Its not like the flu, it's a similar type of virus but, it's completely new and unfamiliar to the human immune system

[2020-03-17 00:54:59] quad808 : yah, ok MR. Drama.

[2020-03-17 00:55:35] quad808 : calm down. Wash your hands. Take a load off and admire all the toilet paper you are hording.

[2020-03-17 00:57:05] htcohio :

[2020-03-17 00:59:17] htcohio : 2 young perfectly healthy doctors recently died in China. It is not just the old weak. I'm not panicking at all and you're right this is not anywhere near the worst virus you could catch but, it's spreads so fast that it has the potential to overwhelm hospitals.

[2020-03-17 01:00:24] b1tninja : i'm more concerned with the threats of martial law and such, if this is all it takes

[2020-03-17 01:01:08] quad808 : I want time off so I can fly my drones.

[2020-03-17 01:01:25] b1tninja : you might get it lol

[2020-03-17 01:01:41] htcohio : Me too!

[2020-03-17 02:33:06] originaldobo007 : It’s not “exclusively” the old and weak. But complications are “primarily” in the old and weak: [https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/covid-19-infografica_eng.pdf](https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/covid-19-infografica_eng.pdf) This explains the big difference between death rates in South Korea and Italy. The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people will be just fucking fine. The issue is that the old and weak will flood the healthcare system over capacity if they all get it at the same time. The point of “flattening the curve” is NOT to prevent everyone from getting it (it is likely that a million already have it). It is to prevent many from getting it at the SAME time. So apply some common sense: wash your fucking hands. Stay away from people for a couple weeks. And don’t fucking act like it’s the zombie apocalypse and hoard toilet paper. Because if you do- you are the asshole, not your butthole.

[2020-03-17 03:32:34] originaldobo007 :

[2020-03-17 14:38:38] bobdole : guys... WAKE UP

[2020-03-17 14:38:50] bobdole : we don't know what happens months later

[2020-03-17 14:39:26] bobdole : the 2%-10% that die might reanimate

[2020-03-17 14:40:53] bobdole : after the vultures have sold grandpa's house and fought over his corvette, he might want to come back and take it for a spin

[2020-03-17 18:08:45] pingspike : anyone heard anything recently on Evo II actual release dates? all I can find is "March" for the standard edition, nothing on the 6K Pro... :man-shrugging::skin-tone-3:

[2020-03-17 18:13:56] dkovar : Given supply chain problems, I'm certain that date will slip.

[2020-03-17 18:25:57] pingspike : yeah no doubt :pensive: just surprised at how uncommunicative Autel have been, I'd have expected it from DJI :face_with_rolling_eyes:

[2020-03-17 18:36:04] bobdole : do you trust captain drone

[2020-03-17 18:36:55] bobdole : end of march for 8k and end of april for 6k

[2020-03-17 19:30:25] bobdole : you guys see the news on stimulas checks?

[2020-03-18 00:14:37] originaldobo007 : Dji would be smart to say if you use a stimulus check on a drone they will give you an extra 15-20-% bonus credit.

[2020-03-18 02:15:07] quad808 : @originaldobo007 great video. I needed a good laugh today. Stress at work with all the stressed people without toilet paper.

[2020-03-18 02:16:37] quad808 : Please don't listen...EVER to our governor, State of Hawaii...he is a dufus and you will laugh.

[2020-03-18 12:10:05] erwin : I made a timer for my drones :stuck_out_tongue: <https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4228550> ported pidflight to esp32. It can track any 5.8ghz video signal

[2020-03-19 11:34:11] cantrepeat : anyone have a recommendation on a larger curved monitor? 30+ inches

[2020-03-19 12:45:23] originaldobo007 : Something large and 30"?.....

[2020-03-19 12:46:10] originaldobo007 :

[2020-03-19 14:03:05] b1tninja : I liked dell's ultrawide ips

[2020-03-19 14:58:47] bobdole : samsung $579 32" 2160p UR59C i'd do that over the dell ....

[2020-03-19 16:33:28] cantrepeat : yeah, don't need a 49" monitor

[2020-03-19 16:33:52] cantrepeat : I've seen a lot of bad reviews on some of the dells/alienware stuff.

[2020-03-20 23:38:27] b1tninja :

[2020-03-20 23:38:50] clauto : lmfao…. sooooo rediculous. where is that b1tn

[2020-03-20 23:40:59] b1tninja : trying to find out, saw it on reddit

[2020-03-20 23:41:13] b1tninja : oregeon

[2020-03-21 16:58:45] fredmicrowave : I just printed this small trophy, dedicated to all idiots buying tons of TP for no reason .

[2020-03-21 18:21:32] bobdole : yeah.. get a bidet plebs

[2020-03-21 19:20:30] validat0r : Hardware stores are closed. Does Amazon deliver?

[2020-03-21 22:37:36] bobdole : yeah if its already in their warehouse

[2020-03-22 11:47:56] d95gas : Zino 2 looks Interesting - 8Km Range - 4K 60fps and more: <https://www.hubsan.com/eur/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=672>

[2020-03-22 18:12:57] originaldobo007 : The video on that site is hilarious. They hired a native English speaker to narrate the video in nonsensical broken English with bad Google translations. On a different note - if they don't use dual bands, you get nowhere near 8km. In fact, in the video it says 6km, while their specs show otherwise.

[2020-03-22 18:13:44] originaldobo007 : Here's the funny video: <https://youtu.be/PNAfbKU1KY4>

[2020-03-22 18:44:20] d95gas : Yes did watch the video and have a chuckle..... But to be honest they cannot make any worse fiasco than Parrot had done with the Anafi over the last 4 updates. Taken it from a really good device that was great to use, to a pile of crap that everyone is too afraid to use because at the rate they are dropping out the sky. They must be employing programmers who are first grade at Junior school. Hence the look at the Zino 2.

[2020-03-22 20:41:09] originaldobo007 : I'm all for new and good competition. Evo 2 looks very promising, although I heard the real life range is still nowhere near Ocusync 2 since it is single band (2.4). But it's tracking and obstacle avoidance seem to be way better than the M2 series. And hopefully their 1" sensor beats the M2P. Soon enough we will have viable competition to Ocusync.

[2020-03-22 21:45:25] lolo780 : DJI will announce the M3 before autel even ships

[2020-03-22 22:27:21] bobdole : I can't imagine the DJI Mavic 3 being more appealing than the 1" 6k sensor equipped evo 2. with all the NFZs, ADSB, blahblah

[2020-03-22 22:27:35] bobdole : evo 2.. fine unless flying in china

[2020-03-22 23:23:48] quad808 : Autel started shipping the 8k model I believe

[2020-03-23 06:48:19] mel69hash : They hv requested to prepare for payment for Evo 2 8k. Waiting eagerly for email confirmation for Evo ll Pro.

[2020-03-23 17:11:58] bobdole : quad... did you buy a zino2?

[2020-03-23 19:30:30] d95gas : it was myself who was looking at the Zino 2 ...... Dont think I heard Quad808 discussing, although with his collection I would be surprised if there wasnt one on the horizon :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-03-23 23:01:34] cantrepeat : I'm so damn behind on shitz! Rooting amazon firestick 4k is so 2019!

[2020-03-24 19:57:53] quad808 : I am looking at it...Zino 2, but I have an EVO, and that camera is superior, so don't need the Zino 2. Heck, I am even re-thinking about going to the Evo II!

[2020-03-24 19:59:30] quad808 : From what I see the video tranmission back to the device on the Zino 2 leaves a lot of room for improvement. Camera does look good though! Is it altitude locked, or is it unlocked? I can't find documentation that says either way..

[2020-03-24 20:13:34] b1tninja : yeaaa the curved ips ultrawide doo it

[2020-03-24 20:54:48] chipmangini : @quad808 I'm looking at the Zino 2 as well, and from what I can see from from [this retailer](https://www.gearbest.com/promotion-hubsan-zino-2-special-2744.html?lkid=78069153) that max altitude is 500M.....

[2020-03-24 20:57:12] quad808 : :+1:

[2020-03-24 20:57:34] chipmangini : But no GeoFencing from what I can ascertain too, so that's a big plus. I can take my P4P into the clouds if I need to.....:+1::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

[2020-03-24 20:58:37] quad808 : Yah, geo fencing is the big one, and I agree. Who knows when all these restrictions are "forced" what it will do to the hobby.

[2020-03-24 21:04:32] chipmangini : How are you liking the Moverios?

[2020-03-24 23:01:02] quad808 : Dang...I have hardly used them at all. Been so busy lately!

[2020-03-24 23:13:37] cantrepeat : I want to GeoFence all the selfish fuckers that keep going around licking shit in stores.

[2020-03-24 23:31:14] quad808 : :angry:

[2020-03-25 00:41:19] originaldobo007 : Like this?

[2020-03-25 00:42:28] originaldobo007 : Or this?

[2020-03-27 19:24:21] b1tninja : in the US they were talking about requiring always-online

[2020-03-27 19:24:46] b1tninja : as part of the identification stuff--- and not allowing flight without

[2020-03-27 21:16:03] dkovar : That was in the NPRM. We'll see if it shows up in the final regulations.

[2020-03-28 13:17:58] chipmangini : Interesting read: <http://djibestdrones.com/dji-ocusync-2-0/?fbclid=IwAR2IJFNgyCES-BYybZKPdQmKDxl_AjI7lWw3RDRrfNcvbg5X4CVbx8TX5cA>

[2020-03-31 01:51:21] d51 : This site seems to be block access from abroad...( I can't read this article )

[2020-03-31 14:37:57] b1tninja : <https://web.archive.org/save/http://djibestdrones.com/dji-ocusync-2-0/?fbclid=IwAR2IJFNgyCES-BYybZKPdQmKDxl_AjI7lWw3RDRrfNcvbg5X4CVbx8TX5cA>

[2020-04-03 09:36:51] ben_lin : Imagine first responders out in the wild without 4g trying to search and rescue only to be told by the FAA to go fuck themselves

[2020-04-03 14:51:53] bobdole : you may say that Lin's a droner, but he's not the only one. i hope one day the world will join him

[2020-04-06 19:33:21] originaldobo007 : I found a dude who knew a dude who had an SD card from a drone which went up high.

[2020-04-06 19:44:03] mingtao : amazing

[2020-04-07 05:22:30] kbgroning : Looks like about 1500meter

[2020-04-07 08:25:06] validat0r : Thats where exactly?

[2020-04-07 17:34:47] originaldobo007 : I heard it was 2200m.

[2020-04-07 17:40:30] originaldobo007 :

[2020-04-07 17:44:33] originaldobo007 :

[2020-04-07 18:22:35] quad808 : Allegedly 2200m. Friend of a friend of a twice removed cousin.

[2020-04-07 18:23:45] b1tninja : do they have to do any modification to the force-landing, allowing extra tiem

[2020-04-07 18:36:35] originaldobo007 : I heard that in the config params you need to change battery to type 3 and also turn off auto landing.

[2020-04-07 18:36:59] b1tninja : ah lol seems risky

[2020-04-07 18:37:55] originaldobo007 : Well as long as you pay attention to the battery level its ok.

[2020-04-07 18:38:11] originaldobo007 : It requires very little battery in descent....at least that's what I heard.

[2020-04-07 18:38:23] b1tninja : hehe

[2020-04-07 18:39:07] originaldobo007 : I heard that descending at 8 or 9 m/s from 10,000ft may use less than 10% of battery.

[2020-04-07 18:40:31] quad808 : But, can't be confirmed unless you know the friend of the friend who has the twice removed cousin. Just sayin'

[2020-04-07 18:41:18] b1tninja : lol would be interesting to let it free fall and then spin up just in time

[2020-04-07 18:41:58] originaldobo007 : If friend of a friend of a cousin who knows a dude had a spare craft, I'm sure he'd do this. But doesn't want to risk anything on his P4P2 right now.

[2020-04-07 18:45:00] originaldobo007 : That guy's dream one day when there is a Mavic 4 or whatever is to keep the P4P2 as a spare. Then one day do a one-way flight....Upwards. Suicide altitude mission. Higher and higher until it can't go any further. Over the water so when it dies it falls to its death in the water. But to take it up and break the world record for a DJI high altitude flight. @lowellfoo780 is currently the King of High Altitude. Martyring this craft may be the only hope of achieving his already achieved accomplishments.

[2020-04-07 18:45:30] b1tninja : put a weather balloon on it

[2020-04-07 18:45:42] originaldobo007 : That would be cheating

[2020-04-07 18:45:50] b1tninja : =p

[2020-04-07 18:55:45] quad808 : That would be awesome...maybe it wouldn't be a one way ticket....you never know...gotta ask the dude's cousin, friend of a friend...if the friend of the friend who has the twice removed cousin, who knows a dude, started the flight from a mountain top?

[2020-04-07 19:00:32] originaldobo007 : Not a bad idea! Reminds me of the guy who took an AMAZING photo of Everest with a P4P a year or so ago.

[2020-04-07 19:00:33] originaldobo007 : <https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/2019/06/mount-everest-aerial-north-side-drone-photography/>

[2020-04-07 19:00:45] originaldobo007 : One of the most beautiful DJI pics ever.

[2020-04-07 19:00:47] originaldobo007 : IMO

[2020-04-07 19:29:28] kbgroning : With high temperature outside and no wind, a mpp could get insane high Iwas thinking of a lightweight carbon build with mpp electronics, put acro mode on it with a gimbal lock, non foldable props and then a high altitude dive without disarming should be possible without folding arms or props

[2020-04-07 19:48:29] originaldobo007 : Lolo is the king. he knows a guy who knows a guy who has a sister who used to date a guy who's roommate may have gone well above 35K feet with his MP.

[2020-04-07 19:55:52] originaldobo007 : Honestly incredible shot of Everest. Great article about it.

[2020-04-07 20:16:15] bobdole : yeah that definitely wasn't lolo himself since he likes to fly a phantom. here's a picture he posted with the p4p props cropped out <https://i.imgur.com/uog4Rkm.jpg>

[2020-04-07 20:27:49] quad808 : Modified. That means turning OFF stupid DJI forced restrictions.

[2020-04-07 21:09:27] originaldobo007 : Yep. DJI did that as a "favor" for the photographer.

[2020-04-07 21:09:42] originaldobo007 : Thanks!

[2020-04-08 00:31:44] b1tninja : has anyone made stuff for doing panoramas and stuff like that

[2020-04-08 00:31:54] b1tninja : or the sphereoids

[2020-04-08 00:32:24] b1tninja : also is anyone interested in working on warflying project

[2020-04-08 00:32:33] b1tninja : (wifi mapping)

[2020-04-08 07:59:28] heresmydron : did this with the mini

[2020-04-08 07:59:41] heresmydron : hows that related to wifi mapping?

[2020-04-08 16:35:39] b1tninja : oh it wasnt

[2020-04-08 16:35:44] b1tninja : 2 different ideas

[2020-04-08 16:36:03] b1tninja : but hey, that gives me a 3rd idea

[2020-04-08 16:36:31] b1tninja : would be neat to make low altitude aerials for like open-maps

[2020-04-08 18:49:48] heresmydron : oh yeah that would be really cool

[2020-04-08 18:50:02] heresmydron : ilegal if you dont have the permission, but cool nonetheless

[2020-04-08 20:08:31] b1tninja : you're probably right, i'm genuinely asking here: what about it would be illegal? photographing the private properties?

[2020-04-09 11:14:35] heresmydron : depends on the country but on most places going over 15m its illegal without authorization

[2020-04-09 11:14:51] heresmydron : in europe GDPR might be a pain in the neck as well

[2020-04-10 16:48:31] bobdole : i think the mavic air 2 announcements/leaks are timed very well with this stimulus

[2020-04-20 17:17:30] fredmicrowave : Looks like the Italian police opted for Anafi ... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kh2JJ8pjxU>

[2020-04-20 17:43:59] validat0r : yeah .. with a mask at the beach .. douche

[2020-04-20 17:44:42] validat0r : harassing a lonely guy with no one else in sight ..

[2020-04-20 17:44:48] d95gas : Lets hope they aint on 1.6.4/1.6.7 or updated their batteries recently, or they are in for a shock when it falls out of the sky :slightly_smiling_face: Anafi was/could be, but since firmware 1.6.3 they have made a totally screw up of the last 2 or 3 firmware releases, causing £1k's of damage to Anafi's. Couple of total losses on the Anafi thermal thanks to the battery update.

[2020-04-20 18:25:08] fredmicrowave : Really not the best example of police operation, about the mask tbh once wearing it you cannot touch it unless if it is for disposal. So no putting it in your pocket with your hand :smile:

[2020-04-20 23:22:04] quad808 : Saw a good video on disenfecting the mask...put it in a rice cooker for 3 min. No water and no rice. Heats up. Let it sit for 5 min. Done.

[2020-04-20 23:28:08] validat0r : if it's made of cotton just iron it

[2020-04-21 14:28:13] fredmicrowave : You must be referring to the US, cars in EU don´t have all that equipment :smile:

[2020-04-27 20:26:12] t3rm1 : Microwave is even easier

[2020-04-27 22:28:27] b1tninja : Do not microwave synthetic fibers

[2020-04-27 22:28:35] b1tninja : They will ignite

[2020-04-27 22:29:55] validat0r : maybe use lysol

[2020-04-27 22:53:50] b1tninja : Inject it

[2020-04-27 23:05:08] quad808 : eat it

[2020-04-28 00:18:26] originaldobo007 : Give it a lot of UV light.

[2020-05-11 14:16:42] validat0r : Always shut down your machine when leaving it alone: <https://thunderspy.io/>

[2020-05-11 19:54:11] validat0r : sky is falling down .. watch out <https://www.n2yo.com/?s=45601&live=1>

[2020-05-19 14:46:18] fredmicrowave : I suppose this is old news, but could be interesting : <https://www.banggood.com/Caddx-Vista-HD-Digital-System-5_8GHz-FPV-Transmitter-VTX-FOV-150-Degree-Camera-1080P-Recording-AIO-Compatible-DJI-FPV-Goggles-Remote-Controller-For-Small-Drones-Whoop-Airplane-p-1625165.html>

[2020-05-22 03:48:09] b1tninja : Interesting lkm patch regarding the handling of mappings of dev mem

[2020-05-22 03:50:19] b1tninja : Basically trying to prevent already open handles from reading io mapped regions with STRICTMEM

[2020-05-30 11:47:10] d95gas : Interesting Drone design involving Thales. Trials in the UK in remote parts of Scotland. The propeller layout is a little interesting. <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-52823590/drone-drops-off-isle-of-mull-coronavirus-masks>

[2020-05-30 19:16:26] abdo054 : [https://youtu.be/uexTqJGzFtE](https://youtu.be/uexTqJGzFtE)

[2020-05-30 21:15:59] validat0r : Is there footage of stage 1 landing? Wasn't on the live stream

[2020-05-30 21:29:34] dkovar : It was on the live stream until just before touchdown and then the feed returned with it on the pad. I suspect a hoax! (Or just the exhaust messed up the feed.)

[2020-05-30 21:33:43] validat0r : Yeah .. My thoughts exactly .. Have to check the clouds in the background. Stage one probably took a dive into the sea

[2020-05-30 21:38:36] dkovar : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT9U45ZKFWE>

[2020-05-31 02:09:49] fredmicrowave : It´s had to see here, but on the live feed I could see some change in lighting from the engine fire just before it cut off, so i believe it was the exhaust that messed up with the feed.

[2020-05-31 02:13:22] fredmicrowave : Clouds are OK too btw

[2020-05-31 10:48:07] dkovar : Here's the why of it: <https://youtu.be/hH75bVG7HBo?fbclid=IwAR2Z2Mlp47OkBhU8I63bUDsMsTzClTH3CrP0ZqJ0Q2SFz7sf4fqvT7dpES8>

[2020-06-02 19:42:38] irischnpak : Is there any solution in the wild that records your stick movements and plays them back so you can repeat some acro moves? Either via remote control or onboard the drone.

[2020-06-05 12:39:07] b1tninja : Heh some article about huawei ideas for a more secure internet.... Included ```features like a "shut-off" mechanism to stop denial of service attacks.```

[2020-06-05 12:59:18] flymymavic : @irischnpak if you can obtain any kind of flight log when flying then you can use something like dashware to view the stick movements, cant think of anything else you could use.

[2020-06-05 18:45:25] b1tninja : I guess they mean shut off the source, but it was funny to think that their solution to DoS was to kill service

[2020-06-05 20:42:34] pingspike : anyone know what happened to Titan Drones / Command Case? The guys who did the antenna mods? Site has gone :confused: <https://www.commandcase.com>

[2020-06-05 20:43:19] quad808 : The last I heard from them was due to the virus, they are going to re-launch or something like that

[2020-06-05 20:46:22] pingspike : oh cool, glad they're not gone, bought a few mods from them over the years :thumbsup::skin-tone-2:

[2020-06-06 20:39:16] chipmangini : @rich I just got some stuff from James the other day. He's revamping the site for some of the newer drones and equipment for them.....

[2020-06-06 20:48:09] pingspike : Is he also [covertdrones.com](http://covertdrones.com) ? :thinking_face:

[2020-06-06 22:11:47] digdat0 : No, James from Titan drones is different than covertdrones. Covert drones isa guy from Minnesota. I have not had good interactions with the covert drones guy. JAmes at titan is a top class guy imo

[2020-06-14 17:04:39] pingspike : You guys see the couple that were dragged through the media for allegedly flying a drone at Gatwick have just received a payout

[2020-06-14 17:04:50] pingspike : ‪Law firm Howard Kennedy will receive £145,000 for their legal costs Paul and Elaine Gait have been awarded just £55,000 in damages

[2020-06-14 17:05:18] pingspike : deets: [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-53041256](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-53041256)

[2020-06-14 17:05:36] pingspike : £55k... :disappointed:

[2020-06-14 17:16:51] d95gas : Trouble is, the Police keep jumping in with both feet without any real evidence. I guess their life was a nightmare after the arrest, hatemail, etc from disgruntled flyers, let alone what they would have put up with from their community. I think the police got away lightly with that one..... Its always the damn lawyers who come out top. Grrrrrr

[2020-06-14 17:56:49] david218 : > they did not possess any drones and had been at work during the reported sightings

[2020-06-14 17:56:51] david218 : ...what?

[2020-06-14 18:48:57] pingspike : the whole thing was a complete fucking farce @david218 and £55k compensation is just an insult

[2020-06-14 18:49:50] david218 : It sounds like one of their neighbours was upset they had RC planes a few years ago.

[2020-06-14 19:08:47] originaldobo007 : They should have gotten 5x that amount.

[2020-06-15 01:07:11] bobdole : should have been 145k for them and 55k for the lawyers if even that

[2020-06-15 01:07:26] bobdole : lawyers suck

[2020-06-15 01:07:58] bobdole : wish all the personal injury lawyers would simultaneously have their heads explode

[2020-06-15 01:08:03] bobdole : around the globe

[2020-06-15 01:08:21] bobdole : then we'd have a holiday celebrating exploding lawyer head day

[2020-06-19 01:03:45] zzb196773 : 如何降级飞行数据库呢？4p2.0

[2020-06-22 19:02:20] chipmangini : I wouldn't mind seeing this at the beach...... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONyUWirIWfk>

[2020-06-22 20:33:38] fredmicrowave : This is scary AF . No prop guards, and the drone operator, focused on the girl, that just forgot about the jet guy at 2:25 ....

[2020-06-22 20:52:00] ender : jep, close call....

[2020-06-23 09:35:13] elintnl : Is there a way to see what the wifi code is on the Spark? (not RC) label is erased on the Spark

[2020-06-23 10:40:59] flymymavic : Yeah turn on wifi and plug it into the assistant it show under wifi section

[2020-06-23 10:43:21] elintnl : thanks, i will try that

[2020-06-23 10:51:39] webhdx : I think if you got that styrofoam case with your Spark there is a sticker with default password as well

[2020-06-23 15:53:36] fredmicrowave : Pretty cool: <https://interestingengineering.com/us-army-awards-pocket-sized-drones-206-million-contract>

[2020-06-23 16:14:10] markusfriedl : unfortunately not able to buy as private person.. kinda expensive too but look nice :joy:

[2020-06-23 16:22:28] fredmicrowave : We just have to wait a few months until DJI copy it for a fraction of the price :laughing: ...

[2020-06-23 16:24:21] dkovar : It's been out for years and no one has copied it.....

[2020-06-23 16:53:04] d95gas : Super cool

[2020-06-23 23:00:02] quad808 : I woldn't call that a drone. Its a helicopter.

[2020-06-23 23:19:58] dkovar : Why is it not a drone?

[2020-06-24 00:53:15] quad808 : Single main rotor and tail rotor. Unless you lump all UAVs into the drone category. Just depends on how you use the word "drone"

[2020-06-24 02:29:02] originaldobo007 : Wonder what the range is ...

[2020-06-24 02:30:01] originaldobo007 : DJI will offer their own version, the DJI “Dingleberry”. You’ll have to apply for permission every time you want to fly it.

[2020-06-24 10:19:21] elintnl : @flymymavic, Thanks it's working again

[2020-06-24 16:46:08] fredmicrowave : This idea, independently of its application potential, is fantastic : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d80oXSCcHTk>

[2020-06-24 19:07:09] ender : Had time to watch & grok it now. That is quite amazing :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-06-24 19:07:58] ender : I first thought the rotorhead would die soon but after looking at the movements it makes and imagining that made out of aluminium i guess it will be fine for many hours of flight.

[2020-06-24 19:08:53] ender : I wonder if this 2 motor design offers a significant effeciency advantage compared to a conservative Quad, any idea? If that is NOT the csase its just funny, if it IS the case its might worth exploring...

[2020-06-24 21:11:13] fredmicrowave : The less the rotors, the better the efficiency. A single rotor heli is much more eficient than a multi, this is also why the most efficient propellers are the single blade ones. Now, all those impulses sent to the rotor have probably a negative impact on efficiency ... There is also a great improvement in weight: Less motors, props and drivers, even in comparison to a normal heli, there is less mechanical parts...

[2020-06-24 21:26:42] ender : My Intuition would say the same but usually there are more angkes to it :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-06-24 21:27:39] ender : The main motor is constantly accellerated and then brakes, i wonder what that does to the equation. Apart form energy consumption its probably bigger --> heavier for the same lift compared to a motor "just running"...

[2020-06-28 11:16:30] d95gas : Any of you out there got any secret apps to unlock Samsung/Google FRP. Got around 15 A5's that we told people NOT to lock with their Google account..... and they do exactly that. All now left the company. Think I have watched and tried every video going on FRP unlock, plus spend hrs with ODIN trying options.

[2020-06-30 15:08:15] bobdole : yes i got the ultimate workaround

[2020-06-30 15:09:33] bobdole : give them a call, buy them a beer. get them to unlock. if they hate the company, initiate contact under the pretense of you wondering what else is out there in whatever industry you're in that cares about whatever 15 people left on 3 year old phones

[2020-06-30 15:21:01] dexlarpsn : Nah you cant fix it by yourself, take it to a Samsung ceritified shop (or Samsung itself) together with proof of purchases and they will fix it for you

[2020-06-30 15:21:15] dexlarpsn : I was in the same situation, a Pixel device however. But shouldn't matter

[2020-07-01 23:18:08] david218 : @d95gas which things did you try? One of those guides should work.

[2020-07-01 23:25:33] dexlarpsn : @david218 They didn't for me neither, it's just a 3d party tool, its no guarantee they'll work. I'm pretty sure the seller or the manufacturer can help, as long as those phones are still in warranty and you have proof of purchase. You can always blame it on a bug or something if they deny. They replaced my Pixel device with a new motherboard (Google did).

[2020-07-02 07:06:15] d95gas : @david218 Think I spent a whole saturday trying every video I could find that had been made in the last 2 years, even tried some of the paid apps that said they could remove the FRP hack ont the Samsung and they failed miserably. Contacted our provider on Monday, and they advised us to take them to the Samsung service centre and they will be able to unlock them, with O2 providing the necessary to show the mobile belong to us. Now just to find a service centre that isnt 4hrs away in London

[2020-07-03 13:58:56] ender : OKAY, the wife complained about wifi reception in the garden. "you can fly your stupid drones halfway around the earth and i cant even google in the garden, blablabla". I got all male and added pigtails to our second router pointing towards the garden in order to bypass the crappy internal Antennas... Added directional Antennas. No effect, even worse then before!!! Added 2 x 4W Amps --> SAME!!! Forgot about it, soothed the wife more or less successfull. When i added RP-SMA to my Autel EVO 2 i realized that i took the pigails for that garden project out of the "cheap & failures" box. And guess what, those where UFL to SMA (NOT RP-SMA) pigtails, the whole time i did not once manage to correctly attach antennas and/or Amps, LOL. Switched the pigtails and i guess now the whole village can see our "garden wifi" :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-07-03 14:47:26] fredmicrowave : "They are not stupid drones"

[2020-07-03 14:50:13] ender : Thats only **one** opinion :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-07-03 18:11:07] quad808 : "There are no stupid drones, only stupid people." Good story...LOL

[2020-07-03 18:12:48] quad808 : Hey, wait. @ender so...you could buy an external 2.4/5.8 amp and connect it to your router antenna lead and it won't burn up the amp?

[2020-07-03 18:13:07] ender : of course!

[2020-07-03 18:13:16] ender : Did so long ago for my main router.

[2020-07-03 18:13:33] quad808 : I thought that routers have too much power output? Shows you what I know about this stuff

[2020-07-03 18:14:24] ender : its exaclty like for RC... routers in CE countries are limited to 100mW EIRP, in FCC more and you either crack them (flash openwrt) to override or add better Antennas OR add better Antennas and amps

[2020-07-03 18:14:28] ender : just the very same game

[2020-07-03 18:14:47] ender : the rules / laws / hardware are essentially the same

[2020-07-03 18:15:04] quad808 : wow. Why did I never think of this?

[2020-07-03 18:15:13] ender : no need? :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-07-03 18:15:39] quad808 : I just assumed that the home router would output more power than a RC and didn't play by the same rules, like FCC, CE

[2020-07-03 18:15:41] quad808 : DOH

[2020-07-03 18:15:46] ender : :wink:

[2020-07-03 18:15:55] quad808 : what an idiot.

[2020-07-03 18:16:30] ender : well, drone RC's have some more freedom to "just nit" break the rules if they do not use wifi protocol

[2020-07-03 18:16:46] quad808 : what 2.4/5.8 amp do you recommend? Would need that no? If my router has both on at same time?

[2020-07-03 18:17:07] quad808 : hang on, let me get a link to what I was looking at...

[2020-07-03 18:17:12] ender : i DO have an "el-cheapo" tip for you, sec

[2020-07-03 18:18:07] quad808 : this is what I have: <https://smile.amazon.com/Dual-Band-supporting-AiProtection-Accelerator-RT-AC88U/dp/B016EWKQAQ/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=asus+router&qid=1593800264&sr=8-10>

[2020-07-03 18:18:32] quad808 : Its good, but in my house, not optimal placement

[2020-07-03 18:18:49] ender : the question is, how much power does that baby already throw out ?!

[2020-07-03 18:19:03] ender : As you are in FCC-Land that can already be quiet a lot.

[2020-07-03 18:19:12] quad808 : yah, that is a good question. FCC land for me.

[2020-07-03 18:19:35] quad808 : I ended up using a AiMesh system, but my family still complains

[2020-07-03 18:19:35] ender : my el-cheapo solution only makes sense for CE Land :slightly_smiling_face: but you cant beat $4 :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-07-03 18:19:44] ender : let me check, sec

[2020-07-03 18:20:58] ender : <https://sourceforge.net/projects/asuswrt-merlin/files/RT-AC3100/>

[2020-07-03 18:21:37] ender : i searched but they do not seem to have openwrt for it. OpenWrt pages often offer full specs including possible output power (and possibility to go beyonf via boost).

[2020-07-03 18:21:51] ender : I do not know AsusWRT but you could chew through it

[2020-07-03 18:22:18] quad808 : yes, I know these routers can use alternate firmware, but I never looked into it. I will. Thank you

[2020-07-03 18:22:31] ender : BUT i assume you could simply take a look if they have UFL or MMX or so and add pigtails and boosters & Antennas to your liking as with everything else.

[2020-07-03 18:23:24] ender : I always use "FritzBox" Routers and there are some dealers offering Antenna & Amp kits and offer videos for every board revision and stuff, so thats easy...

[2020-07-03 18:24:23] ender : in the (good old) Parrot Bebop & AR Drone times i **did** exactly use amped repeaters to fly beyond 2km range with was at that time like flying to the moon for me :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-07-03 18:24:35] ender : Running OpenWRT of course...

[2020-07-03 18:25:16] ender : And for one time i used a Bebop hovering at 50m as repeater to drive the other one going faaar :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-07-03 18:25:30] ender : Ended in a big malaise but thats a different story :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-07-03 18:26:03] ender : so its all just the same stuff. Mount some Props & ESC on your ASUS and you basically have a drone :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-07-03 18:26:36] ender : Escept that "law cheating" of Ocusync and whatever-autel-calls-its-stuff protocols

[2020-07-05 08:17:11] d95gas : Anyone got any good streaming channels for the F1 this afternoon ...... Everyone I come across just fills the screen with crap advertising

[2020-07-05 13:38:53] oakley75 : +1

[2020-07-05 13:40:42] oakley75 : Ignore, my mistake lol

[2020-07-08 07:56:13] trulala69 : Any advice for a cheap beginners drone for a 12 year old, who has already played around with toy drones? Tello?

[2020-07-08 07:56:18] trulala69 : Thanks ...

[2020-07-08 08:00:09] ender : whats the budget?

[2020-07-08 08:01:10] ender : there are some prytty funny "Altitude hold" drones < $20 and GPS stabilized that i have start (with luck) < $80. GPS & brushless < $100...

[2020-07-08 08:02:41] trulala69 : Good question, ender ... I guess more of a problem is I'll need it until Tuesday next week :smile: as we go on holiday and stay isolated in a house, so I thought a drone would be nice ...

[2020-07-08 08:04:08] ender : so that would be Amazon then :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-07-08 19:19:34] buundy : Tello is not worthy in my opinion as it has brushed motors = first light crash means dead motor. But no brushless motor drone is cheap...

[2020-07-08 19:25:34] ender : Well i just bought a brushless drone (okay, gyro & acc only) for $50 including RC!

[2020-07-08 19:26:05] ender : i added up to $69 to have a cheap 5,8G FPV cam installed

[2020-07-08 19:26:13] ender : AND it has race mode, so gyro only :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-07-09 05:36:03] buundy : Nice!

[2020-07-09 05:36:40] buundy : Which one?

[2020-07-09 06:05:00] trulala69 : Oh yes, which one? I need a toy, too :smiley:

[2020-07-09 06:40:04] ender : Okay, you fed the troll :stuck_out_tongue: brushless < $50: MJX Bugs 3 B3 Mini <https://www.banggood.com/MJX-Bugs-3-B3-Mini-175mm-Wheelbase-Mini-Brushless-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-1594179.html> brushless & GPS < $100: AOSENMA CG033 <https://www.banggood.com/AOSENMA-CG033-1KM-WiFi-FPV-w-or-HD-1080P-Gimbal-Camera-GPS-Brushless-Foldable-RC-Drone-Quadcopter-RTF-p-1332536.html>

[2020-07-09 06:40:34] ender : Ordered & waiting for the Bugs ( i ordered with FPV cam ), got the aosema, its amazingly good. (In terms of flight abilities & stability, cam sucks of course)

[2020-07-09 06:49:12] ender : As it is for cheap drones, both suffer a huge "Dead on Arrival" rate as those comoanies probably spend $1 on QA combined. But if you get a good one and can decioher the 5 times back & forth google translated manual you are set for cheap fun :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-07-09 23:15:23] cadbob : Look into Husban if you can find a H501S

[2020-07-13 00:50:13] b1tninja : antenna in progress:

[2020-07-13 03:58:02] b1tninja : ugly but it works

[2020-07-13 05:02:06] buundy : 3d printed? Tuned?

[2020-07-17 20:17:16] pingspike : what is this sorcery?

[2020-07-17 23:51:57] fredmicrowave : Those are quadrifilar-like antennas, which are great antennas, specially for space communication!

[2020-07-18 07:14:06] d95gas : <http://www.rish.kyoto-u.ac.jp/digitalbeacon/information/Building_QFH_Antenna_Guide.pdf>

[2020-07-21 16:28:58] fredmicrowave : More about the cool miniature military drones. One has already been captured by Syrian troops. <https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26359/the-pocket-sized-black-hornet-drone-is-about-to-change-army-operations-forever> <https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=386695331713492&story_fbid=1195077180875299>

[2020-07-21 19:41:45] bobdole : Yesterday one of our brave officers managed / Major Ali Suleiman / Control A spy plane is very very sophisticated and features its small size and intelligence In Tel Tamar in Al-Hasakah Governorate.

[2020-07-21 19:41:56] bobdole : (thats what that says)

[2020-07-21 19:45:12] bobdole : i hope its full of trojans in case of capture

[2020-07-21 19:52:34] kbgroning : I bet there’s no nfz stuff or hardcoded limits in it :see_no_evil:

[2020-07-21 20:53:43] ender : if(RTH.possible() == false) go BOOM;

[2020-07-29 15:21:34] bobdole : guys whats the cheapest thermal drone option these days (used or new)

[2020-07-29 21:41:13] nocommie : Anafi Thermal. Approx $2k, comes with 3 batteries and is radiometric. The RGB cam is 4k/21mp. No Geozone etc. Not quite as "refined" as the Mavic2 Dual but beats it just being radiometric. Same sensors but DJI crippled the dual and disabled radiometric use.

[2020-07-29 22:43:57] bobdole : thanks they seem to hold their value even used

[2020-07-30 08:07:45] ender : I second that if low res flir is okay for you

[2020-07-30 08:08:17] ender : There are cheaper diy solutions but very hacky...

[2020-07-30 15:21:32] bobdole : i thought the evo 2 dual was going to be $2k for some odd reason...

[2020-07-30 15:21:46] bobdole : and then i go to get quotes and they're $9-10k

[2020-07-30 15:22:12] bobdole : rot in hell autel

[2020-07-30 15:29:18] ender : its the flir, it has 4 times as much pixels as the anafi or mp flir

[2020-07-30 15:29:19] bobdole : it would be for agriculture and commercial roof inspections

[2020-07-30 15:29:33] ender : thats nothing to rot in hell, just something to consider.

[2020-07-30 15:29:48] ender : a friend just paid $9000 JUST for exactly that cam to attach to his P4P

[2020-07-30 15:29:51] bobdole : 320 should be good enough for that right?

[2020-07-30 15:30:19] ender : depends on "that" :slightly_smiling_face: Also the focal length should be given a thought

[2020-07-30 15:32:29] bobdole : what are the cheaper diy solutions?

[2020-07-30 15:33:04] bobdole : strap a thermal camera on with an intervalometer or something

[2020-07-31 00:21:44] nocommie : Depends on what you want. Do you need qualitative or quantitative info? The latter requires a radiometric sensor for a proper report deliverable and requires you to have the correct settings such as emissivity, reflective temps, angle etc. If you simply need to simply "find" something using thermal, these don't matter. Then, how close you can get effects the sensor resolution which effects the Measurement FOV. In other words, if you can get close enough to put enough pixels on what you want to measure, a smaller sensor can work. It will take more time however and then there is the angle of the sensor. Meaning, things closer to the horizon are farther away and take up less pixels and therefore can not be deemed as accurate of a measurement. Then throw in the lens of the sensor. Anyway, I have a couple Anafi Thermals, the M2P Dual, an XT2 and a couple other stand alone sensors. For quick and dirty identification the smaller sensor is fine. If you have larger areas and need specific temps, go with a larger radiometric sensor. The Anafi is a good compromise being radiometric but lower resolution. If you really need to learn about thermal etc, take a FLIR sponsored class via their ITC.

[2020-07-31 08:05:50] ender : Basically thermal sensor on raspberry pi or Android with 5Ghz wifi for streaming and 2.4 Ghz controlled arducopter...

[2020-07-31 12:35:32] nocommie : I have gone the route of installing a thermal sensor a 3dr Solo. Modified the gimbal and added an analog to hdmi adapter. Worked but was a little front heavy. It had no control from the ground other than the gimbal. No recording other than a screen record. The biggest issue with this is you do not have a way to take advantage of any radiometric tools (FLIR Tools). Post processing almost mandatory for any commercial deliverable using thermal.

[2020-07-31 13:06:59] fredmicrowave : For really cheap solution, you could also point a small wireless camera on the screen of a Seek thermal FF ...

[2020-07-31 16:33:51] nocommie : lol, Yep, someone did that! Mounted a phone with that cam connected to the bottom of the drone and when you tilt the cam down it looked at the screen!

[2020-07-31 16:35:58] bobdole : i think i'll go for the anafi. i need it for roof inspections for one thing

[2020-08-09 11:28:14] fredmicrowave : For inspiration: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDLIXa_1YMg>

[2020-08-09 18:25:24] david218 : I ordered nearly 30 lbs of steak for pickup since it was on sale, gonna be so sad if my order doesn't get fulfilled.

[2020-08-09 18:25:50] david218 :

[2020-08-09 18:26:02] david218 : highlight of the day hopefully

[2020-08-09 19:54:45] heresmydron : i dont know what youre planning but i wanna be part of it

[2020-08-09 22:52:08] david218 : Noooooo it’s oos. Meh. I’ll go with the slightly more expensive one. :(

[2020-08-09 22:52:23] david218 : @heresmydron just lunch and dinners for the next two weeks.

[2020-08-14 06:29:24] pratik1 : HOW TO CALIBRATE MAVIC FCKING MINI GIMBAL. It says DUT device is not recognised. I AM GOING MAD

[2020-08-14 06:58:18] buundy : Connect it in quicker than 10s to the computer

[2020-08-14 06:58:29] buundy : What program do you use?

[2020-08-14 16:08:13] pingspike : I’m sure there’s about eight other channels you haven’t yet asked in...

[2020-08-14 18:09:39] pratik1 : RepairTool

[2020-08-14 20:41:15] fredmicrowave : @pratik1 Have you checked this method? <https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=210866&page=1#pid2206462>

[2020-08-14 20:42:12] fredmicrowave : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnR2or65ZuQ>

[2020-08-16 18:53:02] webhdx : Spark which spent half a year lost in the forest. Yes, it became a home for a spider family :sweat_smile: the best part is that it still works

[2020-08-16 20:42:18] digdat0 : Thats crazy! How did ya find it?

[2020-08-16 20:50:50] webhdx : I bought it. I wonder how the seller done that too.

[2020-08-27 18:46:23] pingspike : [https://twitter.com/ifsecglobal/status/1298657281580638208](https://twitter.com/ifsecglobal/status/1298657281580638208)

[2020-08-27 18:47:08] pingspike : That article said, "recent surge in drone activity near sporting events, where horses have been injured and vehicles damaged as devices have fallen from the sky."

[2020-08-27 18:47:34] pingspike : I'm pretty fucking sure that would have hit the headlines here in the UK if it had happened

[2020-08-27 18:47:59] pingspike : I called them out for a source yesterday and they've both gone radio fucking silent since

[2020-08-27 18:48:38] pingspike : anyone here in the UK ever hear anything about horses being injured and cars being damaged by falling drones?

[2020-08-27 18:58:43] validat0r : That'd have to be huge swarms of drones. Maybe an Intel event?

[2020-08-27 20:05:37] dkovar : I’ve not heard of such things happening and I track a variety of sources.

[2020-08-28 06:39:21] d95gas : @rich Usual Bullshit from Media and companies looking to make money off the back of our hobby, think we should flood their mail system, lying gits.

[2020-08-28 08:50:02] pingspike : It’s bollocks, isn’t it? :pensive:

[2020-08-28 14:40:56] buundy : Anyone can help me identify this part? I shorted out a betafpv flight controller. Marking says L86

[2020-08-28 14:41:03] buundy :

[2020-08-28 14:41:53] buundy : Magic smoke got out of it

[2020-08-28 15:44:06] fredmicrowave : What could (maybe) make sense because of the way it is used here, and casing : [93LC86C-E/ST](http://www.hotenda.com/marking-code/search/part/93LC86C-E%2FST.html)[ L86C ](http://www.hotenda.com/marking-code/search/list/L86C.html)TSSOP-8 [93LC86C-I/ST ](http://www.hotenda.com/marking-code/search/part/93LC86C-I%2FST.html)[L86C ](http://www.hotenda.com/marking-code/search/list/L86C.html)TSSOP-8 No manufacturer ?

[2020-08-28 16:18:47] buundy : the flight controller is produced by betafpv

[2020-08-28 16:18:54] buundy : I think it is not a memory module

[2020-08-28 16:19:06] buundy : pprobably a voltage regulator

[2020-08-28 16:19:12] buundy : thanks for the help

[2020-09-07 08:16:40] webhdx : Anyone here is familiar with Ambarella SOCs? I'm working on water damaged DJI Osmo Action and I hit a dead end. I was wondering if there are some service tools for H2, a datasheet etc.

[2020-09-07 08:17:34] webhdx : Or maybe someone already looked at Osmo Action and knows if there is an UART available on the board

[2020-09-08 22:01:44] mefisto : We have a few Ambarella datasheets, but rarely the ones needed. I don't have one for H2. For flashing, there's AmbaUSB tool. Never tried it though. Worth to read this: <https://github.com/o-gs/dji-firmware-tools/issues/157>

[2020-09-10 06:59:35] webhdx : Thanks Mefisto

[2020-09-13 15:02:04] chipmangini : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzi7vqGos6U>

[2020-09-14 01:39:36] bobdole : i can't wait to order a bunch of shit and have tiny strings all over my property for the free drone

[2020-09-18 09:56:21] webhdx : Is anyone able to identify this part for me? 4 contacts BGA. It fell off DJI Osmo Action camera. It says C0 TE1 but I'm not sure. Sorry for the quality, my microscope sucks.

[2020-09-22 06:08:31] buundy : Anyone knows a way to flash a gopro 7 with gopro 6 firmware? The reason I am asking is because hero 6 handles gyro data better and if you are building cinewhoops, the hero 6 works better with reelsteady (a stabilization app using the gyro stream embedded in the gopro video). I have a Hero 7, but it has bad compression in the gyro data so it cannot be stabilized properly. I have read that the 6 and the 7 is the same hardwarewise, except the 7 has more ram. Any ideas? :)

[2020-09-22 06:13:23] buundy : So basically I want to downgrade a hero 7 into a hero 6

[2020-09-22 06:15:27] bin4ry : if anyone then @mail451

[2020-09-22 06:23:38] mail451 : I tried sometime ago and there's a HW difference in the 7 from the 6 (namely the RAM increase) that makes this quite hard (usually it's just replacing the dtb like in Hero2018 to Hero5)

[2020-09-22 06:38:54] buundy : I know about the doubled ram

[2020-09-22 06:40:21] buundy : I thought it is not possible, but I thought maybe someone know some more about it

[2020-09-22 11:25:38] mail451 : Oof, Hero9 is too heavy for me to dive with.

[2020-09-22 13:22:29] kbgroning : Give it a 200gram diet [https://youtu.be/5k94hVAQNdE](https://youtu.be/5k94hVAQNdE)

[2020-09-23 09:48:25] kamil.bobrowski : flying at over 8000 meters <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoTDf0W911E>

[2020-09-23 18:15:52] quad808 : oh wait. "I unlocked the height restrictions and increased the speed." I wonder where he got the tools to do this?? :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-09-23 20:00:53] buundy : There was a dji keynote a few years back when dji claimed this rescue, and they told that dji drones made this rescue possible

[2020-09-23 20:01:20] buundy : They forgot to mention it was a jailbroken drone if I am correct

[2020-09-23 23:27:48] dkovar : DJI claims all sorts of rescues simply because a DJI product was somehow involved. It is rather insulting to SAR professionals. Hundred’s of people are involved in many searches but only a few make the find. Everyone contributed and no one claims the find for themselves.

[2020-09-24 13:07:37] buundy : Anyone have info about direct hdmi output from dji fpv goggles? I have read that someone hacked the goggles so it can output hdmi video without the smart comtroller

[2020-09-24 13:08:12] buundy : [https://intofpv.com/t-dji-fpv-goggles-hdmi-output-input-hacked](https://intofpv.com/t-dji-fpv-goggles-hdmi-output-input-hacked)

[2020-09-25 11:36:36] buundy : Unfortunately it is not there :(

[2020-09-25 12:23:12] buundy : Thanks! :)

[2020-09-25 22:47:02] fredmicrowave : Interesting design, some real innovations, 3hrs flight and 225km/h claimed: <https://soninhybrid.com/>

[2020-09-26 06:51:09] buundy : Seems fake for me

[2020-09-26 06:51:36] buundy : Too much difference

[2020-09-26 06:52:31] buundy : And no word about the innovation about what enables them to go that faster for that long.

[2020-09-26 11:31:18] fredmicrowave : They say they are hybrid, so they must use engines to power electric motors. This has been done before, and works. Just noisy. About the speed, from what I can see on the pictures, the props are almost oriented in the direction flight when at full speed...

[2020-09-26 12:16:07] dkovar : Think Osprey tilt rotors.

[2020-09-26 16:03:27] originaldobo007 : It’s fake. Their address is literally a UPS Store PO Box in Atlanta.

[2020-09-27 11:02:25] dkovar : Using a UPS Store PO box is pretty common. I ran a very successful business out of one, mostly because the physical office was moving as we grew and I didn’t want to keep changing the mailing address. That said, it does seem to be “aspirational” rather than a shipping product.

[2020-09-27 21:54:56] dkovar : I know quite a few startups in the DOD space that are using UPS boxes for their mailing addresses. Some of them are living out of AirBNB or couch surfing while attending accelerators. Their office is a WeWork, or a desk in a lab. Sure, these guys could be frauds, but they could be a legit startup swinging hard for the fence with very little capital. Time will tell.

[2020-09-28 00:40:55] originaldobo007 : Nothing to swing at when you are a company with one employee. No engineer. No capital. No product. And no experience with anything other than photoshop.

[2020-09-28 00:41:21] fredmicrowave : They are quite active on social media. But with not much substance, tbh, for people develloping a real engineering project... Anyway, my interest was not in the company or people behind, but in the technical aspects. And their project looks feasible, with the care in aerodynamics and hybrid power they presented.

[2020-09-28 00:45:36] originaldobo007 : In 2015 the single employee/owner/founder stated: “Sonin's core technological offering is the In-Flight Recharging System™ (IFRS™) that allows a quadcopter drone to stay aloft **indefinitely**, limited only by normal wear on moving parts (i.e., ball bearings inside electric motors). Sonin's debut drone, the SD-68 Ranger, employs this technology and will soon debut by achieving the world's first transatlantic flight by an electric drone.” Wonder how that went? :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: Plexidrone was also active on social media. That is totally irrelevant.

[2020-09-28 01:08:02] samdi : Hybrid drones existed a few years ago and can last for 2 hours.

[2020-09-28 01:11:20] samdi : <https://www.walkera.com/index.php/Goods/info/id/79.html>

[2020-09-28 01:25:48] samdi : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnjz6hfZ5hU>

[2020-09-28 11:01:26] dkovar : @originaldobo007 Many, many startups were started by a single person, a web site, and an idea. As I said, suspicious, but let’s see how it plays out rather than running down people who might be trying to create a business, eh?

[2020-09-28 12:38:33] buundy : is there any way to set a gopro hero 7 in pairing mode without the LCD screen? I salvaged a Hero 7 logic board and lens and I turned it into a Naked GoPro, and it works, records video, but I cannot set anything because my phone cannot pair with the gopro. So maybe a txt config file on SD card or some secret menu reachable by the two side buttons?

[2020-09-28 12:39:43] buundy : didn’t find anything on google regarding H7

[2020-09-28 12:49:10] buundy : I found out that there is two button mode, but it still dont brings out the settings menu on the front LCD

[2020-09-28 12:49:15] buundy : (I have front LCD)

[2020-09-28 13:17:30] buundy : I hope that @mail451 has some advice

[2020-09-28 14:39:05] mail451 : Hmm

[2020-09-28 14:39:15] mail451 : Ok for pairing you'd want to create a gpauto file

[2020-09-28 14:39:30] mail451 : Is the camera resetted?

[2020-09-28 16:42:26] buundy : How can I do it with only the two buttons? Press power for 10sec?

[2020-09-28 16:42:38] buundy : Also I can update fw, probably it resets it

[2020-09-28 16:52:09] mail451 : Do you know the password on the camera?

[2020-09-28 16:52:55] mail451 : Using the front LCD you can switch resolution, frame rate, ISO, etc..

[2020-09-28 16:53:59] mail451 : Check if it has a BT-LE signal using your phone and the nRF connect app, if the camera has wireless connection on it should pop up as GoPro [4 numbers]

[2020-09-28 16:54:14] mail451 : From there you can turn on WiFi and pair with the app.

[2020-09-28 18:56:05] buundy : I dont know the password

[2020-09-28 18:56:19] buundy : I could use the front LCD for what you said

[2020-09-28 18:56:33] buundy : I will check BT connectivity tomorrow in work

[2020-09-28 18:56:38] buundy : I am at home now

[2020-09-28 18:57:18] buundy : From the front LCD I could only switch modes photo-video-timelapse only

[2020-09-28 18:57:22] buundy : no other settings

[2020-09-28 19:04:12] mail451 : You can, hold both shutter and mode and it will bring up a menu to change settings : [https://youtu.be/ETGsggFsoes](https://youtu.be/ETGsggFsoes) (1:24)

[2020-09-28 19:05:30] mail451 : This is actually how I change the settings myself, I rarely use the touchscreen on the back on all my GoPros. It's a damn shame GoPro got rid of the third button to spawn WiFi and change settings. Now the 9 just lets you change presets, not settings.

[2020-09-28 19:24:56] buundy : You misunderstood me :slightly_smiling_face: I knew about this “secret” settings menu, but I said I cannot access wifi and pairing settings from this menu

[2020-09-28 19:25:51] buundy : right now I dont have the gp with me, but I will try to figure out what you said before. I don’t really understand how to enable wifi and how to get the password to connect to the device

[2020-09-28 19:26:30] buundy : probably with the gpauto file?

[2020-09-28 19:38:59] buundy : I think that without a working back LCD screen I cannot figure out the current SSID password, therefore I cannot set a new password with a gpauto file

[2020-09-28 19:43:16] mail451 : Ah, that's the thing, without the password the gpauto file won't work. When the camera turns on, if previously Wireless Connection was on, it'll turn on Bluetooth and WiFi. Using Bluetooth you can retrieve the password.

[2020-09-28 20:05:49] buundy : Okay! Then I will test if BT connectivity is on, then if it is on, then maybe I can get the password, am I right?

[2020-09-28 20:06:23] buundy : I downloaded the nrf connect app to my iPhone, tomorrow I will test the GP

[2020-09-29 09:31:31] buundy : I have tried to discover the gopro with Nrf, but it didn’t show

[2020-09-29 09:34:38] buundy : any other way to find out the wifi password through USB maybe?

[2020-09-29 09:42:07] buundy : I think I am out of luck. I will buy a display for the gopro and it will solve it

[2020-09-29 10:02:55] mail451 : Yep, buy a display. If it was a Hero5 I have a debug firmware that has Autoexec.ash enabled and with that it can enable wireless connections.

[2020-09-29 10:32:14] buundy : Thanks for the suggestions!

[2020-09-30 20:14:30] mail451 : LOL, DJI shills are astroturfing on the GoPro subreddit

[2020-09-30 20:14:35] mail451 :

[2020-09-30 20:15:23] mail451 : Clearly dormant account who have posted on subreddits known for easy karma such as aww and later posted negatively on /r/gopro and positively on DJI subs.

[2020-09-30 20:58:13] mail451 : Wait you posted on the reddit as well?

[2020-09-30 22:57:21] chipmangini : Pretty cool.... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZF5D84tz9k&feature=emb_logo>

[2020-10-01 11:07:22] fredmicrowave : Wow, that is SUPER cool ! We will probably see a lot of that design in the future. I just wonder why he made the motors nacelles so large.

[2020-10-01 14:06:23] originaldobo007 : Yep.

[2020-10-02 16:39:19] bobdole : because NEVER NOT PHALLUS

[2020-10-03 12:03:18] chipmangini : Chillin' on the sofa....

[2020-10-03 12:13:50] d95gas : Same place I did my jump and it was totally mind blowing, awesome place. That guy is a total nut for doing that :slightly_smiling_face:

[2020-10-03 12:55:29] oakley75 : As a skydiver, I totally assumed he'd have a pilot's chute on but wow I don't see one. You get a cool point for sure sir!

[2020-10-03 12:57:49] d95gas : Nope nothing there..... guy must have balls of steel.... just to sit chill and watch tv.... One sudden gust and it could of been over

[2020-10-03 13:05:22] oakley75 : Totally. No plan b around at all. Similar to that dude who skydived into a net without any chute.

[2020-10-03 13:07:13] d95gas : Yes I saw that, again totally nuts but these people live for adrenaline I guess

[2020-10-03 16:19:11] trulala69 : BTW where is he jumping? Looking really nice ...#

[2020-10-04 00:19:09] fredmicrowave : I assumed the backpack was a parachute. He could grab it fast if something went wrong. Cool stuff anyway.

[2020-10-04 08:45:47] d95gas : @trulala69 Olu Deniz - Turkey

[2020-10-04 08:46:18] d95gas : Beautiful place, really love it there, such a chilled out place.

[2020-10-04 09:11:04] trulala69 : Thanks! Noted for past Covid-19 ...

[2020-10-04 16:32:15] d95gas : Anyone got any "magic tools" for removing Google FRP on Samsung's. Got around 10 X J3 (2017) mobiles, users left the Company and not deleted Google account before doing factory reset. Total pain. Have similar issues with iPads but not even trying them unless anyone has any dirty fixes.

[2020-10-04 19:44:35] oakley75 : Flash pit via odin. Or so I've read.

[2020-10-05 07:13:40] d95gas : thanks

[2020-10-06 01:48:47] originaldobo007 :

[2020-10-08 17:07:22] mail451 : Which altitude? Those seem pretty low..

[2020-10-08 17:27:49] originaldobo007 : 5100ft

[2020-10-13 13:05:03] d95gas : <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54526515>

[2020-10-15 21:27:42] akraut : Hey folks, not strictly drone related, but has anyone seen firmware update files that look kinda like a Jar file (zip with a `META-INF` directory) but with only a single .tgz inside? I can't seem to get the tgz to extract as anything other than a 0-byte file, even though it shows a filesize with `unzip -l`: ```> unzip -l gpsd_v2019.gup Archive: gpsd_v2019.gup warning [gpsd_v2019.gup]: 18171 extra bytes at beginning or within zipfile (attempting to process anyway) Length Date Time Name --------- ---------- ----- ---- 229 07-11-2019 21:31 META-INF/MANIFEST.MF 391 07-11-2019 21:31 META-INF/GLOBALST.SF 1425 07-11-2019 21:31 META-INF/GLOBALST.RSA 29118 07-11-2019 21:31 gpsd.tgz 16 07-11-2019 21:31 manifest --------- ------- 31179 5 files```

[2020-10-16 08:35:11] heresmydron : maybe try binwalking it?

[2020-10-16 11:05:13] dkovar : Or remove those 18171 extra bytes.

[2020-10-16 19:16:44] akraut : Yeah, binwalk didn't really get me anywhere different than just straight unzipping it.

[2020-10-16 19:17:09] akraut : The problem is those extra bytes aren't actually at the beginning, so I can't just cut them off

[2020-10-21 21:39:52] oakley75 : My buddy has been approved by DJI for an exchange process. He's received the shipping label and is ready, but they are asking for every single accessory and packaging that came with it. Problem is he doesn't have retail box, but everything else. If he gets another box, will DJI have a problem with that since the serial number on the box UPC won't match the done serial? Really concerned about it, hoping someone has some experience/knowledge.

[2020-10-21 21:42:11] fbi.airfield51 : If you peal it off with tape, make it look like it was a gift in wrapping paper and say tape got stuck to box and pealed some label off?

[2020-10-21 21:47:43] oakley75 : Good point, I guess the question is whether the UPC is gone or of another craft, will DJI still exchange it?

[2020-10-21 21:47:53] fbi.airfield51 : Out of curiosity what product does DJI want everything back for? I only have seen to only send defect item or crashed drone parts only, nothing that's not broken.

[2020-10-21 21:49:01] fbi.airfield51 : I'm sure it won't matter if the box isn't there they probably mainly want the expensive stuff, if they refurbish it they will change the serial number

[2020-10-21 21:49:10] oakley75 : Yeah it's unexpected. It's MA2 with a non-fixable activation issue. They are the ones that said exchange and to send it all back.

[2020-10-21 21:49:35] oakley75 : Bought from a dealer not dji direct

[2020-10-21 21:51:32] oakley75 : I told him my concern is like if you were to return one to let's say Best Buy without a upc (or wrong upc), I'd imagine that'll be a big fat nope.

[2020-10-21 21:51:38] fbi.airfield51 : If your sending it to dji I'm sure I'll be OK with the wrong(but right model) box and the UPC a little tore off

[2020-10-21 21:52:38] fbi.airfield51 : Is this warranty only or was refresh purchased?

[2020-10-21 21:54:07] fbi.airfield51 : Refresh they probably will, even under regular warranty they said they will look at it.

[2020-10-21 21:54:19] oakley75 : You're probably right. It's an innocent thing to throw a box away, he did no wrong from my point of view. But I'm trying to help. I think of Mushroomhead everytime I see your Avatar here ha

[2020-10-21 21:54:41] fbi.airfield51 : Lol

[2020-10-21 22:08:49] fbi.airfield51 : Or accidentty spill super glue on your garage floor and sit the box on it

[2020-10-21 22:09:26] oakley75 : Well, if anyone maybe went through this situation before, lmk the results would be appreciated. Peace

[2020-10-21 22:10:46] oakley75 : I like the glue one lol, like throwing mud on one's car license plate if they gonna run lol

[2020-10-21 22:11:22] fbi.airfield51 : I would accidentally spill glue and sit box it on, or use very sticky packing tape to remove part of the label and make sure it takes some of the outta layer of bix of next to UPC so it doesn't look like you only went for upc

[2020-10-21 22:13:05] fbi.airfield51 : But Ifnthey said they would exchange it, you have all parts and right box with a upc you should be fine, they will look at the serial number of your ma2 , not so much the box, do make sure it's the bird you wrote a support ticket for

[2020-10-21 22:13:50] fbi.airfield51 : UPC torn off or messed up* it'll be fine I'm sure,

[2020-10-22 01:00:00] dkovar : I’d say “After a week, I got rid of the box.” Simple, believable, probably what actually happened.

[2020-10-22 02:15:08] oakley75 : Indeed. Well, we'll see if they delay his process for to it. Thanks

[2020-10-22 04:39:01] fbi.airfield51 : If he does that and they say no its not complete he has no chance to say he found box, he can ask if the same box with different SKU will be accepted If just a ma2 box in good condition will work.

[2020-10-22 04:41:31] fbi.airfield51 : That's probably the best honest way , but if they say no he may be screwed.

[2020-10-22 05:34:17] bin4ry : i would be honest here. DJI goes hard against stolen units recently, from my experience dji blocks activation for devices they think that was stolen. so be honest here and also send them a copy of the receipt from the store you got it from. chances are high that the unit was stolen and you would want proof that you bought it in a store.

[2020-10-22 12:42:03] fbi.airfield51 : That's true, if it was listed as stolen as the reason don't make it worse by using a box with another SKU, I didn't think about that part as he didn't state reason for why it wouldn't activate I thought maybe it only had a software/firmware issue.

[2020-10-22 14:17:49] bin4ry : very unlikely to be an inconsistent firmware issue. if it were a re-flash should fix it. but i am no activation "expert" i only know that dji seems to lock out stolen units from activation and welll .... it would make sense :wink:

[2020-10-22 16:00:34] oakley75 : My speculation is it's one the early batches of MA2 that had some bad serials. He's got his legit receipt. From what I've read, the bad serials are either from a stolen batch of numbers OR DJI themselves inadvertantly marked some serials as bad. They of course won't say, but they know it's not the consumers fault.

[2020-10-22 17:09:14] bin4ry : then all should be fine even without package

[2020-10-22 17:09:34] bin4ry : in that case just be clear and honest

[2020-10-22 18:02:45] fbi.airfield51 : Few months back*

[2020-10-22 18:04:04] fbi.airfield51 : If its not stolen say I may have lost box is it OK to send without box if they say no ask if you can use a box for the same model

[2020-10-25 00:53:37] oakley75 : Update: so it was all a mistake anyway. After days of no reply, they came back saying oh we didn't realize you purchased back in May, so it has changed from an exchange to a repair. So now just the drone body and remote are being requested. Man I shoulda stayed outta this one lol.

[2020-10-26 07:53:01] buundy : Does anyone have a GoPro Hero 6 Black and willing to sell? I am building some naked gopro fpv drones and I need some gopros. Hero 7 is also acceptable, but ideally Hero 6 is that have proper gyro data stream that allows further stabilisation. No problem if it has cracked screen. I only need logic board, camera sensor module and usb module from it.

[2020-10-26 07:54:30] buundy : Built this already:

[2020-10-26 07:54:32] buundy : [https://appsolute.hu/2020/10/ismet-dront-epitunk-a-meztelen-gopro-esete/](https://appsolute.hu/2020/10/ismet-dront-epitunk-a-meztelen-gopro-esete/)

[2020-10-26 07:55:56] buundy : I wrote the build log in Hungarian, if interested maybe google translate can help :)

[2020-10-28 10:35:52] chipmangini : I'm glad I don't do this..... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OO-0WA2GQk>

[2020-10-31 18:29:24] bobdole : lovely <https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/google-microsoft-windows-bug-attack/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3DaiwOotpVQJcKbZ04FWnwEoY6pICmCfqbci08q1A86qXIjC3ipOmlDw1a9cq-5dC0RUf2_6o8u51l-H-cvkRcai5_z-seCDojg9UhBgVMOOSOpw3Fyh8C91s-442olY6NQNq-h2FRjqg8FkPcm6iXgwpLJsiqWbxCK-Fkn9VP>

[2020-10-31 18:30:39] bobdole : this is why i only use windows for shit like NLD or other apps i use so rarely i forget what they are

[2020-10-31 19:46:45] oakley75 : What linux distro would be recommended to look into as an alternative? I've only played around with live distros really.

[2020-10-31 19:49:55] fbi.airfield51 : Debian is nice

[2020-10-31 19:56:21] pingspike : my wife uses Mint, she loves it :man-shrugging::skin-tone-2:

[2020-10-31 20:36:22] bobdole : they all have their flaws but the most popular ones have more community support and any problem you run into will likely be solved by a few other people (in a few different ways). i'm using redhat only because it is supported with davinci resolve and i never want to have an issue where i can't run davinci resolve because some package update broke something

[2020-11-01 04:35:37] oakley75 : Good ol debian is certainly OG, mint is intriguing. Got a huge book on red hat but that's so commercial oriented for the regular masses it seems. FreeBSD probably not much good nowadays. Still like to play with the "special" live ones, all started with phlak. Not being a script kiddie, but sometimes it's convenient to have some basics right there ready.

[2020-11-01 13:41:20] fbi.airfield51 : Yes I got Kali on my laptop , came with windows 8.1 I didn't like, one day I'll stop by best buy(I don't trust web / shipped software that expensive) and buy win10 for it but I keep forgetting

[2020-11-01 13:42:46] oakley75 : I think the free upgrade trick still works (8 to 10) but I'm not totally sure

[2020-11-01 13:45:37] fbi.airfield51 : I'll look into that today, thanks for reminding me, I think a while ago I tried for some reason I didn't do it (may have been i couldn't) then forgot about that till you just said it, thanks for reminding me

[2020-11-01 13:54:22] david.haluska : I could confirm that 10 upgrade for free should be still available. Only crucial thing is to do one time upgrade from your official windows - then new upgraded windows 10 will activate against MS servers with your machines's UUID and you could then freely clean install Win 10 to that machine when needed and it will be activated automatically when connected to internet.

[2020-11-01 13:56:49] fbi.airfield51 : My 8 is pro, can I do a win10pro upgrade ? I was just reading something that says "upgrade to win10 to win10 pro hassle free" but didnt get a chance to read it yet

[2020-11-02 10:07:35] pingspike : this is pretty cool

[2020-11-02 10:07:45] pingspike : <https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-400/?resellerType=home>

[2020-11-02 10:08:00] pingspike : raspberry pi built in to its own native keyboard

[2020-11-02 10:08:04] pingspike :

[2020-11-02 10:08:08] pingspike : $70 :+1::skin-tone-2:

[2020-11-02 10:25:22] atlantic : Back to the Commodore 64 times, when the computer was in the keyboard.

[2020-11-03 23:41:33] bobdole : MEH!

[2020-11-03 23:41:42] bobdole : no membrane keyboard???? PLEASE

[2020-11-03 23:43:39] bobdole : and by membrane i mean... flat.. atari 400 or magnavox odessey style

[2020-11-04 15:35:20] pingspike : ZX81 style :scream:

[2020-11-06 17:22:21] bobdole : <https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmJy4DKXEAc5bCB?format=jpg&name=small>

[2020-11-06 17:22:37] bobdole : whoops wrong window

[2020-11-09 13:11:57] capra_vecinului : Looks like Sony wants part of the cake: <https://youtu.be/hK3kb3VWYgc>

[2020-11-09 21:58:38] bobdole : i don't think they'll fail

[2020-11-09 21:59:47] bobdole : they seem to get off on supplying parts, then jump in and steal their customer's market share

[2020-11-10 11:51:32] kilrah : Sony usually don't half ass things, will be interesting

[2020-11-10 12:03:15] d95gas : Will be interesting to see what they bring to the market, as you indicate, all their kit is really good and they don't cut corners. Lets hope they don't try and follow anything from the DJI Stable.

[2020-11-10 12:21:16] trulala69 : I would buy one, just because it's from SONY :smile:

[2020-11-10 15:44:29] kilrah : wow, that's quality phishing alright

[2020-11-10 16:22:21] heresmydron : my man, a thunderbird user

[2020-11-10 16:22:24] heresmydron : guess old habits die hard

[2020-11-10 16:24:30] kilrah : @heresmydron got anything better? :smile:

[2020-11-10 16:37:56] bin4ry : brave browser

[2020-11-10 16:43:48] kilrah : as email client?

[2020-11-10 16:57:06] bin4ry : lol sorry :sweat_smile: somehow my brain made up firefox from thunderbird

[2020-11-10 16:57:25] bin4ry : now that i am reading it again .... lol

[2020-11-10 17:00:43] kilrah : :smile:

[2020-11-18 02:44:40] bobdole : anybody use 120fps on a mavic 2 pro?

[2020-11-18 02:45:04] bobdole : i haven't tried it lately, but i assume its garbage. was wondering if any firmware update happened to fix it to make it look halfway decent

[2020-11-24 21:52:23] yzayn.yz : hi, any news on removing the error messages after gimbal replacement on mavic MINI?

[2020-11-25 08:25:58] mingtao : need vpn to dji and dealer software

[2020-11-25 13:48:36] micronica : no way of geting that, i try for over 6 months

[2020-11-25 15:36:54] mingtao : It easy than you think..

[2020-11-26 16:31:50] chipmangini : <https://dronedj.com/2020/10/30/2198-drones-take-to-the-sky-in-record-breaking-drone-show/>

[2020-11-26 19:55:55] bobdole : sounds expensive

[2020-11-26 19:56:03] bobdole : just use fireworks

[2020-11-26 19:56:07] bobdole : weirdos

[2020-11-29 19:00:26] oakley75 : Wonder what Salesforce is gonna do with Slack? Clearly battle MS it seems

[2020-11-29 21:23:26] pingspike : salesforce :pensive:

[2020-11-29 21:24:06] pingspike : they’ll probably ditch that stupid chat thing they build years ago and integrate slack directly in to their platform

[2020-11-29 21:24:12] pingspike : seen the valuation of slack tho?

[2020-11-29 21:24:15] pingspike : fucking insane…

[2020-11-29 21:24:26] pingspike : it’s a posh IRC network, right?

[2020-11-29 21:24:36] pingspike : how is that worth so many billions?

[2020-11-29 21:24:49] pingspike : worlds gone crazy man

[2020-11-29 21:47:19] heresmydron : just like zoom. its a fancy jitsi. but it caught on, so when people think about tele conference, they think about zoom

[2020-11-29 21:50:58] heresmydron : same as slack. work related chat = slack

[2020-11-29 21:56:11] pingspike : linkedin sold for silly money too, and that is literally just a web site :man-shrugging::skin-tone-2: it’s like the dot com boom of 1999/2000 all over again

[2020-11-29 21:56:15] pingspike : I need to make a web site

[2020-11-29 22:47:02] oakley75 : Yeah with that valuation, they gotta see some big plans

[2020-11-30 04:26:21] kbgroning : [https://www.instagram.com/p/CIMFro7H1u2/?igshid=1trumjofju259](https://www.instagram.com/p/CIMFro7H1u2/?igshid=1trumjofju259) Tried some nightshots over fog with fullmoon light

[2020-12-01 04:31:36] bobdole : 100,000+ feet or go home

[2020-12-01 04:32:38] bobdole : i think polarpro sells re-entry balloons

[2020-12-01 06:07:17] kbgroning : :man-shrugging::skin-tone-2:

[2020-12-10 02:05:52] huang.brayden : I swear next gen drones gonna reach orbit

[2020-12-10 04:45:57] mel69hash : And Mariana trench

[2020-12-10 13:47:08] bobdole : at some point i'm sure there will be an operation ceiling height pissing match among manufacturers but hobbyists will be long out of the picture. i'm trying to find a way to keep my foot in the door

[2020-12-11 06:12:12] huang.brayden : Dji: “Our drones can operate at altitudes of 13000ft” Also Dji: “No you cannot fly past 1600ft”

[2020-12-11 07:33:02] kilrah : ...

[2020-12-11 07:33:16] kilrah : that's just you being confused, not DJI :smile:

[2020-12-11 17:52:13] huang.brayden : I jb my drone just like everybody else. :)

[2020-12-13 20:36:48] chipmangini : Watch from 2:48 on........ :+1::skin-tone-2: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e45LHaGNIlE>

[2020-12-15 22:36:08] mail451 : Got myself a vintage drone

[2020-12-15 23:43:33] kilrah : wow :laughing:

[2020-12-15 23:44:55] mefisto : These are still expensive. I guess due to historic value.

[2020-12-16 00:17:18] mefisto : I'm not getting any emails on my gmail. interesting.. wasn't the google server issue like 16 hours ago?

[2020-12-16 08:36:31] pingspike : It was on Monday

[2021-01-19 16:54:59] nopexecutor : hmm... anyone tried decoding the raw video feed as provided by RC? E.g. on MA2?

[2021-01-19 18:11:25] fun.day.cool : I've messed around with some but no luck :(

[2021-01-25 13:34:29] kamil.bobrowski : had a close call today, mavic air started auto land due to critically low battery after ascent in sport mode, checked the logs and voltage dropped to 2.7V (at 100% charge). During descent it rebounded to 3.5V and on the ground to 3.7V. Did a second flight with another battery (not in sport mode), and logs showed that voltage dropped to 3V during ascent and then came back to 3.7V. It's -6 deg C. Is it time for new set of batteries?

[2021-01-25 13:59:21] validat0r : probably. had the same with the mavic pro with some 2018 batteries. @lowellfoo780 would recommend to pre-heat the batteries to like 35°C before flight I can image.

[2021-01-25 14:01:58] validat0r : had my spark drop out of the air in a similar incident: old batts + rapid climb. so auto land wirh mp1/ma is preferred

[2021-01-25 14:02:38] validat0r : atm i dont use the old MP1 batts without an additional lipo

[2021-01-25 14:05:34] kamil.bobrowski : thanks, yeah these are also 2018 batteries. Pre-heating may be good idea, especially in this weather. Few days ago I was still flying 1.5km away over water, but I guess these flights are over for now

[2021-01-25 15:51:06] heresmydron : wouldnt just setting battery_type_0 to 0 avoid all of this?

[2021-01-25 15:54:34] validat0r : non-DJI Bat is "2" .. why would you go to "0"?

[2021-01-25 18:39:08] heresmydron : huh i use 0 on both my mini and my MA2 and it disables the forced landing (and the RTH warning)

[2021-01-25 18:39:18] heresmydron : what do you get when you use 2 instead of 0?

[2021-01-25 19:33:15] validat0r : I was under the impression, 2 means non-dji-bat. have to double check with assistant. maybe it changes from spark/mp to ma2/mini?

[2021-01-25 23:03:39] heresmydron : well i dont know the internals but for sure 0 disables autolanding on mm1 and ma2. in the ma2 they locked the value to 1 since firmware 340 unfortunately

[2021-01-25 23:04:43] validat0r : crappy move by dji, again :confused:

[2021-01-26 07:44:41] kilrah : Avoid? No, you'd just crash instead of autolanding...

[2021-01-26 09:40:37] validat0r : If the B0B article in ~mavicmini is correct, 0 seems to be "show no warnings at all" which might be a bit risky

[2021-01-26 09:48:53] kamil.bobrowski : Thanks, disabling autoland might be useful in some situations. This problem might be also due to batteries being very cold before flight, left them in the trunk for the night, so they were cooled to about -6 C. But if they are lacking performance due to old age then I guess it's better to upgrade to MA2 instead of buying new batteries

[2021-01-26 09:51:23] kilrah : there have been a bunch of reports of the same issue with MAs on mavicpilots lately. i think the MA batteries just don't age well

[2021-01-26 10:31:32] validat0r : it's said MA batts do have a very good weight/capacity ratio .. i guess that comes with a price

[2021-01-26 12:00:43] heresmydron : yes indeed you get zero warnings. ive flown the mini for a few mins at 0% battery

[2021-02-07 11:56:03] mats.bohlinsson : Can you give some more info how you want to access the feed? On android? I might help you a little bit on the way. My best bet is to use the libs that already doing what you asking for.

[2021-02-07 12:20:17] mats.bohlinsson : If you use rtmp stream, probably the best way. I think there is an option to don't do any transcoding, so you basically get what the drone sends (264) It's MUCH easier to setup if you already have a FPV-view running. Like 2-3calls to MSDK. If you only want to get realtime frames, you can just do getBitmap() on the fpw-view. I'm working on a python-framework-app that will make all this very easy :-)

[2021-02-11 14:16:00] mats.bohlinsson : Kind of shows which quality you get from the live feed. This is grabbed in realtime in the app, mucxh better that I expected. MA2

[2021-02-18 21:02:15] validat0r : awesome

[2021-02-18 21:53:27] pingspike : amen to that my brother :bow::skin-tone-2:

[2021-02-18 21:55:56] validat0r : bridenstine already stepped down .. that was quick .. was waiting for his take on the mission

[2021-02-22 20:24:42] pingspike : anyone in the UK interested in buying my much loved, hydrodipped, Inspire 1 v2 complete with X3, Z3, X5, Titan-power amplified ground base station and 101 other cool things? DM for more details if genuinely interested :blush:

[2021-02-23 03:43:43] digdat0 : Thats a good looking setup. That cf is niiice and clean

[2021-02-23 08:17:01] kilrah : indeed

[2021-02-23 08:17:10] kilrah : just too bad it lost value so much

[2021-02-23 08:18:19] kilrah : still have my i1 as I'd rather keep it for historic value rather than let it go for barely $500

[2021-02-23 10:18:40] pingspike : if I can’t sell it as a bundle after a few weeks I’ll probably split it

[2021-02-23 10:19:14] pingspike : TB48 batteries are fetching £150+ here in the UK my batteries are worth more than the drone :man-shrugging::skin-tone-3:

[2021-02-23 10:24:33] pingspike : @digdat0 the cf pattern matches and lines up over each section too:

[2021-02-23 10:24:39] pingspike : attention to detail man :wink:

[2021-02-25 16:56:48] hwu3050 : .

[2021-02-25 16:57:29] hwu3050 : .

[2021-03-05 11:17:21] nopexecutor :

[2021-03-05 11:45:09] pingspike : you spelt coffee wrong :grimacing:

[2021-03-05 12:54:56] nopexecutor : Not me, but you are right

[2021-03-05 14:01:23] chipmangini : **"Candide Thovex Quattro 2 - 2018 New York City Drone Film Festival Extreme Sports Category Winner" on YouTube** <https://youtu.be/JWO967SRU9w>

[2021-03-08 20:14:29] pingspike : Signal are hiring... [https://www.signal.org/workworkwork](https://www.signal.org/workworkwork)

[2021-03-12 20:07:36] pingspike : the fire at OVH was insane

[2021-03-12 20:07:46] pingspike : why did their fire suppression fail?!

[2021-03-12 20:24:47] kilrah : did they have one? :laughing:

[2021-03-12 22:03:13] pingspike : fair point, and going by the smouldering remains of their data centre, I’ll guess not :grimacing:

[2021-03-12 22:29:51] kilrah : there's talk it could have been the UPS batteries going off, could imagine that being too much for a fire suppression system too...

[2021-03-27 19:37:40] fredmicrowave : Interesting story : <https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39913/multiple-destroyers-were-swarmed-by-mysterious-drones-off-california-over-numerous-nights>

[2021-03-29 21:29:12] iauster : This might be interesting for CANBus related apps. Most probably it is the first publicly available DUMP-like documentation from DJI. And they provided Python demo app and libs. <https://terra-1-g.djicdn.com/851d20f7b9f64838a34cd02351370894/Ronin%E7%B3%BB%E5%88%97/DJI_R_SDK_Protocol_and_User_Interface_EN_v2.3.pdf>

[2021-03-29 21:30:16] iauster : Demo app: <https://terra-1-g.djicdn.com/851d20f7b9f64838a34cd02351370894/DJI%20R%20SDK/SDK%20demo%20software.zip>

[2021-04-01 00:13:17] mefisto : Circa two years ago I bought this: <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000698349221.html> Today I charged it to 2/4 bars, checked the voltage - and it's 13.2 V (?!). I'm pretty sure it has 3S li-po cells. And considering it was the cheapest jump starter, I doubt these were HV cells. That voltage doesn't go into any valid range. What's going on? Is the controller overcharging the battery?

[2021-04-01 00:13:42] mefisto : Expected li-po voltages: <https://blog.ampow.com/lipo-voltage-chart/>

[2021-04-01 00:16:02] mefisto : I will add that it's not an unstable voltage due to puffed cells - I connected it to dead acid battery, and it is delivering 1 Amp constant current to it.

[2021-04-01 06:41:16] kilrah : possible yes...

[2021-04-01 06:41:34] kilrah : you can get absolute trash in those aliexpress listings

[2021-04-01 06:41:44] kilrah : bigclivedotcom has countless examples on youtube :smile:

[2021-04-01 09:51:16] mefisto : Yeah, I now think these are HV cells, but I'm pretty sure they're also overcharged a bit. I depleted the power bank completely (left it connected to a car for night), and when I started charging it, it reached 12V very fast. So as HV cells, they should be charged to like 13.10 V; but they are charged to circa 13.40 V.

[2021-04-01 16:21:13] b1tninja : just came across this and thought it was neat <https://rev.ng/blog/pagebuster/post.html>

[2021-04-01 22:04:12] b1tninja : azure didnt pay my bitcoin ransom

[2021-04-02 07:48:41] validat0r : Now what?

[2021-04-02 09:35:04] amqassim : Hi guys , I am wondering if micro SD card can be counted as an entry point to the dji mini 2 drone. If so is there any specific threats related to this point. thanks in advance

[2021-04-03 01:54:55] b1tninja : lol Azure had a DNS outage yesterday, I was just kidding

[2021-04-19 16:07:44] validat0r : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNgrXCmhSak>

[2021-04-19 16:07:48] validat0r : not dji

[2021-04-19 17:52:35] quad808 : Mars DJI NFZ, limit set to .5m

[2021-04-19 17:54:03] validat0r : just temporarily

[2021-04-19 17:55:28] d95gas : Bin4ry already found the vulnerability and will push out No NFZ patch tonight for NASA :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

[2021-04-19 20:06:03] pingspike : I bet it has anti rollback too

[2021-04-23 09:39:42] validat0r : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW07SN3YoLI>

[2021-04-23 09:39:50] validat0r : T-9Min

[2021-04-25 09:01:00] validat0r : rip dan

[2021-04-25 12:10:54] tmbinc : :( met him once at BlueHat (2007), he was a great guy.

[2021-04-25 12:29:07] bin4ry : :(

[2021-04-25 13:13:57] validat0r : loved his talks on congress. he was an icon.

[2021-05-07 17:28:50] wocpsu : All hi I'm new to the group and need some help with my Phantom 4. Just like Martin in this forum post (<https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=106055&mobile=2>) I can't get the Phantom 4 to take a firmware update and I have no IP address for the AC when I connect via usb. Does anyone know how he was running the commands in post #7 (<https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=106055&pid=883283>). Was this using the pyduml.py? Thanks any help would be appreciated!!

[2021-05-07 18:31:11] mefisto : Looks like he made his own tool, cDUML. That tool seem to send a specific command to the drone, and that command takes string parameter with command to run as payload. You either have to find that tool, or use any of our generic DUML sending tools. If you use a generic tool, you have to figure out values for the DUML packet which his tool was hard-coding: which module was a recipient, which command was being sent, etc.

[2021-05-07 22:41:25] wocpsu : @martinbogo Could you please help me with what your custom packet was and if I could use the serialtalkpy tool? perhaps using subparser.add_argument('-p', '--payload_bin', default="", type=str, help='provide binary payload directly (default payload is empty)')

[2021-05-08 02:08:27] jezzab : I would be making sure you dont have an RNDIS networking/driver problem on your PC before travelling down that path. He is using an exploit to run the shell commands to delete the env partition variable which caused it to be stuck in recovery mode during an upgrade ```env -d boot.mode recovery reboot``` (I remember it)

[2021-05-08 18:46:08] wocpsu : @jezzab Thanks for the reply!!! I'm pretty sure that's not the issue as I booted my PC in a mode which allows installation of unsigned drivers and I tried it on another PC which was able to load firmware in the past. Do you happen to know the packet i would send for "env -d boot.mode recovery" and for "reboot"?

[2021-05-11 15:47:53] thecomicbookhunt : Anyone ever come across this Webmin server on the mavic pro? I've never stumbled across any posts regarding this. I accessed it via the hidden usb port on the mavic. It came up as a RNDIS interface so I assigned it an IP and scanned it and this is what I got.

[2021-05-11 16:17:55] buundy : Interesting!

[2021-05-12 06:48:13] mingtao : Obsolete..

[2021-05-12 11:46:58] validat0r : Rly? Thats on the MP1?

[2021-05-12 12:06:32] thecomicbookhunt : Yea

[2021-05-12 12:21:23] olli_dxd : There is probably a similar interface on the Phantom 4 Pro since it has a similar random internal usb port

[2021-05-12 14:03:48] mefisto : Does it connect to Ambarella? There are VPS chips nearby on the board.

[2021-05-12 14:05:09] mefisto : (not that I can't extract all the firmwares and just grep for Webmin, but I'm lazy..)

[2021-05-12 19:46:56] validat0r : in what module should that be? 801?

[2021-05-13 02:18:12] thecomicbookhunt : I extracted the firmware files and ran grep on it for any references to webmin but came up with nothing.

[2021-05-13 17:09:18] joshthesoftwaredev : That is lit

[2021-05-13 21:59:25] jezzab : Google `mavic dikfer port` Should give you a head start. Lots of posts were removed at the time but some info is still there. There used to be telnet and ftp details too from memory

[2021-05-17 19:35:55] heresmydron : is there a way on wireshark to add custom names to BTLE handlers?

[2021-05-17 19:36:25] heresmydron : im wiresharking the bluetooth connection to a onewheel and most of the handlers are identified by the community, but on wireshark appear as unknown

[2021-05-17 19:36:27] heresmydron :

[2021-05-17 19:36:53] heresmydron : i was wondering if theres a way to configure wireshark to map, for example, handle 0059 to "get firmware version"

[2021-05-22 17:04:14] buundy : So about the quad I built for mavic mini motors

[2021-05-22 17:04:33] buundy : I posted the before and after videos of the frame stiffener

[2021-05-22 17:05:38] buundy : But yesterday After the frame became more rigid, I also printed tpu softmounts under the motors and today I tested the setup and it seemed to become far better

[2021-05-22 17:05:50] buundy : I will find a dvr asap

[2021-05-22 17:07:26] buundy : So probably a more rigid frame and softmounted motors is a good combination

[2021-05-22 17:08:33] buundy : If anyones interested in the frame and components I can share the source files soon so anyone can make it

[2021-05-22 17:08:48] buundy :

[2021-05-22 17:09:55] buundy : I have not time tested with lipo battery but 450mah 4s battery lasts for 8-9 min

[2021-05-22 18:55:59] quad808 : Nice...good progress on your vibration problems!

[2021-05-22 20:22:32] buundy : I hope I can test it better in a few days

[2021-05-22 21:52:21] originaldobo007 : That’s awesome!

[2021-05-23 10:08:21] buundy : It is designed to carry a naked gopro, my design also: [https://www.youmagine.com/designs/beta95x-gopro-cinewhoop-frame-and-mount](https://www.youmagine.com/designs/beta95x-gopro-cinewhoop-frame-and-mount)

[2021-05-23 10:08:38] buundy : Its speciality is that you dont need to buy carbon frame for it

[2021-05-23 10:08:55] buundy : You can print it and it is crashproof

[2021-05-23 13:34:41] jonathan.bakert : That mAh seems to suggest 4s. It's just plain weird and could be charging them unbalanced, or .. god who knows

[2021-05-29 20:01:23] b1tninja : Really impressed with this git "scanner" <https://github.com/eth0izzle/shhgit/>

[2021-05-29 20:52:37] pingspike : DJI could have done with that four years ago, right? :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

[2021-05-30 04:09:29] b1tninja : =x

[2021-06-01 16:41:02] the.hope.ltd : Hello I have mavic 2 z wich is not linking to rc Update always ask for missing updating meduals The link led on ac stay red even after pushing Any idea for sulotion Or where is the rf board on core board of m2??

[2021-06-03 19:26:19] buundy : if anyone is interested in my microlongrange saga I am happy to announce that the vibrations disappeared

[2021-06-03 19:26:24] buundy : <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2K9aTRUQ-A>

[2021-06-03 19:26:34] buundy : dvr is also smooth

[2021-06-03 19:27:03] buundy : the problem was apparently the fpv cam mount which resonated during flight

[2021-06-03 19:27:20] buundy : so not the pid tuning was the source of the problem

[2021-06-03 19:28:19] buundy : on 2s liion with naked gopro it weighs 260 grams and flies for around 20min, without gopro it flies for almost 28 min, have not tested accurately

[2021-06-03 19:28:36] buundy : I plan to change the mini 1 motors to mini 2 motors

[2021-06-03 19:29:00] buundy : the mini 1 and mini 2 propellers are the same dimensions but the mini 2 propellers are much stiffer

[2021-06-07 21:20:57] validat0r : where to buy Mavic Pro spare parts in D/EU? need legs ..

[2021-06-08 05:04:14] kbgroning : [Droneshop.nl](http://Droneshop.nl)

[2021-06-10 17:10:32] mingtao : [https://youtu.be/Jxbu80okI_U?list=RDnUwTnJ8yFXY](https://youtu.be/Jxbu80okI_U?list=RDnUwTnJ8yFXY)

[2021-06-10 17:42:57] bobdole : wow anything cool happen lately with rooting drones

[2021-06-10 17:43:03] bobdole : been away a while XD

[2021-06-10 18:32:10] mingtao : one more) <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFBTdToRmw>

[2021-06-10 21:00:45] buundy : Best russian band :+1::+1:

[2021-07-31 10:46:07] sambuko : does anyone have the last firmware for matrice 300 from assistant (path C:\Program Files (x86)\DJI Product\DJI Assistant 2 (Enterprise Series)\DJIEngine\DJIData\firm_cache). Please upload to telegram or to the some cloud.

[2021-07-31 17:52:15] cs2000 : @shtigran88 If you have the internal DJI model number for it i can take a look for you. I have plenty of Matrice stuff on DDD, but not the Matrice 300 as i dont have a record of its model/identifier

[2021-08-01 07:06:37] sambuko : Pm430

[2021-08-01 09:59:24] cs2000 : @shtigran88 Got it mate, i was doing some digging last night and found the reference. In currently packing and uploading everything to DDD, give it 45-60 minutes and it will all be available. !DDD

[2021-08-01 11:51:11] cs2000 : Im also getting the Remote Controller firmware, but these files are huge (1GB+ per RC) and are coming down very slowly from DJI, these likely wont be up today, but the Aircraft firmware is live now anyway

[2021-08-01 11:55:52] oakley75 : Much appreciation for your consistent hard work

[2021-08-01 14:33:13] cs2000 : @reoak Not a problem mate, for some reason its what i do :sweat_smile:, after downloading and packing since about 11AM, 5 hrs later all the RC firmware for the Matrice 300 is now live (last one 02.04.0103 is just uploading still, that will be complete in 8 minutes)

[2021-08-18 17:59:52] quad808 : on a completely random topic...anyone done this? <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kPvUYnf55k>

[2021-08-18 18:00:08] quad808 : thats my project for today, home sick with a cold

[2021-08-18 18:11:03] m4x : no but i am a libretro/retroarch dev

[2021-08-18 18:11:06] m4x : so i work a lot with emus

[2021-08-18 18:11:10] m4x : and have my owns too

[2021-08-18 18:11:18] m4x : including mame

[2021-08-18 18:18:55] quad808 : wow

[2021-08-18 18:19:50] quad808 : never heard of Batocera until yesterday

[2021-08-18 18:20:47] quad808 : will see how it goes....this is going to be fun

[2021-08-20 16:00:53] mail451 : Man, laid off today. Time to find something to take my mind off the negativity.

[2021-08-20 16:01:50] dkovar : Ouch. On a Friday, too.

[2021-08-20 16:10:59] m4x : see the positive, a unlimited weekend

[2021-08-20 16:27:18] tmbinc : Uh, sorry to hear that, @mail451.

[2021-08-20 16:27:29] tmbinc : What field are you in?

[2021-08-20 16:34:18] mail451 : I'm a backend server developer. Whole company collapsed. Unreal to see. Maybe I will use this downtime to learn more about DJI reversing, exploits...

[2021-08-20 16:41:38] bin4ry : sad to hear that!

[2021-08-20 16:41:49] bin4ry : sorry for you man! hope you find a new job quick

[2021-08-20 17:07:13] mefisto : Yeah that sucks. Fortunately not the worst time to find new job in this space.

[2021-08-20 17:43:50] originaldobo007 : I’m so sorry @mail451. How much you wanna bet that you’ll get a better job though? A lot of times we accept things in our jobs just based on inertia. Now you will likely have a choice. You’re in a good field.

[2021-08-20 17:45:23] m4x : What's your country?

[2021-08-20 17:45:52] mail451 : Hopefully next job is better. I had it pretty good at the company. For now, time to enjoy the forced vacations.

[2021-08-20 17:45:53] mail451 : Spain.

[2021-08-20 17:46:09] m4x : Too far from where I am at, so can't offer a interview

[2021-08-20 17:46:41] mail451 : Thank you anyways. I'm looking on Linkedin for applying to drone related companies

[2021-08-20 17:49:29] originaldobo007 : DJI? :laughing:

[2021-08-20 17:50:56] mail451 : Oh man, that'd be wacky :slightly_smiling_face:

[2021-08-20 17:51:17] mail451 : Doubt they're hiring remotely considering all they went through

[2021-08-20 18:58:47] quad808 : sorry to hear that bro...Hoping for the best for you!!

[2021-08-20 19:38:11] heresmydron : not sure in spain but the market for backend devs is crazy here in IRL. a month ago my team hired a QA for 70k. A fucking QA for 70k! We are not looking for devs but im sure that if you ask nicely you can get 80+ easily

[2021-08-20 19:46:49] mail451 : The Spanish dev market is known to be the cheap way to get developers in Europe. A typical SW engineer makes on average ~30k EUR. and That is all what the offers say. No one wants to pay more than average. Only ones that do are foreign companies (and they pay below their own average salary, ha)

[2021-08-20 19:47:55] originaldobo007 : Holy fuck. SW engineers in US earn 6 figures, no?

[2021-08-20 19:53:03] mail451 : Yeah

[2021-08-20 19:53:20] heresmydron : i guess the devs for big companies do. FAANG employees

[2021-08-20 19:53:27] mail451 : Lots of US companies are hiring in Barcelona recently

[2021-08-20 19:53:32] heresmydron : not sure about other "normal" companies

[2021-08-20 19:54:08] heresmydron : BCN is my next destination. id love to work and live there. beautiful city

[2021-08-20 19:54:24] heresmydron : very drone-able as well, gorgeous structures and streets

[2021-08-20 19:54:32] mail451 : I moved here 2 years ago and haven't looked back

[2021-08-20 19:54:49] mail451 : Well for drones unfortunately the beautiful city is tempting but don't mess with the cops

[2021-08-20 19:55:01] mail451 : Unless you want a 4-5 figure fine haha

[2021-08-20 19:55:27] mail451 : They get real picky with drones, and you need some drone Hacks to take off near the beach too (airport NFZ)

[2021-08-20 19:55:47] heresmydron : do you think they are using aeroscopes?

[2021-08-20 19:55:48] originaldobo007 : What a magnificent place Barcelona is!

[2021-08-20 19:55:52] heresmydron : i dont think they have the tech

[2021-08-20 19:56:07] heresmydron : if anyone was arrested they probably spotted them ont he street with teh controller in their hands

[2021-08-20 19:56:07] mail451 : Yes i know for a fact most police stations have aeroscope hardware

[2021-08-20 19:56:08] originaldobo007 : And a much better work life balance there than in US.

[2021-08-20 19:56:50] mail451 : Guy I know works for the municipality and he told me in 2020 there was budget for drone detecting HW suddenly

[2021-08-20 19:57:12] mail451 : They have aeroscopes near the camp Nou, Olympic city

[2021-08-20 19:57:16] heresmydron : wow

[2021-08-20 19:57:38] mail451 : But man there are so many places to fly around Barcelona

[2021-08-20 19:57:48] mail451 : Accessible via train

[2021-08-20 19:57:51] originaldobo007 : Random question - do Aeroscopes only pick up DJI? Or would they also pick up Autel?

[2021-08-20 19:58:39] mail451 : Probably can detect signal but not much else

[2021-08-20 19:58:47] originaldobo007 : :+1:

[2021-08-20 19:59:16] mail451 : Fines for drones are no joke

[2021-08-20 19:59:26] mail451 : And they do enforce them if you get spotted

[2021-08-20 19:59:43] m4x : accidents with drones are no joke either

[2021-08-20 19:59:59] mail451 : Some FPV pilots i know have a map of locations to fly near BCN, but it's mostly abandoned buildings

[2021-08-20 20:00:13] mail451 : But the thing is you go on the train about 1 hour away

[2021-08-20 20:00:18] mail451 : To a beach with no people and no cops

[2021-08-20 20:00:21] mail451 : And just have fun

[2021-08-20 20:00:29] mail451 : Catalonian coast is awesome

[2021-08-20 20:01:35] originaldobo007 : And the Spanish women!!!!

[2021-08-20 20:01:43] originaldobo007 : :yum:

[2021-08-20 20:04:52] originaldobo007 : Much better than the prodigious and common American woman, seen here for reference.

[2021-08-20 20:05:17] heresmydron : #THICC

[2021-08-20 20:05:26] originaldobo007 : :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

[2021-08-20 20:09:01] quad808 : more to love!

[2021-08-20 20:09:19] originaldobo007 : Almost too much cushion for the pushin'

[2021-08-20 20:10:02] mail451 : Hahaha well the Mediterranean diet is something else man

[2021-08-20 20:10:20] originaldobo007 : Much healthier and better than the Kentucky Fried Chicken diet.

[2021-08-20 20:10:42] quad808 : I prefer popeyes diet myself

[2021-08-20 20:11:11] originaldobo007 : Their chicken sandwich is superb. I'll give them that.

[2021-08-20 20:14:51] originaldobo007 : This is the American diet:

[2021-08-20 20:15:02] originaldobo007 :

[2021-08-20 20:15:16] heresmydron : oh my

[2021-08-20 20:15:23] originaldobo007 : It's real.

[2021-08-20 20:15:24] heresmydron : would love one of those right now

[2021-08-20 20:15:34] heresmydron : not the woman, hte donut-burger

[2021-08-20 20:15:42] heresmydron : well who am i kidding ill take both please

[2021-08-20 20:16:27] quad808 : with sprinkles

[2021-08-20 20:19:36] originaldobo007 : Maybe that's the woman's name?

[2021-08-20 20:20:09] heresmydron : Crystal Sprinkles

[2021-08-20 20:20:40] heresmydron : whats the quintessential black woman's name in usa?

[2021-08-20 20:25:23] originaldobo007 : Laquisha

[2021-08-20 20:27:06] heresmydron : Ahh laquisha beuaitiful

[2021-08-20 20:27:14] heresmydron : crystal is more white trash name right?

[2021-08-20 20:27:28] heresmydron : im learning so much about the good ol' u s of a with you stan

[2021-08-20 20:27:50] heresmydron : im getting ready to request my H1B

[2021-08-20 20:31:28] originaldobo007 : Sometimes it's "Cristal"

[2021-08-20 20:31:35] originaldobo007 : Definitely white trash name

[2021-08-20 20:31:39] originaldobo007 : Stripper name

[2021-08-20 20:32:33] originaldobo007 : Other common stripper names are "Cheyenne", "Brandy" "Amber" and "Cherry"

[2021-08-20 20:33:53] heresmydron : they all sound like ice cream flavours on a hip ice cream parlor

[2021-08-20 20:34:07] heresmydron : one scoop of cherry and one of cheyenne please

[2021-08-20 20:35:00] originaldobo007 : "Urban" female names in the US tend to be "Shaniqua" "Laquisha" "Precious" "Diamond" or "Shanice"

[2021-08-20 20:36:12] originaldobo007 : Also La'Tonya La'Shondra La'Tavia, and I've even heard of a "Bonquiqui"

[2021-08-20 20:36:51] heresmydron : La'zyPilot

[2021-08-20 20:37:01] originaldobo007 : BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[2021-08-20 20:37:16] originaldobo007 : BonquiStanLeeLee

[2021-08-20 20:37:45] originaldobo007 : Another one is "Shanaenae"

[2021-08-20 20:38:47] originaldobo007 : @quad808 Will soon be changing his name to "Glock808"

[2021-08-20 20:38:57] originaldobo007 : :laughing:

[2021-08-20 20:39:58] originaldobo007 : Don't mess with him. Here's a pic of him.

[2021-08-20 21:51:04] kilrah : i'm 1h30 north of BCN right nowfor work :slightly_smiling_face:

[2021-08-20 21:54:50] quad808 : hahahahahaha

[2021-08-20 21:55:23] quad808 : how about -a

[2021-08-20 21:55:33] quad808 : dasha....bwahahahahahahaa

[2021-08-20 21:56:45] originaldobo007 : :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing::joy:

[2021-08-20 22:05:05] mail451 : Found any good flying spots?

[2021-08-20 22:05:30] originaldobo007 : Shithead = "Shi-thay-ad"

[2021-08-20 22:20:30] kilrah : Just been in fields around the town

[2021-08-20 22:21:53] m4x : can anyone recommend good lense filters for mini 2?

[2021-08-20 22:24:17] quad808 : lemme see what I shelled out $$ for, hang on

[2021-08-20 22:24:41] m4x : notlikethis

[2021-08-20 22:25:28] quad808 : I bought some cheap brand from Amazon...GLOBACT

[2021-08-20 22:25:36] quad808 : works good

[2021-08-20 22:26:10] quad808 : well....seem well made, good enough for me anyways

[2021-08-20 22:27:21] quad808 : very light weight, so doesn't affect the camera...as far as quality goes...meh....not sure, but hell if I am going to spend a fortune on ND filters

[2021-08-20 22:27:47] m4x :

[2021-08-20 22:27:48] m4x : hm

[2021-08-20 22:28:30] quad808 : i bought the 6 piece set

[2021-08-20 22:28:38] m4x : ye about to

[2021-08-20 22:28:41] m4x : thanks will give it a shot

[2021-08-20 22:28:47] m4x : prime ftw lol

[2021-08-20 22:29:07] quad808 : MCUV, CPL, ND4, ND8, ND16, ND32

[2021-08-20 22:30:12] quad808 : the filter covers the whole front of the camera, so I thought that was best compared to others

[2021-08-20 22:30:20] kilrah : Don't use pl for panos

[2021-08-20 22:30:35] m4x : whats the best for them?

[2021-08-20 22:30:39] kilrah : Some are nd/pl in one

[2021-08-20 22:30:46] quad808 : yah, PL would mess that up for sure

[2021-08-20 22:31:21] kilrah : That shot looks like it's the issue

[2021-08-20 22:31:29] m4x : thats without filter

[2021-08-20 22:31:33] m4x : just stitched

[2021-08-20 22:31:34] kilrah : You don't want filters for stills anyway

[2021-08-20 22:31:37] quad808 : is it best to set auto if doing a pano??

[2021-08-20 22:31:57] m4x : i had best results with fixed mostly

[2021-08-20 22:32:04] m4x : but it was a troublesome angle

[2021-08-20 22:32:07] m4x : and it was late

[2021-08-20 22:32:09] m4x : so sun was low

[2021-08-20 22:32:11] m4x : lots of shadow

[2021-08-20 22:32:15] m4x : in some directions

[2021-08-20 22:32:21] m4x : sun in the face in the other

[2021-08-20 22:32:23] kilrah : Always used auto and came out nice

[2021-08-20 22:32:45] m4x : well in the app, yea

[2021-08-20 22:32:50] kilrah : I usually process myself from dng tho

[2021-08-20 22:32:55] m4x : hmm

[2021-08-20 22:32:57] m4x : what did u use?

[2021-08-20 22:33:09] m4x : this pano is now via metashape

[2021-08-20 22:33:14] m4x : i had issues with ps

[2021-08-20 22:33:20] m4x : not outputting it right

[2021-08-20 22:33:29] kilrah : Lightroom for processing, ice for stitching

[2021-08-20 22:33:39] m4x : ice has too much distortion

[2021-08-20 22:33:42] m4x : even if finetuned

[2021-08-20 22:33:50] m4x : probably because too low altitude

[2021-08-20 22:34:07] kilrah : Well that's for spheres, for simple Panos just lightroom

[2021-08-20 22:34:24] m4x : yea i do spheres here

[2021-08-20 22:34:43] kilrah : Never had distorsion

[2021-08-20 22:34:43] m4x : 1gb tiff lol

[2021-08-20 22:34:47] m4x : not even full res

[2021-08-20 22:35:15] kilrah : You need to complete the picture to 2:1 ratio yourself tho, I do that in ps

[2021-08-20 22:36:27] kilrah : Otherwise the horizon is all curved

[2021-08-20 22:37:35] m4x : oh i didnt pay attention to that in particular

[2021-08-20 22:37:41] m4x : gonna try that next time..

[2021-08-20 22:38:52] kilrah : In PS expand canvas upwards with pixel count half of width, then I content aware fill the missing bit of sky

[2021-08-20 22:39:05] m4x : ye doing that

[2021-08-20 22:39:17] m4x : also metashape output has right dimensions this time

[2021-08-20 22:39:22] m4x : so that might do the trick

[2021-08-20 22:39:30] m4x : but thats probably why they were all shit when i did it manually

[2021-08-20 22:39:33] m4x : ffs

[2021-08-20 22:39:41] kilrah : Lol

[2021-08-20 22:40:12] m4x : i only knew the width

[2021-08-20 22:40:20] m4x : not what aspect

[2021-08-20 22:40:21] m4x : lol

[2021-08-20 22:40:26] m4x : i dont do much pictures

[2021-08-20 22:40:31] m4x : i have more fun writing code to take them

[2021-08-20 22:40:32] m4x : lol

[2021-08-20 22:54:29] m4x : <https://kuula.co/share/NLqx6> now we are talking

[2021-08-20 22:54:37] m4x : but only half res otherwise it wouldnt display

[2021-08-21 01:07:51] m4x : <https://kuula.co/share/NLqSV> hm i think the issue earlier was with ICE PSD export lol

[2021-08-21 07:17:01] kilrah : yeah max size on kuula is too small :smile:

[2021-08-21 07:40:35] kilrah : <https://kuula.co/post/NLv1D>

[2021-08-21 07:41:15] kilrah : this was 200MP, had to resize to the max of 16384 :D

[2021-08-21 08:27:28] heresmydron : how do you guys take the 360 panos? i do them manually but its a bit of a chore to shoot all the pics one by one

[2021-08-21 08:28:13] heresmydron : ma2 can shoot 360 panos automatically but it only saves the stitched pano, you dont get the original pics saved in the sd card

[2021-08-21 08:35:10] kilrah : you should have a setting to save individual photos

[2021-08-21 08:35:20] kilrah : been there on all models since forever

[2021-08-21 08:35:42] kilrah : this above was taken with MA1

[2021-08-21 10:16:11] heresmydron : <https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/p8gnno/getting_gplv2_compliance_from_a_chinese_company/>

[2021-08-21 10:16:31] heresmydron : anyone volunteers to go to the dji offices in shenzhen?

[2021-08-21 10:20:12] mail451 : Oh man

[2021-08-21 10:20:17] mail451 : Let's just tell her

[2021-08-23 18:16:04] m4x : So I saw a heli coming, landed. It flew over me, came back, circled 3 times and gtfo'd. Not sure if salty or just wanted to say hello / check that i actually landed lol

[2021-08-23 18:16:29] m4x : Or checked back with ATC that i was indeed within legal limits :thinking_face:

[2021-08-23 18:25:39] m4x : @quad808 thanks for the recommendation on the filters again

[2021-08-23 18:25:46] m4x : seems to help a ton

[2021-08-23 19:27:53] tmbinc : you think they saw you? or via aeroscope?

[2021-08-23 19:28:13] tmbinc : i imagine a drone must be very hard to spot

[2021-08-23 19:28:41] tmbinc : (unless it's a T30)

[2021-08-23 19:39:16] m4x : i think they saw me

[2021-08-23 19:39:31] m4x : i think i had uuid on

[2021-08-23 19:39:34] m4x : would need to check

[2021-08-23 19:39:47] m4x : now that would be interesting

[2021-08-23 19:40:04] m4x : they were flying lower allowed limit themselves

[2021-08-23 19:55:24] originaldobo007 : That’s why I like flying much higher than the Helis do.

[2021-08-23 19:58:07] originaldobo007 : How much does DJI charge for an aeroscope?

[2021-08-23 20:01:46] m4x : isnt that stuff only a Bt-LE token for the uuid / desc?

[2021-08-23 20:02:11] m4x : iirc you could see it with a smartphone

[2021-08-23 20:27:04] m4x : <https://kuula.co/share/NLb8x>

[2021-08-23 20:27:29] m4x : (from uncorrected)

[2021-08-26 16:55:26] fredmicrowave : Thought it was pretty interesting <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7AkQtuDug4>

[2021-08-27 21:11:51] m4x : >mfw my email is in cc to 2 different police mails

[2021-08-27 21:12:25] m4x : :clap:

[2021-08-27 21:12:49] m4x : that was some easy paperwork to get the perms

[2021-08-27 21:13:03] m4x : under the new eu rules

[2021-08-27 21:14:09] m4x : so need to highly recommend just doing it in germany

[2021-08-27 21:14:28] m4x : especially i am able to get the A2 rights with my Mini 2 and only A1/A3 test

[2021-08-27 21:14:48] mail451 : Need to see how feasible it is to get some flight approval here in BCN. (MA2)

[2021-08-27 21:14:51] m4x : so dont need the remote pilot cert

[2021-08-27 21:15:17] m4x : which was the stopper for me

[2021-08-27 21:15:35] m4x : i dont see why i should pay 400 bucks for a online quiz

[2021-08-27 21:15:40] m4x : to have someone watch me on webcam

[2021-08-27 21:15:44] m4x : 2 cams actually

[2021-08-27 21:15:46] m4x : like wtf

[2021-08-27 21:16:18] m4x : so basically i got a guy to talk to at the airport as well

[2021-08-27 21:16:23] m4x : which is very reassuring

[2021-08-27 21:16:52] m4x : and under 30m (or biggest building in 50m radius) in the 1.5km noflyzone airport limit is allowed

[2021-08-27 21:17:10] m4x : beyond that just need to let them know 3 days prior

[2021-08-27 21:17:27] m4x : just until 2 months ago apparently they started the new process

[2021-08-27 21:17:32] m4x : until then the old rules still applied

[2021-08-27 21:17:53] m4x : which was - at least here - under 50m in control zones as long u are 1.5km away from all

[2021-08-27 21:17:55] m4x : for no fees

[2021-08-27 21:18:10] m4x : Perm is 2 years valid @ 200 bucks

[2021-08-27 21:18:23] m4x : its cheap if u consider atc needs to work around you^^

[2021-08-27 21:18:35] m4x : at least if u wanna go higher legally

[2021-08-27 21:27:46] quad808 : Well done sir!

[2021-08-27 21:33:04] m4x : > which was - at least here - under 50m in control zones as long u are 1.5km away from all the free option is still a thing here btw, but then u cant enter the "geographical uas" zone that is the 5km extended radius

[2021-08-27 21:33:15] m4x : my flight place is like 10m in..

[2021-08-31 01:36:59] sambuko : does anyone have a bqevsw unseal key for bq30z55 Ronin m battery? please share. Thanks

[2021-08-31 18:54:59] olli_dxd : It’s already available in the unlock tool mefisto has made.

[2021-08-31 22:52:29] fredmicrowave : I don´t know if they used the default key in the Ronin too, but that´s not likely

[2021-09-01 19:03:11] sambuko : You're right. There isn't default keys

[2021-09-09 20:12:20] flylusive_pat : @fredmicrowave No default keys for RONIN )))

[2021-09-09 22:09:59] fredmicrowave : Well, it makes sense unfortunately. My answer was directed to Olli that mentioned Mefisto´s tool, but even with that tool you will need the key...

[2021-09-11 11:25:54] sambuko : After replacement gimbal, is there any other way to remove errors other than the DJI application(dealers app with vpn)?

[2021-09-11 11:33:32] buundy : Does anyone here is super master in gopro firmware magic? I built several naked gopros for fpv flying and I have some questions and it would be good if i can exchange thoughts with someone. Maybe @mail451 ?

[2021-09-11 11:49:40] mail451 : Been a while since I've done any firmware reversing, what do you need to have modified?

[2021-09-11 13:19:47] buundy : I have one naked gopro hero 6 which is particluarly good for reelsteady stabilization

[2021-09-11 13:20:01] buundy : It has high res gyro data embedded

[2021-09-11 13:20:13] buundy : In the clips it records

[2021-09-11 13:21:26] buundy : I alao made a naked gopro mod for it, you can see here: [https://www.youmagine.com/designs/beta95x-gopro-cinewhoop-frame-and-mount](https://www.youmagine.com/designs/beta95x-gopro-cinewhoop-frame-and-mount)

[2021-09-11 13:22:10] buundy : I also have some gopro 7 naked gopros but they are not too good for post stabilization

[2021-09-11 13:22:45] buundy : The hw is almost the same, i think only the ram differs between them

[2021-09-11 13:23:01] buundy : Same gps, same camera module, every aspect is the same

[2021-09-11 13:23:37] buundy : I was wondering if it is possible to somehow flash the hero 6 fw on hero 7 hw

[2021-09-11 13:24:23] buundy : Another question in my mind is if there is any way to put the camera into pairing mode without the screen

[2021-09-11 13:25:10] buundy : I have the h6 paired with my phone but its screen doesnt work (multiple tested)

[2021-09-11 13:25:55] mail451 : As far as H7B to 6: Haven't looked into it, but see [https://gethypoxic.com/blogs/technical/gopro-hero7-teardown](https://gethypoxic.com/blogs/technical/gopro-hero7-teardown) As for pairing: check out GoPro Labs, for Hero7 you can kick it into pairing mode with a QR Code.

[2021-09-11 13:26:09] mail451 : (don't know how to kick the H6 into pairing mode without a screen)

[2021-09-11 13:26:30] buundy : I have the gpauto file and it turns on wifi so I can control it, but as gopro removed the protune from their app I would like to pair it with an android with an older appo

[2021-09-11 13:26:40] mail451 : Note that with GoPro Labs you can change pretty much all camera aspects.

[2021-09-11 13:27:04] mail451 : gpauto's WF/WL commands will only enable wifi if it has already been paired and configured

[2021-09-11 13:27:07] buundy : Yes that is an another side of the story

[2021-09-11 13:27:30] buundy : Also i experimented with gopro labs a lot

[2021-09-11 13:27:35] buundy : On h7

[2021-09-11 13:27:52] buundy : But unfortunately it doesnt support h6...

[2021-09-11 13:28:11] buundy : But it even supports session 5 which is older

[2021-09-11 13:28:55] mail451 : To change the PT settings on the Hero 6, assuming you have saved the wifi password somewhere you can use the WiFi APIs.

[2021-09-11 13:29:26] buundy : I could kick my h6 into pairing finally by attaching a screen to it and putting a working gopro next to it and putting my finger on the same spots on the screen

[2021-09-11 13:29:55] buundy : Turned out the touch worked but no image

[2021-09-11 13:30:12] mail451 : If the BLE pairing is already done on the phone and GoPro you could also download a third party GoPro control app. MultiPro is my app of choice.

[2021-09-11 13:30:36] buundy : I have not seen it before

[2021-09-11 13:30:37] mail451 : But I tend to use my own wiki or python API wrapper for changing settings on older cameras.

[2021-09-11 13:31:08] buundy : What are the wifi apis? Where can I read about them?

[2021-09-11 13:31:43] buundy : Multipro is an android app?

[2021-09-11 13:31:58] mail451 : [https://github.com/KonradIT/goprowifihack](https://github.com/KonradIT/goprowifihack)

[2021-09-11 13:32:04] mail451 : Yep multi pro is Android app.

[2021-09-11 13:32:10] mail451 : And uses BLE for controlling

[2021-09-11 13:35:54] buundy : Wow it is pretty extensive

[2021-09-11 13:36:11] mail451 : Yep, you can change all settings over WiFi for Hero7/6

[2021-09-11 13:36:15] mail451 : If you know the pass

[2021-09-11 13:36:29] buundy : So it i connect to the gopro via wifi I can kick it into pairing mode with a http command?

[2021-09-11 13:36:48] mail451 : And over BLE, given it's paired to a trusted devices as well: [http://github.com/KonradIT/Gopro-ble-py](http://github.com/KonradIT/Gopro-ble-py)

[2021-09-11 13:36:54] mail451 : Not for pairing a new device no

[2021-09-11 13:37:03] mail451 : But for changing protune settings

[2021-09-11 13:37:06] mail451 : That works

[2021-09-11 13:37:54] buundy : I see

[2021-09-11 13:38:43] buundy : So hypothetically if I have a gopro with broken screen output circuits and wireless turned off then there is no way to make it into pairing mode

[2021-09-11 13:40:14] mail451 : You could use GoPro Labs to scan a qr code

[2021-09-11 13:40:20] mail451 : And get it to pairing mode that way

[2021-09-11 13:41:00] buundy : Not on h6 :D

[2021-09-11 13:41:21] buundy : It would be awesome if they release the labs on h6

[2021-09-11 13:42:10] buundy : I will test the h7 more with fpv flights but so far the stabilization performace is not acceptable with reelsteady

[2021-09-11 13:43:08] mail451 : Yeah no idea to get H6 to pairing mode without screen

[2021-09-11 13:43:20] mail451 : I'd just use the WiFi commands to change protune settings

[2021-09-11 13:47:12] buundy : Thanks for the infos

[2021-09-11 13:47:41] buundy : It would be nice if Somehow with a txt file you could put it into pairing mode...

[2021-09-11 13:55:01] buundy : With the wifi api is there a live view?

[2021-09-11 13:55:37] buundy : It would be nice if I can repicate the old gopro app via a web app

[2021-09-11 13:55:47] buundy : Live view included

[2021-09-11 13:56:58] mail451 : Yep. udp://:8554

[2021-09-11 14:45:05] buundy : Do you think I can fool the H7 to a H6 firmware upgrade if I swap the CAMFWV.bin in the update folder from a H7?

[2021-09-11 14:45:56] buundy :

[2021-09-11 14:46:11] buundy : left one is from the H7 update folder, right is from the H6

[2021-09-11 14:55:09] mail451 : No, there are some checks on the DATA.bin file for checking which HW it runs on.

[2021-09-11 14:55:48] mail451 : And this doesn't guarantee booting

[2021-09-11 14:58:13] buundy : hmm

[2021-09-11 14:58:35] buundy : then not easy task to downgrade a h7 to a h6

[2021-09-11 15:00:03] mail451 : No

[2021-09-11 15:00:25] mail451 : H5 to H2018 was doable because of the exactly same HW except some resistors

[2021-09-11 15:23:18] buundy : Thanks! Iphone cannot view it but probably another app understands that. Maybe vlc

[2021-09-11 15:23:40] mail451 : FFplay

[2021-09-11 15:23:58] buundy : If I try and fail is there a chance to brick my h7?

[2021-09-11 15:24:24] buundy : And if I brick it and retry with correct fw, maybe it is recoverable?

[2021-09-11 15:28:04] mail451 : Never tried such a hack (replacing an entire FW), you could definitely brick your camera if the bootloader is corrupted.

[2021-09-11 15:33:11] buundy : I have 2 broken h7 so maybe I will try

[2021-09-11 15:33:14] buundy : Does the fw updates the bootloader also? Which loads the fw update? Is it the bootloader?

[2021-09-14 21:22:21] m4x : we made it number 1 in trending :clap:

[2021-09-14 21:23:20] mail451 : Hero 10 coming :eyes::eyes::eyes:

[2021-09-14 21:24:04] m4x : What's that?

[2021-09-14 21:49:02] mail451 : [https://gopro.com/en/us/info/hero10-black-teaser](https://gopro.com/en/us/info/hero10-black-teaser)

[2021-09-15 00:05:49] quad808 : RetroArch is the bomb diggety of old school rom engines

[2021-09-16 03:30:41] iauster : It is possible. At least i managed to install GP7 fw into GP6. <https://www.reddit.com/r/goprohack/comments/hqsf85/but_it_seems_to_be_bricked_now/> However, it became almost unusable and I wasn’t able to install original FW back. Hopefully GoPro support replaced the camera for free.

[2021-09-16 03:34:48] iauster :

[2021-09-16 07:17:45] buundy : Nice job! But do you think it is possible to flash a H6 fw to a H7? If so, then how? I replacen the data.bin file in a h7 update folder feom a h6, it started but didnt succeed.

[2021-09-16 07:18:12] buundy : I want to use h6 fw because it works better with reelsteady

[2021-09-17 08:14:46] pingspike : My first ever computer was a rubber keyed Spectrum 48K RIP Sir Clive Sinclair :cry: <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58587521>

[2021-10-12 13:14:19] m4x : This is so stupid, apparently the dji sdk only gives the success on the send of the command. Need to actually validate it was taken via a async system state callback on camera with super cursed boolean logic

[2021-10-12 13:14:29] m4x : because not everything instantly triggers a flush

[2021-10-12 13:14:39] m4x : and do it too fast and dji services crash

[2021-10-12 13:15:18] m4x : <https://github.com/m4xw/rosettadrone_mini2/commit/f3371d1c9538064360e8a54e99c6d475ea05ea04>

[2021-10-12 13:15:21] m4x : motherfluffer

[2021-10-12 13:52:19] heresmydron : HTTP 200 `success: failed, error: "¯\_(ツ)_/¯"}`

[2021-10-12 21:45:31] m4x : 100 wp's in a session worked nicely now with my fixes at low handoff size, nice

[2021-10-12 21:45:47] m4x : seems the reconstruction also comes out well for being at 1/20th shutter and 200 iso..

[2021-10-12 21:45:49] m4x : was nearly dark

[2021-10-12 21:46:20] m4x :

[2021-10-12 21:47:00] m4x : also only from top-down images

[2021-10-12 21:48:33] m4x : as can be seen here..

[2021-10-14 17:01:16] m4x : turns out <https://www.djiflightplanner.com/> isnt actually malware :see_no_evil:

[2021-10-14 17:01:19] m4x : horrible page tho

[2021-10-14 17:01:26] m4x : flight planner is nice with offline maps

[2021-10-14 17:01:33] m4x : and more than 99 actions & split

[2021-10-14 17:01:41] m4x : and camera overlap and automatic best orientation

[2021-10-14 17:01:48] m4x : but misses so much basic stuff

[2021-10-14 17:01:52] m4x : cant do actions n shit

[2021-10-14 17:01:56] m4x : :put_litter_in_its_place:

[2021-10-14 17:02:06] m4x : and no circles

[2021-10-14 17:02:13] m4x : only found that with ugcs so far

[2021-10-14 17:02:18] m4x : and thats in freaking unity

[2021-10-14 17:02:41] m4x : at this point i should just add the proper output and extra routines to qgc or smth..

[2021-10-14 17:03:26] m4x : > automatic best orientation literally just bruteforces every degree and shows the choices for min lenght, min rows, min pics taken

[2021-10-14 17:03:31] m4x : lol

[2021-10-14 17:04:23] m4x : i cant believe their page is so horrible

[2021-10-14 17:04:28] m4x : and support takes 12h to respond..

[2021-10-14 17:04:46] m4x : good ol ollydbg to the rescue

[2021-10-14 17:05:02] m4x : > asking for a freaking hwid after getting sent the dl link from support

[2021-10-14 17:05:08] m4x : in 2021

[2021-10-14 17:05:47] m4x : and all it takes is a breakpoint, 2x step to ret and a jumpout..

[2021-10-14 19:30:54] m4x : Nice my waypoint transition layer is working

[2021-10-14 19:30:59] m4x : can push them directly from gc now

[2021-10-14 19:31:04] m4x : and no 99 wp limit

[2021-10-20 17:35:23] m4x : So took me months but i finally got to the root of the keyframe issue on my app. It ended up being a vendor bug and on top of that a issue with the surface being destroyed and no new keyframe sent when the codec reinitialized, which is rooted in bs dji examples and Buggy logic

[2021-10-20 17:35:28] m4x : what should i have expected

[2021-10-20 17:35:49] m4x : now i can even have video feed when recording at 4k 30 on my s21 exynos

[2021-10-20 17:35:56] m4x : even dji fly app fucks that up

[2021-10-20 17:36:01] m4x : fucking hell

[2021-10-20 17:36:46] m4x : So with that soon fixed and the waypoint translation & compat support for litchi csv, just need to fix the other drones and this should be the ultimate solution :smirk:

[2021-10-20 17:37:07] m4x : can stream to QGC and have feed at the same time as well

[2021-10-20 17:37:13] m4x : just some more reliability things

[2021-10-20 17:37:41] m4x : ~~Time to put litchi out of business~~

[2021-10-20 17:45:53] mefisto : The Litchi team is interesting - on their position they need to keep relations with DJI, so they need to adhere to all the licenses, agreements, and probably NDAs. But they clearly have the capacity and the mindset to push further. Anyway, having an app which goes beyond the SDK would definitely be even more interesting.

[2021-10-20 17:46:23] m4x : Alone the mavlink translation is :eggplant:

[2021-10-20 17:46:34] m4x : can literally use most of the existing foss tools

[2021-10-20 17:47:21] m4x : Also note i have nothing against them, but at this point it would be hard to argue for buying it

[2021-10-20 17:47:32] m4x : at least once my stuff is wrapped up

[2021-10-20 17:49:50] m4x : now just someone needs to do a mission editor that doesnt suck ass

[2021-10-20 17:49:59] m4x : i am literally not happy with any of the existing

[2021-10-20 17:51:42] m4x : at this point i am like "do i really need to do EVERYTHING myself"

[2021-10-20 17:53:13] mefisto : I only do agro maps using missions, so Dji Pilot PE works good enough for me. (well, except it encrypts everything with device-specific key, so you can't even backup your missions or copy to new device)

[2021-10-20 17:54:16] m4x : I just want a basic editor that lets me define custom actions for WP's, set a POI flag, basic patterns, basic fake circle with poi and intermediate points and lets bruteforce the survey orientation

[2021-10-20 17:54:22] m4x : tbh thats all simple shit

[2021-10-20 17:54:41] m4x : between 3-4 mission editors, they each lack some of those

[2021-10-20 17:54:45] m4x : and none have custom actions

[2021-10-20 17:54:52] m4x : just lemme define a index for a string or smth

[2021-10-20 17:54:54] m4x : and place it there

[2021-10-20 17:54:57] m4x : thats all i ask for..

[2021-10-20 17:55:44] m4x : If theres actually interest i could consider doing it as a work project if ppl would be up throwing 5 bucks a month or smth

[2021-10-20 17:55:58] m4x : and do it as a online service

[2021-10-20 17:56:11] m4x : this is ridiculous

[2021-10-20 17:57:14] m4x : Maybe I am just thinking too much developer orientated or smth

[2021-10-20 17:57:28] m4x : but dunno, thats all like basic shit to me

[2021-10-20 20:44:16] fredmicrowave : What would be a great feature and was surpised not to see on any app (that I know of) is a "flight replay" feature : Hit "flight record" make you flight including camera movements , then hit "replay" , and the drones follows exactly the same path... Would be really cool for recording precise video takes when you cannot control the drone, for any reason...

[2021-10-20 21:11:44] m4x : heh

[2021-10-20 21:12:09] m4x : i was thinking the reverse, record the movements in sim with gps and then run it based on velocities

[2021-10-20 21:12:27] m4x : but yea basically simliar

[2021-10-20 22:27:44] fredmicrowave : But on sim you cannot see terrain, light, for footage objectives, all stuff that make you decide a certain type of flight and path Also on sim you may en up hitting something, if you are close to ground or obstacles... To be able to chose replay velocity could be really cool though, as the operator could fly a difficult or complicated path slowly, then ask for a steady (and possibly faster) speed replay...

[2021-10-22 00:58:14] m4x : nailed the branding

[2021-10-22 18:06:21] m4x : guess that time has come again

[2021-10-22 18:07:25] m4x : thats at ~1cm/px res to gnd

[2021-10-22 19:59:04] mefisto : I that Red Oak? Why is red oak yellow?

[2021-10-22 23:39:22] fredmicrowave : Blow leaves time...

[2021-10-23 07:15:46] pingspike : what's in the shipping containers? :thinking_face:

[2021-10-23 22:00:37] lolo780 : Crypto miners?

[2021-10-24 06:51:31] pingspike : :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

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[2021-10-28 20:18:24] chipmangini : I gotta get me one of these... <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTR_wme_2ow>

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[2021-10-31 21:15:17] fredmicrowave : Look innovative and interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQSRm0w8ZOw

[2021-11-01 11:15:43] andris8888 : Interesting!

[2021-11-01 12:53:26] abdo054 : [https://dronedj.com/2021/11/01/dji-mavic-3-review-video-youtube-leak/](https://dronedj.com/2021/11/01/dji-mavic-3-review-video-youtube-leak/)

[2021-11-01 15:54:37] pixel : pixel joined the channel.

[2021-11-02 09:00:23] cs2000 : dji-rev-bot added to the channel by cs2000.

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[2021-11-03 23:53:52] quad808 : anyone need 14TB HDD's? bestbuy has them for $200 in the US. Shuck them for the deals...https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-easystore-14tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-black/6425303.p?skuId=6425303#tabbed-customerreviews

[2021-11-03 23:56:12] quad808 : white label, 7200RPM WDC WD140EDGZ-11B1PA0 At least 2 of mine are. Nice price for helium 7200RPM....

[2021-11-04 07:24:54] cs2000 : What, really annoying, the exact same thing is on sale here, was £310 now £270, which is like $368! That $200 is a ridiculously cheap pice for 14tb of drive. Can’t find much about the drive itself though but I suspect at that capacity it will be a SMR drive

[2021-11-04 07:27:27] andris8888 : What is smr?

[2021-11-04 07:29:01] cs2000 : Shingled magnetic recording. Essentially tracks of data are laid over the top of each other and written at different magnetic intensities. It’s fantastic for the most data density, but to write a single sector you have to read, erase and rewrite a whole chunk as the tracks are overlaid which slows down write times considerably

[2021-11-04 07:29:01] cs2000 : Shingled magnetic recording. Essentially tracks of data are laid over the top of each other and written at different magnetic intensities. It’s fantastic for the most data density, but to write a single sector you have to read, erase and rewrite a whole chunk rather than just the sectors that you wanted to edit as the tracks are overlaid which slows down write times considerably

[2021-11-04 07:31:41] cs2000 : Ok. I missed the fact that @quad808 gave the actual drive model, WD140EDGZ-11B1PA0 are CMR drives (conventional magnetic recording) which is just a normal drive, so yeah, those are a great deal for bulk storage!!

[2021-11-04 07:31:41] cs2000 : Ok. I missed the fact that @quad808 have the actual drive model, WD140EDGZ-11B1PA0 are CMR drives (conventional magnetic recording) which is just a normal drive, so yeah, those are a great deal for bulk storage!!

[2021-11-04 17:01:57] quad808 : and I believe no 3v turn off, have to tape problem

[2021-11-04 17:02:35] quad808 : haven't shucked them yet

[2021-11-12 03:24:16] martinbogo : Sexy. One of many in the market now, ranging from $60k to $1M

[2021-11-19 05:39:47] meta : Anyone know of any particularl Black Friday deals, drones or tooling?

[2021-11-19 16:01:04] fredmicrowave : Yeah, me too , looking for two M3 for the price of one :laughing:

[2021-11-21 05:05:02] meta : https://www.amazon.com.au/DJI-FPV-Combo-First-Person-Transmission/dp/B08YJPQ1T9/ DJI FPV $300 off

[2021-11-21 05:05:34] meta : InfoSec focused but thinking of one focused on drones https://github.com/0x90n/InfoSec-Black-Friday/

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[2021-11-24 12:36:45] doctor : Pretty cool concept.... https://cleorobotics.com/

[2021-11-26 11:02:56] czokie : Yeah - but check the price tag.

[2021-11-26 22:07:18] fredmicrowave : Noise is unbearable importunately .

[2021-11-26 23:09:02] doctor : Nice tool to have in the toolbelt need be.....

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[2021-12-14 22:08:44] linuslederle : where can i find bspatch.exe?

[2021-12-14 23:32:14] dnacho : Hey guys, sorry to bother. But WeChat has this requirement now. Could someone please help me lut

[2021-12-14 23:32:31] dnacho :

[2021-12-15 03:42:48] dnacho : Or verify my number the real one is +502 30342989

[2021-12-15 05:43:27] matthijst : Tried. But get on both:

[2021-12-15 05:43:39] matthijst : Think someone from the same country needs to verify.

[2021-12-15 05:44:51] matthijst : At least thats what it looks like: https://www.reddit.com/r/Wechat/

[2022-01-01 02:29:17] whyyoulittle333 : anyone know where this could have been taken? found it in a spark's /system/bin. i assume this picture was found before but im curious

[2022-01-01 15:19:28] doctor : @whyyoulittle333 https://www.kungligaslotten.se/vara-besoksmal/ulriksdals-slott.html

[2022-01-02 07:36:53] rameezahmed1998 : Hello everyone one need help to downgrade fw 0600 to 0500 wm160

[2022-01-02 07:37:24] rameezahmed1998 : Getting error

[2022-01-02 11:17:17] coldflake : @rameezahmed1998 Write NLD support

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[2022-03-16 14:36:09] tmbinc : Hahaha, DJI now giving you a "free protective case" for the DJI Action 2. "the Magnetic Protective Case also helps reduce surface temperature to optimize video recording by activating a heat control solution that increases recording length under normal conditions." Seems they got in trouble with high surface temperature not just within the EU (where firmware limits recording length) but also in other markets. Deserves them right.

[2022-03-16 15:58:50] bin4ry : @tmbinc maybe we should publish the hack to unlock the high temps on all firmwares

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[2022-09-08 05:56:00] windoze : Is there a hack to unlock the self landing due to drone being a little over weight capacity and going up fast?

[2022-09-08 19:31:45] quad808 : Yes, its called a "pilot hack" whereas you slow down and hover every once in a while. :laughing:

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[2022-10-21 06:48:55] venom-code : i am facing a hardware issue, Mavic Pro 1 (original), i have 2 brand new batteries that were in storage charge but couple of days ago i took them out to charge but no led lights on the battery during charging or if i click the power button, is there a solution to this issue?

[2022-10-21 11:14:38] venom-code : tried the usual waking from hibernation methods of pressing power button once and waiting 5 plus minutes and putting it back on charge directly to the charger without the hub been 3 hours still no action

[2022-10-21 14:13:30] cs2000 : they've likely dropped below a voltage the charge control circuitry deemed safe and they have been shut off. There was *someone* around here who had/provided a tool to unlock them again, but i cannot remember who that was.

[2022-10-21 14:21:09] venom-code : thanks for the reply man, i hope he/she sees the post and provides the tool link

[2022-10-21 14:27:57] venom-code : i think i should've asked in the #general channel, my bad

[2022-10-21 14:35:25] cs2000 : Feel free to repost over there :)

[2022-10-21 14:40:35] venom-code : :) thanks

[2022-10-25 18:08:59] andris8888 : Noob question: how can I invite someone for these chatgroups? :D

[2022-10-25 20:55:05] venom-code : chatgroups haha funny

[2022-10-25 20:59:55] venom-code : its a community where people with genuine interest in reverse engineering DJI and other closed source drones gather here and share information and participate in breaking limits imposed by such companies mentioned, off course many like myself with very little knowledge came here in early days and learnt slowly a little bit of this and that to enjoy a free of limits UAV, i am sure if someone is genuinely interested in finding their way here they will reach it without much trouble

[2022-10-27 20:58:19] cs2000 : @andris8888 its not invite-only, if someone visits the dji-rev.com address, they can just register :)

[2022-10-27 21:33:44] andris8888 : Yes I figured out later, thank you! I just invited a fellow enthusiast who scratches down boards layer by layer and maps them with a software and recreates the schematics of dji drone logic boards

[2022-10-27 21:34:24] andris8888 : And he also measures every component after desoldering it and places them on the schematic too

[2022-10-27 22:16:28] tmbinc : Nice! Which drone did he do this on?

[2022-10-27 22:16:41] tmbinc : I reverse-engineered a few selected testpoints etc. on Mini2 and .. woa it's so much work.

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[2022-11-30 16:48:38] bendernet : Spark: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1y_FL5syZzaS331khba0CVNJe__ViDOiZ?sort=13&direction=a 6 layer through-via PCB + 2-2 laser drilled HDI layer on both side.

[2022-11-30 17:04:48] tmbinc : Very cool!

[2022-11-30 17:11:48] m4x : Thats still pretty tame :D

[2022-11-30 17:12:01] m4x : they did a good job tho

[2022-11-30 17:12:12] m4x : looks like a pretty clean delayer

[2022-12-05 18:18:41] bendernet : https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lzIb-_muXQ4ktGMwfmQBzpEn3ffuxOqw?usp=sharing

[2022-12-05 18:18:46] bendernet : Mini1

[2022-12-05 20:05:19] tmbinc : Nice!!

[2022-12-05 20:05:29] tmbinc : Did you start with schematics recovery already?

[2022-12-05 20:07:36] tmbinc : This is extremely cool because I spent a lot of time mapping out the debug port and other stuff

[2022-12-05 20:17:28] tmbinc : Ok, this is SO INCREDIBLY USEFUL! Thank you so much. Let me know if I can help ($$$ or otherwise) to do this for a Mini 2.

[2022-12-06 10:25:29] m4x : clap indeed

[2022-12-06 10:27:24] m4x : https://github.com/JusticeRage/Gepetto

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[2022-12-14 17:22:29] bendernet : Mavic air 2 CPU module: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xWINaZ6P1kWJi14ynh3OIHWIrrruKNGY

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[2022-12-29 13:16:59] tmbinc : Not sure if this was random knowledge, but here's the DJI Fly log decryption: ``` from Crypto.Cipher import AES from hashlib import pbkdf2_hmac import base64 import sys IV_PARAMETER = bytes.fromhex("9d6c5cab5b0281255a222d1c861ddfdf") key = pbkdf2_hmac( hash_name = 'sha1', password = b"DJILog@SimpleEncryption", salt = bytes.fromhex("c8570ac98cc615aa6a6b97b3f20f1b41"), iterations = 1000, dklen = 16 ) for fn in sys.argv[1:]: print("decrypting", fn) data = open(fn, "rb").read().split(b"\n") res = [] for d in data: if not d: continue aes = AES.new(key, AES.MODE_CBC, IV_PARAMETER) try: e = base64.decodebytes(d) except: print("corrupted base64:", d) continue if len(e) % 16: print("corrupted (length not 16-byte aligned):", d) continue s = aes.decrypt(e) if len(s) == 0 or s[-1] > 0x10 or s[-s[-1]:] != s[-1:] * s[-1]: print("padding wrong") continue res.append(s[:-s[-1]] + b"\n") open(fn + ".txt", "wb").write(b"".join(res)) ``` (Tested only with an rm330 log)

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[2023-02-28 21:58:53] tmbinc : Has someone, assuming a rooted drone, looked into inserting something into the video stream? E.g. by writing/modifying a camera plugin?

[2023-02-28 21:59:36] tmbinc : I want to add a Flir Lepton sensor (just downwards) and ideally insert that into the camera stream so I don't need a custom app on the receive side

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[2023-04-25 13:31:07] eddy : Nice @tmbinc It looks like the keys are the same as the dji go 4 apk. https://www.synacktiv.com/publications/dji-android-go-4-application-security-analysis.html

[2023-04-25 13:31:07] eddy : Nice @tmbinc It looks like the keys are the same as the dji go apk. https://www.synacktiv.com/publications/dji-android-go-4-application-security-analysis.html

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[2023-05-01 04:33:23] oakley75 : Hell I just realized that the channel order here can be dragged around. Guess I just assumed it was static and alphabetical. Cool beans.

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[2023-05-02 11:29:59] cs2000 : Even i never actually knew this... :joy:

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[2024-02-10 03:23:31] accountfrompl : Hello. Anybody have working Sincoder's contact?

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[2024-02-24 11:43:58] efwefaf : Does anyone need a DJI T50 that can fly globally

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